"History is always written by the victor, and the histories of the losing parties belong to the shrinking circles of those who were there" - Joachim Peiper
@@lorenzograham7854 mate since when did I say I was defending him? This quote has a lot of meaning, did you know that a number of americans committed various atrocities similar to peipers during the battle of the bulge, but of course it was covered up and nobody got in trouble. Its war, nobody is completely good.
@@hahahoodgoboom4778 yea mate I here you but some 500 german pows killed is nothing and most of them are ss shame on any person defending the ss🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@hahahoodgoboom4778 US troops never perpetrated any such wholesale slaughter as that committed by the 1st SS Panzer Division under the orders of Piper. Read about Piper and the 1st SS Panzer and their slaughter of civilians as well as soldiers. Study up. Joachim Piper died unrepentant and never addressed his orders to murder unarmed soldiers and civilians. Piper is what we would call today a evil shitbag.
@@paullewis2413 I can understand the quality of the images at the time, but the ravages of time in storage on the media, even if transferred to other modern medias as the time progresses, I would expect some severe degradation. It has survived so well.
The most important part of a camera is the lens. If you have a cheap lens on a camera, the image's quality is not as good as what you get in a more expensive lens. I'm sure they used 16mm films in this trial which was the norm in those days.
You do know it shows people being hanged? There are many other vids on YT that talk about Malmedy without the hanging. To try to cite this as an example of YT deliberately not wanting kids to learn history is simply inaccurate
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@@sciflyernineteensixtynine6950 In early 1970's our high school class viewed raw/uncensored concentration camp footage which included piles of dead bodies being bulldozed into mass graves. I have always believed these scenes should be seen as they were filmed with no censorship. I have never had any issues after viewing them or reading about them....
My Australian father was a Judge-Advocate at the Southern Pacific War Crimes Tribunals held in Rabaul, New Britain, from 1945-1947. Nearly 300 Japanese soldiers stood trial. 40 were acquitted, 73 were hung and the rest were committed to up to 30 years imprisonment. Copies of most of the affidavits of evidence against those hung were in my fathers papers which I read after his death in 1992. I cannot tell you of the unspeakable acts of barbarity that occurred against nurses, missionaries and Allied soldiers in captivity. What happened at Malmedy was a walk in the park apart from the loss of life. My father was scarred for life from those two years of trials. My grandmother said she sent away a robust red-headed man and respected lawyer in 1942, to do his duty to defend his country, who was wounded twice and suffered from Malaria and nearly died. She said she got back a hunched over old man, with remnants of white whispy hair. He never practiced law again. War crimes occur in all conflicts and on all sides, but it pains me to consider that of all nations that abhor such crimes, the United States itself refused to ratify its membership of the International Criminal Court (War Crimes) to prevent its own soldiers from being prosectuted for their own war crimes under international law. During the Nuremberg, Tokyo and Rabaul Tribunals after WW2, the US was very aggressive in prosecuting the war crimes of Germans and Japanese, but refused to do so against its own armed forces, many of whom committed equally heinous acts of murder as the SS did in the Malmedy incident. Its epic hypocricy.
It's interesting that the officers got more lenient sentences than the soldiers. The whole affair and level of human suffering is so sad on both sides.
Despite their crimes, I was impressed at their stoic behaviour at the sentencing. Aside from one of them that turned and rudely stomped away before they had finished speaking to him, not one of those guys flinched or even gulped etc. Bad people are not necessarily cowards it would seem.
@@joachim1628 What a load of crap. If Julius Streicher wasn't a "bad guy", nobody is a bad guy. Don't try to blame young people for the atrocities the Nazis committed. The Hitler Jugend was under firm control until the very last days of the war, when the regime collapsed. They acted on the orders of the older men who commanded their units, and they, in turn, acted on the orders of the high officials, especially Hitler, the Supreme Commander of the German Armed Forces.
@@lethe3939 well duhh,, this kind of war crime is right up there with ISIS and the Taliban Al Qaeda ( AKA, 9/11 ) war criminals who actually think there going to rule and control the world,, thank God American's have there second amendment that will never be infringe,, fact most war criminals or any criminals at that matter are sociopaths they have no mercy or morals.
Did you know, Peiper gets set free in 1956, and begins working with sales at Porsche. He later moves to France with his wife (pretty arrogant move), where he lives for many years, until he in 1976 agrees to attend in an interview about him. A few weeks after this interview is published, his house gets burned down with himself inside it, while his wife was visiting in Germany. They found a loaded .22 rifle by his side.
Kinda had it coming .rumour at the time it was french communists. But then other rumours he was done to cover up what he knew .... People like speculation
He could have run out of the house and saved his life. But he was trying to gather things, and also some of his wife's clothes. He was planning to move to Germany within days; his wife had already gone to Germany. He knew his life was in danger. That explains the guns. Had he left a day earlier he would have prob been safe in Germany.
@@halibut1249 most of us would pack our bags and leave the house straight away after being threatened like that. But not Joachim. The man had balls of steel. Too brave for his own good judging by the incredible stunts he pulled on the front line. Nothing fazed him and that was what caused his eventual downfall by the sounds of it.
