Man Tries to SELL Over $25,000 in FAKE GOLD to a Coin Shop!

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Just yesterday a man tried to sell over $25,000 in GOLD, SILVER and Platinum Bars to a Local Coin Shop in Minot, ND!
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@TheQuickSilver101 7 месяцев назад

I think Josh hit the nail on the head when he mentioned *genuine* shock about the counterfeits. I've seen genuine reactions of shock from people when they find out that their family bought garbage like that. I saw one guy break down and cry because his grandfather had bought this stuff as security and was trying to cash it in only to discover that is was all counterfeit. It's heartbreaking when you're the victim of it and it's disgusting when someone is trying to deceive a coin shop owner or anyone else for that matter

@jasonandjulim4163 7 месяцев назад

A guy got busted in Alabama recently trying to sell a dozen fake Perth bars. He took them to a coin shop, was told they were fake, then he tried to sell them to an undercover officer.

@pozzerbob 7 месяцев назад

its Alibaba importing the Chinese counterfeits.

@serene889 7 месяцев назад

Josh should have called the authorities. This is a felony for fact they were trying to pass this onto someone else after being told they were fake.

@OhJodi69 7 месяцев назад

For counterfeit US currency, such as ASE's, AGE's, anything that is being passed off as from the US mint or Federal Reserve, it must be reported to the Secret Service. The first step is to call the police.

@ItsEverythingElse 7 месяцев назад

PRE-CRIME!

@Harleyxl1776 7 месяцев назад

The problem with that is the state will have the burden to prove that they knew it was not real and still trying to pass it off as real! It would prove difficult to do that unless they could find evidence that they either were making them or got a confession that they knew those were counterfeit. It's technically not illegal to own them because they can be labeled as "replicas"

@minotcoinbullion 7 месяцев назад

No one said in the video that owners of the fakes were trying to pass these off onto someone else (other than me) as real. As far as I know, I was the first person they went to. Based on their lack of shock when I delivered the bad news, however, I feel that they possibly knew they had fakes. It’s not illegal to own counterfeit gold, silver, etc... It is illegal however to attempt to pass it off as real now that they know that it’s fake. That is why I contacted other dealers in my area to be on the lookout so if these individuals try again to sell these fake items, the authorities can be contacted.

@Ambassador_Gkar 7 месяцев назад

@@ItsEverythingElse What, are you one of these counterfeiters! ACTUAL CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!! The act of trying sell fake metals is false pretenses, at least.

@retiredarmyvet2018 7 месяцев назад

The first thing I did when I started stacking silver was I bought a Sigma Pro mini with all three wands. I was at an estate sale that had a custom made western style belt made with about 30 very old silver eagles. They wanted $900 for it which was a great price for 30 eagles. I asked them if they minded if I test it. They said not at all. Every single eagle was fake. The people running the estate sale also owned a pawn shop. The daughter of the estate was there and I asked her about the belt. She said that was not her families and that the people running the sale asked if they could bring some stuff from their shop to try and sell and they would not charge the family the full price to run the estate sale. I told her that they are trying to sell fake eagles from their shop and showed her. I think she kicked them out.

@andysmith8504 7 месяцев назад

My 3 favorite silver stacking channels are 1. Silver Seeker, 2. Yankee Stacking, and 3. Silver Dragons. Great content keep up the good work and Merry Christmas.

@ja5onl6 7 месяцев назад

Check out surfing stacker. Just discovered him from Yankees last video.

@UncalBertExcretes 7 месяцев назад

365 days of silver, and sovereignsaurus are also good to follow

@jayc8180 7 месяцев назад

I watch silver dragons too. Great channel

@awakenotwoke4830 7 месяцев назад

2 is one is one of my favorite for gold. Yankee is second. Silver dragon has ok content but gets annoying.

@LivermooreJesse965ud 6 месяцев назад

Spegtacular with the coin guy has very good videos and got me into coins

@tjmmcd1 7 месяцев назад

Thanks, Silver Seeker; the most honest, highly informative and awesome silver/gold channel on YT.

@normangage6953 7 месяцев назад

What a story. Glad Josh is prepared, nice of him to look out for his neighbors too. We all need to be on the look out. Buy from reputable dealers, SD Bullion and Josh at Minot!❤

@TheCoinNerd 7 месяцев назад

Very informative! Thank you. You really help people.

