MALAYSIA OR INDONESIA?? 🇲🇾🇮🇩 

Me me me

Sure, but make sure faizal Tahir is not married or something😂

@@sanir6 ko pikat Abg dia dulu bro

Mark, Azim..I am half British and half Portuguese..so thats alrighty correct? 😁😁

@@sanir6 wow, that's great

Hahahah I am agreeing to you

😂😂😂😂

6 years in Malaysia.

Sound malaysian innit?😆 .

No it isn't

Well Malaya existed a few years before Malaysia.

Singapore now but it is belongs to Malaysia until 1965. It is a Malay land, infact, stole by Chiness.

@@zulkufliaziz104 Sir, to begin with Singapore was part of the Johore kingdom until the Sultan of Johore who resided at Telok Blangah in Singapore signed a treaty with the British govt to allow Singapore as a trading post for the British and naturally lost the status of governing Singapore. Thereafter, the British transformed Singapore to a thriving port attracting fleets of ships of diversed nations to trade here. Lets look into the past history to dig up the details.

Malayan people didn't travelled or migration to nusantara. Nusantara people did, because they do not want malaya peninsula goes to india china british people.

:D

He or she?

Why not? U should open minded...no problem with that man.

@@genoneone8832 maybe you dont have problem with it, and I personally have no problem with it.... its just ensuring the harmony of this channel

@@purnamamerindu8166 yeah man

Nothing happens.

Yeah Thailand never had an issues about us Malaysian making our own version of tomyam or did commercial as one of our food but indeed tomyam still from Thailand but they never had a problem with it, no single fxxking Thais ever had complaint about it, same goes to kerabu mangga or kerabu stuff2, they don't even give a dxmn sh3t about it.. Latok as Borneo food but Philippines also have it and nobody give a fxxk bout it claiming it which country's food it is.. Ambuyat also part of Borneo culture and I tell ya, Brunei never had any problems with it when Sarawakian or Sabahan claiming that's their foods cause they know we shared the culture together and they never mocking on it and fun fact, ambuyat was created by Malay Brunei, and yeah still don't have an issues for claiming which country's food it is, that's mean Malaysia can claim it and Brunei can claim it either... Same goes to Singaporean as we know Singapore was part of Malaysia a long times ago ( Not claiming Singapore as Malaysia, okey ah Singaporean ) But the food over there just same as Malaysia, they have nasi lemak, kuey tiaw and even satay, I had listen from this one white guy saying that Nasi Lemak is so delicious and then he said, the best food of Singapore and my reaction was like "okay, then" like I was never fight with him over the fxxking food, and I appreciated for his opinion even tho we know Nasi Lemak was officially from the Malays, but I understand that's in Singapore also have Malay so yeah why we have to fight for each other just for the foods? What I mean is we are all just from same races/culture/continent that's is Nusantara ( I know some stup1d indonesian will claim Nusantara is just for Indonesia not for Malaysia or what ) but what I mean is we are in the same archipelago which is Malay archipelago ( Nusantara : for local name ) and fun fact Malay archipelago is the largest archipelago in the worlds, so it is doesn't matter why our foods/culture/races/religions/clothes/languages have a similarity because we are people of Malay Archipelago/Nusantara, and let's end this war of claiming please

Why is this so true

Indonesian will claim that malaysian claim that everything is from malaysia. Malaysian will fight back said that we not claim anything, its just all mix up all the way before colonial era..and indonesian will fight until malaysian surrender. it will goess all the way back to jurassic world era 😅😅🤣🤣 Maybe we need US/England to drop atomic bombs ... one in KL and another in Jakarta then only the war about rendang and laksa will end 🤣🤣

thank you!!

Rendang bukan makanan melayu tapi minang. Laksa bukan makanan minang tapi melayu. Saling respect disini bro tak saling claim

@@adijanuardea1582 maaf Sila baca Dan selami setiap kata serta memahami apa yang dibicarakan, tidak menentukan Hak siapa, Cuba buka minda serta fikiran bernas , perlu positif tiada apa yang diklemkan di sini....jika gagal mengerti, mohon tanyakan Dari yang jauh lebih arif.semoga ini agar menjadikan penerangan khas buat mereka yang kabur mata hatinya....