I think he went to France, as german "Nazi-hunters" never stop to harras war veterans. France declared war on Germany and attacked first. France was defeated by Germany within 6 weeks and was under German occupation from June 40 to June 1944. More French people died in mass bombing during the Allied liberation than during the German conquest and during the entire occupation period! After that, the French, as the "victorious power", made extensive use of their right to get back at the Germans. Nevertheless, peace returned to Europe and I don't know what's "arrogant" about Peiper moving to France.
Some comments here were disgusting. This man was an accomplished soldier, he has beaten a lot of Americans in a fair fight, so they got back at him after the war. For months before trial him and his mates were brutally tortured and treated horribly. Decades later, he was murdered by a bunch of thugs, they found his dead body with a gun right next to him... He died like a man. And all those "nazi hunters" would probably squeal and beg for mercy if they were put in such position. My grandfather fought on the "other" side of that war, but I hold deep respect to men like Pieper. He was an accomplished warrior and a true defender of his country.
speedoflite1 Utterly incorrect. There was only one 'take no prisoners' order and that was for active Bolsheviks caught on the eastern front. Any other incorrect information you'd like to add?
Fuzz Garrett You need to read: "Massacres and Atrocities of World War II" by George Duncan" and "War without Mercy: Pacific War" by John Dower. - these and other sources discuss murder, abuse of POWs and civilians, retaliation, and counter-retaliation committed by ALL sides throughout Europe and Asia. I accept your apology in advance.
speedoflite1 You need to listen to the testimony of Hal McCown that took place right in this trial. Germans took plenty of prisoners on the western front and you'll see very clearly what their "standard operating procedure" was. In that post you simply skirt around the flawed argument you made in the post before. Let me be clear: Nobody, including me, says the Germans didn't abuse any POWs from time to time, as did all sides. But you said it was "standard operating procedure" for Germans to murder prisoners on the western front, and that is utterly un true and no amount of semantics games on your part will change that. You said: "[Killing prisoners] was SOP (standard operating procedure) per the Führer, "take no prisoners!" Utterly false. The Wehrmacht manual was also very clear about this. You seem to forget that Germany also signed onto the Geneva Convention. Such 'standard operating procedure' would not be permissible under the Geneva Convention. If you have evidence of a direct order from the high command telling the Wehrmacht or Waffen to summarily execute prisoners as "standard operating procedure," then either post that or stop the semantics games. MANY prisoners were taken on the western front. Hal McCown was one of many.
I had a uncle who served in ww2.He told me that they killed captured german soldiers and that the germans were not the only side of the war that did the same.
2 wrongs don't make a right. Read up on the 1 SS Panzer Div. and its long list of atrocities. These SS guys were nothing like the avg German soldiers. If a few rules were broke & some SS dudes didn't make it to a POW camp. Well, they pretty much deserved what they got.
@@AndyP998 It's like the different degrees of murder. So yes, a few knuckleheads killing a few POW's is different than a battalion of executioners roaming the countryside Thats why we have different degrees of murder. The victim is still dead, but the circumstances decide the severity of the crime.
I realise that most of the defendant's had their sentences commuted but the question I have is this. What was the criteria for sentencing ? How did they separate the death penalty from imprisonment? Sounds like a numbers game by the judges to me as to appease Stalin and the French. The Waffen SS were brutal as we're many allied units. The RAF bombed Dresden twice in one evening just so they could kill the fire brigades after the initial bombing had caused a firestorm. To the victors go the spoils I guess and accountability is one of those advantages.
pff. His rubbish personality overtook his intellect, nor was he very practical. His courage was born in his impulsivity, recklessness, fantasy and self interest
Good? He wasn't good. He was well connected. He got the best assignments, the best weapons, his pick of troops. He failed on the Eastern Front, and he failed in Belgium.
Neither of them whined for mercy. Neither of them cried. Neither of them acted like a rat. Paiper acted like a real commander with great character. And that mysterious smile of the Mona Lisa while hearing his death sentence ... Few people know that Peiper was fluent in English, but he did not want to speak this language in captivity. People with great charisma, class and peace. It shows. Real soldiers. RESPECT.
Where was the trial for the Chenogne Massacre, Lippach massacre, Biscari massacre, what about all the Germans who surrendered on dday but were executed because the allies were ordered not to take prisoners. Or the 900,000 POWs starved to death by Eisenhower? I’m not saying what any of these men did was right, but we need to understand that in war it is a different situation, men are forced to do horrible things. Unless you have been in their shoes you have no right to judge any of them.
Mannn! People were Soo different in those times. I find it unbelievable that they Honorably took those Death Sentence with Soilders Pride! Some guys even Bowed to the Judge after he Sentenced them to Death by Hanging. I Feel sorry for these guys and this was kind of sad. I'm sure mostof them didn't get a fair Trial and this was just American Vengeance upon them! They were defending thier Country and Following orders as Soilders. I'm amazed at thier courage and their honor to remain soilders to the end! Much Respect to the German Soilders 👍
Remember, during the war these guys saw death around them everywhere. Many prob avoided getting killed just by luck. Bullets and bombs very close. It psychologically braces you for death. Germans who worked in death camps put innocents to death everyday. All that exposure to death braces you to accept your fate, come what may. But none of these guys in the end got executed. Their sentences got commuted, at first to long prison time, then shorter prison time, by 1956 they were all released.