@Sam_Iamknot 7 месяцев назад

Absolutely! As the LCD told those guys everything is phony/counterfeit and they had Zero empathy or upset about 'Grandpa's savings'; sure sign its a scam, planned and they most likely even were part of the creations. Thanks Seeker, great way to share the nonsense and what may become more prevalent as future times arrive.

@DevineAbyss 7 месяцев назад

Maybe. It could just be that they just had a hunch before, that these could be fake, but they didn't know for sure. Also 25K is a lot of money for most people, but really not all that much for some. Just imagine they also inherited some real estate from their grandfather, possibly beeing worth 800K, some stocks and his little gold/silver reserve for bad times worth around 25K. Now they check theim for magnatism and find out that some of it may be fake. They are however not professionals and have no professional equipment and are not sure. They now bring it to a coin shop to sell. The coin shop owner tells them that every single piece is fake. "Ah, that's a slight bummer". Would they really want 50 Dollar in exchange for their big stack of fake precious metals that their grandfather passed onto them? 50 Dollars is what, going out to eat twice? I am pretty sure, that I would keep it for myself in this scenario.

@normangage6953 7 месяцев назад

What a story. Glad Josh is prepared, nice of him to look out for his neighbors too. We all need to be on the look out. Buy from reputable dealers, SD Bullion and Josh at Minot!

@richardhutchison3123 7 месяцев назад

Thanks Silver Seeker for this informative. Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!!!

@Eli-qr9hc 7 месяцев назад

An amazing story to share. Thank you

@cosmiccreations888 7 месяцев назад

Very Good video / session Seeker Thank You !

@chillmurray7529 3 месяца назад

Very generous of you, Josh, to offer $50. I would have let you HAVE them if they were fake. The customers wanting to keep them is a HUGE red flag! But you already know it. Thanks for letting us know!

@rlwright2002 7 месяцев назад

Great information guys and a great story. There's a lot of people out there. Trying to get up one on you. The best way to prevent that it is education.. I do a lot of homework before I buy any silver.

@walterswanson3867 7 месяцев назад

Hard to believe they didn't know. Anyone who didn't know would be crying when they found out. We aren't talking a coin or two. We are talking $25,000. No way they didn't know

@pank524 7 месяцев назад

Definitely been hearing a lot of stories of fakes passing on sigma's lately they're getting scary

@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 6 месяцев назад

Just subbed Josh! 🎉🥈🥈🥈Appreciate you guys keeping us informed! ❤😊❤

@bigdaddyhoffman1911 7 месяцев назад

At the 1:30 mark in the video when you mention being excited about 2024 this song came to mind. "I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it I'm about to lose control and I think I like it"....LOL. Unfortunately, I don't have the same outlook for 2024. Yes premiums are down on the metals and that's always good to see but I believe it's going to get really nasty out there. Nearly three years of this current administrations policies and high inflation has taken it’s toll. Americans are struggling and I'm afraid it's going to get much worse before it gets better. God Help Us! Big thank to you Silver Seeker and Josh for pointing out the fakes. Oh Yeah, your comments at the end of the video were spot on. Life is good. Merry Christmas and God Bless

@richardladow4734 7 месяцев назад

My question is, why isn’t the Secret Service going after the stores that sell fakes?

@randyw8761 7 месяцев назад

good question

@SilverSeeker 7 месяцев назад

Temu, Ali Express etc are all in China. Laws are different there and it's out of their jurisdiction

@jerryyang8174 7 месяцев назад

I’ve been approached at gas stations and Walmarts to see if could buy gold or silver before in a parking lot. Very strange and there have been people robbed trying to buy gold in a parking lot by me. Very scary and be safe people.

@alschumacher9463 7 месяцев назад

VERY GOOD INTERVIEW THANKS

@ynot552 7 месяцев назад

Informative video, thanks

@coincollectingfun 7 месяцев назад

Crushed the like button! Fabulously done!

@user-dk1rr6lk7k 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for the advice!!😊

@bobbyadkins885 7 месяцев назад

They picked the wrong shop, Josh is on it

@FrostbyteCoins 7 месяцев назад

Shared out! Great work guys.

