Doug Walker joins Brad to talk about this latest live action Disney film. Will it make them as angry as the last few live action Disney films? Follow us on Twitter and Instagram at @thecinemasnob
Nathaniel Foga How much was the body count? I mean, Mulan has a pretty heavy body count when they encountered the burned village and we see a lot of dead bodies lying on the snowy ground along with when Mulan started the avalanche which killed a lot of the Huns.
KeybladeMasterAndy and even that made more sense, since they were most likely going to die. When Pirates 3 made more sense than your movie, you know something’s wrong
In a better movie them getting married after all the slaughter would’ve been some darkly ironic thing, like, “Oh look how little the royals care about death and bloodshed, they’ll just go ahead and act like nothing happened and have a party” but I guess dark irony isn’t really the Mouse’s brand . . .
That would require an entirely different movie. What they could've done was make an effort to make Aurore so NOT over it and happy - have her say the vows wounded, bloodied, with he potted blue flower behind her etc. Show she was more so griding her teeth trough it so people have a symbol of peace, even if it marred he wedding. But then in fairy tales, it's prefectly normal to get married right after someone cut their feet or was made to dance in burning shoes or something.
It’s sad that the best that can be said about the Disney live-action remakes is that at least Maleficent tries to do something different. And have a high body count. Kill Count! Please make an exception and give this movie the Kill Count treatment.
Lauren210 Mulan I would say had a body count of 1,500 to 2,000 when you take into account the burned village, the dead soldiers, and the avalanche Huns. I still think Atlantis has the biggest death count just from its opening and the attack by the Leviathan alone.
@@jamesmoyner7499 According to Film theory, its Dinosaur with a freaking lot of lemurs death. If you're counting humans death however, it's either Atlantis, or Hercules
“It’s just CONSTANT DEATH! I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Disney movie with this much CONSTANT DEATH!” Well, that’s all I need to hear. I kinda want to see this movie now!
You should, it actually had some pretty high stakes, lovely visuals and GORGEOUS costume designs, and the three female leads (Jolie, Fanning & Pfeiffer) were all fantastic.
@@DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose Elle Fanning is such a great actress, loved her performance at Maleficents "death" Also, she was really hot. You got to see her in a very form-fitting nightgown in the climax.
@@chasehedges6775 I agree, I think Elle Fanning has really managed to make a name for herself as a great actress, and even though SPOILERS you're right, her reaction in that scene felt so real and authentic, I got chills. Like she really did just watch her mother get Thanos'd in front of her. Her costumes (as well as Jolie's and Pfeiffer's) were all beautiful I wanted to wear just about everything!
D.J. Rose Is it just me or does it feel insulting and downright disrespectful for Maleficent to be Aurora’s mother after she deprived Aurora’s ACTUAL mother of the chance to raise her daughter by cursing her?
@@ryancarson6962 A little bit insulting, yeah, I agree, but don't forget about the whole "Queen Ingrith-wanting to take Aurora as-her-own" thing. But also dont forget how bland and forgettable her ACTUAL mother was the first film. She barely had a character, or lines for that matter. All we know is that she's married to Stefen, the villain, she gives birth to Aurora and she dies. That's it. We don't even care that she died. It's never brought up again. If anything, having Maleficent as a mother is a better alternative. Still, I this movie, as well as the first, as a whole, is just unnecessary.
Right GOTG had people getting killed by an arrow but since no blood it is fine then. As long as its not red you can show it. So if you're a robot or alien or not human you can show them getting there head cuts off,limps,blow up.
I think the subtitle was only there to illustrate that that became Maleficent's undeserved rep. due to how skewed the story became between the first movie and the second. In the movie I mean, not in real life, but yeah no one's going to think that off the top of their head without seeing the movie first.
Also, it makes sense that on Rotten Tomatoes critics gave this a 40% and audience members gave it a 96%. This movie is clearly more of a crowd-pleaser than a critic-pleaser.
Yeah, but I don't know, it feels like this one exists because the first one exists. Like, the first movie was popular because it tried doing the who "Maleficent is not evil, Just misunderstood" thing, so the people making sequel thought : Hey, this needs a sequel. When, honestly, no, we didn't. The first one wasn't really good to begin with.
BunnieEar AJ Me too. I mean, it’s horrendously written, the ending is jaw-droppingly tone deaf, and the film isn’t worthy of the cast it got. But it’s visually gorgeous, Maleficent’s Phoenix scenes were pretty damn cool, and the end credits song is also kinda nice.
