It's not something you see every day. Video of a mail delivery truck driving over the easement, sidewalk, and onto a Waterford homeowner's property to deliver their mail this month.
Arrested? Seriously? LMAO. Laws are so lax nowadays. Even seasoned criminals get off easy. You honestly believe you would be arrested just for this? What else did you do? Did you duct tape an assault rifle to the hood of your car with a flashing billboard saying weapon is here with an arrow pointing? LOL
This is simply not right; but this an anomaly, USPS employees are generally super nice, and professional. If I was this citizen, I would not wait even three times before I speak to the Post Master or Police Chief or Mayor or big head honcho, until it gets resolved. Citizens we are somebody!
I’m a carrier for 19 years If I have to deliver mail and the street is narrow, I’ll go to the right as far as I can with the hazard lights on and park, and walk the extra couple feet to the mailbox. Cars behind me can wait, or go around. The postal manual M41 forbids driving on sidewalks. This carrier should be given an investigative interview by his managers. That’s their job
Its the managers that gave the all good on them doing it. They probably encourage it even. The issue is the road is too narrow and they don't want to block traffic to deliver mail, so the mail service encourages drivers to drive on the sidewalk to avoid blocking traffic instead of fixing the issue. This probably even goes up to the town level government.
@@MrPAULONEAL Then that will be one of the routes that cannot be done quickly and the postal office has to plan schedules accordingly. I think they're just being petty at this point.
As a retired Letter carrier, I would like to say that if my supervisor heard about this I would be facing a suspension. Maybe calling the Postal Inspectors would get better results, as they are the postal police.
@@carlcarlson5553inside of city limits it’s illegal to park on the sidewalk or your yard or to drive on them. And to block the sidewalk is illegal too. Outside of city limits you can park on your property.
Not only does the USPS need to be sued to reimburse property owners for damages, but the postmaster in this district needs to be fired for allowing this to occur
@@vincnetjones3037 Driving through grass repeatedly very much damages it. The guy literally said in the video that he was quoted $500 to repair the damages that they caused and that they weren't just driving over grass either. Yes, they can. All they have to do is put on their hazard lights so people know to go around and if that street's too narrow for them to do that, they can park on another street.
As a 44 year employee, if the box is back over the edge of the side walk, you can drive on their to deliver it. (regardless of what the manual says) Or the homeowner can apply to move it further out. You're not required to jump any stop on a mounted route, as you know, they don't want ANY accidents. Could the carrier be more understanding, YES! But, remember, we're only hearing his side of the story. Him being a jerk about land that isn't his, could have ticked off the regular carrier. All the land to the left of the sidewalk is municipal property, it's an easement. The carrier that drove onto the sidewalk, to serve his neighbor, should be ordered to the edge of the street. The carrier should have cut the stop and requested management to direct the customer to move the box. I had one postmaster who would help, he'd have maintenance go out and do it for the customer if they needed the help. They don't seem to care as much today?
I wonder how many layers of insulation there are between the people who have been contacted and the postmaster? With this story, the postmaster might finally become aware of the issue.
Screw the local PM, go to the POOM...the regional Postmaster... I guarantee the Supervisor has read every single complaint and has surely given information to the postmaster. Five years has gone by???? Nah, time to go up the food chain.
@@posapop27 A mail man can be cited/ arrested for committing a crime on the job. Being a federal postal worker isn't a get out of trouble scott free ticket when you do something illegal like in the video. Its the individual's actions being illegal not something with the agency.
SCOTUS will then take on this case and dismiss it, because changing the mail truck route would be an obstruction of Trump's re-election. And it will be processed immediately, because this case is more important than the insurrection case of DT...
@@HerpDerpNVOk gotcha, I thought you meant to complain about the conduct of the Post Office, not the individual driver. In that case, he should complain to the police chief and the mayor to get them to issue citations so the state’s attorney can prosecute!
This is a prime example of what a sorry state of affairs our ENTIRE country is in . This entire 5 year drama would have been unthinkable 30+ years ago .
