Making Money on a Machine that's HOW OLD?! | CNC Machining at a Job Shop

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Follow me through the basics of starting and completing a job at a CNC job shop. I go through reverse engineering with a 3D scanner to programming and machining complete parts. All on a machine that is older than me?!
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Hi, my name is Andrew and I have been in the manufacturing industry basically since I was born. With exposure coming from my dad, I naturally took an interest in manufacturing and engineering. Now 24 years old, I have a passion for CNC machining and being in the business of utilizing fixturing, tooling, programming, etc. to make parts efficient while maintaining that dead-nuts accurate “DNA” precision.
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Insta: @dnamfg
Questions: info@dnamfg.com
#jobshop #precision #aerospace #cnc #cncmachining #cncmachine #cncmanufacturing

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@smallfry0241 9 месяцев назад

I work on many machines from the the mid 80s-90s and they still run parts really well. It amazes me how well this technology holds up, and I think it always will.

@TyroneK001 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for taking the time to make this! Your choice of shot angles was great. Subbed for the future programming and process talks 👍

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

Thanks! Looking forward to posting more informative stuff soon

@weldmachine 9 месяцев назад

Not only great work making these parts. But, also great work taking the time to make this video 👍👍 It's enough to make parts, add to that make it into a video 😬 IF you do get a chance to show more including sharing more about the program. You can put me down as at least 1 view 🤗 Thanks for taking the time to bring us along 😉

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

Appreciate that! It was very hard not to get into detail 😮‍💨 just didn’t want it to be an hour+ video. But could be something to look out for in the future 👀

@dokladnietak3769 9 месяцев назад

I really enjoy watching videos made like this. I can't wait to see the programming side

@jmeleika1 9 месяцев назад

Nice work. Very efficient work flow. Attention to detail, and just overall logistics of minimizing error. Killin man, subscribed.

@shaunblanchard866 9 месяцев назад

Nice work great video as a fellow cnc operator i love watching chips fly 👍

@50STUNT 9 месяцев назад

Horizontal is the way to go!! Mori Seiki is high end machine . clean work!

@dutchgold7057 3 месяца назад

Man love the vibe just a chill laidback machinist

@r3FMusic 7 месяцев назад

Thanks.. Programming and manufacturing stages. A video showing all the stages, including CAM making, would be great.

@AzurePain 9 месяцев назад

This was a nice surprise from my recommended :) . Almost the exact same Mori I run. Always has battery issues and the b-axis only moving in 1 degree increments yet it's still one of my favorite machines. Good video :) . Got my sub.

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

Appreciate that! Yeah wish it was full b-axis but still a great machine

@naisbyw3276 8 месяцев назад

I have recently bought my first cnc machine. A CNC lathe, Mori Seiki SL 25. Such a good machine, well built and rigid. Thanks for the cool video. Nice machine👍

@TwoBirdsOneStoned420 9 месяцев назад

Great video! Love this new channel can’t wait to see the growth of the channel and machining you do!

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

Thanks, appreciate that!

@RSPFactory 9 месяцев назад

Good job, with the part and videography. One suggestion- use corncob roughers, not only can you cut faster but the chips compress better and don't clog everything up.

@garrettwolfford5917 9 месяцев назад

YG1 chip splitters!

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

This 👆

@Vankel83 9 месяцев назад

That's like the perfect job for a horizontal. Chip evacuation at its finest. Good job.

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

Tell me about it 🤌

@jessdigs 7 месяцев назад

I’m not a machinist, but I can tell that the 3d scanner was a game changer when it comes to reproducing existing parts. Cool video.

@blabla-kk8bl 26 дней назад

It depends on accurasy ,generally laser scanners are not enough for high accuracy requirements.

@TimFelbinger 9 месяцев назад

Great video! - Would love to see that programming video too and how you thought through your various setups

@northmanlogging2769 9 месяцев назад

oh man... way way back, I ran one of these machines that was spanking new, new enough they were still enginerding the coolant filter and larger tanks... I wasn't exactly new to machining then either, was the first shop I became a manager of edit... and its parked next to a VF6? flash backs man... but that shop is no more so?

@TheLawnWanderer 9 месяцев назад

I regularly work on a SH-63 with a 400mm rotary table for simultaneous 5 axis, almost just 5 axis work. Machine is top specced with HPCC and large dataserver, I prefer it over the newer machines we have.

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

Oh man, that must be a nice setup!

