I'm sure he would've talked about him if he had time. You can tell this guy can tell stories for hours. This interview was too short. Conan was rushing him along for the TV show.
Glen Matlock was against the songs God Save The Queen and Anarchy In The UK. He didn’t like the controversy, he wanted to make music that would make them money and popularity. Who gives a shit about this guy.
Lucky enough to meet this genius. this inspiration, this artist. MM is probably one of the most influential men, icon and creative minds ever x Peace, Love & Reality ro all who find such posts as this x
This story is so well played out in the new Pistols series. Great show! Danny Boyle did an outstanding job. The awesome Thomas Brodie-Sangster plays Malcolm so wonderfully too! And Chrissie Hynde from the Pretenders is a well played main character too. So great!
@@cyclingSausage I love the John Lydon actor. At first he was over the top but by the end of episode 2 I loved him. The one smart guy in the band, I don't think John will mind the way he is presented. All I've seen and read matches perfectly.
@@johnhareiel5118 ironically he didn’t Swindle anyone or anything really, he was the catalyst that enabled life to be changed, he gave us all so much! A true artist!
@@marcraygun6290 a worthwhile pilgrimage, unfortunately though the quote on his grave is slightly wrong, not in meaning, rather in the words used. The quote reads: Better a spectacular failure, than a benign success Whereas in an early 00’s documentary Malcolm said: It is better to be a flamboyant failure than any kind of benign success I know I’m being pedantic but the use of language was one McLaren’s key tools and flamboyant is more apposite than spectacular. I guess it’s ironic that I’m being picky about this given how wilfully loose McLaren was with facts, however, he also believed in the power of the story and telling it right. Enjoy your trip!
He's the original punk. It's not important world history, is it? Anybody can tell a story. And all Malcolm's cohorts have done. Part of the truth is being able to tell the story.
@@FasterFaster196 the only one he outlived to was vicious so there are 4 who can tell the story after he's dead, don't start arguments when you obviously don't know anything about the subject
Glen Matlock was a dumbass. He may have beena musician but he was against what truly made Sex Pistols great. If Glen Matlock had his way, the band would have been just another tool made to make money. He was against important songs such as God Save The Queen and Anarchy In The UK.
Both Cook and Jones were also good musicians, hence them having careers in music after and doing session work for numerous artists. As for Lydon, he’s a great songwriter as the numerous incarnations of PiL proved and the level of musicians that wanted to work with him.
@@punkoid76 Sorry! Totally disagree. Matlock was the only one who could actually play whilst the others were basic novices. I've seen the professionals and Paul Cook is an excellent drummer and singer so to a certain extent is Jones. Lydon built a career on letting his ego take over admiringly PIL post punk did produce some decent material but in general would PIL have been as successful with Lydon at the helm? That's open for debate. But my argument is based solely on musical ability and Glenn Matlock was the only true musician in the pistols.
@@punkoid76 Sorry! Totally disagree. Matlock was the only one who could actually play whilst the others were basic novices. I've seen the professionals and Paul Cook is an excellent drummer and singer so to a certain extent is Jones. Lydon built a career on letting his ego take over admiringly PIL post punk did produce some decent material but in general would PIL have been as successful with Lydon at the helm? That's open for debate. But my argument is based solely on musical ability and Glenn Matlock was the only true musician in the pistols.
Most influential band in last 20 years..a big statement but possibly true...Malcom was a great manager driven by money and fame ..managed to upset the establishment big time.
@@xedsu without Malcolm rock’n roll, youth culture, fashion, life would’ve been very different. If you really want to know read The Life & Times of Malcolm McLaren by Paul Gorman.
@Bmic It was pure Hip-hop! It was not house at all,"Hard house"and house music didn't exist yet,it least not "hard house"the name and genre wasn't coined or exist yet
@@jonathanvillalobos7994 Maybe in your neighborhood there was no such thing has house music, but in my neighborhood there was. We played this song at all of the house parties that I went to. What goes on in the black neighborhoods usually filter out to the whites, a few years later, so what's new to yall is old to us. You ever hear "MOve Your Body"? Came out in 1986? Dude, stop trying to be, cause you ain't.
