MAMAMOO Hwasa - Diet & Binge Cycle 2014 - 2022 

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stupid hosts

i feel like people arent that educated on binge eating tho. They think youre trying to be quirky, but in reality you literally cannot stop eating/craving food no matter how much you want to stop

even the people in the comments of that video do not realise that it's binge eating and call it "a vibe", "relatable" or "quirky" it's actually concerning

@@ngndnd Yup like as someone who deals with it I will literally be crying wanting to stop but my body just like cant.

It's like saying to someone who is not super pretty "omg you're so brave for showing your face like that! I could never do that!" Exactly what you said, a backwards compliment... They're basically saying "you're ugly" or "you're fat" smh

Yes like I get trying to hype up your fave but it got too much with Hwasa. Girl can't live a day without fans and the media constantly reminding her she's not like everyone else. That would really wear me down or irritate me even if I did love myself.

Exactly! And what confuses me is that Hwasa is in no way shape or form fat AT ALL and I'd die to have her body shape, so when these "fans" say those kind of backhanded compliments like that I'm just shocked. I know she may be seen differently in kbs for whatever reason but in american beauty standards she's literally perfect. She's perfect all around, perfect body, face, voice, personality and those so called fans need to wake tf up and realize that.

Who says that though? It's usually your brave for being yourself in a society where you are extremely pressured to look and act like someone you aren't. I've literally never seen any comments like that about her, it's either prisse for her confidence or jealousy. If anything it's them saying they can't because of their lack of confidence but I've been a fan since the beginning and have never seen anything like that.

Especially when an idol has gained weight then fans assume that they are happier and healthy and just give those idols such backward compliments

Just because they are idol, does not mean they are not* also human. Hwasa been subject of lots of criticism. It's almost impossible not to feel bad about yourself if anyone was in her shoes. Her recent appearances on live concerts with mamamoo, I can tell she's insecure, not confident, seem to always be fixing up her hair or clothes between songs.

@@TheTruthHurts6666 Yes I know but some people are naturally confident and I didn't know she received all this hate. It's so sad...

true 😞

How is that binge eating? It’s a normal meal…

its also so sad how the company were clearly taking advantage of how those mukbangs that went viral. they literally made her eat a lot but still expect her to diet. and its not like she was eating a healthy meal. she was eating fast food and when you eat a lot of fast food your body craves it.

That's just how it is in Asian countries, they do not take mental health serious and that's why South Korea has one of the --if not-- the highest suicide rate

and the fact that if they don't reach their standards and expectation they would really put you on a pedestal and calling them ugly, telling them to lose weight is so unhealthy. and I'm not surprised by the amount of suicide rate in Korea is really concerning.

@@eunheS that award goes to Japan but Korea definitely has some high rates of depression.

Yeah that part was actually disturbing to watch, I don't think she laughed at all, ironic thing is that she knows what she wants to do and how she wants to live but just can't because of the society she is in. It's honestly amazing how these companies can contact her for ads and stuff and then try to get her to be something other than what made them want to contact her in the first place. Also the company makes her think she has to bend to these pressures. I honestly think she will be the next to leave RBW.