@TheLawnWanderer 9 месяцев назад

It also has bigplus dual contact 50 taper spindle. Linear rails and ball screw on Z is scheduled for replacement next year. @@dnamfg

@gertkristensen6451 5 месяцев назад

nice to see some real cnc work.. keep it up

@luckgrip252 7 месяцев назад

Horizontals have one major advantage in my eyes and that is chip evacuation. I'm working on 2 vertical spindle machines (Haas VF2 SSYT 2020 machine, Dahlih MCV 720 idk which year that is, but all I can say is that it is quite a bit older) (in my company we have only 2 mills and it's enough to do all the work necessary for company needs - we're making parts for ourselves if you could say that) Edit: I would love to make parts of that size, that would be really cool and fun to machine.

@jacobhermosillo1891 8 месяцев назад

I enjoy this kind of content dude. Thank you kindly for the edutainment!

@kevind1865 9 месяцев назад

Great editing, great machining, and a really, really engaging format. I'm looking forward to more videos in the future! Did you use the actual mesh and mesh program to give you the model surfaces, or did you just use it as a reference to create your own geometry?

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

Appreciate that! I used the mesh to get silhouettes that I can then dimension and constrain. Thinking about making a more technical video on the design and programming so look out for that soon

@diederrr 9 месяцев назад

@@dnamfgthat would be cool, I find it hard to work with a scan file as a starting point , would be neat to see your flow deep dive with it

@damientoomey1194 9 месяцев назад

Cool video, I love watching how other people setup and program their jobs, generally it’s different to how I would have approached it so good to see all the different ways to do a job. I’m a massive horizontal fan. How old is that machine? it looks very similar to a 1998 Mazak htc-400. I have a Mazak fh5800 which I make aluminium parts on.

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

Forgot off the top of my head but I know from the 90s. Look out for the next video, going to post a deep dive into the technical stuff of this project!

@alierman4276 9 месяцев назад

You may use Haimer Centro tool to find the hole center easily and precisely.

@ultimatebadshot 9 месяцев назад

Heck yeah! Keep it up! Keep the trade alive.

@oulinsaeteurn9078 8 месяцев назад

Nice work. But if it was me. I would dovetail the part n jaws. Hog out the part with a 3/4 em at max speed n feed at least 250 . I agreed how u did the 1st op. But would make a fixture to bolt down the threaded holes n support the thin outer wall for second op. I hope this Offended u but dovetail is the way to go when roughing

@highlandermachineworks5795 9 месяцев назад

I'm all manual. But I want to learn to cnc. As soon as i can afford one, I'm gonna get one.

@altaf_121 9 месяцев назад

Can you also make a video about programming and tool selection with offsets in machine, I too recently bought a 1980 VMC as my first machine

@davidschnabel1304 5 месяцев назад

Great vid. Older Moris are together and accurate. How do you know what the feature tolerances should be?

@richardcary978 9 месяцев назад

Excellent work. Great video. Thanks!

@StavoSandoval Месяц назад

Great job. are those parts for the aerospace industry, also are you familiar with 5 axis marching? Thanks!

@GLAJMAN 9 месяцев назад

Hello, non machinist here. But like watching machinist videos. Couple of questions. On older machines, how do you transfer what you program in Solidworks or your CAD program, to the machine? Do you punch it in manually? How much money did you earn on this job. If it's too personal, feel free not to answer. I don't have a reference point to what a job like this would earn you. That's why I'm asking. I subbed for future videos. Nice format! Feel free to make a video of your workflow, from start to finish.

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

Working on a video that will hopefully answer all your questions! 🙌

@jaskaasi 8 месяцев назад

bruv i used to machine on some polish manual lathe machine from the 1953 iirc and on some machines cnc lathes etc from 1980-1990s

@Awfultyming 9 месяцев назад

Thanks forsharing. Use the same drill/bit combo for debur

@chrisrudy1969 9 месяцев назад

Great video! Thanks for sharing!

@farrasm_cnc7344 9 месяцев назад

yeah please do more for programming and explain the machining strategies. Thanks for sharing 👍

@gertkristensen6451 28 дней назад

the model you are scanning, is it a finished workpiece or a model. 3d printed / sla model ?? I have worked with scanning that small objects 10 x 15x 12 mm can tell you it was impossible to scan. the subject for hearing aids / ear plugs

@mcping 9 месяцев назад

Great work, really nice finishes. Question, why do you use an old edge finder and not like a Haimer ?

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

Trust me…I wish I could 😮‍💨

@lvxleather 9 месяцев назад

Nice work bro. What scanner are you using? I'm looking at getting one for our shop.