@nickelstacking2023 7 месяцев назад

or a bar banger

@paulrichards383 7 месяцев назад

I bought fakes twice from two separate dealers. I took them back and let them know. Then they tested them. If I ran a shop, I would test everything.

@SirAlford 7 месяцев назад

"On The Level Josh" is a sharp cat!

@emilevoyer123 7 месяцев назад

THANKS FOR THE VIDEO

@thewildgoose7467 7 месяцев назад

When I started stacking around 18 months ago I confined myself to the silver Britannia (with it's 4 security features) and a reputable dealer. Now I branch out and would buy silver bars and coins and a little gold, but again mostly from dealers. I would never buy anything encased n plastic especially gold, because I don't have a Sigma tester (which would probably cost over 2k taking shipping and import fees into account). I know I'm a relative novice, but here's how I protect myself. 1. I never buy anything encased in plastic. 2. I don't buy gold bars, only coins. 3. I research what I'm buying, what it should weigh, it's diameter/thickness and if it has security features? 4. If buying privately I always bring a calipers and small scales and have details of 3 above written down. 5. Bring a 'pinger' if you have one (I use a cooking thongs with silicone teeth and a pencil) 6. And finally, I stick by the old adage "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is"!😉

@paulaxiuk7609 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for the very useful information Gentlemen.

@T.W.goodguy 7 месяцев назад

Alright Alright Alright,Josh in the house. Going to be a good video,🤠☮️✌️🎄🌲🎄💚

@roberthutchison8416 7 месяцев назад

Just the fact that they wouldn't sell to you means they will sell to somebody else. Now that they know its criminal for them to sell. I say they knew it.

@jasonwoods3384 7 месяцев назад

thanks for the info

@ineffably_described 7 месяцев назад

I have been saving receipts for every purchase since i started stacking. The pile us 5" thick when compressed between rubber bands. 95% of the stack is from the major retailers and the rest from local shops and coin shows. I know this won't prove anything at sell time, but hopefully it will make the buyers slightly more comfortable with me.

@buyystocks 7 месяцев назад

ty for sharing.

@timothythompson4036 26 дней назад

I can't believe coin shops don't have test equipment. I do not buy gold bars for stacking. This video is the reason why.

@jacobg6528 7 месяцев назад

Offering $50 bucks shows how great Josh is... fakes are out of control

@richardmetcalf2346 7 месяцев назад

Great story! I guess I'm lucky. The only gold bars I own i won and are so small it wouldn't' matter. Coins are my route. And from reputable dealers!

@hdrvman 7 месяцев назад

I'm considering buying a Sigma pro as if I catch just one ounce of bogus gold....it will nearly pay for itself !!!

@esotericgardening 7 месяцев назад

My LCS tells people that if they want to buy metals from someone or do a trade for them that they should have the person meet at his shop so that he can verify the authenticity. He says that asking to meet at the coin shop is a great way to know if they’re fake cause the people won’t agree to meet there.

@cowman-ud4ze 7 месяцев назад

Awesome video

@steveg5576 7 месяцев назад

Newbie here... Bought a few Gold Eagles, a few 1 oz bars, a few 2024 on the way. You talked about storage. I'm sitting here handling them. I'd appreciate some input on storing these..do or do not handle them..? Down to earth channel here...thank you

@loubrok1550 7 месяцев назад

This was going on even over a hundred years ago when the no cents v nickel was gold plated and passed as a 5 dollar gold piece.

@azureblue1442 7 месяцев назад

President Reagan use to say, “trust, but verify”. I have a Sigma and test EVERYTHING 💰Thank you for your video

@johnjacobs1625 7 месяцев назад

Merry CHRISTmas SEEKER! Josh should talk to Mr Davis the Counterfeit GUY! I'm Sure Coin Crew Has the # !! JJ

@user-mq9oz2mc6z 7 месяцев назад

I always try to buy from a dealer. Who I trust and bought from before that's the safest thing to do

@dgriffin6074 7 месяцев назад

I guess the only remedy is to purchase from known reputable dealers. I've looked at the Sigma metalytics but the price is more than I am currently prepared to pay. There is a "ping tester" which determines fake vs non fake by the ping the coin makes when struck lightly with a wood stick they provide. I have tested it and it does appear to be useful.