Really?? What country are YOU from for you to be spewing such xenophobic and bigoted vitriol toward another nation? You’ve clearly NEVER been to SKorea nor any Eastern Asian country and you have very little respect toward other countries and their cultures. Really though? You’ve never seen a country excused disordered eating??? Soooo you’re just going to conveniently ignore the US and Hollywood blatantly ignoring celebrities’ issues with eating disorders? Actually it’s almost better when they do ignore it because when they don’t, they’re promoting it by splashing photos of emaciated starlets all over every magazine cover without any type of educational articles within the magazine to actually help anyone. You’re just going to ignore the Nicole Ritchies and the Lindsey Lohans back when being a 00 was in. Now what’s in is an exaggerated hip and butt right? So all these women running to put some chemical sludge inside their asses to look deformed is okay according to you right…because at least they’re heavier and not thin. Everything is justified in Hollywood right? It’s okay that literally EVER OTHER celebrity in Hollywood has a CONFIRMED eating disorder or drug addiction or mental illness …it’s just a problem when OTHER NATIONS and their entertainment industries have a few individual cases (literally a handful out of THOUSANDS of idols across DECADES of Kpop). That is the definition of xenophobia…of bigotry. I am so sick and tired of seeing Westerners bash, berate, and devalue other nations for this and that when those exact things are occurring in YOUR OWN COUNTRY but ten times worse..yet y’all neeeever write these “concerned” righteous comments about the US…about Hollywood…about the UK…right?? EVERY nation has its positives and negatives and EVERY entertainment industry will hold within it some level of pressure because it is an extremely difficult thing to be a public figure and known by millions … however it is NOT okay for you ignorant bigots to spew your xenophobia about nations you’ve never been to, cultures you clearly know NOTHING about. Mental illness wasn’t even a topic you discussed just a decade ago in the US…the US is a liberal nation. So why tf do you expect a CONSERVATIVE nation to undergo changes over night if it took a liberal country this long to start discussing the topic of mental illness?? Celebrities in Hollywood were made fun of for their mental breakdowns as recently as 2008? 2010?? Britney Spears, anyone?? Amanda Bynes?? Robert Downey Jr?? I can go onnnn and onnnn. Yet you’re going to sit there hating on another nation you’ve never stepped foot in? Please learn some TOLERANCE for other cultures. Learn to respect how other nations do things…they DO NOT need to answer to anyone nor change their ways to suit Western ideals, period. Xenophobes need to change. Y’all need to change your approach and stop judging other cultures so recklessly without even bothering to fully understand them or experience them even a tiny bit…even through some (much-needed) research. Hopefully this wakes you tf up. Who says things like that …in 2022… “what is wrong with THEM?” When referring to another country. That is pure bigotry. It’s 2022 guys…y’all have everything that you need at your fingertips in order to educate yourselves. There is no excuse for this level of ignorance.

i think cause korea seems to normalize starving and binge eating when their "diet" is over so they've probably all experienced this and even think it's funny when it's not 🥲

What makes it more disappointing is that one of the hosts on that show played a gymnast that suffered from bulimia/binge eating in Weightlifting Fairy Kim Book Joo, so if anyone would know she should, but they're all still smiling and laughing like it's nothing. Feel so sad that Hwasa had to go through all this.

Lowkey if you watch this in an awkward setting it would deffo make you laugh at first but if you think about it more in depth its a very disheartening scene

when she was binge eating i could see myself in her; the pain and guilt during a binge episode is excruciating

someone can be our inspiration and struggle with the same things we do. I am so happy for you, recovery is the best decision you make, EVERY DAY. I’m sending you love and strength.

23:49 thats your reply right there, she hates being force fo love her self love image

@@jjba3571 yeah this was more so a thought before watching the video since she always tries not to seem like she's not struggling. But like I thought, the pressure to always love yourself is still quite high

With all due respect, I’ve just never understood these types of comments. Why would someone else’s suffering comfort you in any way? Why would the knowledge that a successful beautiful individual having mental illness problems…comfort you? Why not stop comparing yourself to public figures and focus on your own treatment and hopeful recovery? Idk I just wouldn’t wish depression on anyone and seeing anyone, including public figures, suffering from it doesn’t make me feel good that oooh even a successful celebrity can have it too (because …obviously anyone can) or that oooh I’m not alone (because the knowledge that your misery has company or that actually you’re the only one in fact with this ailment

@@krisuler7734 i think at least part of it stems from having a flawed view of myself, and seeing someone who i have a positive regard of experience struggles that i empathize with helps to humanize myself, as my low self esteem makes me view myself as less than a human. it actually is a bit selfish and a bit dark, hence why i said "strangely comforting". i think another part of it comes from seeing another person go through something similar to you can help make your reflecting easier. it helps me compare how i was before to how much progress i've made today. selfish? probably. but i don't think it's harmful towards hwasa either. also thank you! i've had a very good past week of progress in my recovery

I completely agree!

Please do an update on Itzy Ryujin

update on ryujin please?

