As a former gymnast, I gotta say womens gymnastics definitely focuses on flexibility and form. Also it’s kinda funny how men don’t do the high beams bc if they fall on their nuts they are done for.
I mean if the cobsequence for falling was a thousand nails of fire hammered into your pelvis then would you be egar to try? I cringe at the thought of watching these people attempt this
The main difference between mens and womens gymnastics is that for men it is focused more on strength and womens is focused more on flexibility, skill, and grace (how it looks) Both are very hard and entertaining! Edit: I did not mean to start a gender war in the reply section. I was just stating the main differences between the two. Both are difficult and unique in their own way. There is not point in comparing them. Thanks for the likes btw! ❤
@@Hjjjjj254 meh, in my opinion the women looks like it takes more skill. Balancing on high beams, all that jumping and landing perfectly, it takes a lot of skill and coordination to do that.
@@Hjjjjj254 bro do one of those womens skills and then tell me… why do you always have to make it a gender war? Women’s and men’s gymnastics are literally 2 diff things. Couldn’t you see the men struggling?? Neither would win, it’s like putting a chess player and a swimmer up against each other and saying one would definitely win.
@@Hjjjjj254 now you’re just insulting me cause you got no defense when I made an obvious point lol, someone who has changed their mind on this would erase the incorrect statement above
I thought it was common knowledge that men are upside down triangles and women are right side up triangles? Men have more muscle mass in their chest, shoulders, and arms. Women have more muscle mass in our glutes and thighs. And our centers of gravity are different as well.
Gymnastics and figure skating are two sports that display different male and female strengths so well. Probably others that are similar like diving and skatepark stuff maybe? I like these kinds of sports that celebrate each gender’s specialties and abilities
I've seen enough same sex skating partners and aerial gymnasts to confidently tell you - this is about what you train and not what your chromosome is. Gymnastics and figure skating are just very conservative and outdated in their views. That's all. If the sport was more tolerant, you'd see both genders do awesome things. 🤷♀️
@@IreneWY and yet both sports have a ton of gay and trans in them. So maybe not all gays and trans people actually buy the woke trans movement. It really is not good for women's athletics.
@@jrg305 as a female athlete I can put your mind at ease - we don't feel threatened by gay guys. Nor do we consider them a problem, like you're suggesting.
@@IreneWY I was suggesting the trans movement is not good for women's athletics. I'm speaking as a gay male athlete. I swam for years, and the Lia Thomas thing is ridiculous. They don't allow men or women to take testosterone in sport, but if you take estrogen and now suddenly identify As female, you can clobber the league.
You know, props to these guys for doing so well on routines and moves they probably haven't practiced much. That really goes to show their athleticism, I think
@PointlessExistence-nq9nbwhat did he even say that made you think this?😅 He(or even she) doesn’t say that male gymnasts are athletes either. Being a gymnasts(no matter the sex) is already synonymous to being athletes, as they’re often associated with the olympics internationally. And nobody’s saying that it’s easy, how would any normal person imagine themselves performing a fraction of what gymnasts put on show.
@PointlessExistence-nq9nbhe’s just commenting about how some of the moves female gymnasts do seems impossible compared to the male counterpart. You can be aesthetic but you don’t just create a new dimension casually(as if it was even possible😅)
It’s just because most sports focus on sexualizing women and making them look pretty instead of using their strength. I may not be as strong as a man, but I would like to be seen as a living organism and not an object. ❤
@@Screech911 imo sex isn’t the problem here, the people who see you as an object would then see you as a practical object rather than a beauty object(a labour slave instead of sex slave essentially), it’s the people who allow/tolerate such behaviors and treatment that is a cause here.
We had a guy on our women's gymnastics team, the school had no men's gymnastics team. He killed it on the floor, bars and vault. I don't remember if he ever got on the beam or not. I don't think he did.
I can see why, as I am a guy who competes women's gymnastics because it is not offered, beam is not ment for our bodies, as some of the moves I do on beam could have bad effects if I split the beam.
