@@cescosa i dont know. I feel like he was trying to poke fun at the way people in the 50s thought they were so progressive, whereas today, these should be considered the bare minimum.
the point is that he is like bare minimum an okay partner and the bar was so low back then because women couldn't open bank accounts or get decent jobs that this was like....top tier husband material...like good for him but also...SAD for all of the women and daughters.
As a man, feeling proud of myself for achieving the bare minimum (and not just the bare minimum) is a guilty pleasure that comes from a good, if not wildly privileged, place.
I do and you would be surprised, no man I know fits into those standards. They either hit their wifes or girlfriends, or/and kids, or they have a problem with them not being virgins, or they want to be with a virgin and act offended they wont consider to have them as parters because they are not virgins themselves, or they are far worse that the depicted in the video. Also pedophilia is so normalized in my country, so a lot of pedos are free because the family punishes the victims either male or female if they ever decide to call them out. So… yes, the bare minimum for me to even consider to get married is: a guy that is not an addict, does not hit me or our kids, is not a pedophile, and does not get angry for me having a job and does not expect to have control of my money. Honestly with the history of my family and all the others I know, no one is touching my money, we can have a share account but if the guy has your money then you lost you freedom, and then they change because they know you cant run away no matter what.
Feminism wasn't associated with communism because they were harder on it than we were, somehow we were actually a bastion of democracy in the 40s and 50s
Don't want to sound cliche but... A therapist who clicks with you can help assess good and general feelings, bad AND good. If you're expectations are low, hope you can figure out the points of yourself that you love the most and build strong on those points most so no one can take you away from you.
I'd say be default the 50's and their beliefs were confused, like there really wasn't an excuse for this behavior as some people believe. Time affects people's views, yes, but like. They SHOULD have known this by now.@AdolfHitler-pk1iv
I’m gonna be honest, I was on his side the moment he said “My daughters fat and I’ve never told her how much it bothers me.” That’s actually pretty good for a dad. You want your kids to excel, and it sucks when you watch them harm themselves. Be it cutting, drugs, alcohol, or eating themselves into an early grave. But to be there for her and not put her down when she’s struggling with one of those issues is great. As for the other stuff, I mean he was pretty far ahead of his time… the medical doctor comment was a pretty good example. He’d have been mocked by his friends for that but he still said it anyway. I think a huge problem with many people nowadays (and always) is we expect perfection. This guy isn’t perfect, but he’s better than most, and that’s great. I have some gen Z family members who bitch to their therapist every single day about how mean our dad was to them, then they turn around and say the exact same things our father said to us, to me. Because they know I won’t be mean back. This dude is honestly better than most of our peers, even though we would never admit it.
Uh, NO, cutting and doing drugs is nowhere NEAR the same level as being fat?? Some people are just fat?? If the obesity affects their every day life, yes, it is important to regain a healthy weight, absolutely, but sometimes, bodies are bigger than others.@@mr.doctorcaptain1124
Please anyone who is not dispicable on dating apps just ends up with no matches. Anyone looking to just hookup is not gonna see the value in the other except as a object for self gratification.
@@ahhh4117basically what he’s said is that only douchebags use dating apps and those who use it and aren’t douchebags end up without any real matches. I tried tinder and it doesn’t really work unless you have a big nice house to bring them back to and a Lamborghini to pick their broke asses up in.
Be glad he still care for you. Sometimes it hurts but better that the people who love us the most tell to us that out helth is in denger. Il we keep bad food habits. Dont get me wrong some fat is not bad. But when obesity is showing better start to change for the best of our health.
My grandfather actually was a real feminist when it comes to his children and grandchildren. But with his wife, my grandmother, he had a huge argument because she has been married before she met him and divorced her first husband. When he did find out he was greatly offended.
@@giuliaf1558 I am. To the point where his daughter is actually called after his favorite female athlete. He also addressed his daughers and me as "My friend" when speaking to us. I have never seen a man more invested in his daughter's education. He also did not want my mother to re-marry because he was afraid that her husband will then have to much power over her property (he wanted them to just stay partners, but no marrige so that all of the property would be just hers) and he did not allow me to learn how to cook food. He used to say "you should study as much as you can, do not waste your time cooking food, I'll cook for you". And he did cook for me. He was a feminist alright. But his relationship with his wife was really so so. P.S. I do honestly suspect that feminist men of his generation would be more like my grandfather, than like the guy shown in the video. I don't think feminism was something they did for attention. I do strongly suspect that my grandfather actually hated discrimination in general and he was traumatized by seing some women being mistreated by men in his own family of origin. That being said he probably was not 100 per self aware when it comes to his relationship with his wife. Perhaps not uncommon for the men of his generation either. These men did not have very good role models.
