Thank you guys for your tests ! Will you test Mammotion Yuka (with sweeping system) and Dreame A1 (LIDAR system) ? a lot of excitation in Europe around these 2 also, that you didn't test yet. RG from France ;)
Segway? Can I stand on it and travel around town? Lol. Why is it such a challenge for robotic mowers to offer variable height cut EXACTLY the same as gasoline mowers? Not rocket science. But yet some seem to be very restricted or even offer multiple models to address different height ranges. Seems like a very poor design. Being aware of the number of available satellites and timing mow based on that would be a great feature for all of these mowers. Another smart feature would be to mow steep inclines at an angle, thus reducing the incline. A quality gyroscope and local storage of map would certainly help it run without GPS signal.
It works well when U take it out of the box after hours of mapping. Then a month later: the issue is Mammotion has no AI to deal with the variations in the SAT/LEO orbit congestion and firmware (becaue of SOC incorporation) updates are almost weekly as this product is not capable of positioning to the ever changing stratospheric environment and this reviewer is only reviewing the mechanics and simple electronics of the machine. Luba has no tech or customer support and I think even Amazon has dumped them as they are a over-hyped firm with now mower heritage. Avoid Mammotion like a skunk on your lawn as it is problematic and U spend more time troubleshooting this inferior positioning deice then mowing. Their RTK system is no up to the job and creeper U need 28 Sats to communicate with the RTK and Robot. A scam product, do not spend your hard-earned money on a product with no integrity or customer service which this reviewer dismisses as he knows they are not bona-fida. Forget the warranty as it is not supported once they have your money.
OK so you guys sell these and they go up a hill (as in their adds) - so what ! - I have a Luba2 - on my iOS app the user interface is really bad - there is nothing in the manuals that tell you how to use it, chat support line was fairly useless (I used my wait times to randomly touch icons and slowly figured out how to adjust settings) so it's like running MS-DOS which you guys look too young to remember. My local Autmow rep wanted me to buy a Kress at $17,000 for 4 acres (that's not happening) which includes $1,700 for REQUIRED installation - when I asked about the LUBA he said "good luck" - end of conversation. So now after abut 6 weeks I have it mowing fairly well but the the IR sesnor on the back gets dirty (of course - it's a mower) so it won't align with the charging station and charge, so I have to go wipe it clean and all is good until it gets dirty again. As SeanChYT notes below - this is like an add for their climbing abilities which few people likely need. IF the others have equally bad user interfaces for their apps - it would be great if y'all would cover that or I would suggest don't buy unless you have the time and ability to decipher the app.
I have purchased a Luba 5000 AWD and can honestly say it is absolute junk. It works for a few months and then the latest revs confuse it as it cannot intelligently decipher new satellite information and goes onto a positioning mode and does not leave the charging station after multiple hours of set-up. Luba has no telephone support (UNBELIEVABLE), and their chat line is on hold for 4 hours as this inferior product has so many dissatisfied customers with inoperable units. The chat service is the worst in the robotic business and they have no engineering capabilities. I got better service from 99% of my smart homme devices then this over-hyped neophyte company with no history or pedigree in the mower business. I am an engineer and can do many fixes but after 10 screenshots and 5 app feedbacks ..nada/ziltch from Mammotion. Hey forget about the BS of 2 year warranty as you will probably never get a RMA from them as they are truly a a non-starter for claiming to be a bona-fida mower firm. You will have a boat anchor in a short time. Believe me I learned the hard way, avoid Luba like a plague.
I have purchased a Luba 5000 AWD and can honestly say it is absolute junk. It works for a few months and then the latest revs confuse it as it cannot intelligently decipher new satellite information and goes onto a positioning mode and does not leave the charging station after multiple hours of set-up. Luba has no telephone support (UNBELIEVABLE), and their chat line is on hold for 4 hours as this inferior product has so many dissatisfied customers with inoperable units. The chat service is the worst in the robotic business and they have no engineering capabilities. I got better service from 99% of my smart homme devices then this over-hyped neophyte company with no history or pedigree in the mower business. I am an engineer and can do many fixes but after 10 screenshots and 5 app feedbacks ..nada/ziltch from Mammotion. Hey forget about the BS of 2 year warranty as you will probably never get a RMA from them as they are truly a a non-starter for claiming to be a bona-fida mower firm. You will have a boat anchor in a short time. Believe me I learned the hard way, avoid Luba like a plague.
