Managing Persistent Hair Loss Whilst On Finasteride and Dutasteride 

may as well.... although.... maybe your kid won’t care.

@@mickjoG i didnt care at 23 when i started to lose it. But after losing so much hair, i def. care now. Wish i started to care sooner

@@Shiro642 honestly everyone should be on like 0.25 mgs 3 times a week by their late 20s minimum

@@Shiro642 well thats the case with every one 😂

Assuming you don't have a kid yet it would be very surprising that there is no better treatment in 20+ years..

25 years on fin with minimal results?? If you still have hair at 47 id say you had good results! Although its good to know that you have noticed an improvment when adding Dut after that long.

Dutasteride every other day? There's absolutely no point for you to continue taking finasteride then. Your just making it harder on you liver without providing any benefit or mixing two medicines that usually are recommended no to mix.

Do you apply your dutasteride topically or take or orally? Where do you purchase from?

Why would u take dut for hair loss i do not get it as just the enzyme 5alpha reductase type 2 is responsible for hair loss, not type 1. Dut reduces both while Fin just type 2.

What a load of bull crap. I hate people like you feeding out misinformation. You’d think 25 years of taking finasteride with minimal results you would try to change something up after idk, maybe 2-3 years? No one sticks to something that does nothing for them for 25 YEARS. Just another maniacal exaggerator so people come flocking their story. If you really have been using finasteride for 25 years that means you noticed significant hair loss at 22 years old and have maintained your hair ever since from it. That’s a bit more than “minimal” if you ask me, it’s not common to regrow hair from finasteride that’s more on the uncommon side. It is however common and expected to maintain the hair you already do have.

Ru58841 is a good weapon

How long would you say one should stay on oral finasteride to see if they need to add topical solutions as well.

I tried dutasteride with finasteride 5mg for 2 years and they didn’t work tried LLlT and many things

@@no-de3lg try ru58841

@@nostro1940 im try it but there is no company to ship it to my home

Me too

Does your scalp look red or have some redness and itchyness?

Mine doesn't

​@@doodgeslagenmugmine does

I'm the opposite. my hairs on mid and back of my head has thickened since starting fin. but my hairline keeps receding 😢

How’s your progress thus far?

What's the status now? I hope your condition got better

How's it now?

6 months has gone , whats ur dosage bro

first step is to take it every day, reevaluate after a few months. Then you can try adding dutasteride 1/week.

how are your hair now?

suck the pill

Testosterone also causes hair loss

Yes, as bulk guy said. All androgens on the scalp cause hair follicle miniaturization, it's just that DHT is the most potent at it. So for most lowering DHT is enough to combat hair loss, but for those who's hair follicles are very sensitive towards other androgens finasteride will have less effect.

@@moredishesmorebishes7044 I didn't expect more dishes more bishes here

He doesn’t know, he is just hypothesizing, and no, testosterone does not cause hair loss. Look a the people with no 5AR activity due to congenital defects, they never go bald.

@@Jackshephardlostie That's what I thought too.

how are your hair now?

​@@mrtree4871 I have observed some hair regrowth in the initial stages of taking finasteride, although it is not particularly noticeable. My only regret is that I did not begin using finasteride at the earliest signs of hair loss. Best regards,

​@@mrtree4871 my hair is pretty much the same as when I first started taking finasteride back in 2018.

shading phase

Same I'm also losing hair, on fin and minoxidil for 5 months experiencing so much shedding. But I see new baby hairs in temples and my hair became so thick. I wash my hair daily because of dandruff. With a natural shampoo and a ketonoconazole shampoo. I have an extreme oil scalp. So the question I'm I losing hair because of the dandruff or shedding phase or due to washing my hair daily?

@@sudarshanbalachandar9414 same!! My barber was surprised to see how much baby hairs there are all around my head. I didn’t notice any of them... I only noticed the front part

@@josephgrmovsekcollaredcons6085 I already use a derma roller once every week

@@josephgrmovsekcollaredcons6085 There’s a channel called MATT DOMINANCE, he suffers from hair-loss and is recovering. He explained how much better the stamp is, I really want to buy it so I will search on it

I wouldn’t say it would accelerate hair loss Per se, but being that DHT is a byproduct from testosterone and you would be adding more into your body, there than would be more testosterone available to be converted to DHT regardless of the amount of trt you take. You could have the dose of finasteride increase to a level that you’re body tolerates but also keeps any side effects at bay. It’s kinda tricky to find that exact dosage that gives you the effect we’re looking for but also keeps side effects low if any at all. I hope that makes sense

@@rickrader this doesn't even make sense 1mg > 5mg is barely no difference what so ever at DHT inhibition so why even attempt to increase the dose

@@GokuPlaysUK DHT is a byproduct of testosterone, the question that I posted my answer to stated that he was having trt done which would in theory be a catalyst to make more DHT. I’m not a doctor, just applying my knowledge into the science aspect of it

Ya I am also on finasteride 1 mg per day from 6 months still loosing hair now started minoxidil daily once a day and dermaroller once a week.

hi, are there any results?