@@JakeGoodspeed-mp4su men argue that women's bodies are not meant for b-ball, yet women play it, and with the goals JUST AS HIGH for them as for the males, who are 6 inches taller on average. boys and men can stop making excuses. get out there on that beam, get destroyed in comparison to the women, and keep on keeping on. that's what WOMEN have the guts to do! :)
@@Emper0rH0rde absolutely. gymnastics is holistic, unlike ball sports. he had a much more conditioned body, even if he couldn't do beam at all and couldn't really compete with the women overall and dragged down the team stats. the life of a holistic athlete is *much* happier than that of some juiced woman-beating psycho throwing rigged games to make their millions. most men have egos too big to do that, hence why separate male events even exist. meanwhile, women are expected to compete on women's teams playing sports created for the male body, but with VERY FEW variations to favor the female body. they don't even lower the goals in basketball. to think men get their own ENTIRE EVENTS in stuff they're worse at so they don't have to endure the comparison. really shows which sex is stronger, not just physically (yep, look up the definition of strength before assuming men are physically stronger... nope, go look it up!), but also psychologically.
It seems like the moves which rely more on physical strength, like flips and some of the uneven bar stuff, are easier for the male gymnasts. The moves relying predominantly on flexibility are harder for the men.
As a (beginner) coach, I would say that WAG athletes tend to have a graceful almost effortless type of coordination through their routines/skills whereas MAG athletes have a more powerful but less controlled kind of movement
Besides vault (where guys can pretty much do any vault that the women can do), the bars would be the easiest event for the guys to become good at in women's gymnastics. Men's high bar requires many of the same basic skills, and women's uneven bars in many ways has evolved into something closer to what men's high bar is. That's why when men go on bars it looks easier than doing the other skills on beam and floor. But given enough time (and training) to refine the skills, the men would basically be able to do the same things the women can do. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hg63AynO85M.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LULeqHc3bUk.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6FGr1o5v_1E.html
The balance beam doesn't work with male body parts. It's a sport that evolved around a woman's body, and that is awesome. Men and women have different bodies, so they can do different sports. That's a beautiful reality. Women look far more elegant and aesthetic doing their particular gymnastics moves, and I'm all for it 😅
Right? When the guy jumped and "landed" on the beam with legs spread I got so scared even though the beam was on the floor 😅😂 but imagine landing like that on a lifted beam.........😫😵😅 Guy won't be able to continue his performance...😅😵
@@helvete_ingres4717 I have seen a ring routine, so you're wrong. Also, you're wrong to think my very popular opinion that women are more elegant and aesthetically pleasing than men is invalid. I'm a straight male, so I will always believe that. Also, women are literally smoother and have more streamlined curves than men. That's why they inspire supercar looks. They're the fairer sex. But if you're into men, that's fine too.
@@MrGriff305 I didn't say 'invalid', I said 'pleb tier'. ALso you seem to have moved the goalposts from being about gymnastics and athleticism to..I'm not 'into men' sexually as you predictably suggest, but for you to understand the whole thing in terms of sexual attraction I think reveals maybe a little more than you meant to about why you watch women's gymnastics, arguably pretty creepy lol. I don't think you know anything about gymnastics or sports but I think you also don't know anything about aesthetics or art - you approximate it to the closest thing you experience, which you tell us yourself is sexual attraction. Deriving your claims about aesthetics from your sexual preferences is admitting you have no aesthetic judgement whatsoever, ergo 'invalid', ergo 'pleb-tier', all completely justified. I feel like I'm talking to some basic-bitch truck driver dude with a beer belly. 'elegant' connotates something minimal or at least restrained - 'less is more'. That's not the female aesthetic at all which is all about deposits of fat in the right places (which is those 'curves' you appreciate so much - the opposite of 'streamlined', I don't think you know what that means) to signal to men that she has so much excess energy stored in her body she has plenty left over to make a whole new person. Men even enjoy seeing all that excess tissue jiggle. 'excess' is the opposite of 'elegance', as is 'overstatement'. The female aesthetic is all about excess and overstatement. She also has a pelvis deformed compared to anything in nature that literally makes her a bad athlete - and you can see this in sports, even her basic walk is mechanically inelegant and overstated (not an efficient movement). The female body is designed to give birth and not move much unlike the male body, and is formed for that - FORM following FUNCTION is the deepest aesthetic principle there is, you can take that from me as I am athletic AND artistic/aesthetic. 'Women is the fairer sex' - a guy on the internet who lacks real aesthetic experience repeating a maxim he's heard all his life to add veneer of aesthetic cintamplation to man's primitive sexual desires, something unattractive men with beer bellies often say in a paternalistic tone, who idealise women as a way of handling their distance from them, broke shit '“It is only the man whose intellect is clouded by his sexual instinct that could give that stunted, narrow-shouldered, broad-hipped, and short-legged race the name of the fair sex; for the entire beauty of the sex is based on this instinct.' - Schopenhauer. one of the greatest geniuses of all time, WOKE shit
@@momo1461 It's the internet, you've got to realize that people generally don't care about punctuation. It was obvious enough that it was a question. Apologies if it wasn't clear, but I was genuinely asking you what you thought a real sport was.
