Malenia, but I fight her like Sekiro 

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I don't think that'd work on her though. It doesn't work on really powerful bosses

It works with every humanoid boss as far as I know since he simply cuts ​carotid artery. @@wildbard4112

@@wildbard4112 it does with divine confetti

​@@spud6989not at all bru

When you do so much damage everything is easy.

​@@auronkardek nah, it looks easy because the bosses aren't jumping your ass every 0.2 seconds spamming AoE attacks

@@grimmtherapist casual

The main game is way harder than the DLC though..

@@KengaruZstraight up lie

The training arc is real

To be honest Deflecting Hardtear was made to beat this boss. She crumbles under heavy Poise damage and the Hardtear improves your Guard Counters by 20% every Deflection. Guard Counters already do a ton of Poise Damage, now they do 100% more with the Hardtear stacked.

Yeah.. I came back from the DLC and literally beat her like she was a normal enemy.. Idk if it was the level surplus or really just mainly skill

@@Filip6754 probably a mix of both, but yeah the bosses probably got us more aware of long combos

That's how I felt when I realized you can party the Sekiro equivalent from Isshin

​@@TheSilly6403it's called one mind for anyone interested

That is not waterfowl, and that is not a parry but a deflect

@@TheSilly6403what do you mean, first off that wasn’t a waterfowl dance. Second how did you only realize you can parry everything at the final boss? That is just stupid Thirdly isshin doesn’t have as big of a flurry attack as genichiro so floating passage is more comparable to waterfowl but you decided to google the final boss and just say that?

@@thisisyou6450 1, I was talking about how it's possible with the new tear 2, I was aware that almost all attacks were pariable in Sekiro, I've platinumed it and done all gauntlets C BD NG7. I was talking about how satisfying it was 3, I was talking about One Mind, Isshin only does it in the Shura ending

It kinda was, but it was mostly only accessible to STR builds when wielding Colossal Swords. All weapons come with a Guard value, similar to shields. Problem is, that since this guard value is considerably lower than what a shield can provide, most people tend to ignore it. Colossals can get between 67% to 82% negation for blocking physical dmg. Which is good, but not perfect like shields. But, of course, most Souls vets preferred to roll a vast majority of the time.

​@@Magus_Union He said deflecting not blocking 😭

It trivialized one of the hardest bosses here, so probably not.

​@@hecc7906 it's the same thing 😢 the deflect animation is from blocking and immediately attacking after

@@SharkamfssSkill and experience also trivialize the hardest bosses. Both things are required for perfect deflections.

Obviously if she was in Sekiro she'd be calibrated for the game and made a lot faster with more vicious attacks. That said, even Isshin eventually feels easy once you're trained enough

​@@benjaminthibieroz4155Even? Isshin is easy. Compared to any emdgame Elden Ring boss, Isshin is a joke. Phenomenal and flawless fight but not difficult.

​@@Nrzpokrterto be fair it's not comparable. Sekiro's difficulty it's based in your skills and improvement but rather of the difficulty of the Boss. Once you learn how to fight the Boss then is no longer hard to you. But if we put Isshin and Malenia in comparisong taking in count the games where they belong, Isshin is the greatest challenge testin everything you learn and saw trough the game. Malenia in the other hand is hard because of her Boss Mechanics, she heals with every hit even Blocking, so it's quite the opposite to Sekiro's gameplay. Either Way now we can see how a Boss from both games would act in either game. In Sekiro we have Demon of Hatred but it's mostly a Soulsborne Boss in that game, resulting in a very long fight and endurance test. Now in Elden Ring we have a new mechanic pretty close to the parry system and shows us how it trivialices the fights where this thing wasn't prepared to deal with it.

​@@tobigomez3069 i disagree imo what makes malenia hard is the delay in the atacks not the heal. Sorry for bad english i am using google

@@Nrzpokrter Can't wait for Redditors to be saying this about the Shadow of the Erdtree bosses 5 years from now. Social media comments sections are allergic to good takes I reckon.

Literally a basic overhead slash?

@@thisisyou6450 yea it’s very similar to the heavy attack

Great katana is my favorite

Yeah but look at the way he holds it back for a second before making that clean, snapping cut ​@thisisyou6450

@@beesmongeese2978 It's clean and crisp

Very cool

Hence his massive counter-attack after waterfowl.

Max 80% extra damage

Does this work with royal knight's resolve?

It stacks up? So cool

I disagree. My man Godfrey has a powerbomb with Sekiro's name on it.

Gameplay-wise? Obviously Lore-wise? Obviously not

​@@Elden-Bearlore wise yes he can't die and have a Sword that Can kill immortals

Hell nah lore wise absolutely not and he would need to perma use his immortal god slaying sword Gameplay wise idk since a lot of these attacks are unbockable and sekiro doesnt dodge

@@Kacper-jw3bv he dodge and he's immortal

Id ur on pc get the Reforged mod Extra difficulties, more content, deflect by default, and boss revival for free Crafting is also massively improved

I mean it’s still not easy if your on low health. It’d be kind of like perfect deflecting all of genichiros wombo combo or isshins pistol. You’d almost always take damage if you don’t deflect everything correctly.

