Mammotion Luba vs. Husqvarna Automower 450 EPOS 

I have Luba on three acres it easily takes care of it all. some sections I have it doing twice a week and I would say it's resting on its base 80% of the time still. I have had Luba out 750 ft from the base station no problem! tomorrow I'm just going to start driving it down the street and see how far it goes because I'm curious now 😂

Thanks guys, for the review. I have been struggling over the thoughts of purchasing a robotic mower. I hire a lawn service to care for my lawn. I'm not sure which has more stress: fighting the weather, heat and cost doing it myself -or depending on a business that is here one day and out of business the next season. I'm an IT man by trade and very I'm difficult and demanding when it comes to expecting the best from technology. I mean seriously! We're in 2023 and we still can't get a 100% robotic lawnmower. Yet, Space-X can return a rocket back to its landing pad! Thanks again for the great information.

Just brought Mammotion Luba to mow a remote (parents) garden, have been using Bosch Indego, whilst it is ok, have cut the perimeter wire on a few occasions and it stopping at a slightest bump and it's inability to restrict areas without wire has caused many issues. Your reviews and others have given me confidence in this has been the right choice.

Great Video- I bought a Luba and I would point out that you can define any angle cut in 10deg increments. So diamond cut and everything in-between. Now I don't own a 450 EPOS but for me the 4WD was clutch. I have hills and ruts in my yard so I can say with confidence that it wouldn't do the job. Maybe their 435 might do the job but it is really expensive. Luba is out cutting right now for me.

My luba is great when it works. Ive got it on about 6000m2 at the moment and it handles it no issue.

The future looks exciting! I have my eye on the Yarbo robot as it has interchangeable head units. Initially it has mower, snow blower, and leaf blower head units with other head units teased for the future. I look forward to your review.

I have a Luba and love it. 2 things: 1. I’m not sure how much the RTK station actually does. I’ve had it on the other side of my house no where in site of the station and it still does amazing, I’m assuming just direct connection to gps above? 2. Have y’all had trouble with it docking on the charger sometimes? It’ll throw a message about the infrared sensor being dirty sometimes and I have ti clean it off when it’s dusty. I’m very happy with the last update they just rolled out!

Around here the Husqvarna has 5 year warranty. Only limitation is that it needs to be serviced by the dealer once a year. Theres also the winter holiday for the mower (aka pay money for the dealer for stashing it away in winter). They usually do the servicing and inspections in the winter.

A Very well done and thorough video. I appreciate this ability to translate technical concepts to digestible takeaways for the average Joe. Bravo, Marty and Seth. Keep up the good work.

Great video. Thanks. We have big areas currently serviced by Husqvarna, Ambrogio, Bosch and Worx, and are looking to switch to wire-free. This and your answers to comments are a huge help.

Excellent content! Thank you for putting this together.

I am very particular as to how my grass is cut, and would like to give you a couple of things to consider in future evaluations. My grass is tall fescue, and I mow it at 3". It thrives with this height and has never required aeration in the last ten years. Our house is on a corner lot with the sidewalk and street corner rounded, not squared at the intersection. I cut parallel to the sidewalk so the stripes follow the "bend" in the sidewalk at the corner. I use a Toro battery-powered walk-behind mower. Here are the things for you to consider: I always cut the edge first by walking along the walks with the left side of the mower on the walk and the right side on the grass. That way, when the blade first contacts the grass, it is pushing it back into the grass, not toward the sidewalk. This helps keep the grass upright along the sidewalk, not laying down on the walk. Can the mower be taught to cut along the walkways first as I do before cutting the rest of the yard? Secondly, you talked about these mowers handling hills. I cut along the side of the hill, not up and down the hill, as my path is parallel to the sidewalk. How well do these mowers perform staying on line in a hillside situation? I wish I could send you a picture to make this hillside clearer for you. Thank you.

I have two of the wired 450x Automowers covering about 3 acres. Unfortunately the durability has proven not what I expected. Hoping to investigate the Luba option next year.

To make a long story short, I have had a 450 ex auto mower for the past five years or so and have absolutely loved the mower itself. Unfortunately my boundary wire keeps being cut by rodents, construction, workers, cable companies, etc.. recently my cable company came out and installed brand, new fiber, chopped up the mower wire and destroyed the entire unit by leaving live wires exposed over the winter. They also spliced some of my broken boundary wire into some other cable lines. Can’t figure out why they would do that. I will be getting a brand new 450 XH epos mower installed tomorrow and I’m so excited to ditch the boundary wire. I will be making a full review video just like I made on my 450 X I’m also super excited to know I’ll be able to cut my grass at a higher height and not having to scalp it any longer there are little to no good reviews of the epos mower in a residential scenario so my video will be one of the first and I am purchasing my mower from autmow Just like I purchased my original mower from them. Now I just have to sue the contractors that destroyed my mower for $$$$$$

I bought a Segway Navimow. Really happy with it so far

3.5 acres with 2x 550H EPOS. Challenging terrain with steep slopes and shallow limestone. Next month will be one year. Systematic mowing is awesome, as they mowing my entire yard 2x a week.