@@ursaminor9780 The acting from Jolie, Fanning and Pfeifer were the highlights of this movie. The climax was so crazy and unexpected. Like, I did not see it coming. It was stupid, yes, but very enjoyable and fun. It was a rollercoaster of emotions.
Disney just can't _do_ villain movies, it's impossible. Everything has to be pretty and clean and family-friendly, right down to the morals, so the idea of making a movie where the protagonist is explicitly a villain (and not a Gru-type villain where they're good people but just break the law for fun and glory, but a full-fledged *evil person)* is completely anathema to them.
Hey, look on the bright side: Angelina Jolie could've just said, "darn you, I don't care" and phoned in her performance. Instead, she gave it her all and gave a pretty dang good, genuine performance. Elle Fanning also did a great job. When I first heard that she was playing Aurora, I was... skeptical, to say the least, but then I saw her act and man, such a great performance. I think the first and second are worth watching for Jolie's and Fanning's performances.
@@Firstborn0Raz OK. Still, I'm going to see it just out of curiosity. Like, how do you make a sequel to a film that mostly "meh"? I'm going in with little to no expectations, so wish me luck.
@@chasehedges6775 From me to you I wish you eh...good luck. If it is bad look on the positive, when you go on a date and they take you to a movie they like but you hate, you can compare it to this movie and say, "Well at least it isn't Maleficent".
I didn't think it was the worst disney sequel, but I don't think it was better than the original. Good climax though. Also, Catwoman clearly had a blast in her role. Alsoalso, Mulan is totally gonna have a higher body count.
14:27 The last time Disney dealt with killer organs was Forte in BATB: The Enchanted Christmas (aka the better of the two midquels), so that was certainly a surprise; didn't see that one coming! Or how much damage it would cause XD. Also let's be real here that lady was totally getting off to the experience, her face clearly showed that she was into all the organ murders XD.
@@alexandersmith7061 Thank you for the feedback. By then way, what did you think of Elle Fanning's acting. I thought she was acting her heart out everytime she's on screen. Also, what did you think about Isabella Sermon from Fallen Kingdom? Would love to hear your opinion.
Chase Hedges Well, I didn’t see Fallen Kingdom, but I feel like Elle Fanning perfectly captured what makes us all love the Disney princess archetype, and I think that a lot of people miss that when criticizing both movies
17:50 - 18:00 I can’t believe it, but I’m about to defend something in this movie. The largest gem on one of the mannequin’s necklaces was shifted noticeably to the left, having evidently been nudged by the Queen’s arm, so Aurora figured out that the head turned to the left. That still doesn’t excuse why the head wasn’t already fully snapped back into position, though. That’s a major design flaw.
I think its fair to say "with the Disney logo on it" i mean they were already body counts in Marvel and Star wars films before disney like blade, the punisher, and of course the original Star wars with both death stars beeing destroyed. In a Disney film you can barelly see anyone killed, i mean outside from the parents of the main lead or the villain tell me one movie of Disney that that has many deads in it? (And of course i mean both live action and animated) the closest thing i think to me its Narnia or atlantis, or even the pirates films
This movie sounds like the production crew went back to the early 80s and did every conceivable drug in order to inspire them for a movie idea, and then the production was still doing 'fairy dust' during it also. Secretly you guys wrote this, hu? Did they confuse Ellie for her older sister, Dakota, (star of some horror films) and the director just wanted to marry her, or something?
She was pretty cool. Loved how she was both cute but crazy. Especially when she was playing the organ. She looked like she was enjoying ever second of it.
This and the first one, strikes me as the pitfall of having a villain protagonist. By the end they have to become the bad guy, but until then we have to care what happens to them. My personal thought is they went too far one way and tried way to hard to justify what she was going to do. Why she's not in much of the second movie, and why so many others act very cartoony though the films.
I thought that christening joke they mentioned was a reference to the couple having just had sex, then I wondered if it was a reference to Maleficent crashing the first christening. Now I'm wondering if it was a reference to both.
Aurora and Philip barely had any chemistry at all. Romantic or otherwise. It doesn't help that the actor who played Philip is so unexpressive and lame and does such a bad job of acting, it's not even funny Elle Fanning, on the other hand, is acting her heart every time she's on screen. I think it's because she's just very expressive and is very invested in what she's doing and saying. I also think that because Elle Fanning just seems like she wants to be there and wants to have fun, which is what I love. Whereas the other guy just seems like, "let's get this over with. Where's my💵💵💵💵"
It's weird that Disney decided to let this franchise die despite the initial movie doing well in the box office and it helped launch the Disney live action series.