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

That was a handy scan black elite. On the more expensive side, but trust me it’s worth every penny. Makes a world of difference when you’re doing the reverse engineering

@adunne123 8 месяцев назад

3D scanner do you have a link to this or are you doing a Video on the 3D scanner its super cool :)

@adambergendorff2702 8 месяцев назад

I love old machines, high production of the same part I would be bored after 1 day, don't want the stress of payments from a new machine.

@jeremycable51 9 месяцев назад

That’s pretty sweet setup work

@DeadHippie62 9 месяцев назад

Loved the video. My question is, how do you get a program that large into a machine that old? I run a little Sharp 2412 VMC circa 2003. If I tried to load even the first op, I couldn't even fit one tenth of it into my machines memory, let alone 2 roughing and 2 finish ops.

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

Nice observation…so I actually have to use arc smoothing to produce a lot less code. This usually insures I’ll have enough space. But also I believe the prior owners of this machine upgraded the memory bc it has 2MB

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

Not to mention it takes like 20min to send code that is around 100kb

@adunne123 8 месяцев назад

Class Video

@edenochoa2337 9 месяцев назад

Great work man! would be nice if possible sharing what they paid for this? Very involved process .

@3073Sean 9 месяцев назад

Dang bro, you have to tell me what is that finishing tool your using on the outside of the part. It sounds really good for being so long. Looks like 3 inches. My guess 3 flute 3 inch, 1/2 diameter? What are your speeds and feeds?

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

YG-1 5/8” endmill. I love the YG endmills for aluminum

@stunningandbrave3527 9 месяцев назад

good shit man parts look mint, if you havent already try Helical endmills sometime, they absolutely shred, ive used YG recently and while theyre definatley a great endmill i find myself always going back to helical. keep up the good work.

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

I’ve used helical a few times, but for the price and surface finish YG has me 😮‍💨 but maybe I’ll give helical another shot

@dnjmachine 9 месяцев назад

Thanks. I really enjoyed the video. Subbed for more!

@leanmixture 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for posting. Subbed if there are options sold based on this channel I’m a buyer 😅. Good luck

@dariennappi1401 9 месяцев назад

Thank you

@fdkfskfkvmk441254741 8 месяцев назад

Hello sir, I'm about to open a workshop. Do you recommend me this machine to start the bussiness?

@rowycoracing 9 месяцев назад

Nice work!

@yelims20 9 месяцев назад

a miss is good as a mile

@mericm1981 9 месяцев назад

Nice job!

@PDRPRECISION 9 месяцев назад

Great video

@customtobi576 9 месяцев назад

good old SH40… 👍🏼

@GurdeepSekhon-w1r 9 месяцев назад

What software you use for reverse engineering first scan it in vx elements then which one to convert to cad please share

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

I used Geomagic DesignX for this, but I also like using vx elements to extract all the geometry and silhouettes I need and then doing a live transfer to SW

@Thys00nPL 9 месяцев назад

Hi. Good Video 😁 My Q is Whats the point of splitting rough and finish for 2 ops/setups?

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

Very good question, based on the feedback I’ve gotten I’m going to make a video going more in-depth on the technical details. Look out for that!

@brandons9138 9 месяцев назад

With as much material as he's removing the part is going to flex and mover around. By roughing the entire thing out first the residual stress in the material will relax. Large pieces of material often have internal stresses in them that can cause the part to warp if not processed correctly. In this case if he roughed and finished the first side then took the material off the back of the part there is a good chance that his first op features would warp and shift around on him.

@damaunu 9 месяцев назад

Nice work

@viniciusbraun9935 9 месяцев назад

nice video, take my subscription 😁

@510ybarra 9 месяцев назад

Awsome to see parts being machined. I'm on the other side of that. A machinery mover/rigger. Cool! 👍

@jaredfaustino6493 9 месяцев назад

do you own the shop?

@jeronimomod156 9 месяцев назад

Nice

@andrzejmichalczuk7662 9 месяцев назад

What kind of scanner this is ?

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

Creaform handy scan black elite

@andrzejmichalczuk7662 9 месяцев назад

@@dnamfg thanks! Merry Christmas!

@mattiasarvidsson8522 9 месяцев назад

your dad is that guy with the integrex? you sound exactly the same haha

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

You talking about Edge Precision? 😂

@billdivine9501 9 месяцев назад

You think this machine is old? You should see my shop! 😂

@3dwezzy740 9 месяцев назад

🔥

@DominikHartmann 5 месяцев назад

good old sh-40 xD

@joes2085 9 месяцев назад

Excellent video production and topic. I'm encouraged that there are indeed young skilled craftsmen out there. Unlike the 20ish moronic snowflakes i encounter daily.

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

Ha appreciate that 😂

@Copesthetic-Aesthetic 9 месяцев назад

This will change when you get older. I promise.