@@MrBmic Not so fast!,I hate to break it to you. But I come from the home of "HOUSE MUSIC" Chicago,Illinois AKA the WINDY CITY.I've been DJing since I was 14 years old.in the 1970s.Malcolm McLaren's "Buffalo Gals" isn't house music,dude.Now,let's be very clear,when you say,"This was a hard house"maybe you mean as in house party's(Literally in someone's house,playing Hip-hop?)But if you're calling a Hip-hop record a house record,I don't know what to tell you.Chicago house DJs hated Hip-hop!they didn't play it for shit!Trust me,I know,I was a Hip-hop DJ.and all my friends were HOUSE DJ's and they never played it,and hated it.they would always say,"You can't dance to it" or "the beat is too slow" all those house records you mentioned.and know and love,I had those fresh from,DJ.INTERNATIONAL records.(the record store,that was in Cicero,Illinois.they moved their store 3 different times in Cicero.DJ JESSE worked at the one in Cicero,by Cermak and Cicero ave.he made some house records too.The other record store i would buy my vinyl records would be at HOT JAMS by Curie high school,those guys thought I was a spy for DJ INTERNATIONAL RECORDS,I told them am Hip-hop DJ,but I would still buy house music records for the crowds.My other and favorite vinyl record store is the Legendary GRAMOPHONE RECORDS.and its still in business till this very day.So for the digital djs that say vinyl is dead,think again!but I have all those "Classic house records" from the 80s and 90s.Come on man,I ain't new to this!I even have all of Malcolm McLaren's whole catalog on vinyl."Move your body" I had it when it first came out.As a matter of fact,there was 2 different versions,one by FARLEY JACKMASTER FUNK,and the other one by JM SILK.I use to mix and blend those 2 records like a pro,bro.
Poor old Glen Matlock gets left out of the story AGAIN :(. I mean the guy pretty much taught the rest of the band how to play and wrote most of the music never gets a credit.
@@shaylonsegrest7372 That was the whole point.Its called break mixing.the weirder the better.Dont believe me?Check out Malcolm's "Do you like scratching"E.P. even Melle Mel,has a track called "The new adventures of grandmaster" talk about weird.but it suppose to be weird.Grandmaster flash has a track called "Tear the roof off"Elektra Records-1987 thats a Jam!
He deserves zero credit for musical genius. His "genius" lay in exploitation, publicity and hyperbole. He does however deserve "credit" for his not insubstantial contribution towards the destruction of society and societal norms.
When bullshit artists were amusing and arty rather than political leaders. As much as Malcolm was a dodgy salesman, he was also bloody great for music. RIP MM
You can't Swindle A Swindler You Cant Bullshit A BullShitter But He Did An Awful Lot For Punk And Hip Hop A Big Thanks To Malcolm He Knew Just Where It Was At And At The Right Time 👌
Glen was in the band before John, let alone Sid. They ended up kicking out Glen because he was too serious which is how Sid ended up as the bass player. Sid got his name because he was bit by someones hamster, which was named Sid and when it bit him he kept saying how vicious the creature was. John and Steve gave him the name, not Malcolm. Also, John and Sid were mates, to this day John has a ton of guilt for bringing him into the Pistols because he thinks had he never done that Sid never would have met Nancy,... or more like, Nancy never would have given Sid the time of day. She was pure groupie and never bothered with anyone not in a band..... well, except drug dealers. Malcom is doing his usual embellishing, but that's always been who Malcolm is.
It is awful the way that the real musical force of the Sex Pistols is written out of this telling. Glen Matlock was the most talented member of the group and co-wrote almost everything they did. After he left, the Pistol's stopped writing new songs and they imploded less than a year later. Matlock's biggest crime was just being the uncool competent guy who got shit done.
Here, Conan's enthusiasm was no match for Maclaren's acerbic wit. Also, what he (Maclaren) was trying to say is that he didn't so much sing as "sort of" sing on the album Paris as coo and speak, just like DENOOVE (?). Come on Conan. Deneuve.
That Épating, yet natural disdain NOT to shake hands with the other guests is somehow so right. Conan is a very intelligent man yet was upended by Talcy Malcy. Yes, he's full of shit but had a lot of moxie - and heart - paid for Sid's bail. Even Lydon, who had some 1.6 million stolen from him could not bring himself to not attend the man's funeral. Not just a haberdasher, more a situationist/iconoclast, from a time when people had genuine personalities and not venal, commodified "personalities". Very interesting.