Most of the mailboxes there are up past the sidewalks…and they are allowed to drive up to the mailbox to deliver the mail. Also that land between the street and sidewalk isn’t that guy’s property….it’s the easement and belongs to the city….the sidewalk also is city property and not this guy’s property.
We had an issue, the road does a "tee" and dead ends on both sides of the tee. I live on the right side t. The post office made me move my mailbox to the top of the t so the snow plows kept destroying my box. They would not replace my box unless I moved it. I moved it on to my side of the tee. They put letters in my box saying they wouldn't deliver to me until I moved it back. I called the post master and she said the mail carrier is not allowed to back up but she does it on the left side of the tee when she delivers to those houses. They would not speak to that. The trash guys turn in my side pick up my trash and back down to the other side. We are talking feet not miles. I gave up and just buy the cheapest mailbox now everytime it gets crushed. I can't wait for the government to control healthcare!
It's time to reform the system of wealth distribution and representative taxation. Thought would close the wealth gap a lot, whilst still providing incentive to do well & be the best you can be. It's just systematic corruption preventing this imo
"1A Audit" aka harassment from criminals who don't know the law and keep getting arrested but they keep doing it because previous convictions (frequently sex crimes involving minors) prevent them from getting a real job. The first amendment doesn't protect you from illegal lawn driving. Have you ever even seen a frauditor go to a post office? They get trespassed and eventually arrested every time. They're morons, as are their supporters.
What they’re supposed to do is park somewhere convenient, deliver on foot to all houses on the block, then get back in the truck and move to the next parking spot
@@andguy not at all thats in the city in rural areas they do it from the truck which is why they have the steering on that side of the truck the guys mailbox is suppose to be by the road his carrier just got tired of his bs
First off lets look at the LAWS... this isn't a federal issue it is a state issue. Best I can tell this is Detroit Michigan and should be a MICHIGAN state law issue. Most states and municipalities residents do not own the property in the easement. Once pass the EASEMENT then you start dealing with private property issues and damaging his private property. WITHOUT knowing exactly Michigan state law all of this is conjecture on our parts. I would put up a fence on the edge of my property if allowable by municipal code then lets see them runover my fence and say its not destruction of private property.
Actually your mailbox 41″ to 45″ from the road surface to the bottom of the mailbox or point of mail entry. His mailbox is further than that. So it's the home owners fault.
Back in the 80’s there was a popular bumper sticker that said “If you don’t like the way I drive, stay off the sidewalk “ USPS should print some up and put them on their mail trucks. 🤔🤔🤔
I lived in Mays Landing NJ for 61 years. About 10 years ago it was 9:30PM when a neighbor drove to my home and handed me my mail. He did this for the other 11 houses on the block. Our mail carrier took the mail for the entire block and shoved it in this one mans large mailbox. We are a rural area, so the houses are some distance apart. Thank God we have honest neighbors. The next day I went to the post office to file a complaint. I spoke to the postmaster and told him what happened. He told me that he "would put a note in the mail carriers file about the incident." I asked why she wasn't fired. The reply was that she did nothing to warrant being fired. This is after she told him that she delivered the mail to the individual houses while I stood there. It could be that the postmaster and our mail carrier share a skin color.
I know a guy that worked for the post office and he was truly a waste of oxygen! Any other job, he would have been fired from pretty much immediately but it's hard to get fired from the post office.
I am in rural Oklahoma. The mailboxes for 6 households are at a T on a dead end gravel road. Our USPS driver has driven the extra quarter mile to my driveway then a block and a half down my driveway and walked to my house to leave packages that were large or important. I still have not received my last 4 Fed-Ex deliveries even though twice I was waiting at my gate when the driver claimed to deliver. Also have had Fed-Ex and UPS leave packages in road. Some being insulin.
When we bought our home in rural VA, it was new, no mailbox. The wife looked up postal regs for rural routes which specified how far off the paved edge the box was to be placed, the height of the box from the ground, and minimum size. She carefully measured, and set the box. Carrier came by and told her SHE wanted the box moved to "THIS" position... And wouldn't deliver our mail until the wife dug up the box and moved it. Wife took pictures, and the regs to the postmaster, who ordered the rural carrier to deliver our mail. She refused. We got a new carrier. The placement of the box allowed the carrier to pull fully off the road in a blind curve. She wanted it moved closer to the road so half her car stayed IN the road... In the BLIND curve.
