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Making Simple Tenon Dies / Rounding A Closed Eye 

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@insperatus
@insperatus 5 лет назад
I ordered Glen's guillotine tool and some top tools from him, they're reportedly arriving today - I've very excited! Thanks Glen!
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
I hope the tool works as you hope. Thanks for your support - both by watching and purchasing...
@georgecalcei8068
@georgecalcei8068 5 лет назад
Always thinking outside the box. Another great video that inspires creativity and new uses for tools.
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
Trying to think outside the box but stuff doesn't always go as planned. Comment section is a great help with some ideas. Thanks.
@danielcrawford7315
@danielcrawford7315 5 лет назад
Interesting concept. I hadn't thought about it in that manner. Neat innovation Mr. GLEN. 🙏 blessings your way Crawford out 🧙‍♂️
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
Seemed good in theory. But needs some changes to make to work right. Thanks.
@snowdogarmoury
@snowdogarmoury 5 лет назад
That’s exactly why I ordered the extra set of dies! Totally going to make a similar tenon die now! Thanks glen.
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
With some imagination and enough die stock, a bunch of very useful die sets can be made. I will fool around and make butcher dies next... Thanks for your support.
@heathworsley8347
@heathworsley8347 5 лет назад
Excellent video as usual thank you Glenn I get ideas for my startup in blacksmithing regularly from the content you provide
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
I'm glad you can learn something / get some ideas as I plod along and learn as well. Thanks.
@lenblacksmith8559
@lenblacksmith8559 5 лет назад
Interesting Glen, when you finally work it out will be very helpful.
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
I need to size the die holes better to the stock I'm using and also narrow the dies where they meet. I think those changes would make a big difference. Always something to work on and improve... Thanks.
@grandadz_forge
@grandadz_forge 5 лет назад
I love how you're not afraid to experiment.
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
Well, I need to do something for these video! Oftentimes, I'm at a loss for ideas. Only so many tong videos a guy can make. So that's why I like making videos. I can learn as I go and the comment section often has good suggestions. Thanks.
@grandadz_forge
@grandadz_forge 5 лет назад
@@gstongs I know I'm a minority but there's no such thing as too many Tong videos ha ha
@kensmapleleafretirement
@kensmapleleafretirement 5 лет назад
That was good fun, you are a patient fella. It paid off in the end. Thank you for making these videos...
@s7bfreeman
@s7bfreeman 5 лет назад
Cool idea. I think it would work if the tenon die was thinner, so that you could round off shorter sections of the circle. Or, find a buddy with a milling machine and have him make round tenon dies, lol. Thanks for the cool vids. I always learn a lot.
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
Yes, I believe you're exactly right about the dies needing to be thinner, just at the point where the dies meet. That's my next step.Thanks.
@s7bfreeman
@s7bfreeman 5 лет назад
Awesome. Thanks for the feedback.
@stanervin6108
@stanervin6108 5 лет назад
You could make square hole dies of various sizes by hot forming with hardened square pattern stock. Or better yet, a 1" square lathe tool prehardened stock placed between the red hot dies ina diamond orientation could enable making many sizes up to 1" by varying depth of indentation! 🔷️🔹️
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
Thanks for the good suggestions. I've got a lot to try...
@speedxdreems
@speedxdreems 5 лет назад
likes for showing all you learn we learn... thanks for the shares.
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
Anyone who professes to know all there is about working hot steel is probably not telling the truth. It's a constant learning process. Thanks for your support.
@mattburchett6921
@mattburchett6921 5 лет назад
I can definitely see where you are headed with this idea. It seems to me that the divot in the dye would need to match the circumference of the eyelet.
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
That definitely was one of the problems - the die holes need to match the stock I'm using better. That, along with a couple of other small changes, should make these work better. Thanks.
@gurvinderkau1e5w18
@gurvinderkau1e5w18 5 лет назад
Tenon dies look cool sure will give better results in some other projects.
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
I will adjust these dies some - mainly narrow the dies where they meet. And also size the die holes better to the stock I'm using. Always something to improve... Thanks.
@oneshotme
@oneshotme 5 лет назад
Enjoyed your video and gave it a Thumbs Up
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
Big thanks.
@Banjoandguns
@Banjoandguns 5 лет назад
Make a bottle opener with it. Little bigger hole leave the ragged edges on one side to open the bottle
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
Bottle opener definitely crossed my mind as I was doing this. Good idea. Thanks.
@philipdavies1590
@philipdavies1590 4 года назад
I like your realistic “live and learn” approach, Glen. You commented on your habit of removing swarf with your hand. I keep all steel swarf that hasn’t had coolant and apply it to forge-welding, especially when making up pattern welded billets from small pieces. I see you have magnets, to dampen the anvil’s ring. If I were fortunate to have your anvil’s, Glen, I would set one of the brackets back an inch so that I could have a gap between them occasionally, since I could easily insert a spacer between the angle-iron and the block. Your guillotine is very good and appears to be a single forging, but I imagine you made it yourself?
@markspc1
@markspc1 5 лет назад
Glen GS Tongs according to AISI 1050 Steel is a plain carbon steel containing 0.50 wt% of carbon. The heat treatment temperature is 1550° - 1650° F or when it becomes non-magnetic and it is Oil or Water Quenched. And if you want a Rockwell hardness of 52 you temper it at 400° F. I guess what you have done by heating it to "sunset red" and water quenching that only the outer skin has hardened. For 1050 steel alloy the phase transformation occurs at 1330° F (Austenite) and it is recommend that you bring it to 1650° F and bellow that you are still at the ferrite-cementite phase. Metallurgy is not rocket science but it is interesting as well.