@@ilovecake1980 Lo yang harus selami Malaysia dan Indonesia belum ada, semua makanan itu sudah ada. Di minang tidak ada satay ayam / kambing atau laksa Karena orang minang respect itu bukan makanan orang minang. Begitu juga di jawa tidak ada laksa atau rendang. Begitu juga di melayu tak ada rendang atau satay Sehingga di sini clear tak ada klaim. Saling respect Kerajaan kalian sering kali buat kami marah. Rendang laksa satay pernah di ajukan ke unesco sebagai makanan orang melayu malaysia. Baru baru ini unesco sebut songket resmi milik malaysia. Semua orang tahu songket adalah asal sumatera sejak sriwijaya. Paham?

@@adijanuardea1582 sebenarnya, kamu tak faham bahasa melayu ni. Aku bicara lain tidak ada Unsur klem apa2, nah tiba aku jadi bahan dek kerana kerajaan aku? Langsung terus ke sana ...mengapa aku mangsanya? Jangan politikan isu ini... Aku tak sukakan politik, aku orang biasa sahaja tiada kuasa apa apa....pertama Kali aku ajukan isu tersebut tanpa klem Hak sesiapa. Tapi di katakana aku berbahas Hak klem? Aneh....orang indo pantas tercubit Dan terasa ya...walaupun tak pernah aku klem apa2 ...nah terus jadi isu hangat? Aduh...mungkin kamu keliru isu aku ajukan....lalu keluarkan kata " perlu hormat Dan usah klem?" Apakah aku Masih di bangkh sekolah? Rendah kah ilmu kami ini di Malaysia?

@@ilovecake1980 Lo yang tak paham bahasa melayu Sekali lagi gw tulis : Rendang itu bukan makanan asal melayu jawa banjar bugis Indonesia melaysia tetapi MINANG. Seperti juga satay bukan makanan melayu minang bugis banjar Indonesia malaysia tetapi JAWA seperti juga laksa bukan makanan minang bugis jawa banjar Indonesia malaysia tetapi MELAYU. Paham ? Permulaan dari masalah ini karena adanya klaim kerajaan malaysia yang mendaftarkan ke unesco karena merasa minang jawa melayu adalah previllage malaysia. Hal ini men trigger pemerintah kami untuk klaim juga di unesco. Klaim antar negara ini juga merembet ke rakyat masing masing. Paham?

Padang or minang people migration to n9 perak Perak or n9 people didn't migration to padang. So rendang original from padang. Its also for sate kajang from javanese diaspora , laksa penang from palembang diaspora, etc Simple

rendang from Minangkabau Indonesia Orang Malaysian memang punya variasi sendiri tapi itu tak mengubah dari mana asal rendang berasal

@@Robinhood-fl2gp benar, sbg contoh pizza asal Italia, walaupun namanya pizza indo atau pizza us tetap saja asalnya dari Italia, begitupun rendang. Orang2 harus mulai mengakui hal ini

Aku orang minang sini lah ku pecah kau punya kepala.. Semua mau di curi...

hes in malaysia hahaahahah

oh god hahaahaahah

Rendang from minangkabau sumatera indonesia

Alhamdulillah bang selamanya...💕

WE ARE NOT SERUMPUN AT ALL. tidak semua orang Indonesia berumpun melayu. So stop using that word. It's cringe

@@agnostikisbetter1893 Betul banget, istilah serumpun itu sebenarnya alat politik malasia untuk bisa mencaplok budaya2 yang ada di Indo, tau lah negara tetangga kang claim 😅

@@user-hl9xx2ry8d Kalo sumatera & Kalimatan gua setuju kalo serumpun dgn Malaysia tapi Jawa Sulawesi Maluku Bali Papua dll Gua Tidak setuju karna kita bukan Melayu

@@20_muhammadbagasramadhani24 Sumatra juga bukan semua Melayu, di Sumatra ada suku Batak, salah satu terbesar yang ada di Indo, ada juga suku Nias, suku Mentawai di Sumatra barat, Karo, Pakpak, Angola dan mereka bukan Melayu. Kalau di Kalimantan suku aslinya itu orang Dayak dan mereka juga bukan Melayu. Makanya suka aneh claim sepihak dari orang Malay yang mengatakan serumpun 😅

Minang in indonesia didn't clasification as malay. Rendang original from minang people Laksa original from malay people Minang didn't have laksa so palembang didn't have rendang. Its simple.