​@@HeartOfHallownest It's actually quite easy, you don't need to press L1 repeatedly. Press L1 and HOLD it while she's going on the first rush, then you need to drop L1 button and Malenia gonna have an about 1 second delay to start the 2nd and 3rd rush, you just gotta press L1 exactly between these delays from her and hold while she's attacking

@@grimmtherapist Thanks for that! I was wondering if we'd have to mash all of it.

There's plenty of ways to dodge Waterfowl Dance, there's a few videos on YT showing you how to do it :)

Why do you need the camera lock on spin? Keep a certain distance away which will let you punish everything while allowing you to jump off (or light roll) her first attack of waterfowl.

I think it's more flexible as a tear because that allows it to be slotted into more builds. Besides, its the longest lasting tear at five minutes, which is more than enough for boss fights. Heck, i even use it at the start of dungeons and it usually lasts until the end or until I find a grace

​@@malikhittam1440 Yes it's perfectly enough. Sometimes it seems you spend longer but most fights aren't longer than 5 minutes. I remember thinking once that i spent 30 minutes fighting Malenia, just to check the recording and seeing 5 minutes, and was like, wtf?

Yeah I agree, but it lasts for 5 minutes so should be long enough for any boss fight or a PvP duel.

there's a mod to remove the duration on the tear buff if you're interested

that would be easy mode tho

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I hate tha frenzy only affects tarnished npc. I think it should work on all humanoids.

They could make it so any parriable attack is also deflectable. All they'd have to do is count it as a parry player-side and remove the parry animation Would be better than being able to deflect everything as it makes the game too easy imo (ER Reforged has this feature)

I'm about this one 👍

better or worse tracking doesn't really make much of a difference when dodging makes you invulnerable for half a second and most attacks last for like a tenth of one at most

There is already a game like that. Its called "Lies of P".

Which, in turn, was borrowed from Sekiro. Full circle lol

@@13Kr4zYAzN13 wasn't really borrowed from Sekiro, i'd say "inspired" at best, as the mechanic is still vastly different, it's closer to Code Vein's deflecting mechanic, which would make more sense where it comes from, as the game uses similar combat and mechanics to Code Vein, relying more on Blocking than Dodging to defend against attacks and also having mutliple skills and stats to boost a lot of varience on the fly... (which also makes sense with a lot of each game's skills being tutored more towards improving blocking and deflection based gameplay)

I swear if the player character used greatswords like they were actual swords and not clubs Malenia would stand no chance

@@no-112aka the new light greatsword

@@no-112 That's banished knight sword to you

@@no-112 Souls games have always relied on the player character being a godawful fighter for difficulty.

Elden ring and Sekiro were made at the same time so the dev team didn't really have a lot of chances to implement what they learned in 2019. By 2020 up until the release of Elden Ring, the foundations were already set it would've been difficult to implement Sekiro's mechanics in a way that balances with everything Elden Ring does. But we know of sure the next fromsoftware will have more of Sekiro in it like Armored Core did

@@potatoesblink3299 makes sense. In 10 years playing souls game, I always wondered why there wasn't sword clashing in these games (breaking my immersion a bit) then sekiro came along

It helps if you're level 278 like he is

Something tells me they tried that, but they couldn't balance it with FP lol

Honestly it's the hp that makes the final boss a pain if she had the dlcs boss hp she would be way harder

@@azeria1 Well, if we add the hp from her too phases, she's roughly at 35 000 while DLC final boss is around 40 000. And that's not taking her healing into account. Her most significant weakness is the fact she can't staggered.

Agree. It was like child’s play for me.

This is the cycle of fromsoft games, after you struggle through the game in your first playthrough, the next playthrough will always feel much easier. We will feel the same about the final boss after a while

Even Radadaddy feels easy after Malenia

Because data miners found that she was reused from a scrapped Sekrio DLC

@@Kingdomkey123678That is blatant misinformation. They found that waterfowl dance uses the same animation as one of the combat arts. There is no evidence that she was from reused sekiro assets. A more reasonable theory is that she is a revitalized sekiro boss concept.

​@@basicus0she is from sekiro, she has an unused animation, the mikiri counter animation.

@@chuchodal25 Proof?

We been saying that day one lol

Who's radahn

@@Zszz-lq1nu DLC

@@Zszz-lq1nu Starscourge Radahn. He used the DLC item to easily slay the starscourge.

​@@basicus0 used confusion 100 😅

You should time your deflects with her attacks, which is kinda hard to do perfectly, like genichiro's long combo attack in sekiro

@@Limebee_ ah ok. That would've been harder then. Genichiro's attack is much simpler to deflect. Honestly says a lot about melania as a boss fight

@@vishnuanand1583When you hear pros talking 😅

@@vishnuanand1583 It doesn't actually because Genichiro is from a completely different game?

@@lordofthecookie8555 no it does, Melania is a sekiro boss and even then she's pretty hard

What do you mean? He took this away from base game because he KNEW we would try this lol

Timing the block, just like sekiro