Hi, Excellent content! I have been trying to decide between the Luba 2 10000H and the Husqvarna Automower 450XH EPOS. Have about 1.8 mowable acres of mixed rye, bluegrass and fescue spotted with weeds. The property is a rectangle with three tiers with a gentle slop between each tier. Have a few gardens, maybe 30 evergreen trees, and eight Maples to mow around. Most of the trees are around the edge fo the property and line the driveway. My concerns: 1. The cut quality -- The Luba has 8 blades over a 15 inch swath whereas the Husqvarna has three blades over nine inches and they are somewhat covered by a safety disc. I would think the Luba would deliver a better cut based on blade density. Then again, the Luba is heavier and smashes some of the grass down before mowing. What has been peoples’ experience with cut quality? 2. Maneuverability - The Luba has four independently motored wheels. The Husky has two independently motored wheels and two coasters… Clearly the Luba is more cumbersome to turn around. I’d assume the Husky would maneuver better around the gardens and trees. Experiences? 3. Battery lifecycle -- The Luba weighs 44 pounds whereas the Husky is 30+. Logically pushing all the extra weigh should use more power and a softer lifetime. Spending this kind of $$, I’d like something that will last as long as possible. 4. Viability --- Husky has been around longer. Luba is relatively new. But, Luba’s products are getting good reviews… Anyway… Would appreciate your comments about the first three concerns.

Thanks for the info guys! Very much appreciated! :^)

Great comparison, I look forward to further videos like this, especially with the EcoFlow Blade and Segway Navimow

For me, when considering new hi-tech products like this at these price points, warranty is a big deal. If there's no guarantee after a year or two, then the product is a lot less attractive. Who is going to be able to fix one of these things if it breaks in three years? If I spend $3-6K on a tool, I need it to last for 10+ years. It may very well last that long, but its hard to part with that much money for something that is still a gamble.

One comparison I was hoping you could share: how close can each model cut to a structure like a fence or a curb? Is one a clear advantage over the other?

Sehr gute Vorstellung, besten Dank.

White plastic often becomes brittle after months in the sun. What UV protection is in the Luba mower? Also, are there replacement batteries or RTK modules available?

I typically my sprinklers out all the time on a schedule to water my small lawn. Would the luba be able to do over the hoses without breaking them?

Does the reference station need clear line-of-sight to the mower? What if it’s in the backward and the mower is in the front yard?

Have you found a good spot on Luba to stick an airtag?

Which one of these would be best suited in a location near the sea. Alloy and plastic is preferable as metal components would be prone to rust.

Question on the RTK. Does it have to have line of sight to the mower or just stay within the distance specs of the unit? Reason for the question is the RTK will not have line of sight on the far side of the house.

Hi Martin and Seth, Thanks for your sharing, could you make more videos to test Luba, I am so happy to watch this series videos, and related videos have a goods views. Keep up the good work, I will support you bros.

What about buried power cables? Great review!

Very helpful review. Thank you.

Have you guys heard anything about potential delays with the Toro robotic mower? Spring 2023 seems unlikely at this point.

I like the 2 you got there. Husqervana is a solid brand reputation for robot lawn mowers. But expensive for plastic Luba is a kickstarter so not sure if that’s an investment I’m willing to make. Toro later this year is coming out with a random navigation so that’s a no. Ambrogio is random pattern so no but it’s built like a BEAST 🐂 Eco flow looks like it has some amazing features. Ecovacs goat 1 isn’t even an option cause I live in 🇺🇸 but maybe? What are your thoughts? Which would you choose to mow your lawn (no perimeter mowers allowed!)

Why do so many people love these Manmotion mowers, but the reviews on Amazon are mediocre at best? Is Manmotion going to issue a recall or send out parts to fix the IPX6 recall? That was a great selling point that ended up being hype. Neither mention how close to the side the blades go. Also, on the Luba, on your autmow site specs it says the Luba lowest cutting height is 1.2 inches, but this review said 0.9 inches. This has a 16 inch mowing width. How many inches does this typically overlap on the next pass? How about cutting speeds on various types of grass? I have Zoysia which is a dense turf type. Would you be required to mow slower? How would this effect the number of mows before replacing the blade? The Luba is a great product and I'll keep an eye on it for future upgrades. I'd like a future version that can mow lower. Thanks for the great video!

If you don't have internet at the location, is it possible to monitor Luba via the app?

Thank you for the video. I'm curious to hear which cuts closer to the edge? Trying to avoid having to strim edges.