Good on her? She was cowardly. She first confronted the mail carrier, and then a person at the local post office, but in both instances she shamefully, and I am sure quite purposefully, neglected to get their faces on video.
@@michaela4427 If the reporter is trying to get answers for the public, she needs to be asked and she needs to ask others questions like these …Does she (reporter) know USPS rules and regulations?…Does that customer know USPS rules and regulations?…Did she ask the customer if he got approval from USPS to move his mailbox before he moved it?…Was the customer’s request to move his mailbox denied for any reason according to USPS rules and regulations and the customer moved his mailbox anyway? If she’s trying to get answers for the public she should have asked more questions and had the answers for them before doing a news report on this issue. The public needs to understand, there’s information that goes into how a route and delivery is setup. It’s not always a carrier’s fault, or the fault of USPS. I’m just telling you what I know. I’m not taking sides.
@@gotchagee3315 -- No, it's become a matter of "wills" -- who "will" give in and do what the other wants. The issue, to the post office, is that they don't think the street is safe enough to stop on. I have no way of judging that, but I've seen comments on this story by mail carriers who say that the solution is to set up a walking route. Doesn't look like that will be considered here.
I had a similar issue when our USPS driver delivered packages to the house, they did a three-point turn in the driveway, going on the grass and ripping it up. When I called them out on it, I got that they don't allow their drivers to use reverse for safety concerns, but I constantly see them backing out of my neighbors driveways. I also do a lot of woodworking, so I 'accidently' dropped some nails where they did the three point turn in the grass (I often work in my driveway). That quickly solved that issue.
I think it's a resource thing for the police. Since the vehicle is not registered to a specific driver, the police office probably would need to get a warrant to make the post office tell them who's working the shifts in question.
The police don't ticket government vehicle it's a gentleman's agreement witch is stupid some of those mail carriers should be carriers Some can't read an address I've gotten mail for someone a Three blocks away from were I live
@@ShopEskimo Yea, I'm sure he has nothing better to do than make up stories and harass the post office over the obvious damage done to his property. lol😂😂😂
He won’t be able to due to probably being owned by the county/city via Right-of-way. Typically, sidewalks (unless in a private community) and some land behind the sidewalk is owned by the municipality. The only thing he could do is file a complaint to the State.
@christopherthedude12765 He would sue for the damage to his personal property. That's his entire case. He really couldn't care less about the sidewalk or easement. They are driving on his personal property, and they've damaged or destroyed multiple pieces of his personal property.
I’m a retired letter carrier with 38 years of service, this behavior from the carrier and management is unacceptable, if I was that homeowner I’d sue them relentlessly and their retaliation is to stop delivering his mail. Inexcusable.
Do you know how this route was setup for the type of delivery and where the delivery is supposed to be made? Did the customer get approval to move his mailbox before he moved it? Was the customer’s request to move his mailbox denied and he moved it anyway? Just wondering.
@@troyl200 apparently the Postal Management are not in touch with Customer Service, we’re hanging on by a thread in the delivery business and hemorrhaging money left and right, they never get it.
The United States Postal Service is a prime example. Of government bureaucracy without accountability. This is why civil service status should be abolished.
@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS No she didn't. I can see plenty of houses on his street that have mailboxes right on the roadside in the easement and on the road side of the sidewalk. Here are a few just to prove you wrong: 2451, 2455, 2460, 2476, 2465, 2490, 2521.... should I keep on going?
As a former City Carrier. Whenever we got notices to not drive or walk thru yards we were supposed to follow the residence request. However, some carriers are lazy and instead of follow the instructions they would just ignore delivering the mail and have the residence come to the post office to pick it up. Seems this carrier is being petty and turning this into a bigger deal than is should be in the first place
Dude all you gotta do is put tire spikes in your yard and a sign on both sides of your yard warning that tire spikes are in use on the property. If you own the property all should be legal given the signs are visible enough
@xenaguy01 US postal workers are obligated by law as government employees to deliver your mail, and mail can only be suspended on a temporary basis due to animals, most specifically. The point, however, is that this will prevent the mail carrier from driving on his property and causing costly damage. Receiving the mail is the 2nd problem on that list.