Pretty hard to claim germans were only defending their country when they committed the malmady massacre in Belgium, a neutral country they had invaded twice, in 2 world wars, that GERMANY STARTED. Please extract ur head outta ur azz before making such a STUPID claim. Germany got exactly what it deserved.
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim of course you have a problem with gay people. Do you also have problems with people of color. how about the jews you fucking nazi. got you red handed
@@kjragg1099 It's hard to say he had a big Ego when his soldiers always said he was a great leader and very charming. He knew how to use psichology, that's all. =)
As all men will die, both "innocent" and the guilty, God will judge all our lives, our thoughts and hearts. No one will escape. God will know the difference between duty and willful killing. Just as many innocent are wrongly convicted, many of the guilty go free. God cannot be fooled, nor can He learn anything. God knows everything.
Jochen Peiper...."Kuno Von Dodenburg" in the SS Wotan by Leo Kessler (Chalres Whiting) Whiting knew Peiper personally and is one of our greatest historical writers. Jochen Peiper was released, but murdered in the 1976.
@comfortableman12 He was sentenced to death, and then after many years pardoned. Little is known of the process, and if every soldier would get what he deserves through the centuries, especially when it comes to american war criminality, there would be a large number of murdered american soldiers from all wars of the 20th century.
Indeed, brave men judged by hypocrites, let's not forget that Allies gave us to the soviet union,Allies helped communists grab the power. Of course they brushed 🇷🇺 atrocities under the carpet...
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Those familiar with Charles Whitings pseudonym "Leo Kessler" Writing about SS Wotan, will understand that Peiper is "Kuno Von Dodenburg". Charles Whiting is probably the greatest wwii historian writer to exist.
Had a good friend who was an us army guard at a POW camp in washington State He said they never had an escape attempt at the camp till after the war but, had several attempts when they were on the train back to the east coast to repatriate the persons back to Germany at end of the war.. they didnt want to go back to Germany life was too good here.
On December 21, 1944, during the battle around Gleize, Peiper captured an American officer, Major McCown, who was leading one of the battalions of the 119th Infantry Regiment. Having heard about the Malmedy massacre, McCown personally asked Peiper about his fate and that of his men. McCown testified later that Peiper told him neither he nor his men were at any risk and that he (Peiper) was not accustomed to killing his prisoners. McCown noted that neither he nor his men were threatened in any manner. While on duty in Italy, Peiper discovered that the Italian government had captured a group of Jews. He had them released to him, and he then set them all free. One of the Jews was a rabbi, who later wrote a testimony to Peiper's kindness during his war crimes trial.
Its called murderers and they were a group of young communists.They decapitaded his body before burning his house after they killed him.real heroes they were.
@@feikotemme8736 - the Nazi's who fled to S. Amer. after the war (Adolph Eichmann, Joseph Mengele) were running from prosecution. Peiper WAS prosecuted as you can see in this vid, and served ten years in prison, then released, free to live where he wanted. That doesn't mean there weren't people who would kill him if given the chance. Maybe he would've been safer in S.Amer. or if he changed his name or identity, or avoided places like France that Hitler's Germany seized during the war.
Joachim Pieper laughed , and that's the best you can do againts these puppets.He made feel them frustrated, their power is to scare you, but if you smile to the death, it's like to spit in their faces. He understood that this trial had nothing to do with the real justice.
Ultimately the sentences of the Malmedy defendants were commuted to life imprisonment and then to time served. Peiper's sentence was commuted to 35 years in 1954 and he was released in December 1956, the last of the Malmedy condemned to be freed. He had just served 11 and a half years in prison. During the night of 13/14 July 1976 (Bastille Day), Peiper's home in France was attacked. In the ruins, Peiper's charred corpse was found together with a 22 caliber rifle and a pistol. The perpetrators were never identified. A comunist group calling itself "The Avengers" claimed responsibility for his death.
Ulrich Esser It’s not fair is it Ulrich? It’s just not fair. Bloody capitalists, Jews, national and international socialism, it’s just not fair. You should write a book about it.
Mathias Dreßke which is far better than the justice they would have meted out and did mete our. The Nazis sense of justice was the most vile that has ever come into Western European life. Their hatred of non Germanic races resulted in the worst acts of human cruelty. The history books are filled with them.
@@rhysnichols8608 oh yes! That definitely won the argument. Tell you what genius, so see how the nazis tested poles, Slovaks, Russians, Czechs etc etc. You might be beyond education and reason, perhaps the only thing that can save you is prayer.
