Making the LOCRIAN scale sound GOOD? (ft. Paul Davids, Ben Levin, Nahre Sol and Samurai Guitarist) 

You were first before the video was public cheater :P

Yo that better not be Mr Samuel G-man putting himself down

Lol. That’s cheating man. But yeah, you’re right, it must be nice sitting back in the quiet silence of pre-post contemplation of firstness. (Although, I should say, I once heard a piece of wisdom from a legit samurai that ‘the source of all low self esteem is comparison of self to others. No judgments - Only observation - Of self and others.’ Just thought I’d share. PS: you were great.)

You may not realize it, but I feel like your piece is something that Agent Orange would play as an interlude. You really made it seem like something natural and normal.

I want a full version of yours

Ben is certified one level more chaotic than Tantacrul lol

@@guiAstorDunc I checked out his channel in the past thanks to David Bruce's 5 Composers 1 Theme videos. After that, I was never the same again.

DADDY MAYO

Lollll

Oh my god that's a FANTASTIC analogy! Wow

😦 wow.

I really, REALLY like this analogy! Thank you!

THIS! It's that way not just in the Locrian mode but also with any discordant use of diminished chords in general. I think that's why I've always connected to the really nasty side of mathcore (like, the screamo and hardcore side of things). Bands like Fear Before The March of Flames, Botch, The Chariot, and Converge know how to make you feel enclosed in that unstable tonality. To me, the diminished one chord still sounds like a resolution, probably because I've exposed myself to it so much that I've grown culturally acclimated to it, but it's a different kind of "home chord." If your one chord in other modes feels like a home, the home in Locrian is like a rusty cage or dark basement as opposed to a nice house. It's where you resolve to if you want your mood to reflect fear, anxiety, despair, anger, or being trapped in an emotional cage where nothing eases your doubt. It's a resolution similar to a major 7 sharp 5. I know that's a little off since the one chord in Locrian uses a minor third but I get the same "vibe" from it. It's that kinda home base.

.... you nailed it. The perfect explanation.

3 years after the fact and I still listen to her piece. It's such an incredibly moving passage of music. I'm not certain Nahre even realizes how brilliant and perfect the song is both as a challenge and as a standalone piece of music! I absolutely love it.

@@StephenChapmanliterally same

@@StephenChapman same

@@StephenChapman same

I imagine it's like normal surf rock but for monsters. I had a distinct picture of Dracula living in a beach resort rather than a castle.

@@duskmare0000 It could totally be the Creature from the Black Lagoon's theme song. Or...what was that one MST3K movie? (looks it up) "The Horror of Party Beach". Would totally work for those monsters.

It certainly gives the feeling of a monster doing surfing, but in a way that themes around the monster they are and is still menacing. The vampire surfs on brains and gets close to a person as if they were to suck that person’s blood. The skeleton crashes and falls apart on his board made of bones but when the wake comes in he is reformed. The voodoo person has put people under his spell and the people are his board, but when the surfing is done the spell is undone and the people are unharmed.

@@duskmare0000 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3-OyMU5I1uA.html

I read this as “when you’re happy out of sp**r**ite” and it actually took me a second to read it correctly

Yo now that I'm listening to it "locrian hollow knight ost" is the literal best way to have defined that wtf lol They were all so good tho, I would not have expected such a weird sounding scale to be used so well

You mean "Pop Country"

There’s definitely a quality to Nahre’s song that sounds like Christopher Larkin’s work but it almost sounds more like something from Zelda, or Scarlet Forest from deltarune. I love the more minimalist approach to that one.

how about Locrian rubbish?

@@marcosaraujo3555 kkk

xd

@@mangekyo_sharingan_ xd

XDXD that is TOO FUNNY :D

Lmao

​@@gniewomircioek6845 xd

reminded me of coraline's ost

Right!? Nahre took it to deep mood territory. Melancholy dreamy jazzy float is a particularly targeted and skilled theme to wield correctly. All were great, the industrial has my heart... But hers made me question if I was actually so affected like wtf it can do that? "Oh. Oh my...." Showed how far it could go. She gets my blue ribbon hands down.

is it just me or it reminds me of snowdin town from undertale?