Please do nayoung from lightsum or Wonyoung from ive

@L E V I L U V I E i think a video already exists on Wheein…also i dont mean to be sassy or anything lol 😊😊but what did you mean by “i don’t know why but it doesn’t seem healthy to me” when referring to her yo-yo dieting?? Of course it’s unhealthy lol 🤔🤔🫣🫣🧐 trust your instincts and pursue research in order to answer these types of questions. It’s clearly an unhealthy way of eating. I hope you will read up on it further ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻

i don’t understand why so many people judge how healthy an idol is based on their weight. nobody knows what’s going on behind the scenes and why they’re at that weight, whether underweight, average, or a bit bigger than the standard

i think this channel's creator clarified a while ago they don't plan to make a video about wonyoung since she barely mentions her diet or eating habits on camera. i'm also very concerned about her weight dropping more and more each time, but honestly i think it's better to not make a video that would be purely speculation.

@@northrnstar very true, and understandable. though there are clips of when she does “eat” on camera, she takes such small and delicate bites, might as well just be crumbs. i really hope she starts taking better care of herself 😔

@@northrnstar finally someone else that notices Johnny. actually got attacked a while back when i first started noticing his weight loss. people tend to get blindsided by the fact that he still stays toned up with exercise, but you can see it in his face a lot. idk maybe because he's my bias, so im always looking ? lol anyway, great suggestion list on general !

@@vip5hawol I think Johnny lost a lot of weight during C*VID. Rather than it being him on a diet I think it's just his natural body, when you look at his trainee days he looks more like he does now. I think he struggles more with the high intake of calories to bulk rather than getting lean. But yes he has definitely lost weight.

Yesung from Super Junior would be interesting, his diet is infamous

I really really hope she didnt read them. I feel sick just reading it.

This

Yes

But what was the weight before and after? And how long did it take to lose? Because it didnt schock me visually so I am so confused by this

@@gabdongipark He lost weight very quickly in 2019, it was a shock

@@Maria-ed3jo i only stan them since April

Huhhh?? What on earth are you spewing? Who has a dead fish face?! How is it a TREND in Kpop…an industry where performances are very important and idols practice their facial expressions lol 🙄🙄🙄 Your face is just as important as your choreography and singing for your overall performance in Kpop. Please stop spewing random vitriol like this…especially when it has absolutely no backing or proof…like AT ALL. 🤡

How is that trendy omg. Korea crazy. It wasn’t hwasas body that stood out to me it was her face and facial expressions 😍l love a queen that gives a show !

Stop bashing others to praise your faves

I agree. Even at her 'heaviest', she is definitely very slim.

Oh yes. I cringe so hard when i hear Soyeon hating on vegetables. I like salads and vegetables, they make huge part of our diet so i don't know how people can hate it in general. I know babying idols is cringe and creepy, but lowkey I want to learn korean just to tell Soyeon with proper grammar to eat her fking veggies, cause they can be delicious (and ofc nutricious) lmao

I think Moonbyul said she's quite chubby before debut & her metabolism changed after extreme diet. Nowadays she doesn't need to do too much diet.

YEah exactly. I hate how moomoos are like "Oh yeah mamamoo is such a healthy group and RBW is such a great company" No. I'm a moomoo myself but i can aknowledge the fact, that they're not that different from other groups. And i hate how RBW is praised after what they've done to Esna

@@zosiexofficial who is esna ? And no, i hate rainbow bridge , they were the ines who initially tolde them fat , talented but fatb

@@jjba3571 esna is an artist that was under them who was mistreated if i remember correctly

@@zosiexofficial Well then rejoice! After the bad promotions they’ve given Mamamoo the past few years I can tell you that no one is praising the company anymore. Moomoos hate RBW. I’ve always felt bad for the Esna situation but the truth was, it didn’t really affect Mamamoo so moomoos didn’t care. No that it affects Mamamoo though…

Hecc, Hwasa's contract expires 6 months *before* Wheein's. Byul's and Solar's contracts expire a year after Hwasa's. No one loves Mamamoo more than Mamamoo so I think no matter what they do, they'll still interact publicly, and as the fan song goes, I'm "never letting go"!!!

Yeah, I also noticed Hwasa isn't her usual shining self during these Mic On promotions. I hope she gets better.

Yeah. Why do they want to hate on Solar so bad? Her and Wheein especially have a ton of small, more obscure scandals in Korea that just don’t make sense to me. The ‘rainy day’ situation and the strawberry jam song…

@@lia_anh me too I’m confused on why the scandals are considered scandals. I understand that maybe from Korea’s point of view it’s a bit much but it’s really not. These girls are so talented and live their fans. They don’t deserve any of this.

