Making A Webtoon Canvas From Start to Finish: Thumbnails Panel Page Layout using Clip Studio Paint 

Hah. Perfect! And they will tell their children and thus the story will live forever!

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Daddy Walter :D

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​@@eiji3525 you are allowed to now

Exactly. Well worth the amount of brain stress processing power.

Hah, put it on paper. Make it real. Even if it only because a real ramble ;-)

That’s how mine is. I have scenes I really wanna do so what I’m going to do is write it all down then piece it together. I already have an outlines planned in my head so I think it will go alright I hope

Oof, that sounds frustrating ;-) Hope this makes life easy...if comics can ever be easy.

I.... WAS ALSO.... THINKING OF DOING THIS... MY GOD we have been saved

Definitely helps to keep the visuals on track.

Yeah, that's actually the main thing I needed to know. It was a really big help.

Yeah, sometimes it's fine, but it can really mess things up.

Happy to help! Thanks for watching!

Don your canvas armor, raise your pencil swords high, and prepare to art!

Thanks for sticking around and watching. Much love!

It take a little while for it to become ingrained. Which is why it's always good to have a template file that you can reuse, lowers the risk of forgetting something important.

I'll see if I can put one together. Thanks for watching.

Awesome! Let me know when you start posting it, I'd love to see it.

What’s your comic called?

Desiree Anti Hi, I decided to keep working on the script some more, so nothing is up yet :) thanks!

Hah. Are you making a sci-fi comic?

Welcome to the channel! All free content, all the time!

Demon eyes!

Thank you for you kind words, Fu! I am happy I am helping. Good luck with your comic and your growth as an artist!

@@walterostlie Thank you, Walter! I do enjoy every videos that you upload. I shared them with my girlfriend and currently boost up our mood to finish the FIRST EPISODE ever. Now it's time to start thumbnailing. I would like to support you! We would! I'll share about you to my students even my Instagram, it might not be much help for now. But I decide to do so instead. I am still struggling with current financial security, because of pandemic. After everything's clear. I will go to Patreon and fully support you, Walter. This I PROMISE you.

Appreciate you FU. Sharing my channel with people means a lot to me. Don't worry about the other stuff, take care of yourself.

Happy to help! Thanks for watching and the comment.

Thank you! I hope it makes a difference.

That's what I'm all about. Call me Mr. Robot ;-)

I am excited to complete the series. Hopefully I can pass off all the information people will need. Or at least most of it.

There are a lot of things you can play with when it comes to gutter space on the left and right. Zero gutter can make the panel feel larger and more in-your-face. If you make a panel very small, it can make a character feel small or weak. Shrinking panels can have a time slowdown affect. Increasing could speed things up. Large panels slow the pace for the reader because they have to spend time. Small panels, less detail, speed up the pace. Prolly more, just have to play around with it.

@@walterostlie I'll keep those in mind and play around with it. Thank you! :)

Thanks for watching

It's always more important to do what works for you, versus what anyone else is doing. Doing the sketchy storyboards eases me into the drawing process so I don't have to go from 0 to 100 instantly.

Thank you for watching! Hope it's helping.

Awesome, thanks for watching. Best of luck with your comic.

Are you talking about coming up with the name for your comic or coming up with the look of the logo? Thinking of a name can be tricky, because you want it to be so many things. Sometimes you can name it after the character or what they are going after. Like Harry Potter or Excalibur. Sometimes you can name it after the problem/conflict in the story. But usually the name has something to do with something in the story. Just say or write down all the things in your story and pick your favorite. At the end of the day, the comic will make the name great, the name will not make the comic great. So don't worry too much about the name. Just make sure the name isn't hard to spell, say, or read. if you are trying to make the logo, that's tough. Look at a bunch of other comics, get ideas. It's okay to be inspired. Sometimes I find it easier to draw the logo than find a font, there are so many fonts to look through. But if you do use a font, try to change it as much as you can, make the letters taller or fatter, move them around. Just so it doesn't look like you only typed it.

My pleasure. Good luck with your comic, let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks for watching!

That could work. I've started using logic leap.

Hey, thanks for watching.