Super job with the video. I was almost ready to make a purchase for the Luba but 2.6” max cut height is way too short for my preference! I hope they update that

You guys covered almost everything. The only thing I wished you mentioned was how long does it run before needing to be charged and how long does it take to charge. What I'd also like to know is, is the battery permanently attached to the mower, or can you remove it? Although I don't like my Worx Landroid L, one thing I DO like about it is that you can remove the battery if it gets to the point where it's no longer holding a charge well. I grow turf type tall fescue grass, so I'd have to go with the Husqvarna tall cut version. Honestly, it likes being cut at 4", so 3.6" is already a tad low for it, especially when you get a number of 90F days in a row, or when you get a couple of weeks of no rain. But I LOVE the AWD of the Luba. If they'd sell a version that can cut at 4", I'd buy it today, even without the GPS security features.

i wonder if the luba have even wider cut if you remove the side guards underneath, they obstructed at least 2" of both sides.

Nice review, tnx. Have you some info about multiple mower collaboration on same yard? Ceers

Great explanation

Do you think Mammotion can add better security down the road with a software update if purchased now?

how does the Luba do on edges? Will I need to also keep a weed eater or does it handle it all?

Hi, have you reviewed the Luba 2 v Husqvarna yet please?

How about camera based mowers like Lawna, Conga, Worx Landroid Vision ? Would not that be simpler / more efficient solution as you would not need the GPS RTK stations? Are these any good?

Where do i get service and repairs for these mowers? Do i need to mail them in?

I believe a more appropriate model comparison would have been the Husqvarna 435X, which can handle a 65% slope.

Which have you preferred??? Which is better??

Which is the more reliable mower? Gets stuck/needs rescued least?

Could you do something in the way of a video on cleaning both mowers- some say you can use water, some say you should not.

I love my Luba. No problems

Ecoflow Blade sseems very well built.

Front yard to back yard there's a house in the way of the GSK transmitter and repeater - how do they handle a house being between the transmitter and the mower? PS - Spinning Death Blades ( 11:00 ) sounds like a great heavy metal band.

Have you compared the Luba 5k to the EcoFlow Blade? I'm on the fence. Blade has the sweeper which might give it an edge.

Wondering if the lubo will be able to keep away from the meter-highnl drops since my yard has several "levels" with drops between each level

Have you done a review on the EcoFlow Blade?

How does RTK works if you have a separate front and back yard, so you can cover only one of them with RTK? Is it possible to install two separate RTK transmitters on the different sides of the house?

Before buying luba companies product be sure and read there return and warranty for there product. also when watching videos, check to see if they get a commission if you use there link to buy one. they also use snail mail shipping letting the electronics get bounced around and mishandled by every 18 year old in the U.S. mine has been to 15 different locations in transit, and it is past where i live on the map. still waiting after 6 days. they seem to package there units well, but hard foam does not stop shock from transferring into the container/mower and everything else in the box. Printed circuit boards and there components do not like being jarred around. if my box is damaged i may just try the Yarbo mower with all its attachments.

I have Bermuda Tif-Tuff grass and how does each mower perform on Bermuda? I now cut every 3-4 days. Can both cut daily on the lowest cutting height?

Any thoughts on Ambrogio Twenty ZR vs Mammotion Luba?

Automower gets stuck if the front wheel dips into an inch of fall. It’s because of the tiny front wheels. Does luba with its beast wheels do better?

I wish Luba offered money-back guarantee. Cell signal is spotty in my yard and we have some trees so I’m concerned about it losing connection. For this reason I’m considering Landroid Vision, which has a 30 day money-back guarantee. I am concerned about having to lay magnetic strips with Vision, though, which seems a little like having to lay boundary wire. I guess it’s not as much work, since the islands “float”. Also prefer the configurable mowing patters that luba has.

I have a 2.25 acre lot. We have no cell phone reception and very poor Wi-Fi outside of the house. Our lot is rectangular with the house closer to one side than being in the middle. There are several areas that are fairly steep slopes, probably close to 40° angle that I either have to weed eat or use the push mower, my zero turn can’t handle it. Given all of that, which mower would you recommend? Not between the two that you talked about on the video but just in general.

I am curious about the Luba quality of cutting. It looks from the videos it is leaving chunks of grass so doesn't have a mulch function and the overall grass cutting is uneven. Hard to tell from videos so would appreciate an honest feedback

But one can buy a fairway kit for Husqvarna automowers that will allow one to cut the lawn extremely short but the Luba does not have that option. I keep my bermuda lawn at 1/2".

Does the RTK need line of sight? My backyard would be out of sight from where Im thinking of installing my RTK, also does the RTK need to be connected to wifi to work?

There is a Luba that cuts higher (4.0) vs. (3.6) for the Husq.