Why, the postal truck was not on his property. It was on public easement. Anything from the sidewalk towards the road is public easement and is not the property of the homeowner.
@@snowflakehunter You are incorrect. Just because it is an easement doesn't mean it is not the home owner's property. An easement just allows the city to install utilities and sidewalks in that area, and for pedestrians and cyclists to access the sidewalks. It would be ridiculous to assume that an easement allows anyone to drive down the sidewalk.
@@DirtFlyer That is true as far as the definition of an easement but in most cases in neighborhoods like this the city or county owns the land from sidewalk to sidewalk and I would be surprised if that is not the case here. Problem is that mail carriers and trucks are almost never pulled over for fear of interfering with the US Mail. In my neighborhood one day we got home and everything outside the sidewalk was dug up including the trees that many neighbors had planted years ago, too bad, it was city property and they needed to replace a sewer line so everything else had to go.
@@snowflakehunter not the damages done to his sprinkler and solar lights that were on his property. The video clearly shows them driving on the person's property.
I live in a semi- rural area where all of the mailboxes are located right along the road. Drivers simply slow down and go around the mail vehicle. The postal service there says it is about safety, yet in the video, it shows the mail carrier driving up on the sidewalk right near an intersection and blocking the view of a white car. I guess they are perfectly fine with endangering other people.
Yeah it's a safety hazard. People drive like they don't have brakes. Or just mad in general if they're behind a delivery driver. Amazon drivers have to worry about this as well.
Ive been a carrier for 6 years, and I have been driving over the curb for a long time. I can't tell you the number of times someone has nearly ran me over, so guess what? I'm done with that. I will drive on your lawn to deliver your mail.
If the mail carriers can not safely deliver to mailboxes along the road, then it needs to be made a walking route. On the other side of the street, you can see that the mailboxes are on the houses and it is a walking route.
This. Both sides need a walking route which is not efficient. For vehicle delivery all boxes need to be as this homeowner has done; place it at the curb. The safety issue mentioned is that they worry that the mail trucks will get hit by fast-moving traffic; therefore, they need a different solution. Maybe DeJoy would have a solution that also does not work. Republicans are out to destroy the postal service however they can. That would be a terrible loss.
@@tomstiel7576 DeJoy is Trump's fault. He and Trump is why we can no longer trust the postal service to be timely or secure. Never put a check in the mail.
Well it looks like everyone else has a street side mailbox and so should he, I bet they sent him letters telling him to put it on the street and he refused, there is definitely more to this story.
I love that he proved they are just being dicks by moving his mailbox to the road where other mailboxes were and they still drove on his lawn and refused to deliver his mail
What is wrong with people? As a retired carrier I can tell you that it is a FIRM REGULATION that rural delivery customers are required to have a serviceable mailbox ACCESSIBLE FROM THE CURB BY THE CARRIER WITHOUTLEAVING THEIR VEHICLE. I guarantee that the customer has been given written notices to move the box up to the curb, and he's flat out lying that moving it where it's supposed to be is a "hazard". The obvious proof of that is all the other customers have theirs at the curb. How are people dumb enough to believe this guy's story?
And if they are driving over any underground utilities (like water lines!) and cause damage there, too, then they are also responsible for replacement.
Looking at the state of the road it isn’t made to support the vehicles either. If only Americans learned to build walkable and bikable cities, so the USPS could use cargo bikes to do their rounds.
@@jayandreas1131 Exactly, we do _everything_ incorrectly here. Nothing is ever designed for _people,_ only cars. It's one of the main reasons, along with Trump, that I want out of this country.
The mailbox was originally mounted on the far side of the mailbox. Post Office should have instructed the residents mailbox mounting regulations from the beginning
I think he is being petty and should be happy that they deliver his mail when he has a mailbox where they want it. For free they deliver his mail. I would forever ban him from the delivery route he is on and make him rent a box at the post office for $180 per year and travel too the post office too pick up his mail. He is required too meet the Post Office standards for his route. He needs too put the mail box back and widen the concrete sidewalk so they do not damage is sprinkler and yard instead of complaining.
