Manager Won't Stop Arguing After Ejection So Both Umpires Respond With The Silent Treatment 

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Thank you! Someone else with some common sense! MLB needs the NCAA prolonged arguing rule. Stop wasting everyone’s time

​@@killaspetotter134It will never happen. Pro ball is unionized, and the unions would stand for suspensions.for anything other than criminal acts: drug use, throwing punches, or stealing (signs).

@@killaspetotter134 The NCAA rule has ruined college baseball. It should only apply to certain situations like it had been for over 100 years.

Only if there is physicality involved. This can be handled by a clock with increasing fines.

​@@DJTexan I really like this idea. Like a pitch clock but instead of play penalties, Everytime it expires the ejected person pays 50k to keep arguing another 30s. When it hits zero, another 50k is added and it resets. Note 50k number pulled outta thin air. Make it relative to average league positional salary.

If there is physicality then yes. But this can be handled by just increasing the fines.

Or forfeit the game. I thought there was something about that in the rules.

Arguing after an ejection should be grounds for a suspension.

@@equinoxproject2284 only if there is physicality involved.

Yup, every other sport refusal of a player or coach to leave the premises in a timely manner usually leads to a big fine and suspension. In baseball it’s not only accepted but encouraged by players and managers alike. Disgraceful

Totally agree. The sad thing is, they know these rules about arguing and do not care.

@@Not_a_smart_man I'm a soccer referee, and we deal with it quite simply. Until someone who's been sent off leaves, I can't continue the match, and the remedy for being unable to continue is to end the match and file the game sheet with the league as a forfeit/abandonment by the offending team. I've never had to threaten someone with that after showing a red card, but my prepared plan for that occasion is to not say that to the player or coach whose been sent off, but to tell that team's captain or coach who is still in the game. "I can't continue this game until they leave, and it will go into the record books as a forfeit if I can't continue...." I suspect that would get them moving.

Dont forget to wear your covid mask.

Go back to your room. Adults are having an intelligent conversation

@umpingwithrpg Hahaha. You probably actually think that! I guess it's relative. To my dog, it is something of a challenge for him to know where to go to the bathroom. Say! Do you think he is a liberal?

After being ejected, the person has (let's say) 15 seconds to be on the way to the locker room or the next batter is penalized a strike.

That's because they aren't arguing the action (getting help vs. not getting help). They're arguing the result.

I bet she gives him the silent treatment, too. 🤣

This fossil should be used to the silent treatment :P

I know what you're saying but in this case, I disagree. The manager got ejected because he wanted to plead his case to the base umpire. This is one of the weaknesses of the 2 umpire system: sometimes you have to rodeo clown your own ejection because having the CC come in to do it just gives the arguer what they want. We don't have the full unedited clip, but IMO this was well done given what the officials had to work with.

You don’t move them along and put hands on them. No need for rodeo. Let the league handle it with bigger fines for refusing to go.

@@DJTexan At no time did I ever say put hands on ANYONE. Why would you think I said that or would even do that? Why would I suggest an umpire do something that would get them a DNR? Rodeo clown does not involve putting your hands on someone. Moving someone along does not involve putting your hands on someone. Go to bed, Darryl Gates…

@@teebob21 Oh I absolutely give them a B+ here! This could have gone far worse. But with umpiring we strive for perfection on Opening Day and then we improve from there as the season wears on. Big deal…the coach gets to “get what he wants”. The chief said very little. The object is to move the game along once the ejection has occurred. And no matter how many umpires you have working a game, it’s never one umpire overruling someone else. It’s never one umpire telling another umpire to change their call. The crew of 2, 3, 4 or 6 umpires gets together and everyone present gives what they saw. It is then up to the umpire who made the call to take in the information and decide whether they wish to overturn their own call. But don’t take my word for it…it’s all right there in the MLBUA manual.

@@1969EType and yet you only give them a B+?? I thought they deserved an A+............great call, great demeanor and allowed the coach to get his say but after awhile, bye bye

They should just forfeit the game or something.

"BuT iT's PaRt Of ThE gAmE" /s

and if they threw him out earlier you'd say they were arrogant and didnt give the coach any rope

@@mptr1783 no I wouldn’t have. I’m definitely not one of those people. I actually umpire. So 90% of the time I’m on their side.

I guess when a call really Chiefs a manager, he'll argue so long folks think he's High, Eh?

I wouldn't think the gender matters.

Generally, no. The reverse is also false: coaches don't use any rougher language in women's sports when they have male officials.

@@priceright8963 yeah, I'm guessing if she has worked hard to be qualified to do this match (and the clip makes her look competent for sure) part of that process is probably being able to handle having your calls called "horseshit" from time to time.

No, if anything it’s worse because we’re seen as *especially* incompetent.

@@LindsayImber1 I couldn't help noticing that the manager wanted to talk to the male ump & wondering if he'd have carried on so long if both umpires had been men.