I would like to know which one goes over sticks better? I have a stupid tree that likes to shed sticks lol

I think you guys test the beta for future updates, I was wondering if you ever give feedback to Mammotion ( as being a autorise seller has more impact then customers). I love my Luba, but in the case that you do give feedback, 2 major features, validation of proper positioning when resuming the mowing after stopping because of bad positioning. Mine ends up in the neighbours lawn briefly but stops there when it realize its out of the working area or adding a feature to mark a zone safe tu return to work area automatically. And of course enhancing positioning with less satellites for the Luba itself, signal drops sometimes between 12-18, when it’s better above 20 as we know.

I bought 2 LUBA 5000 in the kickstart and as you know there were several problems in the first addition. I also no own a LUBA 2 10000. If you are indeed working with Mammotion please ask for the point to point mapping. I am on a 500X900 ft lot and drawing a straight line is not that easy especially with slopes.

What's the usage of the SIM card slot on the Mammotion Luba? I thought there was no 4G on it?

I would probably go with Luba, if they added a camera for obstacle detection. Because of this I will probably go with Blade. I have a dog a kid, both of them love to leave toys everywhere, even flat ones like a blanket, which wouldn't be detected by the ultrasound sensor on Luba. On the other hand I like the Luba is 4x4, even though my lawn is pretty flat, I think it gives it a better maneuverability. I wish we could have combination of both.

What about the after purchase service? I was told Mamotion is not that good... but it might be better nowadays.... (?)

I would have to say that no theft gps location on my $2500 auto mower would be a deal breaker

I’m excited for a wireless option. My property is only .3 acres total. Both the wireless options you reviewed are rated for 5 times that, is it overkill to get one of these? Are there any negatives to having a robot mower with much greater capacity to what you need mowed?

Any idea on battery life, that is how many charges it will hold over its lifetime?

I’m looking for detailed information on where the charging stations can be placed. All the images show the docking station on some edge of the yard. On either of these models, is it possible to define a passage so the docking station can be off of the grass 10 feet or so? I would like to place it somewhere out of sight. Or does it have to be within a mowing zone? Thanks

I have watched a few different comparison videos. I really like the Luba. The only thing that worries me is the fact that the grass still looks long, almost like it isn't cut. The grass doesn't look any different after the mower goes over it. The grass just looks like the wheels are flattening it. Is the cut nice and clean?

Little off topic, regarding your audio setup: I hear the left guy on the right side and vice versa.

my lawn is 1.72acres but take out the house and pool and driveway its less........wouldnt it be cheaper for use two Luba's instead of one 450? can the RTK support more than one Luba?

@AutmowRoboticMowing is it possible to place the dock for these mowers inside a garage or does the dock need to disembark directly to lawn?

When you are setting up these mowers do you just go round the edges, or do you have to do the whole lawn?

You guys getting your hands on Toro's Robo mower? Not a ton of info out on it yet, but I'm comparing it with Luba and EPOS

How is the max coverage determined? It seems like if you run it all the time I’m confused why the spec coverage is so low.

Any feedback using RTK in a wooded back yard?

Can you do a Luba v Kress RTK comparison please?

have you looked at the ecoflow blade?

No mention of the batteries? Lead-acid last 2 summers, LiPo last 5, LiFePo4 last 10, so it's important to know!

Is there a Mower that can handle a twice a week mowing schedule for a lawn in Pennsylvania?

Hello, Can you confirm for me that the Huqsvarna 450x Nera does systematic parallel line mowing from now on as standard? In this configuration, you confirm that it can mow an area of ​​2.5 acres rather than the 1.25 acres in random mowing? I have a plot of land of just under 2.5 acres to mow and would like to ensure that it is sufficient to handle this mowing area, without effort. Thanks for your feedback

What about Segway Navimow, what are your thoughts on that?

Great review and great mowers! I know that the Luba 5000 is meant to mow an area of up to 5000sqm, but could it be configured to have zones that add up to more than 5000sqm? or multiple zones of 5000sqm? or is there a software limitation to stop it doing an area larger than 5000sqm? Thanks again

What will be replacement battery costs for both mowers?

Will the Luba work for St Augustine grass?

Would love to test a Luba 5000 here in Canada

Anything that will cut high enough for my TTTF?

I mow 3 acres. Have another 5 at back of my property that I bush hog twice a year. I do mow a walkong path around the perimiter of the back 5 acres. Would the luba be able to mow that perimeter as well as my 2.5 to 3 acres?

Well done! Ya'll up for a review of a Greenzie-equipped mower?

Which one would you choose if given the choice?

How do you feel either of these units' GPS would handle large, mature shade trees? I would estimate I have shade covering about 25 to 30% of the yard. I also have a large old brick farmhouse with two outbuildings.