Hey, glad it was helpful. And congrats on finishing your comic and submitting to the contest. The comic I worked on in this video was just something I created for the video. But this is the link to the single episode if you want to see the complete thing. www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/joe-v-sindra/list?title_no=387870 This is my actual webtoon comic www.webtoons.com/en/sf/haxor/list?title_no=1325

@@walterostlie Thank you and thank you for the links! I just read Joe v. Sindra and its super EPIC! I loved seeing you work on it in the video then seeing the finished project. Supper cool! great job! and i look forward to reading your comic. Hopefully i do very in the contest since I kinda drew every scene traditional before coloring it digitally, then adding the speech bubbles. so your videos are relly helpful. thanks again!

Thank you, thank you! You rock!

On their website, you signup for an account, then click your profile picture in the upper right, go to dashboard and then click create series. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nWsJrox5aQw.html

Woot!

Awesome. Glad the method works for you. Was weird trying to figure out good ways to handle the webtoon format. I'm sure we'll all keep learning better ways to do things.

@@walterostlie yea webtoons format very different from traditional comic format, however alot of the tutorials ive seen have involved photoshop and as someone who uses only clip, this is a good way to go about it since the programs dont have the same tools. So thank you all the same!

Hey, thank you for watching. Hope the video helped in some way.

@@walterostlie definitely did! I'm starting webtooning and I've already binged through your videos. Very helpful, subscribed!

@@grandqa did u end up making the series?

I don't know if you can add fonts to procreate, but the best comic fonts are on blambot.com and over half of them are free.

Glad it helped, let me know if you have any questions.

Happy birthday! Belated.

I am using shortcut keys, I sometimes forget that not everyone knows them. So I do ctrl a to select the entire canvas ctrl c to copy that selection go to the template ctrl v to paste it into the template ctrl t to transform the box. That's it. You can also access these via the menus. Select it under select. The rest are under edit. Hope that helps.

Yes! Thanks a lot.

They are so tough. That is the bulk of the work for drawing comics. Comic art would be at least 50% easier if you didn't have to do thumbs.

Walter Ostlie 😅yah.. i skipped it before & my pages looked like sh-😳. currently redoing pages for my comics. i’m binging your videos for tips 🤓

Yes, it would be 12,000 x 19,200 . A really large file. Any reason you're drawing at 2400 px wide? I used to do 3300px wide, but realized that it was prolly way too big for no reason.

@@walterostlie hi, thanks for getting back to me. I'm using Webtoons format and I saw another tutorial saying to increase the size to add more details then decrease (I increased it 3x) once you're ready to split and post. I was going to work one sheet at a time, but having several makes more sense to me; it's hard to explain 😊

Size is kinda weird. In the second to last video of this series, I show how to prep the file for upload and I use a website that cuts the image into small pieces and also shrinks it to 800px wide. The reason I did 900 for this video is because that is 3 inches of hi-res print resolution. Which would hopefully be enough resolution for a single panel if you decided to print it later. A lot of artists use even larger resolutions because they like to zoom in and add tiny details. Or because they want to make sure they have more options to print their panels extra large if needed (promo, posters, etc). However, the larger the file the more it will tax your computer and also will take up more space on your hard drive. every 300 pixels is an inch of hi-res print resolution. If you want super hi-res, then every 600px is one inch of super-hi-res print resolution. Drawing the comic in multiple columns allows me to see the entire comic on a single screen. So I can see if the panels are exciting, varied, that there is good storytelling. A long strip it can be hard to get an overall view of an episode.

Wow, thanks!