@christopherinnovation151 7 месяцев назад

My uncle lost $3000 in silver coins and bars back in 2013 in Florida. I so agree with being careful in this day and age.

@EroticOnion23 7 месяцев назад

I bought some of those decoy Wish gold-bars for my decoy safe...$2.74/Toz when I got them...😂

@amyharrell251 7 месяцев назад

That is down right jacked up that those two guys would try to sell that many fake coins and bars.

@OhJodi69 7 месяцев назад

It ASTOUNDS me that legitimate coin dealers do NOT know that counterfeit US Currency MUST be reported to the Secret Service. Over and over on youtube videos, such as now, I hear dealers saying they do not know what to do about counterfeit currency. Fake ASE's and AGE's must be reported.

@SilverSeeker 7 месяцев назад

Well to be fair none of this was currency

@minotcoinbullion 7 месяцев назад

Correct. None of the items from this story were US currency.

@ItsEverythingElse 7 месяцев назад

They could very well have not known they were fake. Who would be dumb enough to try to sell that much fake to a CS?

@johndibert5509 7 месяцев назад

A lot of people are that bold

@wesleyt4109 7 месяцев назад

I was aware of those assay gold bars. Never seen one in person but have seen them being sold online. I recall the Perth and I want to say there was Valcambi too. Do you think Costco tests their gold bars that have been a hot commodity? That would be a big deal if they were letting fakes through because so many people bought from them. It could easily turn a lot of people away from stacking. I'm sure CNBC would be salivating at running a headline about fake gold being sold at Costco seeing as how they'll do anything to turn people away from gold and silver and towards Bitcoin and stocks.

@johnscovill4783 6 месяцев назад

My dad visited the souk in Riyadh back in the early ‘60s. He told me that there were numerous money changers and coin dealers. The Bedouins did not like paper money. Goats eat it. He was impressed by the abundance of Austrian Maria Theresa dollars and suspected that most were counterfeit but contained the right amount of silver - amputating the right hand was the punishment for theft.

@bujmoose3992 7 месяцев назад

Maybe coin dealers and bullion dealers need to have some sort of alert network where one dealer can let others to be on the alert.

@lenhua1947 7 месяцев назад

and this one ,thanks!

@michaelminauro4180 7 месяцев назад

Good stuff

@PapaKryptoss 7 месяцев назад

Wow just Wow.

@malgorzatamyrzha7598 7 месяцев назад

That's why whenever I buy silver or gold I always go to my jewelry store and ask them to check for me if it's real. Even if I buy in the past many times from the same place I go and I checked. U can't trust no one. 😢

@markwojo727 7 месяцев назад

I bought a fake morgan i got ripped off for 30 dollars still have it.

@classicrider21 7 месяцев назад

Does your Sigma tester need to be calibrated? If I would run across a used one is it worth the investment or just stick with a new unit from the factory?

@iamgabriel5823 7 месяцев назад

I own a small antique shop. I've had a few sketchy people come in and try to sell me valuables including coins. The minute I ask for I.D. and if I can take their photo they are GONE, unless they are honest about what they are trying to sell me. An honest person wouldn't mind showing ID or having a photo taken.

@LouisE-mp8lx 7 месяцев назад

Actually, plenty of honest people would have a problem with that. Testing with a sigma machine is one thing, but asking for ID and also to take a picture is out of line. I’d be out the door, going to sell somewhere else.

@SlimShady771 7 месяцев назад

@@LouisE-mp8lxyeah you're not taking my picture. ID no problem

@Michael-uf2gv 7 месяцев назад

Is the 3 Wand Sigma Metalytics Precious Metal Verifier Bullion set - SM1501S2 good enough? It doesn't say Pro in the title.

@Carman-2012 7 месяцев назад

It happens !! I found a 1oz Pamp and 10 gram Pamp just last Thursday. If you have a Sigma use it.

@musclesmouse 7 месяцев назад

I buy only 1oz rounds so I can use the ping test. I bought a couple fakes from the web sites to know what to look out for.