Oooh so THATS why men don’t do high beams. As a former competitive gymnast, if I had a quarter for everytime I’ve fallen on my cooch on a high beam, I’d have enough money to dare a guy to do a back flip on a high beam
Women are just as vulnerable in their genetalia, what are you on about? Just because their eggs are on the inside doesn't mean they can't take permanent damage from a blow there, and it's just as painful.
If you land your balls in the beam it isn’t that dangerous because your balls is more durable than you think they are. It would just be really painful.
@@pshemoo2019 Nah, man, you can literally do permanent damage. Especially falling on your testicles with full body weight. One of the big reasons why we developed so many nerve endings in our balls, is because hitting them, or twisting them the wrong way can literally stop you from being able to procreate.
Center of gravity plays an important role with balance. The men will have a more difficult time with the first move because their center of gravity is more in the chest area. Since the womens' center of gravity is in the hips, we don't see them struggle to do it like the men do.
The center of gravity in typical male bodies is higher than in typical female ones, but it's NOWHERE near being in the chest :P If the arms are raised straight up, it might approach the top of the abdominal cavity but that's a stretch. The person would have to have relatively long and/or heavy arms and short and/or light legs. In neutral posture it's usually still pretty close to or even below the top of the pelvis.
It's cool seeing some of the similarities between women's gymnastics and dance because dance has illusions too and switch leaps☺️ and ofc some of the acro stuff to like front arials and back handspring step outs
I played men’s volleyball in college and still play in high level double’s tournaments. The offense/defense ratio in Men’s volleyball is much higher than women’s so the rallies average being shorter and less exciting. Men hit the ball much harder.
@@danparish1344 Precisely. I think you guys jump too high and smack (spike?) the ball too hard, then the play's over. lol I like to see lengthier rallies. The build up makes it more entertaining to watch. You guys are too big and athletic for the court size & net height. NBA was developing the same problem for a while, then S Curry came along and stretched the court. Men's beach vb is fun to watch though. I live in SB and our tourneys at East Beach are the best!
The gray guy's switch leap looked like my leaps and I'm a dancer 😭😭 also the guy's celebration looked like that one video where the baby threw herself off the edge of the couch
I was thinking that too, these male gymnasts bodies look like they've been doing a very different thing, but I reckon if you take a male ballet dancer he'd have a better handle on these kinds of moves.
@@Him_Downstairs36 Thank you for that video, would be good without the obnoxious girl's reaction but hey. Yeah there's nothing preventing a guy from becoming that flexible and flipping around all over the place, impressive stuffs
0:25 I've always found weird that I can't do backflips and cartwheels, yet I can do this move (the backward roll) effortlessly. It is one of my favorite warm-ups.
It's interesting how different men and women's gymnastics are. Like I lways knew they different. But I never followed men's enough to realize how different. This whole channel has been quite the eye opener
I just found this and absolutely love it. Former gymnast. Just showed my mom who chaperoned our trips/meets and she spit out her wine. Flipping great. Thanks for taking me back
@@leg1187 Yeah why are the female leotards so weird? They are cut off at the @ss cheek when they could be shorts like the guys. It's so inappropriate and I hate that. I used to be a gymnast and I had to keep pulling the leotard down because of a wedgie. 😑
@@dsy529 I'm glad someone is speaking out. I'm a male but I always wondered if the male costumes and the female costumes were different for a very creepy resson.