Malcolm McCaren was the 2nd manager for the Sex Pistols. He did not create them. found John Lydon with "green hair and a I hate pink floyd tshirt" and added him to the band though.
Hi Malcolm McLaren hi I'm Juke Jock Dee do dee do day Dee do dee do dee do dee do day oh Sometimes I feel I'm gonna break down and cry, so lonely Nowhere to go, nothing to do with my time I get lonely, so lonely, living on my own. Sometimes I feel I'm always walking too fast, so lonely And everything is coming down on me, down on me, I go crazy Oh so crazy, living on my own. Dee do de de, dee do de de I don't have no time for no monkey business Dee do de de, dee do de de I get so lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely, yeah Got to be some good times ahead Sometimes I feel nobody gives me no warning Find my head is always up in the clouds in a dreamworld It's not easy, living on my own, my own, my own Dee do de de (lonely), dee do de de (lonely) I don't have no time for no monkey business Dee do de de, dee do de de I get so lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely, yeah Got to be some good times ahead C'mon baby Dee do de de, dee do de de I don't have no time for no monkey business Dee do de de, dee do de de I get so lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely, yeah Got to be some good times ahead Yeah baby Di di di di Dibby dibby du-wop du-wop yeah y-y-y-y-y-y-ow-yeah Living on my own, living on my own Living on my own, living on my own, wooh da, day, day, day, day di, di, di, di, di, di, di Be-dop, be-dop, be-dop, be-dop Be-dop, be-dop, be-dop, be-dop Be-dop, be-dop, be-dop, be-dop Woh! & It's always 6ix9ine this and 6ix9ine that Niggas on my dick and on my yack These niggas lookin' for me you could hit my jack I done dropped my address, y'all know where 6ix9ine at I don't flock, yeah Nine to his back like Ibaka Baka, not nice, with the fucking top up Pop 'em, scope on the nigga, Who Shot Ya? Dropped him, somebody call the fucking doctor! Dick up in the pussy, bet that shit get gushy gushy She want the whole gang bussin' all in her pussy I want the drip drip while I get my dick licked Lil' sick bitch, lickin' on my dick tip She a freak ho fuck her she on beast mode Arch your back, put your hands on your knees ho I'm on beast mode, shoot you through your peep-hole Said he want smoke, I don't really see it though These niggas say they heard of me, I ain't heard of you Get the fuck up out my fucking face, 'fore I murder you Bitch niggas always jacking blood, but I know they fools Whole squad full of fucking killers, I'm a killer too Send shots, shots, shots, shots, shots nigga Everybody get pop, pop, popped nigga The thing go rrrah, rrrah, rrrah, rrrah, rrrah nigga We send shots, shots, shots, shots, shots nigga All my niggas really gang bang, talk that damn slang Rap about it, do the same thing, let your nuts hang We gon' pull up, nigga, ¡ándale!, on sangre We post up, we don't do the race, you gon' die today In the spot, blow 50 bands, shit, 100 bands Shit, my pockets on a runnin' man, fuck a rubberband I'ma fuck her in a handstand, she a fan, man Need the drugs, I'm the Xan' man, I'm the damn man I roll up, I'm gon' be booted, stupid, and shoot it stupid Brought a knife, I brought a Ruger, stupid, I really do this If I tote it then you know I shoot it and I'ma prove it Back, back, don't be movin' stupid or I'ma use it (squad) Dicky stiffy, uh, bet she give some licky, uh Lil' bitty, uh, bust all on her titties, uh She a skeezer, uh, really don't need her, uh Bust then I leave her, uh, she a little eater, uh Get back, kickback, blow your shit back, uh Rip that, take that, flip that, send that, uh .223 hit, where your clothes at? Uh Scum Gang 'bout that Fendi, fin-act, uh
Malcolm didn't mention Glen Matlock, original bass player in The Sex Pistols. Glen could actually play very well, he was a real musician, whereas Sidney The Vicious was deeply untalented.
That’s because he’s telling a story. Glen could play, but ultimately was uninteresting. If the Sex Pistols had been centred around Glen and his worthy musicianship then they would’ve sunk into the mire of ok-ish groups, we certainly wouldn’t be still talking about them now.
