Making Copper & Aluminium Bars to sell on eBay 

Need to talk further more after reading your comment ended up with a nice idea. P.S, even subscribed

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I've been making my round stock in galvanized pipes, I burn the galvanized coating off or use uncoated when I can. Weld 2 or 3 tabs to pipe so I can use a 8 ton lever action jack to push stock out of pipe. I thread a cap on end to seal then pour. Just cut off the ends to square and you can use any diameter pipe cut to any length as long as you have a way to push it out. Be very careful not to get air bubbles that will explode when cooling. If you use coffee or soup cans they can be stripped off if you have ripples in cans.

Ya not really that requires way more work than the bar would be worth as pure copper anyway plus it would be super hard to hide a metal that melts at 500 degrees inside of 1800 degree+ liquid copper

Where?

I was thinking the same. I would like to track them and see how they sell.

It's a 3kg crucible

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Bugger all because all they will give you is the current rate per weight which doesn't take into account the overhead efforts to make bars. I know this because ive sold them solid buss-bars from electrical cabinets and then they even tried to do me out of weight to keep the expense down for themselves. The sneeky little turd was putting counter weights on his scales so the weight would look like 16% less than it actually was. I was his scale technician and my job was to ensure his scales would read correctly. Just as well I didn't go by his scales before I calibrated them because he would have taken around $109 out of my pockets. He was confronted and I told him that if I catch him doing this again then I`ll be reporting him. It was the 2nd time he`d been caught already but he claimed he didn't know - typical liar.

What a dick tbh

VERY FUN!

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Where? no it wouldn't be pence to run do your own calculations I am no mathematician and in this case even blind Freddy could see that to bring a electric furnace from cold to approx 1200f melting Aluminum or copper to a flowing melting point it would have to chew into your profits then if you left it on and refilled it for another pour and did this for say an hour it would have to cost money Then as aluminum for example is varied in quality depending what you use for your raw material IE would say Car alternators be a better quality Bar than the same size in Used cool drink cans ? or even heat sinks and so on that surely has to effect the prices I have had a 1 kw grid tied solar system working for over 6 years also another nearly 1100w stand alone hybrid system ( wind and solar) working for same time you become very very Conscious of energy use over that time I doubt I could heat up a furnace for any time without being also on the grid power as it would flatten my battery bank in doing so I am on 240v herein Australia but I would think a furnace would have to use approx 3 to 5 kw of power an hour if not more a kitchen kettle uses 2400w albeit to get up to boiling temps for water for only a short time surely 1200f temps would have to take 20 minutes? ish ? then to bring the metal to pour temps I am just trying folks to bring to your attention be careful on your losses I'm 57 years old and have d Moved out of home 38ish years ago you tend to have to keep in mind all these extra costs when you have to pay the bills even using gas to fire a furnace would have to be added into your costs I wpould think some sort of Modified Rocket stove or burning Waste oil in a furnace would be the best way to go esp if you have a source of free wood or used oil then you would have to go and get it it all adds up and eats into your profits I love the idea and would love to try myself and will one day esp if I can do so and use surplus heat from say a blacksmith forge Tony

It's a 1.5kw appliance, perhaps look up what a 1.5kw appliance uses per hour, about 35c per hour

I apologize Ben didn't mean to sound like a troll I was more concerned with amount of effort you put in to collect, sort, strip , melt and then hope to sell it all eats into your profits, often people don't take into account the other costs for the self employed and end up wondering why they arent getting ahead I love the idea of making something useful out of recyclable items But we have to keep the realities in mind as well Tony

SonicScooter Thanks for commenting It is fun to do such I have just after many years of wanting to started my silver Stash ( Coins and Bars ) and am just as excited by that possibility, I could see it becoming VERY addictive ! I do know in America that wages are very Low per hourly rate ( But that is a Pro Rata Economy thing to each country anyway) and was concerned that in many cases Wisdom cant be transposed to young heads and some get caught up in the thrill of the chase and it isnt until the bills roll in that they get a huge unwanted surprise at what goes out as well I Was watching some channel the other day about one bloke scrapping and melting a heap of car alternators looks like a good Aluminum and copper source ( for quality Aluminum )