Not to mention the awful customer service based out of China that takes days to respond if any and forget about returns and warranties. Even cancelling order takes several days if not over a week and they will charge close to 3 percent just to even cancel the order! Even US retailer like Walmart has return condition for Luba that says it can only be returned as long box is not opened and have to be in a new condition. Buyer beware!!!
@@nismokid My RTK is solid blue with issue positioning although it is reading 29 satellites and Mammotion cannot even rectify this problem after 2 weeks, and does not warranty their product and says it is 2 years - BS. This firm should be investigated for non-compliance of their claims and I even believe Amazon has dumped them. We were FOOLS to believe in their hype and it is sad that so many on You Tube still promulgate this firm which in IMHO is selling crap with no service or integrity.
How do you remove a stubborn bumper? Mine wont budge! Ive used an entire can of wd40 to attempt at removing the bumper. The beeping wont stop, continues to give a flase report of pathway to docking station isnt clear, or bumper collision alert, regardless neither aren't happening which my robot wot cut the grass until this stops!
Unfortunately WD40 does not help much with this issue, as the alluminum may have oxidized. *Note*: The following are just tips based on our experience, but before trying any of the below suggestions, please contact Mammotion for their authorized suggestions as it may affect your warranty status. Suggested options include Bicarbonate of soda, lemon/salt mixture, vinegar/salt mixture or other product designed to clean oxidized aluminum.
Before buying luba companies product be sure and read there return and warranty for there product. also when watching videos, check to see if they get a commission if you use there link to buy one. they also use snail mail shipping letting the electronics get bounced around and mishandled by every 18 year old in the U.S. mine has been to 15 different locations in transit, and it is past where i live on the map. still waiting after 6 days. they seem to package there units well, but hard foam does not stop shock from transferring into the container/mower and everything else in the box. Printed circuit boards and there components do not like being jarred around. if my box is damaged i may just try the Yarbo mower with all its attachments.
Before buying luba companies product be sure and read there return and warranty for there product. also when watching videos, check to see if they get a commission if you use there link to buy one. they also use snail mail shipping letting the electronics get bounced around and mishandled by every 18 year old in the U.S. mine has been to 15 different locations in transit, and it is past where i live on the map. still waiting after 6 days. they seem to package there units well, but hard foam does not stop shock from transferring into the container/mower and everything else in the box. Printed circuit boards and there components do not like being jarred around. if my box is damaged i may just try the Yarbo mower with all its attachments.
Awesome thank you! There are so many robotic mowers on the market right now and several more coming in the next year. It will be interesting to watch and see which companies survive and which fizzle away. As consumers, we benefit from the competition. While I have my eye on the Yarbo because of the interchangeable heads (snowblower), the price point may be it's ultimate doom. We shall see. While I prefer premium products and don't mind paying more, most people like to buy cheap stuff and then complain and toss their technology in a pile. Honest reviews and comparisons will help guide us all to make the best purchase for our home or job site.
Please do a video on how to set up and use FPV on Luba 2. Edit: Also show the cut quality and what the grass looks like at the turn spots for each mower. Thanks
The Mammotion Luba seriously sucks!!!! It is Chinese so..... I probably wouldn't have purchased it if I knew it was Chinese. I have always had bad experiences with Chinese Products. They never perform as stated by the company. They seem to always be about image but have no substance. I purchased one of these a year ago and it was difficult to set up but I eventually got it. There were many issues with this thing but I managed to work around them. Tech support was almost non existent. The only place to get support is chatting through their app and that is buggy and constantly loses connection. You have to wait for a tech to answer because they are constantly "experiencing a high volume of inquiries" and you have to wait in a queue that tells you your position in that queue. The queue can magically grow and your position moves backwards (like from 2 to 14). Once you get the chat with a tech, you can magically get disconnected when the suggested fixes don't fix anything and the problem proves the be more difficult than a restart. I figured maybe it was just new stuff and should get better with time and updates. Yeah right!! This was the situation when I purchased the unit a year ago. Now with all their upgrades it actually seems to have gotten worse. Now their GPS location system seems to vary by more than a foot and as much as two feet. In places where I had spotty location info a year ago now have no location fix at all. And yet they still have 22 to 27 co view of the satellites. The RTX is viewing the entire sky and sees 39-40 satellites. So if they can't get by with 50% or more co viewed satellites, the tech must be flawed. And don't get me started on the app. You have to use the phone app to do everything with this robot. The app started out clunky and just got retarded with each update. Side Note: This thing keeps an open connection to a Chinese server. A high security risk to have with a country that has vowed to hack the USA. This is a great idea but the execution is abysmal. It isn't getting better either; it just keeps getting worse. I don't know how to express my dissatisfaction with this product any better without starting to use bad language. So I'll stop here. Bottom line: If you want more headaches in your life, switch from manual mowing to this piece of crap robot!!!!