Nope, minang ethnic is different from malay ethnic. Even my friend who is from Kelantan said that negeri sembilan has weird local language because their ancestors came from the original land of minang people which is in Sumatra. If you mentioned "in indo there are many ethnics", then it's true that minang and malay have their own unique differences because we Indonesia are separated into many islands.

I didnt surprised that Indonesians didn't know Minang is ethnically Malay. That's true Indonesia might not classify Minang as Malay, but that just happened quite recently. Cuisine is not a solid criteria to define an ethnic. Trust me, most of the time, categorization in Indonesia definition in mostly every aspect in this world can't be taken as fact, because there's always inclusion of political interests. That's not their people fault, of course. But I think it's time to professionally follow scientific explanation.

@@adijanuardea1582 never heard of laksa minang. Where did you get those? 🤔 And by the way, laksa is Malaysian, not Malay's. It's fusion. But rendang is Malay's. 😘

@@user-vt4np1xo3r oh really? What about javanese? Balinese? Are they also malay? Because fyi, javanese in Malaysia are considered as malay. I've lived for 2 years in Malaysia, and my malaysian friends who have travelled or studied in Indonesia will understand that ethnicity can be different if you can't communicate to each other. Local languages it's not about dialect. If you find Spanish & French words has similarities, doesn't mean they're one ethnicity.

hahahahaahah

Your rendang in perak is from minang diaspora. Same as sate kajang from javanese diaspora.

Your rendang from minang diaspora. There is no malay archipelago cause its british name. Its nusantara

Just so you know, not all Indonesians understand bahasa, there are still many people in rural areas or elderly people use their local languages. Every Malaysian who experienced traveling in Indonesia and meet locals probably aware about the local languages that I'm pretty sure that the Malaysian won't understand a bit. In Malaysia, the citizens will be categorized as "bangsa melayu, bangsa cina, bangsa india". In Indonesia, we normally don't catagorize the citizens based on their ethnicities, even though we're aware that we have various ethnicities. We may know others identified as orang jawa, batak, sunda, tionghoa, etc. Indonesia has the specific terms of identity that probably different from Malaysia, like "bangsa" for nation, "ras" for race, and "suku/etnis" for ethnicity. For example if Malaysians say "bangsa cina" for Malaysian Chinese, we Indonesians say "etnis tionghoa" Indonesian Chinese. As far as I know, Malaysia even has schools for each major bangsa (sekolah kebangsaan). In Indonesia, usually the Chinese kids goes to catholic school.

Indonesia pun punya fitza Tek pedduli lah walau itali punya Pokok nya buat di indonesia ya fitza indonesia

@@garudapancasila3638 So maknanya bukan hanya Indonesia yg punya kan. Malaysia pun sudah berzaman ada. Kami punya rendang pelbagai turun temurun, bukan hanya rendang minang saja seperti di Indonesia.

@@adijanuardea1582 That means you only have one type of rendang while we have vast majority of it. Before British came there is the Malay Archipelago according to history. The Malays are free to move about the Archipelago without using a passport as there is no distinct country at that time.

If my memories serve me right.Indonesia is the country with most island in the world...Do correct me if im wrong..