@chetmyers7041 11 дней назад

14:10 "I had none of their information." Perhaps the buyer could institute a policy "I only evaluate pawn items from customers with 'credentials' on file."

@pedrowhack-a-mole6786 7 месяцев назад

I invested in a Sigma Pro Mini when I committed a significant amount to stacking. I checked my gold, even though it all came from one of the larger companies that has a good reputation. I also checked all my silver, most of which was 90%, and most from eBay. I was a little nervous until the Sigma showed that none of it was fake. I tell everyone I know that I have the Sigma and that I could test their precious metals. I have detected only one fake, a Franklin half that was purchased at a flea market.

@DavidSagala-vs7yf 7 месяцев назад

Sigma is awesome. A must for those who commit to serious stacking.

@user-dk1rr6lk7k 7 месяцев назад

I bought a SIGMA PRO FOR MY GOLD and it has not failed me 1 bit , wonderful machine; worth every cent invested

@flea-flickersfishing9415 7 месяцев назад

My best investment was my Sigma Pro...well worth the price for the confidence of my holdings...

@ronaldramo3 7 месяцев назад

I one time brought some bullion to a pawn broker for a loan and they didnt use the sigma machine properly and said it was fake, I was almost on the ceiling in outrage I had bought fakes. Fortunately, the clerk went to the manager who used the correct settings and confirmed it was all genuine. I was being so apologetic explaining I was not upset at them but at the prospect I had been duped.

@terawattyear 7 месяцев назад

I stay away from all bars. Gov't issued coins have specs that can be checked. I am even skeptical of buying coins in slabs. The plastic cases throw off any chance of getting the proper weight.

@chrisadams3384 7 месяцев назад

Don't stay away from bars.Just buy gold from reputable dealers..

@Threedog1963 7 месяцев назад

I've bought off of Ebay and since they have a buyer's guarantee, I take what I buy to my LCS and they'll verify with their Sigma. If it's good, it's good, if not, Ebay will refund. I usually buy a generic round from the LCS while I'm there as a way to offer gratitude for his service.

@edwardaustin740 7 месяцев назад

I got almost hosed on a recent purchase of a 1926 Semisesquentennial half Commemorative. I tried to cancel it. It showed up 3 months, (after I bought a real one from Portsmouth Coin and Currency, Daniel Malone). 2.5 x the size and 4x the actual weight.. I only purchase from reputable coin stores now. Lesson learned.

@scottduncan8070 7 месяцев назад

My LCD had several MS70 1/10 ozt ASE PCGS graded for sale at a (low price). None would even register on their tester. I wanted to buy them but it to risky. They test everything c

@stevesimons2641 6 месяцев назад

They were asking how expensive a Sigma tester is to see who they can target for their mark. They will get someone to buy it in the private market who can't afford a tester.

@CSM-68 7 месяцев назад

I went and ping tested all my silver.

@OhJodi69 7 месяцев назад

I think those guys had stolen the collection from someone. They didn't know they were trying to sell fakes.

@ulexite-tv 7 месяцев назад

This occurred to me as well -- and i even went so far as to wonder if it was a decoy collection that could get stolen while the real collection was stacked int paint cans in the garage, or aa sale of fakes to these guys for drugs or something.

@TheMostSlyFox 7 месяцев назад

Premiums may be down, but even a dollar twenty five over spot for a round is still a very high percentage. Especially when spot is this high on top of that? I think it makes more sense to look in other places to invest your money that can potentially grow your wealth that you can buy more silver when it dips.

@chaunceyhart1346 7 месяцев назад

Does taking your bars out of the assay effect resale value? I’ve kept some in but taken some out, I like to handle my Gold.

@nolove332245 7 месяцев назад

100% why I will not buy off regular people unless meeting at a shop and I can have tested first. Silver I can do myself but gold is just to much to $ to ever risk it

@ultimore 7 месяцев назад

Ugh, that’s a disgrace. I have enough of an investment in gold and silver that I should consider adding the “premium” of a tester.

@michaelmohrle1773 6 месяцев назад

Would the ping test work on the 10 ounce coins ? The tudor beast coins?

@gregciesielski683 7 месяцев назад

My metal defector works to sort out some of the junk

@markkatz6170 6 месяцев назад

Scottsdale mint comanders series second coin is coming out soon. Scottsdale mint Patton coin.