@@leg1187 Thank you! It's so annoying to see people make excuses because males are "built differently". I understand that but the ladies can wear shorts too. And the weird female uniforms are the same for other sports like volleyball.
@@ZARDDRAM0N it's not like that. Women literally have a lower center of gravity. Which means we have different balance points. That means we literally move differently when performing certain moves. I'm not hating. I'm certain there's moves that the women won't perform the same as the men as well.
I’m curious, how much of this CAN be learned with practice and training. Because I can tell you, I cannot do even the limited scope of the boys (I am VERY stiff and stretching is NOT easy) but I do know that flexibility can be improved with daily practice.
All of this can be learned unless you have a literal physical disability that prevents you from doing them. It just might take years of body conditioning to do it, though. If you stretched like a gymnast every day for just a month, you would a tremendous decrease in "stiffness." Muscles are extremely adaptable to different types of work loads, it just takes time.
It’s so weird. For males their gymnastics is so easy but when they do woman’s gymnastics it’s hard but then we like cant belive they do it that bad then we try mens and we can’t do it- It’s weird 😂
Most of the things they do look tough to me, not easy haha. And if you really think about it, mens gymnastics is more focused or strength whereas womens is more focused on flexibility, so even though same sport, both look extremely different haha :) speaking as a non gymnast and purely from assumptions, for me it looks like mens gymnastics drains more energy and womens gymnastics requires more skill and balance, at the end of the day, both are difficult
@@unidentifiedddd Oh wait- Sorry I was meaning facts about mens gymnastics takes more strength and woman’s takes more flexibility 😂 Sorry if it was confusng
There are few sports that clearly demonstrate secondary sex characteristics like gymnastics. Women are usually more flexible and men have greater lean muscle mass. Neither are better than the other, it just shows how amazing bodies are.
but gymnastics as a sport favors men b/c the strength it demands is at the extremes of what the human body can do, esp. if you look at the men's still rings event (which doesn't even exist for women as it takes so much strength), those guys are literally the strongest athletes in the world going by strength RELATIVE to bodyweight. The flexibility required in gymnastics is NOT extreme, it only LOOKS extreme to untrained people. If you can do the splits, touch your toes without bending you back or your knees, do a german hang on a bar (which children easily do) - then you have all the flexibility in your hips, hamstrings, and shoulders that you'll need for gymnastics. It's an intermediate level, not an extreme level like the strength requirement. Even some of the advanced yoga poses demand more flexibility than gymnastics ever would. You want to see extremes of flexibility, look up contortionists - they're mostly women. The extreme positions they get their bodies into aren't very mobile or powerful and don't really have a function beyond demonstrating how flexible you are so you don't see them in gymnastics
I never really realised there were basically two different types of gymnastics for men and women. Also I admire sports like this where both men and women are successful and can have similar career opportunities, without it being forced. Gymnastics, volleyball, tennis, mma, sports like these. Whereas you look at something like basketball, which is my favourite sport, and the difference in talent and entertainment value between the two is crazy. The nba is so fun to watch and I spend hours every day debating, checking scores and watching games, where as the WNBA is just known for not being able to dunk, sucking at basketball, and then complaining that they don’t get payed millions like the guys, even though their own league loses millions and is subsidised by the nba. The nba has tried so hard to get the WNBA to work and be popular, but it just doesn’t work, despite all the special treatment. But then I look at women’s rugby union, my country New Zealand recently hosted the women’s rugby World Cup, and the black ferns (nz women’s team) sold out most of their games I think. I watched every game on tv. Not because I was supporting women’s sports, but because it was just genuinely good rugby. They’re slower and weaker than the All Blacks obviously, but when everyone’s on the same level you don’t really notice, and their skill levels were comparable. A lot of the games were really exciting to watch, and as a country we were really proud of them when they won the tournament. Having written this idk why it’s so long, sry.