Moondyne .Joe sent as I was thinking. Copper is only under $3/lb, not worth much

Sounds like a logo metal stamp in the making, eWaste Ben. ;)

Sean Foltz All depends I also make them But I do it at my job so I’m still getting paid for working at the same time I am making my bars I work in buildings so the plumber and the electrician give me the brass in the copper for free After I sell them to the scrap yard for a lot of money I turn around and use the money to buy silver So basically I do it at my job during my working hours And I get the material for free

6.88 to sit at home doing something other than Netflix and Hulu

Not super ways to make a furnace this guy did waste a lot of money buying one and you can use wood you don't have to use propane that's retarded And obviously this is something you would do in the afternoon after you're done with work it's always good to have more than one source of income

@@Detroitdiesel285 exactly

lmao

You might be on to something there

100% this. As with normal steel and stainless steel.

No and it`s also the wrong grade to be lathed.

I would appreciate any ones advice. I'm new to this.

you would sell it as is, there's no added value melting if your just going to sell to a scrap yard

eWaste Ben well I would sell it else wear if I did melt I just don't know wear. It's bright bare copper number 1 and I didn't know if I would be better off just selling it to the scrap yard as is.

Thanks for respond I appreciate all the help I can get.

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Until you get copper poisoning by cooking acidic foods in untreated copper

There's a couple in the link in the description

yes, try not to breath it when it smokes up every time you add copper

Sure about that are just here say?

I don't cast molds myself, not yet anyway, but I have read that preheating them ensures that there is absolutely no moisture and thus no bubbling. I have also read that this depends on the type of mold being used. Preheating also ensures that the molten metal sets more evenly. This is just what I have read in forums and blogs, like I said, I have no first hand experience yet.

I believe it is this one: www.amazon.com/Graphite-Melting-Casting-Silver-Nonferrous/dp/B07LDQH228/ref=sxin_3_ac_m_pm?ac_md=2-1-QWJvdmUgJDIw-ac_d_pm&cv_ct_cx=graphite+ingot+mold&keywords=graphite+ingot+mold&pd_rd_i=B07LDQH228&pd_rd_r=4cdecb98-697c-4644-9b5a-85b274a96c81&pd_rd_w=FUJhq&pd_rd_wg=iw5Y4&pf_rd_p=7d20a4a8-392e-4493-b921-9340b9e850ce&pf_rd_r=38ENSACC8VGT5894YH8Y&psc=1&qid=1581978927&sr=1-2-3f74d940-526b-436f-a83d-f486577edf4d

No it's not you can make a one for free/ cheep thinking of making a RU-vid channel

@@wesley100011 please make the channel

look on ebay.

Alot of shops will give you waste oil, in the states anyway... They no longer pay for waste oil turn in

Avalanche2 my crucible asked for less than 10 melts. So I made one from steel. Worked great but after about week solid of meting brass and copper I burnt the coils out so I just stick with my waste oil foundry 700cdn out the window. And like he said you can’t fit much in them. I can pour 25 pound bars in my outside foundry

$40k worth of gold? about 6 pc's, 8 monitors, 16 vacuum cleaners and 7 pop up toasters should do it.

copper moves differently to gold, it's probably affordability, people like big stacks 1lb copper is a few bucks, 1lb gold is 20k

If you plan to sell on the open market, use the commodity's price index. You'll get better returns and you'll be selling at fair market value. Always check each day. -Advid Investor- Good luck to you. I wish you the best.👍😁

at the moment i'm using them as an experiment to see if they sell on ebay

i would go by weight , if all your cans weigh 1 pound then thats about what you will get minus the waste you take off the top which wouldn't be much if any .

You would need some serious ventilation, when adding copper it will smoke up a lot, toxic to breath it. For a start the 3kg electric furnace first on my list is a good start, you will need a good supply of crucibles, melting copper eats them up quick

Electricity is not ever free... If u think u got "free electricity" because electricity use is included in your rent, then you will probably be evicted when the owners get the bill and realise your an asshole who took advantage of their trust. But if you somehow have free electricity through renewable energy you are making yourself, then ignore the previous stuff.

yeah i piss mine out , to hard to carry .

water is renewable