One of so many cases of victor's justic. Jochen Peiper was an exemplary soldier and officer. No war crimes have occurred in Malmedy. First of all, the US soldiers surrendered after a first fight against the Kampfgruppe Peiper. The German Vorauskommando had to continue attacking and ordered the prisoners to surrender to the advancing units. The US soldiers then picked up their weapons again and were eliminated by advancing German units. That's the truth.
I read that a Rabbi gave a personal reference for Peiper at his trial, saying how Peiper had taken control of a group of captured Jews from the axis Italians and then released them.
@@coloradoing9172It's a standard American excuse for not admitting that Germans aren't just beasts. Joachim Peiper didn't need to "look good" in front of the allied victors. No one from the Waffen SS ever tried to save their necks this sleazy way.
@@Fantomas4616 These men got later top positions because they were top men. They were our elite. Unlike today's elite, these men were highly intelligent, highly educated, and very capable. The fact that they were with the SS was a major professional obstacle at the time, but almost all of these formerly "high-ranking" individuals later went on to have good professional careers.
Incredible that so many young mostly fit soldiers waiting calmly to be sentenced to death instead of jumping from the bench and try to kill few more, some even could escape. They had nothing to loose
This video is MISLEADING, it says "trial uncut", but in fact, its all CUTS and even no audio. This video is horrible and a disappointment to those of us interested in history and wanting to actually see the UNCUT version of this important historical trial.
u will never get the truth they covered loads up himlers so called suicide was a load of bull a few have spokeen out about it but made out to be crazy or not there
@@kaa13 But why show some hangings? No one was executed as a result of the trial. Many got a death sentence, but they all where let go as US government found the trial to be a mock trial and evidence was tainted. Even though one today may have reversed that once again they freed all the prisoners. Peiper lived until 1976. So this video is massively misleading in a historic context.
The story is that this took place during the period when the British, French and Americans suddenly realized that they were going to become embroiled in a conflict with the Soviet Union. This conflict was known as the Cold War. The Western Allies recognized that Germany would become a valuable partner in this Cold War and that carrying out a lot of these sentences to the fullest would only further alienate a defeated German populace and the German government. So many of the death sentences were later commuted and prison sentences were cut measurably short.
@@zeorangervred5222 its not operation paperclip because these guys never contributed to their field anymore. Most of them went to work in a factory after they served their sentence. Piper was on death row for years and was murdered later by french communist. The germans specifically offered to organise a division from former ss troops to fight against the soviets but it was refused.
Ultimately the sentences of the Malmedy defendants were commuted to life imprisonment and then to time served. Peiper's sentence was commuted to 35 years in 1954 and he was released in December 1956, the last of the Malmedy condemned to be freed. He had served 11 and a half years in prison.
Joachim Pieper, SS Panzer tank commander, pulled out of Russia for the Dec ‘44 Ardennes attack, didnt take prisoners. He, in fact, gave orders to kill the GIs taken prisoner at Malmady. In this court he was sentenced to death, but sentence was commuted by a German court. He was tried again, but was freed. Finally, Pieper ended up on his farm in Belgium. On night he was assassinated on his farm - no one was ever tried for his killing.
His unit, known as the "Blowtorch Battalion", also burned and slaughtered two Soviet villages near Kharkov where 900 innocents were murdered, including woman and children. And I thought he died at his house in the village of Traves in France? www.thefewgoodmen.com/thefgmforum/threads/the-killing-of-jochen-peiper.2783/
@@kjragg1099 yep seems so. After the Molotov cocktails smashed through window/s he oddly went in/out the house, chucking papers and clothing out a window, 'til succumbing to the smoke. His body was identified by a neighbour on the cordoned scene, shortly after
@@camerong5513 that is strange. The clothes and papers must've had some sentimental value then (he was a writer too I think). Very interesting man indeed. I still think it's weird why he decided to settle in France of all places, despite being an SS man with Nazi war crimes under his belt.