@@DonDon-iz8zc 🧢

Yes. Minangkabau people are in both countries Malaysia and Indonesia.

we can never argue sis bcs they never accept the fact😂 too obsessed with their culture. as if malaysian culture exist in another country, we will probably proud bcs we know that means its going international😂

Minangkabau itu masuk wilayah mana? Orang minang memang ada di mana²,tpi tanah minangkabau ya di sumatera indonesia.jdi rendang itu milik minangkabau indonesia

Rendang Tu milk org minang!!!!kedua2 Negara pn Ada org minang!!!APA Lepas ni Indonesia claim bakso pla...bakso asal Dr tiongkok..... kedua Negara pn Ada bakso...makanan tk Der sempadan pn!!!Tiongkok sdiri tk pernah klaim makanan asal mna pn!!!Hya bocah aja klaim es krim nya direbut org!!!

@@longtiger7404 kenapa x claim orang melayu pun dari Indonesia gak? Bukan kat riau Indonesia pun ada orang melayu ka? Hadeh nk racist go away main jauh²

Wkwkwk

Salah Bro Kita Juga Ngerti kali Bahasa Melayu Tapi Yg Melayu Baku, Tapi Lo Mungkin Ngak Paham Bhs Ibu Kita😅

@@20_muhammadbagasramadhani24 hmm betul jugak yahh

Betul, kita cuba untuk memahami bahasa mereka. Tak salah belajar bahasa kan 👍

@@20_muhammadbagasramadhani24 slang bahasa melayu malaysia susah nak faham kot..saya lihat video orang melayu di indonesia mmg banyak beza bunyinya..

Orang malay diam. Gak ada yang complain?

haha "THAT" country is so , idk what to say. its ruins our harmony

@@A.ALIFFFF is important for Indonesian but maybe not to u, cause it's not your business in the first place, i PITY you for having no culture to relate to 🤭

@@user-hl9xx2ry8d indonesian or suku aja ? ini bahas soal makanan itu dari suku mana , yah dari suku minang lah , dimanapun minang itu yah adat nya dibawa. yg harus claim rendang harusnya suku bukan seluruh warga indonesia yg resepinya aja belum tentu tau . niat cuman mau provoke kebencian .

@@user-hl9xx2ry8d lu bisa bilang di indonesia bukan smua melayu jadi bukan smua serumpun ama malaysia , tapi kok makanan suku dibawa negara kan tolol. yah makanan suku yah suku yg punya , dimana pun suku itu ada udah tentu adatnya juga dibawa . emang kan mereka punya leluhur yg bikin rendang , bahan rendang itu sendiri ada campuran rempah pelbagai negara . elu jangan pikiran sempit , seperti batik ,yah coraknya dinamakan batik tapi designernya kan bebas ,kalo leluhur pencipta rumah ngeclaim rumah mu miliknya gimana ? lu muter lagi cerita ya gak ? hidup ini bervariant cuy , kalo pengen hidup sendiri , tinggal aja di bulan sono. sekarang gua mau nanya , siapa yg klaim di unesco bahwa rendang berasal dari malaysia ?

confuse 😭 ni backup sebelah mana

Minang is never under johor riau goverment. Rendang is from minang people. Laksa is from malay people. We never claim in here Simple

Learn the history at your school again

@@FA-xs9rh Please do read history . JOHOR empire rule the provice of Padang and Minangkabau almost for 200 years before the Dutch rules Sumatra . RENDANG was invented during the Johor empire with herbs and spices obtained from Indian & turkish traders in Malacca. The dutch rules Sumatera ffor more than 200 year. If nor the Johor empire , then the Dutch may also claim the rendang. Indonesia have NO right to claim rendang is from Indonesia. 😇 BTW , the minang and padang people are also RUMPUN MELAYU . So ORANG MELAYU can claim for rendang. Obviously NOT orang Jawa or Sunda 😄 CLAIMING EVERYTHING FROM INDONESIA IS TYPICAL Javanese mentality. Even kicap manis and tauhu which is obviously from CHINA are claimed as Javanese traditional food 😗😘