A mature hairline will look like you have a higher hair line than as a child. You may also have a slight M shape on your hairline. Balding will be a further step from this where that M shape is pronounced, see pictures of Jimmy car before his hair transplant for what that looks like. Alternatively you may be loosing it at the crown which is an easy sign to spot. You could also be suffering from diffuse thinning all over although its not as common. Its a lot more difficult to spot this.

Mature hairline isn't real

how are your hair now?

@@mrtree4871 Difficult to say. I'm still losing hair daily but existing hair is thicker.

@@Jim-oc3sp i see, can i ask how old are you? and when did u experienced hair lost first time?

Its too expensive and not available in many countries.

@@dimitarmartinovski8101 I know but I want their opinion about the effectiveness.

no

Hair fibres lmao

@@nostro1940 what

Good question! I hope you receive an answer 🙂

hy am experiencing similar side effects how's your hair responding to finastaride now?

Isn't it pretty common to lose 50-100 hairs a day though? Granted that they grow back of course.

Try ketocanazole shampoo, my scalp itches like hell because of persistent dandruff for years and minoxidil is making it worse. I recently add keto in my routine and it actually helps to reduce the itchiness.

@@nikkoj.7304 I have some dandruff but no problems with itchiness

@@Swaraj097 that's good to hear I think you're still in a good spot.

@@nikkoj.7304 I've used ketoconazole shampoo and it made my dandruff worse

how are your hair now?

@@mrtree4871 only slightly more recessed at temples than few years ago, crown seems to be just like before

no it wont

how are your hair now?

Same thing happened to me

Not possible

Not going to build up in system so no effective suppression of dht

@@rihansa199 yeah it builds up, and 0.05mg suppresses 50% instead of a whole 97%....yikes

how are your hair now?

@@mrtree4871 hair was falling out on dut, didnt work, went back to fin but have to double dose each day to stop hair loss

How are your hair now.. please respond

@@punnoytakbir5946 finasteride is best my hair fine, dut worked for a while but rapidly declined would not recommend dut

I generally start with 2mg or 2.5mg per day.

@@TheHairLossShow Thanks Dr Vikram and Dr Knudson. I have an appointment at the end of the month with the dermatalogist who can prescribe Oral Minoxidil.

@@TheHairLossShow Dr Vikram and Dr Knudson - what time of the day should you take your oral minoxidil if you are taking 2mg daily or 2.5mg daily like you start your patients on?

@@acquiesce100 Ask your prescribing doctor. Thats literally their job.

@@kylekeenan3485 Oh gee, wow, I never thought about that. Really? How very smart of you. Firstly, my GP is not a hairloss expert as oral Minoxidil is not prescribed by them so you need to be referred to a specialist. Secondly, its useful to get an opinion from someone who is a specialist in that area and who has many years experience with other patients using the same drug. Thirdly, whilst I hoped Dr Vikram would respond whilst I waiting for a confirmed appointment with a dermatologist surgeon I could then take the info from Dr Vikram and present it to my surgeon as useful information in case he/she was unfamiliar with what the starting dose should be as there is no exact data on it. That's why we are all here, to she and collaborate with each other. And to update you from when I made that post to the present day, my surgeon, when I got my appointment was really delighted I presented him with what Dr Vikram advised and is actually going to contact him and collaborate with him. So well done Einstein for a very well thought out comment which i never even thought of. It never crossed my mind to ask my Dr. You get an A+ douchebag. Now go back and play on your computer games.

Not bs but expensive and less effective

You people need to learn to ask simpler questions i mean goddamn..