Most sports simply aren’t made for female bodies. But we don’t need to mock the wnba just to uplift other female athletes. Notice that nobody is insulting these male gymnasts for not being as agile as the females in this video. I don’t believe that anyone is entitled to someone else’s money or earnings. But I rarely see anybody from the wnba “complaining” about that. They just relocate to another country where they can make more money. Regardless, none of those comparisons were very necessary.
@@LoneWulf278 no ones mocking these men cos they don’t claim to be good at this gymnastics and they’re even making fun of themselves. Whereas WNBA players say they’re just as good as the men, and that they deserve to be paid as such, but in reality they lose money so they’re lucky to even make anything at all.
@@finn54123 They really don’t say this. They know what they’re getting into when they touch a court. You want this scenario to be the case so that your comment can seem more appropriate. But go off with this weird random narrative.
@@LoneWulf278 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xap8SkYjkHk.html First 10 seconds literally has an example, but I recommend watching the whole vid.
@@finn54123 They never said they were just as good as the male professional basketball players. They explained what they do to supplement their income oversees because of the pay difference. So basically… exactly the point I made.
Since comments have established the differences are based on physiological differences … what happens when someone of a gender has the body that better suits the other? People react uniquely to hormones and basically goes through a special puberty. Additionally, I think there’s the theory that sports chooses the sportsperson based on physicality. So perhaps it’s obvious regardless of gender, particular people can do a form that deviates from conventions. I love that!
There’s gonna be a boy/man gymnast who can do can do these routines. It’s very likely it’s nobody doing male gymnastics. Edit: maybe in the future, sports should accept gender diversity and consider removing gendered-sports-roles, choosing a body shape/capability approach instead. Idk the consequences to competitions or sports as a cultural and functional concept, but it would be lovely if it worked.
@@shawnbay2211 Nah theres more than hormones Female and male bodys have different bone structure and mass structure Even a female with the same weight and size cant put the same amount of force a male do And a male cand be s flexible as a woman because of these different body structures
@@shawnbay2211 tons of male dancers could do this stuff, this 'women's gymnastics' is way more consonant with dance and also with certain martial arts than what male gymnasts would usually train
This is what the whole debate on male sports forgets about… men are more suited for strenght based sports, but women are unparalleled on aesthetics based sports like gymnast and figure skating. Not saying men arent good at them, but they dont fill the same criteria, just as women dont do the same in sports like football
That truth is men are better at those sports by the same margin as football and all the others (maybe more)..you mention figure skating yet I assume you don't know anything about it, it is NOT the female skaters performing a quadruple axel jump and defying gravity like the men. You just think so because in many sports, 'they don't fill the same criteria' exists as a convention, often the event that's based most purely on 'aesthetic' (like rhythmic gymnastics) don't even exist for men at the Olympic level. If they competed on the same criteria (and if there were a significant will to do so, maybe they will) - the men would surpass the women on the same criteria, why would they NOT? The guys in this video simply haven't trained these movements the way the girls did. Whereas women don't compete in men's events like the still rings b/c..they just can't do the same things. There's a video here on youtube of female olympic gymnasts seeing AMATEUR males perform their routines and they even say the guys did it better. Like in any sport, amateur males surpass elite/olympic-level females - that's probably MORE true for gymnastics than most, as gymnastics is more purely about strength than most. What you don't seem to understand is that what you as a spectator call 'aesthetics'..IS a function of strength, it takes a LOT of strength to make something look effortless
@@helvete_ingres4717 *[Stomping feet]* Yeah!! Wamen are the strongest and men are toxic weaklings. Anyone who disagrees is committing a violent hate crime!! HATE CRIME!!! #Feminism #AlwaysBelieveHer
@@helvete_ingres4717 I mean "aesthetics" as in "the movement from the women its more visually pleasing". With men you are in awe at the power and athleticism, with women you are in awe at the beauty... that's what I mean. Like I said... I'm not hating on the men's side, I think is cool too, but if I had to choose to watch one or the other I would watch women 100% of the time; in football, on the contrary, I cannot watch a women's game to the fullest to save my life, it's insanely boring