The Mammotion Luba seriously sucks!!!! It is Chinese so..... I probably wouldn't have purchased it if I knew it was Chinese. I have always had bad experiences with Chinese Products. They never perform as stated by the company. They seem to always be about image but have no substance. I purchased one of these a year ago and it was difficult to set up but I eventually got it. There were many issues with this thing but I managed to work around them. Tech support was almost non existent. The only place to get support is chatting through their app and that is buggy and constantly loses connection. You have to wait for a tech to answer because they are constantly "experiencing a high volume of inquiries" and you have to wait in a queue that tells you your position in that queue. The queue can magically grow and your position moves backwards (like from 2 to 14). Once you get the chat with a tech, you can magically get disconnected when the suggested fixes don't fix anything and the problem proves the be more difficult than a restart. I figured maybe it was just new stuff and should get better with time and updates. Yeah right!! This was the situation when I purchased the unit a year ago. Now with all their upgrades it actually seems to have gotten worse. Now their GPS location system seems to vary by more than a foot and as much as two feet. In places where I had spotty location info a year ago now have no location fix at all. And yet they still have 22 to 27 co view of the satellites. The RTX is viewing the entire sky and sees 39-40 satellites. So if they can't get by with 50% or more co viewed satellites, the tech must be flawed. And don't get me started on the app. You have to use the phone app to do everything with this robot. The app started out clunky and just got retarded with each update. Side Note: This thing keeps an open connection to a Chinese server. A high security risk to have with a country that has vowed to hack the USA. This is a great idea but the execution is abysmal. It isn't getting better either; it just keeps getting worse. I don't know how to express my dissatisfaction with this product any better without starting to use bad language. So I'll stop here. Bottom line: If you want more headaches in your life, switch from manual mowing to this piece of crap robot!!!!
I'm leary about what may be Mammotion's poor after sales support. So many people everywhere have stated their customer support is sorely lacking, and parts availability appears to be bad too. I think a bigger name, like Husqvarna, is the better bet imho. I'm hoping for a Husqvarna wireless AWD.
I bought 2 LUBA 5000 in the kickstart and as you know there were several problems in the first addition. I also no own a LUBA 2 10000. If you are indeed working with Mammotion please ask for the point to point mapping. I am on a 500X900 ft lot and drawing a straight line is not that easy especially with slopes.
I suppose if you live in a desert... most properties have trees. There is no way to determine if it will work until to drop some serious cash... then its too late
As of today, 7/22/2024, the Mammotion app will not open on Android. That means nothing can be mowed. We reinstalled the app and it still will not open. Any ideas?
@@AutmowRoboticMowing Mammotion gave out a bad update. Everyone had the same trouble with it: app problems and positioning issues. 2 days later they issued a new update and the problem was solved. It was bad timing for us as we had gotten a lot of rain and the grass was growing rapidly. 40 task areas, 2 Lubas. Can't afford 48 hours of no work. Once you get behind like that, you will have dead grass clumps all over the place for the rest of the year.
I always love your guys information. Have you guys tested the Yarbo yet? I'm curious if it is a decent mower to try. I used multiple Husqvarna and am currently testing my first Luba 2.
We are planning on testing Yarbo very soon -- we are excited to receive all the attachment modules -- not just snow blower, but also the lawn attachment, so stay tuned for that video!
UPDATE! We only recently received the Yarbo M1 (mowing unit) and are currently testing it, but note there will be an updated version coming soon with new tracks more suitable for grass. We will continue to test and release our test results and new videos when we can.
None of these RU-vid robot lawnmower tests show us how well these units work multiple seasons in a row. Like... How water-tight will the Luba be after 4 years? Will the device even be supported by the manufacturer as they release new products (or go bankrupt). As grass clogs in the Sunseeker Orion X7 mower deck, will the gravity-based floating mower deck still move at all after x years, and if it doesn't what can I do to fix it? These mowers are all quite expensive, so a home owner will rely on it working for at least 5-10 years, but none of the reviews can tell me how well that is going to work. I understand why it is the way it is, but it means most buyers don't really know what they are buying, as they only have seen the setup part and how well the mower is working the first few weeks when brand new.