@@sinanengin5756 lololollolololo

Try a topical anti-androgen if you’re physically and financially able to, they work absolute wonders when working in tandem with 5AR inhibitors

@@bobbybigballs4038 there's only really cb and ru and ru you are risking potential heart problems and cb I'm not sure where or how you would get it

@@johncrow2852 you’re risking sides with any of this stuff, people talk about heart-palpitations with Min yet it’s widely available and FDA approved regardless. I guess it’s just what we ourselves are willing to risk for our hair

@@johncrow2852 The heart thing was an unsubstantiated claim(on reddit?) that there was heart damage. Pretty much most people dismissed it, but it spread everywhere. Still, I wouldn't mess with the stuff since it all originates from shady chinese suppliers. One popular seller's stuff was tested and it came back under 50% pure with a claim of 99%

thats the good start add once a week

did the same mistake, dutasteride just destroyed my profess with finasteride

@@relampio yeah it's really weird and hard to pin down with so much conflicting information. Some say an initial shed means you're responding to the drug, promising regrowth in the future... at some point, whereas others who've stuck it out, well, I've read a lot of bad experiences at this point and quite a bit about how dut also inhibits important neurosteroids by blocking type I 5a, potentially causing cognitive side effects. What the long-term effects of this could be, frankly, unnerves me to think about. I'm seriously regretting even bothering with dut. I should have just remained content with fin and thought a bit harder about it. At this point, self-acceptance is the key. I'm not going to find happiness with myself by screwing around with my hormones and brain chemistry to maybe keep a bit more of my hair. What about you? What's your experience with the whole thing been like?

@@Jazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz i understand your point and think it is the best idea. i faced gyneco related symptons after 2 months usage of duta, then i panicked and used aromasin for a month, of course quited duta. even after that i couldnt use fin due to the symptons that werent fully resolved. so after 3 months pos duta im starting to use fin daily again because the symptons are gone, the hormonal rollercoaster that i caused probably is the reason why im facing the worst hair condition ever. ill stick to fin til the end because it always was safe to me, recommend you to do the same, cheers.

@@relampio its always better to add dut once a week with fin 6 days a week

Update

Any update? Has ur hair-fall stopped!? Thanks

any update matte ?

Update

UP

For me ive reached a stage whereby its pretty much stable. Im on it for 2.5 years now. 1st year horrible. Now stabilised but still well below starting benchmark. Im on minoxidil

yes dude, most people who use it, use it all their lives. it's not that inconvenient when you put pros and cons together.

@@alinajafi4038 I just don’t no it’s a massive decision. I’m on finasteride and don’t really want to add to it

Yeah, I don't want to risk my health by taking dutasteride for the rest of my life. It is also quite expensive. When I'm done with my current assortment of pills and minoxidil, I'm just gonna let nature do its thing.

@@lohengrinknight the dude is talking about Minoxidil not Dutasteride.

I’ve never really seen minoxidle incredible gains that would justify taking it for the rest of your life. That’s my concern. The fact that it also only works on a certain amount of people is another reason why I’m skeptical

how is it going SIR?

You should try ru58841 or pyrilutimide (quite expensive)

What is the condition now

It's not only about dht blocking,, but also about inflammation ,,your scalp gets more sensitized by alcohol which is present in your minioxidil,, you can try fin 1mg alternate day and minox 5 times and in weekends (sat and sunday) you can try anti inflammatory topical corticosteroid lotion to reduce inflammation such as mometasone fuorate 0.1 (dht affects hair loss but it is more often affects by inflammation which may be induced by stress ,dht and many other etiology ) you should implement my advice ,,hopefully it helps

@@sumitchaudhari10 which lotion is best for to reduce inflammation?

Snake oil

Any update;

update

hy how's your hairfall now ? are you still on finasteride? do answer it will help a lot.

To me 0.5mg is a high dose, more people should try 0.05mg

update

@@johnj1256 thanks. You should start minoxidle as well for the growth of new hairs. Join Facebook group (hair loss conquerors). A lot of people shared the story of new hairs growth in this Facebook group. Have you suffered any side effects by using oral finasteride? What is your age?

Oh Bro finestride cure pimple also it doesn't cause pimple There is bad blood supply and type III enzyme cause pimples

You should try head stand for week it really cure pimple

Thanks, I'll look into it.

You get reflex hyperandrogenicty! Stop the medication inmediately and see a doctor

I have stopped taking finasteride. But still getting some pimples now and then. I am thinking of resuming finasteride.

how are your hair now?

Get a hair transplant in Turkey instead.

@@RachidNYSE don’t really have a couple grand to spend on one right now

@@RachidNYSE you'll still need to protect the non transplanted hair, so you'll probably end up on minoxidil and finastride.

It'll still fall. If you really don't want to stick with topical monoxidil, oral monoxidil is your only alternative.

@@FlyingNacho even while staying on finasteride?

I been using it for 2 months thrice a week my hairfall not stopped

i guess you need one more month before going to any conclusion or watch 'hair regrowth with Alex' some kind of youtube channel may be you get some help.

@@jaswinderpalsingh6082 where the fallen hairs regrow

how are your hair now?

U need go el hospital now mi amigo

How is going now?

for about 3 months

Did stop?

UP

Why 5mg?