you have several inaccuracies there, some important. His sentence was commuted, later amnestied by the US High Commissioner in Germany. There was not a second trial, and so there goes your "freed" as a result. He was finally paroled in late '56. He was in US prison/ POW camps for over 11 years, continuous. His residential property was in France, not Belgium. Assassinated ? I guess that's a not unreasonable conclusion. His house was fire bombed yet he kept going in/out of the burning house to throw his wife's clothes outside and papers
@@kjragg1099 well, he had days to weeks to decamp - he was warned again and again the house was going to be razed. The reason is clear - he made it so. He had fallen out with multiple employers in Germany, too bombastic and demanding for a war crim at Porsche, and later bringing their rep down, with his name being splashed on nazi-outing magazine/s. Yet, in '67 he publicly avowed his unremitting loyalty to Shitler's 3rd Reich, otherwise odd for someone with a better sense of self than he. Few Nazis that were not escaped to Spain, South America, USA, Middle East and those flown birds were unwilling/unable to revive national socialist movement in the Vatorland- it was economically booming with out it. So, the Col decried the "decadence", "materialism" of post war Germany, out of step with his desire for return to NS policies. Oddly, for a vain peacock of an officer, who appropriated stolen luxury cars, sports cars, an enemy light aircraft and got around in his SS dress uniform on a regular basis, riding pants, lanyards, cavalry horses he wanted Nazi ascetics, if not an illusion. He was a sensitive, emo, narcissistically so, guy, bitter about his years of penal punishment and abandonment. Then yet higher promotion snuffed out at Porsche, sued them, but lost. He complained the Germans, even some his old comrades, but not of his Shitler Youth days, had done him "so much harm". In fact, multiple of his subordinates had given him up in the Malmedy tribunal days, with damaging testimony about his long standing Genghis Khan terror doctrine in the East ie slaying of captured enemies, nearby civilians, killings of 2 POWs in Belgium in front him, once at his command, verbal order for "terror" in the Ardennes, forcing captured GI's to assist the SS battle prep and threatening a GI or two with shooting for being slow/dropping some Nazi equipment. Few German soldiers or SS staff visited him or even wrote him during the long years confined at Landsberg prison, he moaned. Alot of the comrades were dead or had nothing to do with the SS once the war ended, for one it was illegal. A publisher moved him on too, when his infamous rep started doing the rounds, when there were ongoing war crimes trials in the late '60s. He adopted a pen name in response and moved to a region in France well known to him, secluded and personally liked . I guess he wasn't any longer getting the narc supply in the Vatorland, either, he had thrived on from the Nazi upper hierarchy, its wives and concubines, staff, his ruthless occasional military commandment and long since past reckless, daring, battle successes. His kids were off at uni or soon to be and his son did not like a reputed Jew slayer for a daddy. Into the mix he would have had BPD so would have struggled with perceived/real abandonment in Germany - multiple jobs lost due to his dark history etc. I'm told the area was Vichy territory so he at first had Vichy police apparently looking to keep him safe. The mayor welcomed him to the town with a visa, knowing quite well the Col's history in the '30s/'40s. Yea weird, kyle. It could be said it did not turn out well for him in France - he and his wife, also an ex SS staff, only lived there in house for 4 years, before being well and truly smoked out
"Taught in schools"? You mean they get mentioned in passing as part of the German armed forces? So are all the other soldiers in WWII. The most important fact about these soldiers is that they LOST, they were BEATEN, that their "racial superiority" was shown to be a fantasy by their DEFEAT.
@@daebak6974 They were much better soldiers than any other soldiers in the world, you dope. That's why it took the U.S., Russia and Britain to defeat them -- and then only by firebombing a million civilians to death.
@@hurryandleave9680 They were good soldiers, well trained and disciplined. But I urge you to read "Null acht funfzehn" (08/15), a novel by Hans Helmut Kirst, who served in the Wehrmacht. The title is the mythical number of the "rule" that turns everything into chaos, incompetence, and bullshit. A bit like "Snafu" in the US -- "Situation Normal, All Fucked Up". Or Fubar -- "Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition". In the novel, a bestseller in Germany, Kirst shows us the massive incompetence, stupidity, and chaos that existed behind the propaganda images purveyed by the Nazi regime. Another example is the famous incident where Goering, visiting the Westwall, was told that some Allied bombers had just flown over his location. Goering denied it, but the officer insisted that he had seen them himself. Goering then yelled "I order you that there were no planes!" The officer saluted and said "Jawohl!", but the sarcastic look on his face was remembered by all who were present. Goering was the genius who told the German people that his preparations for air defense were so perfect that if any Allied planes got through, "My name is Meyer!" People remembered this idiotic outburst when the German cities were being bombed into rubble. Hitler thought his armies would easily dispose of the Red Army, and expected to wrap up his Russian blitzkrieg by October at the latest. Therefore it was decided that the German troops would not be issued any winter clothing. "Bad for morale! Anyway, we'll be out of there long before the first snow falls, so why scare the troops by handing out snow pants and mittens?" This did not work out very well: the Germans were still in the USSR, trying to defeat the Red Army long after winter had begun, and the German soldiers had to deal with the bitter cold Russian winter wearing their summer fatigues. When Mussolini visited Germany before the war, Hitler wanted to impress him by showing off his troops involved in war games. When Mussolini's son in law, Ciano, later asked him how the German troops had performed, he said "Nothing special, same as our troops." 08/15 shows how "elite" the German troops were at ground level, where loudmouth NCOs bellowed contradictory orders and threats at the enlisted men, and nobody knew what the hell was going on most of the time. Why did the German troops perform as well as they did? They didn't necessarily perform well. But they did perform better than their opponents much of the time, and that was enough to win the victories they had. After 1942, the Red Army improved greatly, and at Stalingrad it gained the initiative and never lost it afterwards. The Western Allies were never as good as the Germans, but they had such overwhelming material superiority that it didn't matter -- they were always going to win, the Germans didn't have a chance. The most important stupidity the Germans committed was to go to war against the three greatest powers in the world at one time. This was suicidal for a medium sized country easily accessible from all sides, and close enough to the enemy to be subjected to mass bombing that effectively destroyed Germany's capacity to defend itself. Added to that the abominable behavior of Germans throughout Europe, but especially in the East, gave strong motivation to the Red Army soldiers as they marched through the areas that had been under German rule and saw what the Germans had done. Yes, German soldiers were better trained and fought more effectively, man for man, than their enemies. But that in itself meant nothing -- Germany guaranteed its own defeat by invading the USSR, and then declaring war on the US. That stupidity was Hitler's, and was shared by his generals, who for some reason obeyed this jumped up corporal as if he were some kind of military genius. Their duty to their country was to overthrow Hitler and save millions of German lives and prevent the destruction of the country. They failed to act on this highest duty -- to their own people -- and in doing so betrayed their country and dishonored themselves and trampled the traditions of the Prussian Army.