@@neilprocter3755 Glen Matlock was "ultimately uninteresting"? Steve Jones & Paul Cook had some musical competence, but this doesn't also render them "ultimately uninteresting"? If Glen had remained in the group, the Pistols would have had a chance to be more than a one record group. The deeply untalented Sidney the Vicious hastened the end of the group. Nihilism is not interesting. The Clash were centered on the "worthy musicianship" of Mick Jones & Topper Headon. They got better & better with every album. Did they "sink into the mire of ok-ish"? Why are The Clash still being talked about?
@@ericmalone3213 I don’t think The Clash, successful as they were, became a household name like the Sex Pistols did. The Clash ended up being merely stadium status, whereas the Pistols are legendary. They were from the getgo. There was no need for them to make another record, their mission was accomplished.
@@neilprocter3755 A highly subjective viewpoint you're displaying. The Sex Pistols music was only known to certain households. Their hype, hyperbole & media horseshite ("throwing up on stage" "throwing up on the audience" "urinating on the audience" etc etc) initially got a great deal of coverage--all nonsense of course--compounded by Sid's killing of Nancy & his subsequent overdose death. The tabloid coverage eclipsed the music at the time as far as "household" name recognition was concerned. "The Pistols are legendary. They were from the getgo" "Legendary" (like "iconic") belongs to the language of publicists & media hacks. What the Pistols were at the get-go was an example to other bands that you didn't have to have much skill or ability, you could get on stage in a local venue and play to 100 of your pals. That's great when you're barely out of your teens and have to start somewhere. But the key to creativity is evolution, not being The Ramones for 40 years. "The Clash ended up being merely stadium status." Merely? This is subjective belittlement. The only time The Clash played in stadiums was at the very end of their career when they opened for The Who. You seem to have forgotten The Sex Pistols shameless nostalgia act, the 1996 "Filthy Lucre" tour, which included stadiums. The Clash left behind a great deal more substance , versatility & intelligence than The Sex Pistols could ever have mustered. The Pistols album is 3 chord monotony. Take the vocals out & the music easily passes for re-heated New York Dolls. The Clash had much more to offer just on their first album alone. Kleenex is a household name. The best group to have emerged from the so called "punk" scene is The Slits, featuring John The Rotten's step-daughter Arri Up. Theirs was the most original, beyond category music. CUT is as fresh today as was in 1979. Malcolm McLaren was always revising history to suit whatever tale he wanted to tell. He proved that if you're a very clever artful dodger, you can skip along on the bullshit for a good stretch of time, even tho you possess zero talent or ability beyond being a good bloviating interview subject.
@@ericmalone3213 thank you for writing so much. Your polemic about the Pistols takes me back to the good old days of the late ‘70s, when punk and post-punk, the new musick as it was initially proclaimed, thrived on such things. There was nothing like deep disagreement to fuel the fire so to speak; punk was against everything, even itself! Not surprisingly we’re going to have to agree to disagree. I’m afraid whilst I recognise that The Clash are an important part of the cannon, I didn’t, and still don’t, find them as exciting as the Pistols. In that sense we arrive at the same point we were always at.
@@haxio17 what's not true the fact the he collaborated with the world famous supreme team or the fact that he also collaborated with rock steady crew or the fact that you don't know much facts or that your pretty clueless when it comes to hip hop or hip hop history Yeah but I'm not gonna sit here and school someone that's never been to school
Malcolm seems drunk a bit, sorry m, not as a slight, I guess, well, I know I'd be. Just seemed Conan wanted a snappier conversation and Malcolm couldn't be bothered, Well done. m
Was he a Jimmy Saville type who got away with it? I remember that girl he stripped naked and turned into a Sue Catwoman forgery for the Swindle film/inside record cover, she turned out to be 14 then the bow wow wow girl was likely encouraged to do the same.
@@veritas4364 Maybe that's why he set them up for degradation, he did Madam Butterfly an all, that was about a 15yo girl and some older geezer, weird how he quite publicly liked 'em young but wasn't targeted for investigation later on, maybe it was specifically tory supporters who were made targets?
@@haxio17Talking underagers here, yes Vivienne Westwood dressed one of the Bromely Contigent like a hooker wearing very little, Debbie Juvenile who was found dead aged 51 the year of the Yewtree investigation. McLaren likely had links to PIE which was what his Chicken magazine was all about, it was all locked away but McLarens son burned everything before it could be scrutinised.