@jasonking7729 7 месяцев назад

Sometimes I'll use a pawn shop to get a small loan. Of course I retrieve the pieces back. They won't deal with assays unless they can break it out and do a chemical test. Not every shop invests in a sigma.

@CaseyStacker 6 месяцев назад

I just got a coin from my local coin shop today the Chinese year of the tiger Canadian 2022 mint condition for 5$ over spot 28$

@user-lh1ss1fp5q 7 месяцев назад

Bars and rounds are the most dangerous (due to counterfeiting) and least likely forms of value preservation in precious metals. I buy only and sell only PCGS and NGC graded and slabbed coins. I use the online certification service that is freely offered by both services to verify graded coins that I buy. When the flood of silver and gold bar and round sellers emerge on a serious uptick in precious metals dealers will not be able to find enough cash to buy all the stuff that comes into their shops.

@jimpanse1638 7 месяцев назад

I sold a (legit of course) carted 50g gold chafner bar once and the shop buying it also unpacked it to test it despite having my face and id card... shows how much junk is floating out there.

@user-dk1rr6lk7k 7 месяцев назад

This is exactly why I bought the PRO MACHINE FOR MYSELF

@mikehernandez264 7 месяцев назад

❤🎉 thanks for sharing this information with me Colorado Silverback777 The Hernandez Family.🎉😢

@benjamincapps5258 7 месяцев назад

Fakes hurts the whole game....no one wants to get scammed and few have verification access

@reillystsb 7 месяцев назад

What's really scary is how much more of that Fake stuff do those two guys got

@markinator8826 7 месяцев назад

Theft by deception is a crime, should have gotten the plate number off the car and called the police...

@markpetty9206 7 месяцев назад

He should of asked the sellers if he could drill a couple of the fake bars, to check them.

@robertclark9 7 месяцев назад

Oh they knew it was fake. If I were a betting man, I’d bet my stack they knew. The old Grandpa story is older than Grandpa. Lol. I wouldn’t purchase any gold that wasn’t at least sigma tested, along with weight, thickness, etc.

@rickycollard9715 7 месяцев назад

It literally cost nothing to do a magnet test on it or a ping test or a hard rubbed if you're gonna buy this stuff make sure you do it all guys and don't get ripped off

@Ambassador_Gkar 7 месяцев назад

These acts should be videod, including the persons themselves, then the footage, at least, handed over to the police! Given the state of the Police, throughout the Western World, in this day & age, they would probably have just ignored it. But that is no one's fault; except the Police,& your Government; which is another issue. Also, having their voice stating they were looking to sell, would constitute an alleged crime in progress. Josh did try hard to get their ID, so kudos to him, for the honest attempt. Whilst they sounded like real amateurs; they weren't stupid, in handing over their IDs. Though, if the cops were being diligent, & did have them on record, then the photo imagery could have lead to a prosecution. In New Zealand, it is Law to have to produce ID at any mint/professional metals' seller (like a pawn shop). We don't have LCSs. A pain, for tax, & Government oversight; but that's another matter. NO ONE doing anything, to try & stop it, just causes an exponential exacerbation of the problem, with the more honest eventually trying it (which these may have been). Which leads to it becoming endemic, right across modern society! Just like with any crime. Then, the next stage would involve physical harm. Anyone who doesn't agree with this position, of criminality, don't ever complain, if YOU get ripped off; or worse, by any scam/thief, etc., in the future. Ask anyone who has had property stolen, they WILL most likely have a very different stance. AND, there is NO difference between passing off counterfeit goods, & physically stealing another's property. Anyone who doesn't have either the experience, or the testing, should ALWAYS buy from reputable people, as Josh stated. Honest people are just plain dumb. 🤨

@ja5onl6 7 месяцев назад

I bought 8 eagles a few months ago from a guy at $27/oz. Afterwards, i had this weird feeling. I took them to my local coin shop a few days later and found out they were fakes. Fortunately, the guy did the transaction at his home, and he refunded me. I'll only purchase from a repretiable coin shop! If i would have meet him at a walmart or something I'd of been out of a few hundred bucks.