@@wickedwood04 Right? Seems like Greg knows dick about owning a home, how government operations are paid for, that sidewalks are public and it's not permissible to alter them as a homeowner, and likely pretty much everything else he "knows". “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ - Mark Twain
I went through an ordeal with USPS and eventually the postmaster general was involved and ended with 2 supervisors and 3 carriers being dismissed from my local post office.
You are my hero! You've renewed my hope for change. I had a great carrier at my old address, but I just moved in February and the new carrier is beyond terrible.
You could try getting a job with the USPS as a carrier to see what it's like. I'm not saying your carrier doesn't suck (they might) but the amount of work carriers do is INSANE, and the expectations laid out before them by management is just as bad. @@Iffy50
@@Doc5thMech Don't be a tool! If they are breaking the law, why should they get paid from tax payers? Fire them and hire new, hopefully, more conscientious employees.
@@Doc5thMech I'd much rather lose all USPS service than pay people who are a menace. It can't get worse than what it already is. Their issues with management gets taken out on the customer. I saw a Reddit post yesterday by a USPS carrier who gets frustrated with the Fed-Ex delivery people so he kicks the packages out of the way.
Can't do it, they can try! They can't mess with a mail carrier. I carried and had multiple interactions with police. Police that thought they had jurisdiction over mail carriers. In each case they either were admonished by a judge, Postal Inspector or Postmaster. I was trapped in a business park by fire equipment, so I had to park in a fire lane to deliver my mail. The fire chief threatened to tow my truck. Keep in mind it was HIS VEHICLES that were causing the problem. I told him I'd move if he'd simply give me the space. Instead of helping, he again threatened to have me arrested and towed! At that point I said, "I f*cking dare you! Touch me or the vehicle, you'll be the only one arrested!" Later, after he gave up, he was visited by the Inspection Service. Where they explained I could park wherever necessary and that he couldn't touch me, the mail and the vehicle or he'd be arrested. If you are aware, NYC police tried that a few years back. Got angry with a carrier delivering packages that had a turn lane blocked. They slammed the carrier to the ground, arrested them (BUT LEFT THE VEHICLE IN THE TURN LANE?)! Big mistake, if the Postal Inspectors hadn't gone easy one them, they could have gone to prison. They got their ears chewed off and asses handed to them by a federal judge. Only uninformed police officers mess with carriers without a justified reason. Driving on the curb, isn't sufficient.
@@tyeedwrds You said all that thinking it is a flex? You think think you are better than us, can ruin our properties, and drive recklessly just because the police aren't allowed to mess with you? What you have just said and the matter in which you presented it has now made me wholeheartedly wish that changes in the future. I am tired of the elitism.
The sidewalk further down is publicy accessible to Pedestrians- so be "on a walk" in the way when they come to deliver! Refuse to move under any circumstances. Make them call the police. Sue police if they don't back you.
If there is a safety hazard, why don't they have a community mailbox around the corner where everyone's mail goes into a locked box? Surely this would be a city planning decision to fix the road to allow the truck to pull over on.
USPS doesn’t fight back in court cases. Unfortunately, a government entity also isn’t required to pay out any damages or losses when they lose the case (which is why they don’t spend the money to fight in the first place. He’s guaranteed to win but He’ll get no money and they’ll keep continue driving on his lawn with no consequences. God bless capitalism. - Personal Experience
Position your mailbox 41″ to 45″ from the road surface to the bottom of the mailbox or point of mail entry. Place your mailbox 6″ to 8″ back from the curb. If you do not have a raised curb, contact your local postmaster for guidance. Put your house or apartment number on the mailbox. If your mailbox is on a different street from your house or apartment, put your full street address on the box.
@@Steve-fx2fbif you watch toward the end of the video he tried to do exactly that and they stopped delivering mail to him entirely saying that it was "unsafe". They still deliver mail to the neighbor whose mailbox is like 6 feet from the road (which is where his originally was) by driving on the sidewalk.