Update

​@@grko6439Because thats how hair regrowth discovered with 5mg finasteride in 1980's when they treat enlarged prostate overtime

Yes, just keep using it

hairs are becoming more thing and can be pulled out with a little force, hair line is receding

did you do some research on it? I‘m experiencing hairloss while in 0.5mg Dutasteride daily.. and I started 7 years ago..

@@simonecusumano3170 Yeah I did research on it and I found out that it's safe and even more effective But the cheapest way to get it is through taking 5 Pills of 0.5mg Which can be quite disturbing for some people I'm considering that option because I too am still experiencing loss on Dutasteride and it's been 10 months since I started

@@nerdcartoon2544 Did you go ahead with this? Any updates?

hahahahaha

Oil your wazzo with it. I know Arab channels dealing with hair loss are too obsessed with it buy nah it doesn't work.

TRASH.

It's a cope, just like Peppermint.

Finasteride died after seeing your comment

how long it takes to work ? 6 months or 3 months

@@MrDjge say it needs 3 months for most if not all ur weak hairs to shed then start regrowth for another 3 months so i think safe to say 6 month at least to make a pre assumption if it works better. Up to 1 year to see full results

@@95DnX i have been taking finestride since last 2 years But it didn't work Now i m thinking to switch to dutesteide Will you update on your improvement And dutesteide dosage?

Im 3 months post accutane i definitely see thinning shed is still existent..as for dutasteride i started 3 times per week (Sunday tuesday Thursday) it took like one month maybe a bit more to start seeinv improvment but its definitely a noticeable difference from finasteride, drug didnt do anything

@@95DnX thanks dear for the reply Brother i m very much tensed Because I am suffering from aggressive form of hair fall When started finestride i noticed very less improvement Because i was only expecting to stop hair fall , was not hoping much more But it even failed to Stop hair fall Now i m on dutesteide since last 12 days 0.5 mg every day But i don't want to take dutesteide every day, after one week i will take twice a week I m loosing more more than 80-90 hairs everyday Please say something about it How was your hairfall when you were on finestride And what was the difference when you started dutesteide

How bad were you when you started

No. They're all myth. Only side effect possible are low libido and enlarged breasts. To get feminine features, you would need to increase estrogens in body which is possible via harmone replacement therapy

@@rihansa199 But finasteride does increase estrogen levels. Gynecomastia is a result of risen estrogen levels. Logic should follow up to everything. I need answer from specialist.

@@martin2447 finasteride doesn't increase estrogen levels. It inhibits enzyme which turns testosterone into dht. If you have gyno it means your estrogen levels are naturally high and reduction of androgens is causing those andogens to increase fat near your breasts. No effects on other feminine features have been observe after long use of finasteride

It doesn't effect beard. Atleast mine is same from 1 year.

Ironically DHT is a critical factor in growing a beard so yes finasteride will effect beard growth

Yes

Maybe introduce micro-needling or topical anti androgen like RU58841. If you are still experiencing hairloss then you have to accept it and hair transplant probably not good idea as you will have to cut short anyway due to further hairloss behind the hair transplant

update

Finasteride is a blocker, if it works for you, it'll stop the hair loss process, you're likely to see that happen after taking it consistently for at least 3 to 6 months. Finasteride doesn't guarantee your hair will grow back and get thicker, because that depends on other factors like your health, nutritions, status of your hair follicles, stimulations and such, but in my own experience and the understanding of it, once the hair loss and miniturization process stop, naturally your body will try to heal your damaged hair follicles, I certainly got a lot of my hair back after taking finasteride for 9 months, and I know lots of other people do too. Give it time, if it works for you, you'll see it.

@@allenc4731 did you grow new hairs that were previously lost (obviously not all, but some) or did your hair just thicken for the most part?

@@gabrielbaker3188 Both. A lot of the hair that I lost previously grew back, and some existing hair shed and grew back stronger. My understanding is that, since DHT level isn't high enough to harm the follicles anymore due to finasteride, the body is healing itself. Finasteride in itself doesn't really promote hair growth.

@@allenc4731 I’m hoping I can grow some of my lost hair back, I’m only 3-4 years in my hair loss (I was predicted to go bald in 3 years if I didn’t start finasteride) I figure my hair follicles haven’t been too damaged since it hasn’t been too long. I only notice maybe a slight difference but I’ve only been on a month now

@@gabrielbaker3188 That's good news, just keep on taking it consistently, if the dose is right, you're more than likely to get lots of your hair back. The only thing I regret now, is not taking finasteride sooner while I still got most of my hair, time is the essence.