My guess is they just made this movie because the 1st one was a hit. Still, it's bad, but it's a blast. It does have a lot of good acting from Elle Fanning, Angelina Jolie and Michelle Pfeifer. The guy who played Prince Philip... man was he bland. You could cut him out of the and not miss a thing. The three fairies are annoying as heck.
just the preview was enough to turn me off, but that was assuming it was going to _focus_ on Maleficent seeming to relearn the lesson from the first film...
@@OneArmedRetroGamer They're actually better when they're with Brad. When it's the 2 of them, I can only pick up on a sentence once every minute or so because the talking over is non-stop.
Yeah, it was strange. King: Hi, I was asleep. Maleficent: I turned the queen into a goat. Hope you don't mind. King: That's fine. It's just... there. What were writers even doing when they wrote that part?
The one thing that keeps the film from being God awful for me is the tension (and acting) between Angelina Jolie and Michelle Pfeifer. Apart from that, and the visuals- the film as a whole is like the first film- one big missed opportunity.
Personally I really liked the movie, but it probably helps that I enjoyed the first one as well. But your review was quite entertaining and your laughing was infectious. And true, the third act battle was so insanely epic, I'd recommend the film just for that! That, and the fact that I consider this to be a better Dark Phoenix movie than the actual Dark Phoenix.
For some reason I get a 2019 Hellboy vibe from this review. Except the first half hour was the most entertaining part of that one, the rest was painful.
Thank you Doug and Brad, I was spoil myself to see how the sequel is worse or better it is than the first movie, not surprised how bad it turned out. So I’m going to avoid this movie and watch Joker.
How to Train Your Dragon the Hidden World: Bad Guy doesn't kill a single person let alone dragon. Malefecent Mistress of Evil: Bad Guy gas's everyone at Wedding. Me: It's official. Disney will forever have more guts than DreamWorks!
@@motor4X4kombat Well considering how in the original book series ending of HTYD the dragons were nearly made extinct by an near unleashed fatal disease /gas, yes. The way Doug and Brad talked about Malificent 2 made me think of how insane the How to Train Your Dragon books later get.
@@YamiSpyroX okey i know both books and movies Will be diferent but the type of tone they try to adapt would not work in the world they build in the movies, thats like killing ariel at the end of the little mermaid movie, or making Adam west batman gritty and dark, or make the hobbit big and epic as lord of the rings... Oh wait a minute! Just because the source material Is diferent dosn't mean that the adaptación will blindly follow what it says.
Yep! The car is back for good :) Back in Springfield it was more convenient shooting from our apartment, but up here it's much easier to have the car back. I still want to do content though that incorporates livestreaming and the super chat, so I may start doing more video game streaming at some point.
It was strange how the had the wedding in the same day after the war! Also the plot was kind of predictable and I did expect Maleficent to bring the dead fairies back to life but, she didn’t! But I thought it was a good movie and that’s my opinion to have! I know this review is not trying to discourage people from watching the movie. Because it’s really one of those movies where YOU have to decide and surprisingly even though there is a lot of death in it if you want to take your kids to watch it then, maybe they will have fun due to children being the films target audience! But like I said, that’s for you to decide!
@@chasehedges6775 glad you thought it was a blast! I will agree the plot in the movie was kinda predictable while I watched it. But the effects and designs for the forest creatures were pretty awesome! But what did you not like about the film?
@@jaistar4695 The acting was good. Elle Fanning,Jolie ,and Pfeifer were great, Most of the actors were fine. The guy who played Prince Philip....😬😬😬🤦♂️🤦♂️. Man, was he bland or on "autopilot" The climax was so unexpected and exciting. Overall, it was a rollercoaster of emotions. It's like Doug said, "The first/second is eh, but then third act transforms everything." It makes me want to watch to first one again. Just knowing how Meh/Ok the first one was to just how Holy crud, howd we get here? The first film:😐🙄🤗"fine" "BLAND" "SERVICEABLE" Second:😐😐😐🤨🤨🤨😀😀😀😮🙂🙂🙂🙂😀😀😀😀 "CONSTANT DEATH" "BONKERS!" "WE STILL NEED TO HAVE A WEDDING." BETTER THAN LION KING.
I wasn't originally planning on seeing this movie, but after what you guys just said... ...Now I need to see Maleficent 2 just for the mass slaughter that's the Third Act!