@@lizvtaz6If she didn't tell him before maryint him then there's absolutely no issue with getting offended. Imagine leaving such an important detail out. I guess maybe if she was upfront and he was offended it could be a bad look on him though.
@lizvtaz6 that’s really beating to read, he’s really a great men. I’m happy you had a present father who was supporting you 💖. He is really doing something, so yeah he’s not faking for attention, he’s real. I can understand a bit now why at first he felt offended by not knowing his wife had a ex husband (maybe she wasn’t trusting him enough because she was scared since divorced women were considered ‘to throw away’ both for sexist and ultra catholic reasons) but yeah the part of property is really something ❤️
I think it's because it comes off as earnest effort even if the ideas themselves are still problematic. Considering the social climate of the 50s, any effort is a hell of a lot more than a lot of men were bothering to put in. Obviously it sounds absurd now that the bar was ever this low but progress never happens all at once. And unfortunately let's face it... A couple of these takes are unironically better than some people still have these days lmao
Because the women of today aren’t as good as those of yesterday. The men today have the right to despise women, not so much in the past. Almost every woman is merely a device used to charge a phone that collects data on spending habits. Thank god my wife doesn’t use social media or take pictures of herself/gloat post every time she leaves the damn house. I’d rather die alone than deal with the bs my friends have to.
So true 💀 In my home they see me as a radical feminist because I figued out is not my duty to serve every man on my family, and drop everything I am doing to please them by making them a meal or change a lightbulb that is bothering them. To dare to ask everyone to serve themselves once the meal is done and set into the table, instead of having to stand up with every woman in the family to serve the males. I am seen as a radical for calling out the assholes that are supposed to be family but when they come to my home and are served by my mother they rate their meal every time and put her to the edges and then offend her and crush her dreams and disect everything she does and moke her, I am seen as ungrateful for insulting those assholes and kick them out of my home and tell them to apologize or f of. I am seen as radical for telling the guys in my family they cant get away with hurting me because I will go to the police if they ever touch me againe now that I am legally able to defend myself. I am seen as a radical for getting stonger, so when they hit me I hit harder. But that is life, people are always going to point fingers, all we can do is step up for ourselves, get out of the victim mentality and be worse than them, so when they try to hurt us we give them a lesson they never forget and then we earn our peace.
@@S_N1. Sure, one has to respect both parents, but that is not the matter in my comment. I respect my parents, I dont respect a random cousin or friend of my parents coming over and trying to touch me or insulting me for going to college instead of having kids by now, or calling my mom names because she is not “fast enough” to attend them. I am polite, but if they make an effort to be monsters towards me I am worse than them because that is the only language they understand. I used to politely ask them to stop touching me or insulting my mother, but they only got more violent, so now If they touch me I kick them in the ⚾️⚾️. It was wrong when I was a little kid and is wrong now that I am a legal adult. And honestly even if my parents where bothered for me deffending myself when a creep is literally trying to SA me in my own home, is not my problem. I respect my parents but I also respect myself. If I dont fight for myself no one is fighting to deffend me. And that is pretty much why I am seen as a radical feminist. It turns out that if you say the creep that SA you when you where a kid that you are going to let him roth in prission if he ever comes close to you againe you are a radical feminist. I dont have to be tolerant to a creep like that, one that keeps going to my house and taking pictures of me, I just dont have to tolerate that anymore because now I am legally able to stand up for myself. And if a cousin feels like slaping my face because I did not wanted to do his job for him when he demanded so right in the middle of the night after arriving exhausted from collage, I just slap him back. That was pretty much my point. Self deffence is seen as wrong and radical by abusers because they cant keep getting away with hurting others.
This hits hard because sometimes I wonder if that's what I sound like, as a feminist man. And I wonder: Is that how I'd sound like to someone many decades in the future?
@@Cagethefantasydork The worst men in this regard overrepresent themselves through their obnoxious nature. I truly hope and think we aren't that bad on average.
@@IrateGamerW I think my comment came off worse than it was meant to, I don't see guys as a whole like this. I know plenty of guys who are absolutely delightful, I'm more saying that I've met more who behave shitty than who don't.
@@squishy8758But a man can go around fuck 20 women and than get mad at a girl for not being a virgin. If you ain't a virgin, you have no right to belittle someone else for no being a virgin.
@@squishy8758 While being concious of our partners health is totally fine & smart to be aware of, i think in the skit its just showing how "progressive" back then was "the bare minimum" now. Still sexist, but not a monster lol
@@DRCx_ Nah, between Tate the Pimp on one side and the modern Male-Feminists “proud” of how “liberated” their OnlyFans crush is on the other, this guy’s pretty much a voice of reason.