Too bad you can only read ads and propaganda. They're designed for a 4th grade reading level, which you can struggle through, slowly. But when it comes to writing aimed at adults, you are lost. I have no obligation to spoon feed information to you. In fact, no one has that obligation. Upgrade your reading skills, don't tell everybody else to talk down.
My father was a WW 2 combat Vet and he was told that if they captured surrendered SS troops they were to execute them. So the USA is not so clean after all. This is not to excuse anything done by the Germans. Just remember that the US and EU media is totally kosher owned.
I'm wondering when they are going to trial the Americans who shot and killed about 60 German POW's on jan 1st 1945 as a revenge for the Malmedy incident. Also the numerous other cases where groups of captive German soldiers were killed by their American captors. The Germans at least admit there were people who committed crimes during the war, what disgusts me is that the Americans still pretend they are all angels.
I saw a WWII POW picture of a Japanese soldier with sword raised over his head, face contorted with rage, about to behead a stooped but dignified blond boy/young man who looked as if he was simply examining the ground.
Ironic that LTC Peiper spoke fluent French and English and in fact corrected the translators (not shown in these videos). This was an honorable man that took responsibility for the actions of his men good or bad. Didn't not put blame on anyone else and spoke the truth. LTC Peiper is a soldier's soldlier not some murdering Nazi. There is a saying in the military (pick your service) it not the right way or wrong way but the Army way. There is a huge difference between justice served and vengeance of the victors....
The German officers are cultivated people. When traveling in France you have to speak French, otherwise you get no tea or whatsoever. If you're interested, there is a fine biography of LTC Peiper. RIP
@@camerong5513 i am a german philologist and i know lots of about the european politics and history than you guess.i offer you to read the biography of Peiper and search about him a little bit.maybe you can discriminate the difference between a soldier and a murderer after doing that.
In mano moments i.e. 27:97 you can spot Mrs Sigi Peiper in the audience wearing a black hat in the back. She is Peiper's wife and I recognize her by cross examinating the picture taken during those days.
Peiper at this juncture was commanding Kampfgruppe(battlegroup)Pieper which was huge and stretched a long way,over 100 tanks700 vehicles,5000 men,when the massacre happened he wasn't even in the vicinity as were a lot of these men,however a massacre did occur,he was later murdered in France.Most of these men were soldiers through and through no matter what idiots think Lumiere Media.. for taking the time and upload
@@camerong5513 Yes and No. He wasnt there to give orders are not even within radio coverage. That terrain practically killed radio communication between distances, especially those on tanks. But you proved your point. He wasnt there
@@AndyP998 wdym "Yes and No"? Either he was there just before the massacre , which he was, or not. How do you know he wasn't within radio coverage ? Seeing you want to make a point of it let's see you prove it , eh?
Wow... that's some serious fanboy ignorance on display. Not only did Peiper testify that he was at the scene as the POWs were herded into the field, but the driver of the SPW that Peiper transferred to at the Baugnez crossing stated 6 months after the massacre that Peiper had ordered it. Of course, anyone with an IQ above 12 would know that aligns with common sense. Are you such a fanboy that you think Peiper was so incompetent a military leader that he couldn't control his subordinates? Either he ordered the murders or he was an incompetent leader that couldn't control his own men.... and then lacked the balls to punish them afterward. Which version are you worshipping fanboy? Your hero the murderer, or your hero the failed coward?
@@AndyP998 Peiper himself said he was there and multiple survivors stated the firing began approx 2 minutes after the "senior officer" (Peiper) started down the road to Lignueville (where Peiper's men murdered anothe 8 American POWs). Add in that the vehicle that Peiper was in as he left the scene stated 6 months afterward that "Peiper ordered it". Or are you another fanboy trying to claim Peiper was such an inept military leader that his troops were out of control and Peiper was such a coward that he refused to punish them for committing war crimes. Which is it? You think he was in command of a unit that clearly committed a war crime.... or he was an inept failed leader that was also a coward?
What is most impressive is to see all those childish faces and to think that they were all ready to mercilessly kill anyone who came before him and that he was an enemy.
@benvolio mozart Peiper's S.S. men were said to have burned alive Russian civilians as reprisals for partisan attacks: Peiper and the Malmedy killers got commuted death-sentences because of the killing by U.S soldiers of unarmed S.S. men at the Dachau camp in 1945. Peiper got to live another 30 years before justice caught up with him in France ( that's assuming that he didn't stage his own death in order to start afresh somewhere far away).
