Making a net bag for a Roman Legionary 

Thanks so for your comment. I was thinking I have a netting shuttle somewhere in my work storage mess. Then I saw your comment. I know right where my couple dozen tatting shuttles are! I should have thought of that myself. And now I think my balls of size 10 crochet cotton that arre too thick for tatting would work well for making a few shopping bags. Last year my state past a law that we have to pay for plastic bags at the grocery. They want us to bring our own bags. I have been fighting cancer for over a year. I am not strong enough to sit at the sewing machine to make fabric ones. I didn't like the patterns for crochet bags I found. And until now I didn't know how to make net bags. Problem of finding my grandma's net shuttle sovled.

@@Anne5440_ Hope you are feeling well.

@@cosmiccoyotedog-doreenb9605 thanks I am slowly getting stronger, treatments are working.

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​@@Anne5440_ that's so great 👍

It's amazing where these trains of thought take us!

Four years later I found her via a video about medieval Scandinavian clothing. Someone mentioned her in the comments for a good explanation to build a loop. I'm also a new subscriber 😊

That sounds a perfect use for this

Thank you very much! I'm having a lot of fun sharing my interests with everyone.

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Gods damn it - you're all smarter than me. I can't figure this damnable thing out. I have string around every finger and toe and can't move now. :( And I'm only 3 minutes into the video!

@@dr.lexwinter8604 Don't feel badly! The tutorial is easy to follow, but that does not make it easy to actually do. I'd been working on and off with knitting and crochet for years before I tried this. You are not less smart - trust me! You've just specialized in other things until now, maybe. :)

Yes, I misspoke there, the downside of not scripting videos!

Hello Roy...if I may add an additional small point as well...(validation I teach rigging, weaving, and indigenous life skills)...There are many vernacular "local" names for things, so without seeing a picture or demonstration of your "gooseneck knot"...I can't speak to its validity. I can say that a "gooseneck" in several translations is a simple overhand knot typically tied at the top of a sack, and more commonly today a plastic bag... What Sally tied in her beginning was...in the common parlance of English...is best known as a..."Lark's Head"..."Cow Hitch"...and if double (or more) twisted a "cat's paw." A "goose knot"...if that is what you meant...is a "splice" or "knot"...on the working ends of two cords to bring them together...or...to splice twine to make a longer section yet is not a secure knot at all... What I believe Sally was going for (if this is an attempt at a traditional Roman and/or European vintage "netting knot"...would be called an..." Ossel hitch"...This knot is used to attach a rope or line to another main line very often found in historical Scottish gill nets, as one example, to tie small line to a larger rope that supported the net. The word "Ossel" is from old Gaelic meaning..." gill net"...though there is debate about Flemish origins as well...The Ossel Hitch is related to other fishing origins like the "snood"..." snell"...and gangion." I could go on as this is a lifelong passion in some of the work I do professionally...

Thank you I was so confused! And here in Canada you would also call that knot a lark's head knot (or in french noeud d'alouette) ;)

@@audeforcione-lambert4293 Most welcome and for sharing the knot's term in french...I love learning such things...It is one of the many pleasures of a full life...having the wonders of all we can learn from one another...As I know it, from the European perspective, "Lark's Head" is one of the oldest terms for this knot in many cultures from there...

That's fantastic!

Really pleased it was useful

Hooray!

And scientists think; first there was twine, then there was nets. aa some of the earliest technologies humans used!

Thank you!

That's wonderful to hear! Thanks for letting me know it was useful 🙂

But not mastered the slip knot at the beginning I used a stainless steel ring

Time is a major factor in any historical project, we just aren't used to thinking about time in a way that we may have done in the past.

Well, you have to remember that they weren't sitting around in their spare time watching RU-vid videos either... Just think how much time that frees up... :)

I wish i was taught this rather than crochet and embroidery, as a net bag and the makings of a simple fish net would have helped me more than making scarves or embellishing pillow cases

You are absolutely right, I used the wrong word for the knot. I'd usually call this a larkshead knot but got my words wrong

Yes, smooth, and the shuttle should be no wider than the gauge stick

@@SallyPointer Made the tools. Got some butcher's twine for an experimental run. Totally confused almost instantly and while my mind can follow your instructions, my hands and eyes cannot ;) The twine immediately twists upon itself forming extra loops, the first three or four tries at making the first knot Un made the knot instead ;) Finally got the first knot (I think) and promptly lost the base loop that the next knot needs to go around. Have I made a poor material choice with the butcher's twine, or is it just a matter of learning the process and teaching the fingers to keep the twine from twisting, etc. ?

Where would we be without helpful cats!

You are most welcome. Hope you have fun with it!

@@SallyPointer Thank you...I am tinkering with it now...I have made two so far. Question, does doing the 1 and 2 knots alternatively create a wider base for the bag?

@@theurbanabo yes, it's fairly intuitive, if you need wider again, do another set of increases in the following round, maybe an increase every fourth stitch next time rather that every other one and that should give a really wide bag

@@SallyPointer Cool! That is what I figured...the first one, I made following your instructions and using store-bought jutte twine, is approximately 15" (38cm) long and 3" (8cm) wide at the base unfilled. The second one (I did two rounds) is larger, being 24" (60cm) long and approximately 5" (13cm) wide at the base - It looks too difficult to measure volume ;) Anyways, thank you again M'Lady...I have been wanting to know how to do this technique for a loooooooong time! Cheers! :D

@@SallyPointer BTW...I put something in the tip-jar for you. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge! Now off to make another bag ;)

Absolutely the same!

Great idea!

Cotton yarn should work fine

Sally Pointer Thanks for responding! That gives me the confidence to try it. 😊

Not exactly, it's not a massive amount though, a typical ball of string should be plenty to have a first go

It's not something I've ever needed to do, especially as fine fluff will quickly wear off as the item gets used,, but I know a lot of people do like singing off loose bits