@@amiryazidali7659 hahahaha even more stupid when you say Minang is part of Johor Riau, I, as a native Minang, have never been part of Johor Malay, you go to school only to twist historical facts, your ability is great at that, Rendang is a culinary original from Minangkabau, West Sumatra. The Minang people call this dish "randang". The word originates from marandang, which means cooking coconut milk until it dries slowly. Rendang needs to be cooked for a long time until the sauce is dry. In historical records, rendang food has been present in every Minangkabau traditional ceremony that has been going on for centuries. According to a written record of the 19th century, it is stated that rendang appeared in the 16th century. At that time, Minang people like to travel to the Straits of Malacca and Singapore. Travel via waterways and take up to a month or more. Because there is no place for ships to stop, the nomads prepare durable food, namely rendang. There From the Kingdom Period to the Dutch Era Other records also mention that rendang has existed since the time of the Pagaruyung Kingdom, to be precise during the time of King Adityawarman (1347-1375 AD). However, the meat used at that time was from buffalo. Meanwhile, when viewed from its shape, rendang is also thought to be a change from curry, a typical Indian food. This is associated with the arrival of traders from Gujarat, India who existed since the 14th century. Gujarati traders came with Indian spices. Therefore, rendang is considered part of the advanced process of a drier curry. Then the existence of rendang was also recorded in a written record by a Dutchman named Colonel Stuers in 1827. In his notes, Stuers did not specifically call it rendang, but he mentioned a food that was blackened and burned. These characteristics certainly match the characteristics of rendang, which is cooked dry and dark in color. Found in Other Countries Until now, many rendang can be found in other countries including Malaysia. However, if you trace the existing historical records, its origins still originate from Indonesia. it has nothing to do with javanese, sundanese and chinese, it seems that you are narrow-minded and evil-minded, and that is your quality So, don't be stupid and stubborn Malaysia is a nation of immigrants! just look at the people from negri 9 who came from the land of minang

@@FA-xs9rh Baca lah sejarah bro . Lihat sahaja kesultanan Minang yg lari ke Semenanjung untuk menubuhkan kerajaan kesultanan Negeri Sembilan ( yang dipertuan besar dan undang setiap daerah) sekarang. Kesultanan minang sudah pupus di Minangkabau tetapi masih berterusan di Malaysia

Originally from minangkabau but minangkabau an ethnic group native to the minangkabau highlands of west sumatra, so yeah from indonesia

@@leskingrot negeri sembilan also etnic group native org minang di malaysia before indonesia and malaysia born. rendang itu milik org minang not indonesia .

@@A.ALIFFFF use by your logic ottoman empire exist before turkey was born, jadi ottoman empire bukan milik turki?, USSR bukan punya russia?, Alaska punya russia sebelum amerika serikat ada, trus alaska bukan milik amerika serikat?

@@leskingrot ini cerita tanah apa suku nih? kalo tanahnya ya emang seharusnya namanya aja yg evo , tapi org nya tidak . kalo dari dulu udah ada 2 penempatan suku minang, walaupun yg satunya udah jadi indonesia dan 1 lagi udah jadi malaysia , dua² masih suku minang dari leluhur yg sama , jadi masakan adat istiadad yah sama , yg harus claim rendang harusnya suku bukan negara paham ga kau ?

@@A.ALIFFFF 1. gini minangkabau origin mana? Sumatera. Apakah sumatera dari malaysia? Nggak. suku minang lebih banyak di malay apa di indo? Di indo kenapa karena dari sana mereka lebih dominan. 2. Semua punya asal nya masing-masing, nggak peduli setelah sebuah negara lahir mereka bagian dari negara itu.

but im still the hottest sibling......💁‍

@@markodea 😂

nice to meet you!!!

@@markodea saya dari Penang Mark nanti bole try makan nasi kandar kat penang

Your rendang from padang diaspora in malaya

Rendang apeeeee

@@adijanuardea1582 not Padang but Minangkabau or simply say Minang and it's not kind of diaspora, but other Kingdom Minangkabau has three Kingdoms, two in Indonesia, they are Malayupura Pagaruyuang Kingdom and Indropuro Kingdom and the other one is the Negeri Sembilan Kingdom in Malaya, I ask you, would you say People of Austria are German Diaspora? of course not, in fact Austria is just another country made by Germanic people besides Germany

I JUST KIDDING