Glad it helped. Here's a video specifically for cropping ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8eMBWVrwDqg.html

Hey, awesome question. Thanks for making me actually think about this and put it into words. I think there are few reasons... 1. Scrolling on webtoon means you usually won't see two panels next to each other, so you don't really notice the similarity of panels as you read. With traditional comics, you see all the panels at once, you would notice if they all looked the same and it wouldn't be a great looking page overall. This is the big reason why you can't use more headshots in Traditional comics. 2. Traditional comics have a finite amount of space, every panel/page is an extra amount of $$ to print. So having 100 pages of headshots wouldn't be a great use of page real estate. 3. webtoon readers have grown accustomed to more headshots. Traditional comics readers have grown accustomed to variation of panels. I guess this is a chicken or the egg situation. With Webcomics, creators tend to be making their comics during their free time, so they had to find ways to make comics faster. Drawing head shots are immensely quicker to draw than most other panels. I think readers have grown to accept this over time. 4. Webtoon is read via phone. It's a small screen. Details and huge epic environment drawings don't have the same impact. Close ups of emotion have a lot of punch on a small screen. 5. Larger text in Webtoon means you can't fit as much dialogue into a single panel. So drawing another headshot to hold the rest of the dialogue is fine because the reader will be paying attention to the dialogue and less so to the art. Traditional comics tend to have smaller font size, so they can't fit more text into a single panel. There are prolly other reasons, but these are the first to come to mind. I think it is also important to say that you can use a lot of headshots in traditional comics if you want. It could even look kinda cool to have a page of talking heads if you did it right, but it's not something you could do other and other in traditional comics before traditional comic readers noticed. And webtoons could use no headshots if they wanted as well.

I am not sure what you mean? are you talking about comics that are created by placing 3d objects in a 3 dimensional environment, then taken a "photo" of the scene that was created for use in a sequential 2d static comic? Sorta like taking a CG movie like Frozen and using still images of that movie as comic book panels?

@@walterostlie Yes. The one where placing 3d objects and in 3 dimensional environment. Like in 3d, does it mean more detail and 2d has less or what is the difference between the two?

@@sweetdulce364 3D gives better perspective and dynamic than 2D, but 2D gives you a wider variety of detail, touches, and I think is easier to work with

Very nice! I've been wanting to look at Ibis and a good method for it, but haven't had time. I was thinking the only way would just be to use a bunch of individual 800x1280 files. but that is cool that ibis can handle larger files.

@@walterostlie yuppp, i'm working on a webtoon and for chapter 2 i did it like that xD, i used a buch of 800x1280 files (and some longer strips) and when i was done i combined everything using gimp on pc (it was quite a lot of work loll). Now for chapter 3 i'm gonna try out this method! (I'm still gonna use gimp to form the long stripe tho)

Let me know how it goes

@@walterostlie alright 😸😸

You can use any drawing program you want. You could use a crayon and a napkin.

A panel is just a box shape or any shape containing a "panel" So there isn't a specific type of manga panel. You can just use a ruler to draw lines. There isn't a specific one panel size for all cases. You can think of the image you upload to Webtoon as being around 2.5 inches wide and a little over 4 inches tall. So you can divide a piece of paper into columns that size. Once you're down drawing, if you don't have a scanner to scan the drawing to your computer, you can take a photo with a camera and then use a free software to edit the image. Medibang, gimp, krita, etc

Thanks a lot my friend!!!

Yes. I have an old Cintiq 21UX.

That's tricky to answer and will depend a lot on your comic. If you are doing big action splash pages or double splash pages, focusing on print format will be better. If you comic is a little more calm, starting with either could be fine. If you want to focus mostly on Webtoon growth, using that format to it's full potential would be a good idea. Print is good for bold cinematic panels or splashes, that won't have as much impact when converted to webtoon. Webtoon is great for creating an immersive, seemless storytelling, which doesn't work or fit into a print page.

@@walterostlie Thank you for taking the time to give a clear and thorough reply. No huge splash pages, but true to what you said, directing it and leading the eye would drastically differ. I liked the way things pan out in webtoon format, there's no chance for the reader's eye to wander throughout the page and would be restricted to one event at a time. However and was thinking that in exhibitions I would have a better chance to market myself had i a few printed comics to sell rather than handing out flyers that I've a comic on webtoon. What are your thoughts about this?