@OmeMachining 9 месяцев назад

I use machines from the 50' 😂 still making money/parts.... Also, how old are you? No offence. But machine your age i wouldn't call old 🤣😊👍

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

Yeah I might have slightly exaggerated 😂 I’m only 24

@SensibleCreeper 9 месяцев назад

Bud, you're still a kid. This title is irrelevant as f.

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

But it got a comment from you 😉

@akramelgol7001 9 месяцев назад

did u have instagram

@gertkristensen6451 5 месяцев назад

1000 times better than ,,,titans boooom booom booom ,, this is so fake booomm

@dnamfg 5 месяцев назад

😂😂😂

@MrBricks148 9 месяцев назад

Great work. The shop i'm at has a mazak SQT 15M-Y from 1993, still pumping out parts like a champ.

@SpeedofCheeseRacing 9 месяцев назад

In almost 40 years of machining, an SH633 was and is my favorite machine. Good video.

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

It really does produce such good quality and very reliable. Thanks for the watch!

@luckgrip252 7 месяцев назад

Mine best so far is Haas VF2 (I am a youngin in trade who's learning all the tips & tricks, and intricacies when it comes to cutting material.) But as experience goes, that might change and I know that some machines would take the lead over VF2

@smh9902 9 месяцев назад

I'm still making money on two Okuma MC4 VAE mills that were made in 1992!

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

Some of them old machines really do hold their own, even these days

@ericung6216 9 месяцев назад

Great work keep the videos coming!

@BMan100 5 месяцев назад

good old edge finder. What was your step over for your end mills when roughing? Full DOC I'm assuming for the most part?

@norandavis856 9 месяцев назад

Next investment: Renishaw probing system. Takes your set ups to the next level and greatly reduces your set up times.

@carlosmariche 8 месяцев назад

Nice job, could you please tell me the model and brand of 3d Scanner? and if it has its own software to pass the mesh to cad? thank you

@JWAM 9 месяцев назад

Excellent video! Subscribed :)

@Julian.Heinrich 9 месяцев назад

Good job; and keep it up 👍

@brendanmmann 9 месяцев назад

I really like your choice of splitting up the roughing OPs. We usually do that as well when we have to remove a lot of metal and it improves the quality of your part and eliminates the need to chase dimensions due to material stress relieving itself. We have 3 SH-630's that are on a pallet pool system. Between the cell controller and having 2 separate load stations, that machine is a beast at productivity. Unfortunately its getting time to phase it out but even after 25 years that machine is still kicking it.

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

Yeah, exactly my thought. Sounds like an awesome setup you got there, I imagine you can crank out tons of parts 😮‍💨

@andreakeymeulen5121 8 месяцев назад

You look so much like Edge Precision! So cool

@scottkramer7431 9 месяцев назад

What an awesome machine. Sure, I'll go for some programming details. What is the part you made?

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

Next video I’m going to deep dive into the technical stuff, look out for it! It’s part of a feeder assembly

@andypughtube 9 месяцев назад

A friend of mine has a CNC machine that is older than _I_ am, and I am 56. It's a Kearney and Trecker from (I think) 1958. It's not running the original controller, he has converted it ti LinuxCNC.

@Exypno 9 месяцев назад

Haven't seen one of those 3D scanners be used for modelling before, what sort of general tolerance can they hit?

@JeffandJake 9 месяцев назад

In the video he says accurate to a few tenths. I imagine if you just plug in that mesh model to CAM you’d get an irregular finish due to the way the model is made.

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

That is correct, which is why you have to reverse engineer it in CAD first

@goldcoasttime 8 месяцев назад

what did your 3d scanner cost

@jamestamu83 9 месяцев назад

Why is coolant used sometimes, and other times not? Interesting video.

@dnamfg 8 месяцев назад

Just for filming purposes!

@_munti 9 месяцев назад

oldest machine i worked on was an Ixion that had a tag that said " Made in West Germany".

@dnamfg 9 месяцев назад

😳

@roberttimby 8 месяцев назад

We bought a SH-50 Mori made in 94 with a Fanuc 16 controller for 7k. It had a bad powermate. It took us a couple months to fix the old girl up. It has a 12k spindle and came with a bunch of tombstones. The girl runs all day 12 hours without a problem holding .0002 through the day. Load and go pretty much. I rather have the old iron than the new stuff. Better made with I can work on it if breaks.

@lucasenerson8986 9 месяцев назад

Awesome video. I loved your explanations and that you showed a mistake at the end. I appreciate it because we all make them. Subscribed and excited for future videos