@@senorsiro3748 so if not beating your wife is GOOD and not the base... then beating your wife is normal? Same with saying women occasionally have good ideas, that should be the bare minimum.
Its not really that bad of a sentiment. It is genuinely dangeeous going out as a women. You get modern tik tokers always making videos on it. Yet when a solution is offered, that you stay with a trusted man for protection, suddenly the guy is a sexist.
with most creatures that have functioning eyeballs, eye contact is threatening and over challenging. However with humans it can be something far more deeper-although it can carry more than just that meaning. It can carry a variety if you know what you're doing, it is a valuable communication tool that should be done properly. It's not something for an irresponsible child to be doing.
There’s a show that I like it was made in 2013 but it’s set in the 50’s and there’s a part where a man goes “I almost hired a woman!” And everyone else is like “wow”
@@hunterhall1575It would have been better than doing nothing, since back then nothing a woman said mattered, so a man would basically need to agree if anyone else were to actually think about something.
@@honey-hunterslimefanno.3257 Yall my comment was a dig at modern male feminists being cringe white knights, not a dig at classical feminism. Please mind the context.
@@hunterhall1575You replied to the wrong comment if that is what you meant. "Some men aren't this respectful" and your comment doesn't mean what you have said it meant.
Yet hes absolutely wrong.. Who tf decides banning all alcohol is a good idea? At least your drunk husband could miss sometimes, now he beats you double the amount
history is an eternal foreward march what was seen as progressive fifty years ago is now seen as deeply conservative. and similarly the beliefs that are progressive today will likely be seen as similarly conservative fifty years from now
oh yeahhhh wasn't that only criminalized in the seventies? Up until then marital no-no was completely fine, which was probs cause the Bible kidnapped, married, and no-no'ed women all the time so as long as the middle step happened it was a-okay
@@eg_manifest510No it was because the marriage ceremony itself was considered to be both parties permanently consenting to having sex with each other. The primary reason people would get married was so they could have sex with each other without being socially condemned. So marital "grape," technically legally at least was possible to commit because the legally required consent began and ended with the certificate of marriage.
"My daughter is fat snd I never told her how much it bothers me". UnIronically, that still makes him better than alot of people nowadays EDIT: I love how so many people reply with "well actually if she is overweight you should tell her because it's not healthy". As if most fat people dont know that they are fat and need other peoples inginious insight in order to realise the shape of their own damn bodies. Also, got to love how some even imply that being fat is always a result of bad mental health. Even when that is the case the solution is not to constantly remind/shame someone for being fat and force them to eat healthy and go to the gym (no, being a passive agressive prick about it by giving them gym membership cards is not good either) . It's to help them seek PROFESSIONAL help to sort out their mental state and THEN do anything about their bodies IF they themselves want to.
Correct. I would never say it to my daughter. I would give her a membership card for a gym as christmas present. But generally I think, it is no good policy, not to say to your children, what they are doing wrong. Inverse, the children will do the same with their parents in their adult years. It shows, that you care for somebody.
@@lolasdm6959 though I agree 100% w/ what you just said, I'd respectfully submit these are 2 different things. In fact, nobody knows whether he's said anything to her abt potential health ramiications; like the poster at top said, him being bothered by her fatness is very much "a him-problem," rather than something tangibly affecting her future.
@@NotAStanAccount It always effects her future. Most people care a lot about apperences, being as conventionally good looking as you can be is always an advantage. Also there are established thresholds for unhealthy fat, as in over 200-300 calories your maintenance caloric intake. Generally for women, it's over 89 cm for waist measure. Outlayers always exist, so just go ask a doctor.
Bro why tf do people believe that. Men run behind women and shout at them for them to get in the kitchen as a joke whilst not knowing THEY are the joke because women were not even allowed in the kitchen back then, women weren't allowed to do shit really back then. If a woman wanted to be a chef or cook she had to be trained by a man.
This reminds me why my grandma and great aunts have the self images they do. All of them, even in their 70s, compete for thinness, dieting, and generally appealing to the male gaze. It’s really sad and I feel cruel correcting such engrained “rules” bc it’s all they grew up with
My grandpa would probably never consider himself a feminist, but his wife, my grandma, worked full time as a nurse in the 50s with 3 little girls and then my dad born in ‘57. Two of my aunts got phds and my grandpa was always proud of his smart, strong daughters and granddaughters
That's great! Just wanted to add that it's kind of a misconception that women all stayed at home before the 60s. Maybe wealthy women, but working class women have always worked!
I saw someone get offended from a comment that said people (here referring to women). They were asking the op why they didn't say women and call them people. Some people are just....🚩