@aktrapper6126
@aktrapper6126 5 лет назад
Use a small drill then use a die grinder with a round burr and shape the dies with the radius you want.
@andrewostrelczuk406
@andrewostrelczuk406 5 лет назад
AKTrapper This is exactly what I have done, I was making a replacement strap for securing a rod for an actuator to a piece of machinery, so first I used 1-1/4” x 2-1/2” long square stock. Then I used a mill drill for my proper size 1/2” hole, 3/4” wide 1/8” thick flat steel is what I had on hand to make the guide for the rod.(3/8” approximately 10-12 mm) then cut through it with a 1/16th inch cut off wheel. Back to the Mill / Drill, where I centered the slot for the strap and milled out a relief for it to fit in. I also milled off the excess to fit it into my 1” Hardy hole. I used successively larger diameter rods to pound the strap into the hollow till it was done the matted piece as a top mandrel to drive them down. I’ve repurposed it for several other projects and it’s still working after softening the edges from the sharp edges left after milling it has done something very close to what GS has been doing.
@xIronPigx
@xIronPigx 5 лет назад
Keep the vids coming Glen!!!
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
I'll do my best. Thanks.
@railfan439
@railfan439 5 лет назад
Glen: Taper the long side of the dies. Right now you are putting a square peg in a round hole. Jon
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
I believe you hit the nail on the head. I will narrow the dies where they meet and also ease the edges of the half rounds some. I think these changes will make a big difference. Thanks.
@JF-fx2qv
@JF-fx2qv 5 лет назад
Did you want a more square shape to the over all eye? I can see a completed different die needed for keeping the over all shape round with rounded edges. Maybe even two dies to complete the desired outcome.
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
I originally wanted the eye to be round in addition to the loop that forms the eye being round. But that isn't possible with these dies as is. The comment section has given me some good ideas. Always something to improve... Thanks.
@hannemannironworks1651
@hannemannironworks1651 5 лет назад
Very interesting idea good to know!
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
Projects like this always teach me something new; give me ideas how to improve... Thanks for watching.
@davidhillman7004
@davidhillman7004 5 лет назад
Learned something new thank you
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
Me too - I learned this method needs improving! Always learning... Thanks.
@Curtislow2
@Curtislow2 5 лет назад
Try using a UNI-Bit to drill holes in die. May give you the tapered hole your looking for.
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
I never though of that. Thanks for the suggestion.
@larryking606
@larryking606 5 лет назад
Good Evening , Glen Great information ! That gives me some other ideas ! Take Care and Be Safe ! Keep Hammering !
@ironhead65
@ironhead65 5 лет назад
Would milling it using a rotating table help? That would allow you to have an arc. If you have a few months (I just moved and my mill is in transit across the Pacific), I'd be willing to work with you on it.
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
I'm not exactly sure but having access to a mill couldn't hurt. But this is not something I frequently need to do/make. Thanks.
@redlionforge9173
@redlionforge9173 5 лет назад
You need to make your holes more oval. It will prevent the pinched steel.
@dennisobrien3618
@dennisobrien3618 5 лет назад
I was going to comment that he should grind off the sharp corners of the die. I've also seen people put a sacrificial shim between the two halves when drilling them (the end result being the holes are more oval).
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
A very good idea. And I think I also need to make the dies more narrow at the point of contact. Lots to learn and do... Thanks.
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
Comment section is always full of helpful ideas like yours. Thanks.
@josephacker3328
@josephacker3328 5 лет назад
Now that you are mostly round in cross section, could you round out the square on a small cone or bick? If you used a piece of chain as a die to make your die would you have the round cross section and the curve you are looking for?
@PietroMaker
@PietroMaker 5 лет назад
Hello Sir , in from Italy and follow you ti some time, you are cool artisan. 😁👍
@kensmapleleafretirement
@kensmapleleafretirement 4 года назад
If the thickness of the die was halved it might go around the corner better, maybe. Thank You for the idea....
@ericsprado4631
@ericsprado4631 4 года назад
I see the tip of an anvil bick in background.. after hole is large enough to slip over the horn tip the eye can be expanded to desired size in one heat...No???? Love your videos..
@kensmapleleafretirement
@kensmapleleafretirement 5 лет назад
Maybe if the die were thinner and had rounded corners, looks something, you likely covered somewhere else. Just thinking out loud...
@الاشكيفالاشكيف-ل2ز
Good evening how can I buy this tool I mean the big anvil with the rest of the pieces and thank you
@cameronyoung2004
@cameronyoung2004 5 лет назад
What type of anvil is that its pretty nice
@admilsonalmondes5765
@admilsonalmondes5765 5 лет назад
Muito bom louco ! 🖒
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
Thanks for watching.
@admilsonalmondes5765
@admilsonalmondes5765 5 лет назад
@@gstongs You're welcome , It's a pleasure to see your videos, brother !
@СвободныйЧеловек-т2п
👍👍
@s7bfreeman
@s7bfreeman 5 лет назад
Свободный Человек I like your user name, though my last name (Freeman) is easier for me to spell.
@James.1_2-3
@James.1_2-3 5 лет назад
I’d like a custom made item for my work. I apologize for the way I talked down to your hook last video
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
I appreciate you being humble but there's no problem at all. I took your comment as more funny than anything else. I'm not sure I can make whatever you want - just very busy with various things of late. Thanks.
@tabletom5583
@tabletom5583 5 лет назад
brilliant!!!!!
@ademdogan7213
@ademdogan7213 5 лет назад
Au lieu que ce soit rond c'est carré c'est pas mal j'aime bien.
@gstongs
@gstongs 5 лет назад
Although this didn't go as planned, I like the end result. I will make some changes and have another try. Thanks.
@edvaldoeloi4756
@edvaldoeloi4756 4 года назад
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