@@jmy7622 Unless they did DNA tests on what was left of his body, there was no proof that he'd died in the "ambush". No-one-commies or any other group- has proved that they killed him.
@@jthrilla9147 -Porsche had to let him go. His notoriety was bad for sales. Then he worked at VW. Then became a military history translator. Lived in France and was murdered at age 61 when his house was set fire.
„Falls Sie mich attackieren, würde ich keinen Finger rühren. Falls Sie meine Männer attackieren - unfair und ungerecht - werden Sie mich auf den Barrikaden finden.“ (Joachim Peiper) GOTT MIT UNS
@@SA-yn6pg Trials by using GESTAPO-methods. This hadn´t got anything to do with justice! They tortured these men to get the wanted testimony. These men were Waffen-SS-soldiers. There was no order to kill POWs. The allies killed countless POWs, but nobody ever was accused or sentenced for killing german surrendered soldiers. Because they "deserved" it! Victors justice!
My Grandfather was taken prisoner by the Germans and had the utmost respect for them...although taken in 1942..he saw the dirty war in Italy and was amazed at how they took him prisoner 3 more times in civilian clothes..he was dismayed when I told him that veterans were not allowed to wear their decorations..(his words..”no matter what or who you fight for..a hero is a hero...”) He even stood up in the pub when the German National Anthem was played at football! He also said Pieper was a gifted soldier...he is portrayed as a ruthless man..but he was a leader of men..and revelled in it..he loved his men..and they him too..it is a travesty of history that he was murdered..where are these “democratic” people speaking about that? It’s alright when it suite them...
I'm American and the fact no one mentions is that we lined up 60 German POWs and gunned them down in reprisal is very interesting. Yes we did that its in the books.
@@paulbutterworthbillericay Especially for the Jews,Gypsies,gay's and so on it goes. I think that we can both agree that today's Germany is doing everything it can to welcome and have a diverse country! Did you check out the Bundes Archiv photo data base from that period,there are some interesting photographs.Have a great day.
@@compoturn1029 thanks for the links I have contacted the German Authorities for some research, I had a look good links, yep I do feel for the Jewish folk, this was personal to Hitler, I think it started when he was a runner in the trench, and was promised the Iron Cross, the corporal who ordered him was Jewish, and after when he survived the mission the other runner was killed I think, and went for his medal, the corpral said he didnt remember saying that, and Hitler challenged him saying sonething like its to be expected from a jew, so from those early beginnings it stuck in his mind, others who are like minded and you have danger, and blame all the countries problems on the Jews, and still people pick on them, I personally have no issue with them, I lived for a while in hostels when back packing, they were a good laugh
@@paulbutterworthbillericay This agency has records of people who served in the German army. They can supply information (if they have it) regarding rank ,and where they served. www.dd-wast.de/en/home.html Deutsche Dienststelle (WASt): Home www.dd-wast.de › ... Personal documents of military origin are kept in various departments of the Federal Archives. ... Berlin-Reinickendorf identifies evidence of war captivity of German soldiers, assists in ... civil servants, employees and workers of the Wehrmacht,. Personal documents of military provenance until 1945 Here you will find above all information on documents which used to be kept at the former Deutsche Dienststelle (WASt) and the former Zentralnachweisstelle (ZNS). Since 1 January 2019, the German office (WASt) has been transferred to the Federal Archives. The statutory tasks continue to be carried out under the umbrella of the Federal Archives. For this purpose, a separate department has been established in the Federal Archives in Eichborndamm, in Berlin Reinickendorf.
surviving witness Ivan Kiselev, who was 14 at the time of the massacre, described the killings at the villages of Yefremovka and Semyonovka on 17 February 1943. On 12 February Waffen-SS troops of the LSSAH occupied the two villages, where retreating Soviet forces had wounded two SS officers. In retaliation, five days later LSSAH troops killed 872 men, women and children. Some 240 of these were burned alive in the church of Yefremovka. ...when Sturmbannführer Jacob Hanreich was captured south of Falaise in France and interrogated by the Allies, he stated that Peiper was "particularly eager to execute the order to burn villages". Hanreich had previously served with Leibstandarte but was with SS Division Hitlerjugend at the time of his capture.[46] The blowtorch became an unofficial symbol of the unit and was painted on the battalion's vehicles. ....Kampfgruppe Peiper was eventually declared responsible for the deaths of 362 prisoners of war and 111 civilians. www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=Standartenfuehrer+Peiper
Hardly a fair trail. Jochem Peiper looks like a broken man sitting in that chair. As if all of his ideals, all of his bravery and sacrifices for his patriotism were for nothing. Didn't he say that his life was over? What a horribly sad thing to say? He was once a man of power. A man who led his men through many battles. And many claim he was a brilliant strategist yet here he is being tried for a massacre many claim he was not responsible for. Didn't he say that his regiment
If the germans would have won the war what do you think they would have done?? For every German soldier that was killed they would kill a hundred civilians, just to those villages they wiped off the maps. .