You can just upload your comic pages as you have them in american format, but it won't work perfect. The font is most likely going to be too small. The right way to do it is to copy your panels into a new file, and stack the panels on top of each other. Then bring your text layers over, but larger compared to the art. You'll have to make your lettering go outside the boxes since the are bigger and will no longer fit.

thanks for info I be watching

Did I say that? Thumbnails are the most important thing about comics, ever! Thumbnails are basically sketching your entire comic. This allows you to see if the art work is telling the story effectively, makes sure there are enough panels, see that the panels are varied and exciting. They do so much. It allows you to see your comic without have to do a lot of work, so you can quickly make changes. Very important.

I don't think you can do too much with those blue lines from the file in MediBang. They are pulled from the original photoshop file I created and then exported to Medibang. You can hide them though by going to view menu and turning off "guidelines" You can create our own guides in medibang by using "Snap" menu and parallel or by use "View" and grid settings. Hope that helps.

@@walterostlie Thank you so much for this! I hope I can also successfully run my own webtoon soon!

Check out blambot.com for a bunch of free to use fonts created by a professional letterer. He also has some pay fonts if you want to support him. I am using out of line font.

@@walterostlie Thank you !!

It depends. 40-60 is a good place to start. It's what works for your story and your schedule. Some are 10 panels, some are 100.

Walter Ostlie Ok thanks! Keep up the good work on RU-vid and Webtoon!

Nah, we all learn from each other's experience. Which part?

@@walterostlie I mean doing all your thumbnails in one file divided in long strips. I always have a problem with "seeing" the pace, and grow insecure about it when I'm in an advanced stage (for example when I'm coloring), and maybe start to move things around (and mess everything up), just because I don't have an overview. Thank you! :)

Do a lot of quick sketches to get a few ideas. Pick you favorite, tweak it to make it look even better. Than draw a very high resolution version of it. Or draw it with vector art. You can really use any art program. Illustrator, photoshop, and ClipStudio can do vector art

You can do that.

You can do it the same way as this. Just look at the main things I am doing, you should be able to replicate most of this in Krita using similar tools.

Thank you!

None of the important stuff I did was ClipStudio specific. You should be able to do all of this in Krita.

So I am not sure what that webtoon preset from CSP is meant for, but you shouldn't use it for Webtoon. Webtoon has a requirement of 800 px wide. If you draw at 690px wide, your art is going to end up looking blurry or small on Webtoon. But you could still use the phone trick, it will won't be exactly correctly because of the size difference.

@@walterostlie 😆 so they give one that's not even worth using! Got it! Ok back to your template and the clippy site! Thank you again!

Digi-pen. A used Wacom Cintiq 21-ux

I haven't done it, but I think a lot of people are using Ibis Paint on their phones. Let me know if you have any luck.

@@walterostlie Ok thanks.

@@walterostlie Btw do you know the size it should be?

You can only upload canvas. you have to be invited to be an original. original creators are paid a publishing fee by webtoon. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oUCzDcTs0VI.html

@@walterostlie okay thank you! I was so confused at first. This helped me! Keep up your great webtoons :))

I'm actually working on a new Webtoon now, hopefully launching in November.

Basically it just let's the layers below that phone screen layer still retain the same level of "black". If the layer is multiply, then black on the layers below will still be black. If you change multiply to normal, it will color the black lines to whatever color is on the phone screen layer.

@@walterostlie thank you!

You can draw on paper and use a camera to take a photo to upload to Webtoon

@@walterostlie I get it now. Thank you for replying!

If you hold shift on your keyboard while you are moving layers, it will lock it into a vertical or horizontal movement only.

@@walterostlie🙇‍♂️ dude thank you I though man this guy has perfect accuracy

You can use any art app. The one I use is Clip Studio Paint. You have to pay for it, but it's not super expensive and they have sales about 4 times a year. It's a good app with a lot of built-in comic features. If you want free check out Medibang.

Walter Ostlie thanks so much :)

Yes, a lot of people have done that. I think they use Ibis Paint?

You just have to repeat a step for each column you have. Check out the layout video to explain what I do with this final when I'm done, it will be clear. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YxO6J3DtQBg.html I've also changed the way I've done things because of the new clip studio features which you can check out here if you use clip studio ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6vheFi1EGS8.html

@@walterostlie Thank you! I’m using medibang paint for this so I’m trying to adapt the lessons best I can

let me know if you run into any problems. Have fun.