As that went on, that piano piece became ridiculously beautiful. That's a hit.

At first I thought that it wouldn't be very good, but then... omg...

Your heavy stuff is awesome man

Hi Ben ☁🌲

❤️

Ben!! Was the dreamy section microtonal??

Yeah man. That’s some dark sh!t!!

The production on your track was so good!

"trying to be a guitar" hahahahahahha

Besides for the always great music... the visuals on your segment... that editing... mmmm. Great stuff!!

You fucking killed it dude

Please tell me your track is available to buy or stream. I need it. Take my money

i dont get it

@@ljvanb1706 You get the major scale

@@ljvanb1706 Haha i DID get it, I'm NOT the stoopid bass player Glenn Fricker always SAYS I am, not not NOT ;( In ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7mKCFFIvlNA.html - He's REPLACING us - with ROBOTS !

I raise all 5 of those except the 3 and 7.

@@petegaslondon Because you were the bot the whole time

Love how you're always in Adam's comments section, so random

Ey Omicron

"Interesting" like sniffing glue

@@Xen0vox no randomness in consistency

@@ernestogarcia3193 repetition legitimizes

LOL

honestly lol side note im so fuckin tired of lo fi hiphop/quintuplet swing

Ooh burn

Bruh, this is infuriatingly accurate xD

more people than I thought are seeing this; just want to clarify I ❤️Adam and his lo-fi hip hop

Debussy was one of the few composers who actually used Locrian *relatively* extensively in his pieces (least when compared to virtually everyone else). Nahre herself though is an excellent composer and incredibly talented

it sounds as if it were straight out of Genshin Impact music

It feels familiar oddly. Im getting elements of minimalism mixed with Australian composers like Carl Vine, Ross Edward's piano sonatas. I dig it.

​@@mymo_in_Bbi would have Said Legend of Zelda breath of the wild 😅

@@MegaFrozenMan I'm not too familiar with that soundtrack, only with a few tracks

And he really Neely'd it

I had to rewind that line because I thought I'd misheard it. I chuckled pretty hard.

I nearly choked on my beer when he said that

I almost spewed my beer on that line!

It was the most Adam Neely thing ever 🤣

@@Ildskalli tbf I was waiting for the locrian licc

@@SantaCarlaDrums the world is not ready for the locrian licc

Yeah mechanical flesh and existentialist dread

That shit opened my mind :p

@chaintech it opinions are subjective and you can think what you want about his peace but you didn't have to be a prick. He wasn't covering up the dissonance his peice was just different there are styles of music similar I'm sure. On top of that I'm sure he's More than qualified to make the peice considering that's his job I'd like to see you try. Long story short if you don't like it don't be an arse. there's a fine line between being a critic and being a fuckwit

@chaintech it you know nothing about proper fx or sound design & it's apparent

its like Noise music

@chaintech it You will have a heart attack if you listen to clowncore

or just surf rock

It’s called trash metal

Its called black metal nigga

I am sofa king we todd ed

Bumper music for the TV series, "Private Eye Surfer."

also his piece was pure beauty in insanity,right ? his creativity always blows my mind.

I love how he can say shit like that with a completely straight face

I tried looking this up and it's not a real thing. Disappointed. But there is a twitter account @DaddyMayonnaise

I didn't know who this guy was before this video and now i want to be in his friend group

I loved the comparison to warheads hahaha

What else could it be ? 😂

not again..

He's becoming a meme of himself, should we hold an intervention for him?

@@samuelsmith6281 yes!!!!

@@cnonymous n o

I DIDN'T LISTEN TO YOUR COMPOSITION BUT I'M SURE IT WAS COOL AND GOOD OK BYE

@@amaice ok lol

I got chills and i havent even watch the video yet

your bit was really cool!!