Wow, you call putting Nazis on trial injustice and vengeance, outstanding piece of moral gymnastics. There is a big difference between a show trial and showing a trial, people don't get found innocent at show trials, lots of nazis and collaborators were found not guilty or received short sentences, indeed many of the 'victims' of these 'show trials' went on to serve in West German government. If you want to see what a show trial is, check out Roland Freisler or the white rose trials, they are perfect, tick all the boxes.
@Rich oh dear, arrogantly ignorant people are like a gift that keeps on giving and you are that lovely gift.😘. Ok, Nazi(National Socialist German Workers' Party) was simply an analogy to Sozi(Sozialdemokrat or Social Democrat party), only members/followers, ie you, referred to the National Socialist German Workers' Party as the National Socialists, their enemies just use good old, death to them all, Nazi. Got it, Nazi? What a baffoon you are.
So much time wasted asking these German soldiers who were arrested and on trial whether they were German and whether they were German soldiers. I see that there was a s much bull shit back then as there is now.
There were alot of people who werent german who fought or did acts for the nazis . Almost every muslim country in the Africa campaign and parts of the European theater. The asking if they were part of the german army is just for the record
Awkward for the prosecutors when they knew the Allies had killed surrendering Germans in larger numbers than at Malmedy. Victors write the history books.
for all these people who write about these unfortunates, remember that not even one was hanged and that the last to come out was Peiper in 56,so for civilian killers it's not bad!!
US troops have executed German prisoners as well...my cousin’s mother convinced a bunch of young SS who were firing from her house over the river at the US troops To surrender...the Americans lined them up against a wall of the village and shot them.. they were 17 or 18 years old It happened in a small Alsatian village near the Rhine river,she couldn’t forget it ,felt herself guilty of their death
It happened more than people would imagine. Americans executed many German prisoners trying to surrender. Then people's attitudes change to "well they deserved it," after they just finished condemning the Germans for doing the exact same thing. But, the winners of wars write the history books, and our history books don't mention Americans doing that so it can't be true. What a joke!!
Piper and his men were soldiers, front fighters, not war criminals. All of them have been horribly tortured. All of them had smashed and destroed testicles, but they resisted to tell the lies, the allied prepared for them. Tough men! The american conquerers are hypocrites! They commited all those war crimes which germans were condamned for. I know the building in Schwäbisch Hall, were Peiper and his men were daily tortured. People outside could hear their cries. All of these trials are a joke for me, it was the victors revenge, nothing else.
@@lacertabilineata9337 Peiper was indeed a war criminal (and his men were certainly) - he was primarily a (top) administrator of the Holocaust and the death camp system, also slave labour, deportations, land, business and property theft. He did some soldiering too, to a much lesser extent, during which time his troops were responsible for multiple targeted attacks on civilians and their property, not to mention the wholesale slaughter of surrendered Soviet soldiers. It's interesting how during the footage here not one of them shows a single sign, physical or psychological, of having been " horribly tortured." You do realise Diefenthal had a leg amputated in combat something like a year before this tribunal hearing!? Are you an ignoramus, an idiot, a liar or some combination of the foregoing? The SS Colonel freely, openly admitted, outside of the tribunal and the investigation leading to it, that his troops committed the Malmedy massacre. The LAH, to which these men belonged, was committing war crimes, of murder, against POW's from the commencement of hostilities and for over 5 years. Prior to that, in '34, it was solely responsible for a massacre of innocent Germans and also involved in well known crimes in '38. The LAH was trained in the grounds of the Dachau concentration camp. There is not one piece of proof that these men were bashed, much less tortured. In fact, there's alot of evidence they were well treated while in custody. The SS officers were even given private cells, all with ensuites. I really do not buy at all into the story that 74 defendants were all brutally sterilised. Here's a little hint for you: cries from a prison do not equal torture, nor even physical abuse by the captors. Would you please highlight the difference between "smashed" and "destroed"[sic] testicles"? It seems you're just thoughtlessly plagiarising some Nazi apologist text . Seeing many of them confessed both during the investigation and tribunal hearings it would be intriguing for you to elaborate on how they "all" "resisted to tell the lies, the allied prepared for them. Tough men!" In fact alot of those guys were so clearly guilty they did not even enter pleas.
@Baz Bazdad My mother lived near Schwäbisch Hall, where this military prison was. She once showed me the building, telling me that this was the US-military prison, where the prisoners got tortured horribly. An old man who was living there told her, that in these times people outside of the building could hear the prisoners yelling and screaming every day. Many years later I saw the film "Über Galgen wächst kein Gras". In this documentary the description of the torture and the manner of "interrogation" fits a 100% of what my mother (who is absolutely unpolitical!) told me. In that film they mentioned, that nearly all of the men had destroyed testicles as a result of repeated beatings. You can see the documentation on youtube. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-R2CXYO8Qybg.html
@@lacertabilineata9337 Cry me a fucking river. You are full of crap. Peiper later had his sentence commuted and he got cush jobs with Porsche and VW. At no time did he act like a torture victim. Then this psychopath thought he could retire in anonymity in France. Fortunately for the world the locals found out who he was and snuffed him. Good riddance.