@@VAFranky Fair enough. He better talk to his neighbor about moving the box. The post office doesn't care. Why fight them over it if it can be resolved that way?
Grass is not meant to be walked on! Only looked at. What don't you people get? Especially when you have "the best lawn on the block". Geeze. People have no regard for grass these day's. Especially award winning grass.
As a seasoned USPS employee i can say with 100% certainty, your carrier is just a dick. IF for some reason curbside delivery(which is where he wanted to move it for them) is considered unsafe(?? Never heard of this in my life) then the street needs to be delivered on foot not via the truck.
The issue is that post office workers are federal employees and typically exempt from state laws when conducting official business, only federal action can really be done that’s why his local PD probably can’t do anything
Long time ago the newspaper delivery guy stepped in a plant bed to take a shortcut to the Mailbox. We wondered why the plants are flat and dying. My dad saw that one time while he was sitting on the balcony. Before lawnmowing we collected our dogs poop of the lawn and placed them at the point the newspaper guy stepped. You shure now what the next day was flat 😂
Lazy ass postal workers with a certain privilege! If they're not delivering mail, then there's no need for them. This happened to a friend whose neighbor's dog almost attacked the mail carrier and USPS refused to deliver to whole building. They held mail hostage for a whole month. How they get away with this nonsensical power trips, its beyond me. DEFUND the USPS.
As a mailman for the last 7 years I can tell you that this carrier should be disciplined. We are not supposed to do anything like that and I’m surprised he’s still doing it and getting away with it.
The carrier should make sure that the customers have their mailboxes placed properly. It's up to the customer to correct and problem with the curbside mailbox.
The process your PM has to go through is insane and the minute the carrier requests Union representation, the process is stopped until union comes in. The issue is the write up has to be completed within a short time frame. Union and the employee usually drag their feet if they have it in good with the union, by then it's past the deadline and the complaint is dismissed without any review. That's just one of the many ways carriers are getting away with stuff, but as a result the PO has been coming down harder on your mapping and edit books.
@@chele-chele Was going to say - they're bad for tires, but also bad for your mower blades too. Need a board with nails sticking through it you can place down, and then easily pull them all up to cut the grass, or, you know, they could just not drive on the sidewalk like morons
Since they are being this petty, I think I would walk along mail truck on the sidewalk pushing a cart during delivery times and see if they hit me or the cart. I would enjoy them trying to explain how it is not their fault when they drive on sidewalks. This reminds me of a trash truck driver in my town. I was at sister's house located on a tiny dead end road (I belive it has six houses) because I was going to be driving her and my then baby niece to the hospital. I had parked at the edge of her and her neighbor's property, went inside to tell them I was there, and went back to my car to wait for them because I was going to leave my car in the driveway in her spot since I would be driving her vehicle as the car seat was already properly set up in it. The trash truck driver gets out and starts telling me that I can't park there. I tell him he does not get to tell me where to park on other people's property when I am not blocking access to anyone's trash cans for pick up. He had been standing near the trash truck, but starts walking up to me yelling that I am blocking the road and he will be calling code enforcement. I told him I don't care as I don't live in this neighborhood and it would be the police that he would need to call, not code enforcement if I was actually causing a danger on the road. The man absolutely loses his mind when I say that and just starts screaming about how I am not allowed to park there and how he is going to make sure I never do it again. I start backing up to my car door since he is some 50-60 something years old man and I have pepper spray & a knife in my car while repeatedly yelling "I don't care! Get out of my face!". My sister and a neighbor of hers both step outside their front doors because they hear us yelling. The second he realizes this, he storms back to the trash truck and backs up to the main road. My sister informs me after I explained what happened that he pulls the trash truck into that neighbor's driveway every week and then backs up into another's yard to turn around. Since I was at the edge of their property, he could not turn the trash truck into that driveway without hitting my car. City employee in a tiny town so nothing actually came of it.
…if you can afford to do that, great. Otherwise nothing will happen…government is not here to help or serve the public in any way, shape or form and they certainly prove it. Cheers
@@watchinvidzwatchinvidz7691 those geniuses will drive through it then sue the homeowner for damaging their mail jalopies. He needs a couple decorative boulders or brick retaining walls or concrete planters or steel pipes 😂😂😂
Good luck with a law suit. Those are privately insured military issued vehicles. They take them where they want. All the homeowner needs to do is move it to the street. Problem solved.