I thought your piece was incredible it had some Just Melody era Nils Frahm sounding chords in it. Great Job!

It's on her channel: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8HpVobJs1FQ.html

Sounds straight out of Zelda BotW

lmao

Haha great comment 😂😂

You know they will

Now that's a kind of trolling, but in God's mode.

daddy mayo is the hero we all fear

*throws jar of mayonnaise at felon*

He knows mayonnaise IS an instrument.

poor josh

can confirm. he also has a shawn crowder locked in the other closet

@@calebfudrums how many closets does he have

I’m seeing a very mature, adult focuse animation, like Red Turtle.

haha temp tracks go brrr

Wow I definitely agree. That was phenomenal.

I agree, I can totally picture her piece as part of a soundtrack for a movie introducing a character whose life is OK, but has some quarky snags.

It does sound like a piece from a Studio Ghibli movie.

honestly i hate major the most from how overly saccharine and emotionless it usually sounds. even locrian i prefer over it

Please listen to this piece( purely locrian) and share your thoughts. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RkIK4JRFb7w.html

I have a special affinity for Phrygian and Phrygian dominant. I'm a sucker for flamenco.

In fact with Phrygian, if you take Eb Phrygian, and make tonic D natural, you end up with something not quite Locrian or Phrygian. I like calling Phrygian Diminished.

My favorite modes are Minor, Harmonic Minor and Dorian

Like in David Bruce's video where everyone had to write music using only 3 notes, and David used every trick in his Profeesional Classical Composer™ toolbox to make something that _almost_ sounded sophisticated. Meanwhile, Ben Levin just leaned into the frustrated monotony and made something wonderfully, fittingly grating.

@@A.F.Whitepigeon That was the one which had "Frustrated Beethoven" or something of the sort as an instruction too wasn't it

that dirty sax solo, still playing it in my head from time to time

That is so oddly specific but also spot-on

Fin

chills literally

It snatches you away to somewhere else, by the roots. You have no say.

As a french, I can confirm. This happens everyday, and this is the music you hear when it does.

Having watched Levin for a while, his composition was exactly on brand

@@Khifler the accuracy of both these comments 🤣💀

oh, he does. he's exactly the kind of experimental, strange dude.

Ben's that kinda guy

one would think Trent Reznor

This comment made crack me up - just like the first time I heard Sammy saying it

19:20 very academic response 😌🤣

Yeah, Nahre was more honest at using the half-diminished as home.

Lmao

so true

Much better than any of the orange songs...

Ben makes it very clear how he feels about the locrian scale in his track.

Swallowing the Rabbit Whole moment for sure. lol

I thought it was just me hahaha

@@samuelsmith6281 the animation literally has a person trapped in a cage.

So... the default windows wallpaper?

I get greens and yellows maybe oranges

Muted blues and greens and browns through a murky lake. Yes.

i get oranges and reds, like western sunset colors

I would also like to listen to your locrian improvisation.👍

Yes, I enjoyed it too a lot!

I think this means you have to do one too

@@jerrodshack7610 they got her on the Ugly Lydian one and it’s so much more than you could ever have expected

Please listen to this piece( purely locrian) and share your thoughts. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RkIK4JRFb7w.html

I just adore Ben. lols

Yeah, I almost spat out my coffee when he said that. "Daddy Mayonnaise" sounds so wrong! lol

Daddy Mayonnaise sounds like the Superhero Costume Mitt Romney wears over his temple garments ...

WOW I thought of that too!!

It sounds like a very calm version of the Guardian theme

I thought the exact same thing

*this*

Perfect description

it sounded like eterna forest from diamond and pearl

Most of her current compositions sound like this. She has evolved though. She went from sounding like Mr. Rogers to sounding like Breath of the Wild.

I thought that was hilarious too 😂

you noticed that too ! hahaha !