No there's no relation between pigmentation of hair and finasteride. You may be suffering from vitamin deficiency. Please get a blood test

Please explain this paper. It is invitro study. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5859039/

If anything, finasteride should make your hairs darker. This definitely is related to something other than the fin.

Yes mate, readily available from pharmacy’s online. I’ve been using “the independent pharmacy” it’s a real pharmacy, real doctors, prescribers etc. fill in a brief online consultation & they will write you the prescription in order for you to purchase from them. There is also an option for them to inform your regular GP about the medication you are going to start, so everyone is in the loop. I’ve been thinning all over for around 5 years and noticeable shedding, since being on dutasteride for 15 months, I’ve noticed my crown has filled in but most Importantly I have zero noticeable shedding. So what I have now, I will keep for as long as the treatment is continued.

How's the result of Morr F 5%

Bro

Any update

@Mr Hater idk I got a weird feeling from it, maybe it was in my head, finasteride felt normal for me...no side effects.

@@Sportsman134 what side effects from dutasteride exactly????

Dutasteride will make you cuckold

Which sides

It may not be the cause of of that. It could be something else, so after you

@@santanalarkin6118 Listen soppy, it's a well documented fact anti androgrens can reduce oil production

@Stephen7 don’t even worry about that, he’s lying. His side effects were not because of finasteride or dut. He DID NOT, I repeat, DID NOT, get vision loss from finasteride. If he did, then it was from something else, like from, well idk, LIFE. too much screen time

@Stephen7 Well i was on fin 1mg daily initially and around 4 months in my eyes started going funny. A haze, intermittent blurred vision. Stopped that, took a bit of a break. Thought I'd give dut a go. 0.5 mg daily. Same again upto 4 months in my vision was so ridiculously blurry. More so in the morning's. I could hardly see what i was doing in the bathroom mirror. Can vouch I've had no issues with vision prior to starting these medications.

@Stephen7 i don’t know who he is, he’s just a person in these comments. I can vouch that he’s lying about this. Even if he’s not lying, let’s say that he really did experience vision loss. But the thing is, finasteride didn’t cause it. I want you to go on Google and search up “Does finasteride cause vision loss” you see for yourself, nothing comes up

What does this do to hair?

No, if anything it will help.

Nope. Useless.

Updates?

The same with me bro, 5 months on finasteride Only, 3x a week. No result. I'll try maximum dose (1 mg a day) and see if it works. Have you tried maximum dose on finasteride? Is that work?

@@fajri6721 Hey Man, Yes, a month ago I started taking 1m finasteride every day, so far no results (and no side-effects as well), but it has only been a month. I'll give it another 5 months, and hopefully I'll see an improvement ^

@@FreddyFeldman I hope too but If it still doesn't work.. we have no option left except hair transplant, right?

@@fajri6721 Yeah, I'll do a hair transplant eitherway

How’s your hair now?

Too weak

It's ass weak

Many people (including myself) have a hard times getting results even from Finasteride, which is a pretty powerful drug. Saw Palmetto is weak af, I wouldnt put my eggs on that basket.

@Samir Thamer Indeed Brother; nothing beats the Big 3: Finasteride (Dutasteride if Finas dont work for you after 1-2 years), Minoxidil (both topical and oral, when possible), and Ketoconazol (just gives a little help/push to finas and minox). All the other stuff is BS and money-trap. The only last alternative is shaving or hair transplant.

It only blocks type 2..

@Zeus Bruh studies are not over yet you’re already talking of myth lol

take 0.5 mg a day like i’m doing and you’ll lower the risk for side effects. I haven’t had any

500+ mg is a weaker version of Fin, it can help a little

@@_baller topical or supplementation?

@@AbdulBasith2304 topical palmetto won't do anything

@@_baller How do you know?

@@AbdulBasith2304 cuz I'm not a moron, that's how that works

You would go with every body is different argument but people with inability to produce 5ar in their body have experienced zero hair loss in studies

Dut doubled My T

Dangerous stuff....you can try dermarolling once a week and minox its a great combo.

@@dimitarmartinovski8101 I've been doing that for about 15 weeks at 1.5mm with minoxdil everyday i never skip a day and still haven't seen any improvements unfortuantly

@@theoneguy13maybe you should think about finasteride 3mg a week.

@@dimitarmartinovski8101 im on dutasteride 3 times a week it is definitely maintaing though

If the lighter burns your hair, maybe

Yes it does. it constricts the blood vessels. and it raises cortisol

Nah

😢

Get a life

Same brother 😢

Updates ?

same. probably gonna go for a hair transplant next year

had hair transplants 3 years ago and it’s nearly all fallen out . i’ve been taking dutasteride minoxidil , micro needling , cathine shampoo .everything. once your bald your bald