"They refused to talk to me." As someone who's observed people trying to deal with USPS, this sounds about right. I try my best to mail a package and leave while interacting as little as possible to avoid the passive aggressive government employee ridiculousness.
@@dooleyboy13 They won't resolve this man's issue either. Running over his lawn when he clearly has a kid is dangerous. They're destroying his property on purpose since he's already told them about the situation.
Prettier solution is to buy big concrete/cement pots and put cactus, roses, even fake ones in them. Buy a bag of quick-crete, shape it into large spheres and roll them onto your lawn. Cinder blocks with ice plants are pleasing to the eye.
As a mailman I can guarantee you it was a walking route and the mail carrier is trying to change it to a driving route and this guy didn’t put the mail box down on the street like they asked him. Not saying the carrier is right for this just saying what I think happened. Not all mail carriers are like this my route is 22 miles on foot and my customers love me for it the give me water food etc. my boss says I should start making new residents but boxes on the street and I say no this is better for our customers.
"Safety concern" is the people walking on the sidewalk having to NOT get run over by a postal delivery vehicle. Not only is it a crime, but I'm pretty sure they can lose their job (both the driver and their supervisor). This needs to be addressed with the USPS main headquarters.
As an Amazon driver, I'd park curb-side, hit my flashers, get angry stares and sometimes the finger from motorist stopped behind me, deliver the parcel,, and then go on my merry way.
1. As "an independent establishment of the executive branch of the Government of the United States," the United States Postal Service enjoys federal sovereign immunity absent a waiver. 2. "Employees of the United States Postal Service are subject to obeying local traffic laws and ordinances just like any other citizen. However, the Postal Service cannot legally be billed for any traffic violation fines incurred by its employees. 3. For the past 12 years, the USPS has been fighting in federal court claiming "absolute immunity from traffic laws and civil prosecution stemming from private property rights".
My wife is a retired mail carrier. People need to put the box where the postal service wants them at the correct height or the postal service can refuse service. I don’t think she did anything like this. However it is a tough job.
@@torrycole6477 all it would take is saying.. Can you please move this to here. He did move it. Maybe there was a problem with that location or the height also. Who knows. Sounds like a job for a face to face... Let's get this straightened out before someone does something stupid.. You know like drive down the sidewalk and lawn.
Billmakie; You are correct. People are supposed to contact the postmaster to get a location for their mailboxes. You wouldn’t believe some of the rules that the mail carriers are supposed to follow. Like they are not to put their vehicles in reverse. Good luck getting out of a South Dakota snow bank.
The local police don’t have the authority over the USPS. As long as the postal carrier operates the vehicle in a “safe manner” we have the ability to do pretty much anything.
I am a mail carrier. I do not understand why it is necessary to deface a customer’s property. As long as the mailbox can be reached while driving on the road, it should not be a problem. Curbside delivery mailboxes should be accessible without having to get out of the vehicle. If mailboxes are too far away from the road, the USPS should inform the customer via proper form or letter that they should correct the location of their mailbox. Their mail will be held for ten days until the issue is resolved.
@@jonathanjones3126and while we're at it, stop blaming the carriers for the failings of management. The carrier doesn't make the call on changing sections of the route from mounted to walking, even if they tell their management about this issue daily.
Sidewalks are for pedestrians not motor vehicles! This is dangerous. Five years.. this man has had to put up with this reckless behavior. He certainly needs a lawyer..USPS needs to be held accountable..These mail carriers certainly know what they are doing to this poor man..they seem to be rebels..ignoring all the yard signs and cones. No one should have their property damaged over and over.
When you graduate third grade, read the postal regulations governing the idiot homeowners mailbox - - not a lot of pictures, so you may have to wait for the comic book edition
I THINK IT'S TIME FOR ACTION INSTEAD OF WORDS. IF YOU CAN'T FIND A CREATIVE WAY TO STOP A VEHICLE TRESPASSING ON YOUR PROPERTY ? THEN YOU HAVE FAILED AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN 💯
Absolutely lazy and stupid behavior of these mail carriers. All so they dont gotta walk 10 bloody feet. Even worse is then when he compromised to make it as easy as possible for them while not driving on his grass, they retaliate by illegally denying him mail delivery.