@@FaustinaFalcon8 🤣🤣

@@coryrad9575 😂🤣

That was so funny! Raise the second, the.......

Yeah, his animation on "drunk" was mesmerising

Sammy G is so underrated. he’s my favorite youtuber for sure lol

Those are planar headphones (I'm not sure the model, maybe Audeze LCD-2), pretty expensive, but many people swear by their sound. Sadly, I've never tried them myself.

They’re the audeze lcd-x, I have the same ones and and they weigh as heavy as they look!

I believe they are Hifiman brand (Sundaras, maybe?). Really good sounding cans, I own a pair and highly recommend them.

@@AMitrovic1 they’re definitely audeze lcd-x, I have the same ones

@@alyxgonzales no, thanks

I feel like that also applies to microtonal music

@@treehann yeah

...😆, I thought that was hilarious! Yeah, I guess I'm a long way into the ...oh, I like this, phase...👍

ha-ha, Ikr? XD

Bruhh what are talking about?👀 cause reading this made me think about what my gf did to me in my room

YES

Felt alot like Undertale to me

honestly I didn't feel it like locrian, I noticed that maybe she was playing with the center she used E Locrian but due to the repetition of C sounds like a Cmaj

Felt like Hollow Knight to me, tbh.

I was super thinking that too

Wow you nailed those descriptions. Damn

Couldn't have said it any better

me: III VI II sounds nice in locrian ;-)

Brilliant

@@jmpsthrufyre is it though? : P (sorry just nitpicking) coz' this is more like an exhibition than competition. They are clearly all winners.

...Fukui-san... yesss?....

Yes, I’ll probably agree on that!

Id played 0-3-5

This was Surf Rock with switchblades, leather jackets, and a guy with spikey bleached hair smoking a spliff...

Alan Barnett The Gorch would listen to this music ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--4ZkmgU32GU.html

Sammy G absolutely murdered it! In the best way possible (in case anyone thinks I’m hating)

Now I really want to hear some locrian pop-country!

I was JUST thinking that. Cuz I've used Locrian a lot. Fuck, I've used crazier scales... but if they did metal, it would probably be cheating.

Honestly if you add distortion to the surf rock one and combine it with Ben Levin's, you'd get some pretty cool industrial metal

Yeh a low B on an 8 string would have been cool, could have mixed in some A harmonic minor flavours and gone all proggy/epic.

my first thoughts especially once i was hearing the surf rock was that this would sound completely in place in some really distorted heavy metal stuff. When ben's piece broke into the lighter part I was hoping it would go even deeper and throw in some distorted guitar... but what he did was still beautiful

While using the b5 and the b2 is really common in metal, you rarely have pure Locrian riffs. A lot of the time, those riffs include some chromaticism, and they also use the perfect 5th scale degree that makes the tonic a lot more stable. So, metal does take advantage of the "dark" sounding b2 and b5, but it rarely does that without including the perfect 5th or the major 2nd.

Double harmonic major and locrian don't have many notes in common though. It sounds familiar in this genre because it's like a blues scale without the 5th. The b5 serves the same function, it wants to resolve to the p4.

@@voidboi95 You also get a major seventh on the tonic with double harmonic major, which is quite a difference

Ty

Way to go Champ!!

Thanks! :)

She should compose&perform a whole album with one song dedicated to each mode.

I agree!!

Yeah she's a great musician, have you heard Alice in Wonderland by her?

Absolutelyyy. She will be a household name composer for many.

@dangelobenjamin She will be! But she needs to evolve more. When I first heard her jamming on Sound Field (PBS), she sounded like Mr. Rogers. However, ever since a year or so ago, she started composing like, and still composes like, Link is fighting a guardian in Breath of the Wild.

PLEASEEEEE

Yaaaass! Pls make this happen :)

Yeah props to him for making Locrian sound "pretty" not just good.

One thing I feared going into this video is actually liking the tracks they made and then realizing most of them wouldn't be available to listen to on their own, at least not for a while.