As far as grass getting clogged now that I have seen a video on it I plan to use my leaf blower every week or so to blow out the underside vs dismantling. You are right no one knows how well these mowers will hold up over time, but no one has a time machine and if you want to wait 4 -5 years that is your choice. Everything is new once. I personally like the grand experience. Sunseeker has a 2 year warranty and it seems dealers are being added constantly so I am confident if something breaks and I can not fix it myself there will be a place to send it.
How about service and support? That is very important. Robot Lawnmowers are not cheap. Warranty is important. Also, RTK is going to be a thing of the past. Eyesight mowers are being produced. Very nice video. Thank You.....
Dreame just released the A1 with lidar. Very limited yard size, though. I figure I'd try out the X7. Don't mind the rtk may be on the way out, as long as it works for me that's all I care about.
Autmow offers basic technical support to our customers, but some issues might need to be escalated to the manufacturer's support team in some cases. Autmow offers service on most of our brands with the current exception being Mammotion as we do not have diagnostic tools or parts needed.
I have the Sunseeker Plus. Really like the hardware, easy to set up and map. Not crazy about the AP. Basic setting are OK but there is no good user guide for the AP so you have to figure somethings out for yourself or get support from Sunseeker who have been great. Very good under canopy which was one of my biggest concerns before purchasing and one thing that caused me to not buy the Luba2.
@@evac311 I have zero connectivity issues but I do have the Plus model. Unlike many of the videos you see on RU-vid I have a fairly complex lawn with nearly no straight lines. From my base to the farthest part of my lawn is 400 ft. Again no connectivity issues. I also have 3 heavily leafed trees that I mow under, again no issue at all. Mows my lawn beautifully once I found the right combination of height and cutting method. Probably different for every lawn. The only thing I am not fond of is the AP. Some basic functions are easy but some capability is hidden and only when I call support do I learn about them. I think my lawn is about as complex as they come but once everything is set up properly the mower does great.
Mammotion has a US based service center in CA where most repairs are performed if they cannot be resolved by troubleshooting or parts replacement by user.
Autmow is the WORST. Order was not received when promised, waited several weeks more and they gave me the runaround, never an update on delivery date. Now I've been waiting for a refund and nothing. Had to open a dispute with my credit card company. At least Amazon has the customer service and trust to get a refund from if needed. Avoid Autmow at all costs!
Best is what works best for you: price, operating environment, features, etc. Autmow will work with you to decide the best mower for your particular needs.
This is a question for Mammotion because the process may change with different updates. But Autmow offers its customers access to their Knowledge Base, which covers this process along with other useful information. How to Add RTK to the App: support.autmow.com/portal/en/kb/articles/luba-2-how-to-add-rtk-to-the-app How to Update RTK Firmware: support.autmow.com/portal/en/kb/articles/luba-2-how-to-update-rtk-firmware
You talk about warming the battery in the winner. I want to know about it overheating during the summer. I live in Florida and have battery powered lawn mower and a robotic lawn mower. Both have issues with the batteries overheating. If this is built for say, all states to the north of Georgia, Yarbo is cutting off more than half the market,
Yarbo has an operating temperature range of -20°F-104°F, so it potentially could have problems in states with very high temperatures (Texas, Arizona etc.), and it might better to run at night in peak temperature months. I also live in Florida and I have 5 different robotic mowers running with no issues all year.
I BROUGHT ONE ABOUT 6 MONTHS AGO AND WORKED BRILLIANT UNTILL TREES HAD LEAVS ON THEM ,NOW IT STRUGGLES ON THAT BIT OF GRASS . ANY IDEAS . THE DEALER SHIP IS ABOUT 1.2 MILES AWAY THANKS
Sorry to hear you are having issues, but this is a fairly common problem with all RTK mowers. Those tree canopies can throw quite the wrench into the operation depending on the time of year. The first you might consider is to adjust the operating schedule and see if you find better performance. Since the constellations are on the move, there are certain times of day (or night) where the connection may be stronger due to co-viewing more satellites. A step further might be to make that a separate zone that you can manage more granularly and not impact the areas of the lawn that are not experiencing issues. A third and final suggestion, without knowing the extent of the issue, it could be an opportunity to landscape around that area and remove the need for mowing with mulch + flowers or maybe a fire pit area (if you don't already have one) or a natural habitat zone. I hope the schedule adjustment is enough to resolve the issue. If not, do reach out to your local dealer and discuss other potential solutions. Thank you for the comment.