@@bennym1956 The USPS wouldn't allow the mailboxes on that street to be put at the street curb. This should be a walking-route for the USPS if that is true.
@@reelreeler8778It was designed to be a walking route but has evolved to this because of crime. Now, it has become laziness with the crime thing as an excuse. Plus, more postal carriers would be required if this were still a walking route which would increase the cost of delivering mail. All of this crossed with the typical laziness, incompetence, and inconsideration of a Detroit government worker equals broken sprinkler heads and ruts in your yard.
Our normal mailman at our office and at one of my homes are pretty decent guys. Friendly, helpful. Now, the employees at the local post office are a totally different story. They clearly don't want to work.
My sister had this problem with guys using her very large lawn to turn around, etc. she had some VERY LARGE rocks placed in a few places. She began seeing car fenders and undercarriages on her lawn. Didn’t take long, and they stayed off her lawn.
To be fair to both parties. 1. The fact that many of the mail boxes are that far away where the mailman has to drive onto the property to deliver the mail is an issue that should be fixed. 2. The homeowner is justified in his issue with his property being driven onto like that. 3. The homeowner fixed the issue by moving the mailbox to the side of the road. This should have resolved the issue. & the fact the post office acted the way it did in response to the homeowner is pathetic to say the least.
He needs to contact the USPS Office of Inspector General to file a complaint. They're a separate agency that oversees and investigates wrongdoing by the USPS
The driver of the USPS truck is out of order. They're to stay on the street and get out of their truck if need be. Destroying city property (the curbs), let alone private property, is NOT in the USPS's or the city's budget. I've never seen such irresponsible behavior. And to not deliver the man's mail out of protest when he's in the right? Incredibly immature. He SHOULD take the USPS to court.
most mail carriers aren't as lazy as the one in this story. it's odd that all of the mailboxes aren't along the road - probably due to people hitting them driving too fast for the road (or on their phone)
@@Scotty_in_Ohio They said in the video that the post office response was that boxes on the streetside were a "safety hazard". As if driving on the sidewalk isn't a safety hazard.
He isn't going to win because the USPS is a federal entity and because of is regulated by Congress, only Congress can make the USPS pay a fine or pay the guy for damages. There is a few court rulings on this.
There’s this thing called qualified immunity for government agents while doing their jobs. The government is afraid for carriers parking in the road to fill his box. Probably a carrier was killed doing that so they won’t let them do that any more. Also he can still go get his mail, if he doesn’t wait too long, at the post office. It’s a pain all the way around, but just move your lights and sprinklers so they don’t get him and let your mail person deliver in a way so they aren’t killed by crazy drivers.
@RLucas3000 this isn't it. Those lazy carriers can still do their job just fine, and safely, without breaking the law. They don't even have to get out of the the vehicle on the traffic side
Everywhere else in the country, the drivers will stop right in the street. Traffic will wait or go around. It’s not a problem and everyone is used to it. It’s also the entire purpose of the flashing amber lights on the back. They’re refusing to deliver to that box because they’re being petty and vindictive. Period.
I am a mail carrier and started watching the video thinking that I was going to point out why my fellow mail carrier was in the right and the home owner was in the wrong. Nope. I just cannot justify what I have seen in the video. If the mail carrier doing this see this. Do your job and stop making the rest of us look bad by association.
These type of stories make me appreciate my city postal workers so much, walking all day in all kinds of weather and temperatures and ALWAYS friendly and polite!
Yes I have always loved Mayberry. Me, Andy,Drill sergeant Fifth and Floyd love sitting out front barber shop and waiting on Mr. (Jingle) to deliver our mail. That and people watching. We have the life.
This guy was doing everything reasonable to try to resolve the issue even moving in his mailbox. I’m guessing Detroit doesn’t always have the highest quality employees to choose from in their area. It just laziness and lack of respect for others property.