Live their fans ***

@@Ssensational_ the strawberry jam song is weird tho so you can’t expect people to just be fine with it, especially if the singer is not liked in Korea

In my dreams, mamamoo leave rbw ent. and get into a good company where they are promoted I really want each of them to be happy, it hurt me to watch this video, it hurt me to know that they suffer 4 dancers, 4 singers, 4 visual artists, 4 queens. I love them incredibly

Me too, you are not alone! I have a few friends that also struggle with overeating and we talk about it all the time :( it's so hard to eat responsibly where I live because the culture really enables you to overeat as "self-love" My family and boyfriend really don't help.

@@pinkpanadalove2387 Sorry didn't see your response until now! Glad your friends are at least supportive :) This whole "Overeating= selflove" thing is so wrong... Such an extreme just like "extreme diet=self love". Both are not good. Hope you stay healthy and happy 💜

They need better dietitians there is no way she should be starving herself. That was grim to watch. I hope she cares for herself this is not healthy

"super feminine"

​@8luvbug Yead as in fitting the stereotype of what is feminine, and commonly found on eomrn, curvy hips etc, have you heard of an hourglass figure? Or looking like a Coca-Cola bottle? Of course there are women not lookibg like that, me included, but lets face it there are not many men built that way are there?!

​@@NotAnotherKuromithis is such a sad mindset

@@vee.3029 Acknowledging human biology is not a mindset

​@@vee.3029having curved is considered feminine lol wtf is ur problem

when u have no job u have all the time in the world

THATS WHAT IM SAYING! She looked HELLA GOOD!🤨 I Was shocked reading those horrible comments.

Same. people are mad and sensitive it's getting awful.

"looks healthy" but she wasn't

Literally same. However, not everything is lost and eventually we'll start to heal. What I'm doing in case it helps you too is sticking to 3 meals a day and copying them from youtubers or having my family prepare them. I even made a discord group for this

​@@inmyspringIs there some way I could join the Discord group? I would love to be able to talk to some people who understand how stressful binging is

@@kath9088 my user is oopsol. Add me and I'll send you the invite! I hope we don't feel so alone now that we have someone to talk to

I don’t know how helpful this is, but what really helped me was keeping a regular eating routine. Three meals a day and not trying to deprive myself of anything. It’s trying to change your mentality so that your brain and body don’t think you’re in a situation where food is scarce. If you’re worried about eating too many “bad” foods then thinking about what you can add to it helps. Like if you want to eat a Nutella sandwich then having a banana on the side, it helps to keep you nourished. If that makes sense. It’s easier to add things to your diet than to take away, plus I think it creates a healthier mindset. Also, I’ve found than cutting down on social media and avoiding body checks as much as possible helps with your relationship with your body (and then in your diet, especially at the beginning). It takes time and it’s hard work but it is possible get out of the cycle and have a healthy relationship with food. Another thing that helped me when my binges were triggered by stress or boredom was taking up crocheting. Gave my hands something to do and my brain something to concentrate on. Anything that keeps your hands busy and mind engaged works, especially if it has a calming effect.

Karina is very slim so she still fits the standard if she gains weight. Jongho is the least popular Ateez member while Yeonjun is the most popular in TXT. Also Jongho is mostly loved for his vocals and styled in longer clothing while Yeonjun's looks play a fairly big part in his popularity and he gets more revealing outfits.

what are you on about, that makes no sense, how are they even involved in this?

They definitely play a role in their idols relation to food but mot everything is their fault or because of them

What proof of this do you have? Mamamoo has said themselves they are never forced to diet, the only time they were pushed to do it was before debut.

@@aspannas even making them do it predebut is messed up. Just because it was before they debuted doesn’t erase the damage it did.

@@aspannas Mamamoo aren't honest, half the time they say they aren't forced, but they keep releasing new diet videos every year and endorsing diet products. If they're so pro-weight gain why did Moonbyul try to scare Swan from purple kiss into losing weight just because she's an "idol"? It's really sad to see they don't actually do what they preach.

​@@shanlie3505🙌 moomoos don't wanna hear it, but this is facts.

I think it's healthy rebound, she looks stabilized to the weight she was during VIVACE now during Honey or Spice