As a recent member it’s been a relief to listen to your talks and Q&As. Seemingly the only party really thinking long term and willing to treat voters like adults
My sons girlfriend,who happens to be both black and Honduran/Belizian attends Brighton university doing a architectural degree,and she says most students ignore the wokies. One of his friend attends Durham University,and said they openly laugh at the ridiculous identity politics wallers. There is hope!
22:42 They're Right Wing in the sense that they are beliefs rooted both in reality and tradition, rather than rootless ideological aspirations to which a project should be directed to try to manifest in reality.
This isn’t what right wing means. “Right wing” comes from the French Revolution and alludes to the side that wanted to conserve the monarchy and the political and cultural traditions of the times. By your own definition absolutely nobody is right wing as they can never properly perceive true reality and are merely clinging to the norms of the current moment, as such almost anyone throughout history such as Julius Caesar or Alexander the Great would be considered left wing as they all aspired to reach out into the great unknown and make their aspirations manifest themselves.
@@ningen7736 You appear to have completely ignored the words 'rooted' 'tradition' & 'rootless ideological aspirations' to interpret what I wrote in the way you have.
REAL Leftism is rooted in reality. Woke ideology is a right wing plot to bring a bad name to socialism or communism. It’s why anywhere outside the west but even in a lot of Western Europe leftists hate identity politics
There’s nothing more frustrating than knowing, most people agree with the SDP but won’t vote SDP. The way our system cleverly and as far as I can see, intentionally works to squeeze out new parties, smother left wing economics and right wing social policies when the electorate votes for them. And wants a frustrated, disengaged majority with elections decided between two almost identical parties, on low turnout by the left wing middle classes and minorities. For me. Britain as it currently stands, is not a democracy. It’s the most ingenious and stealthy, progressive, Blairite, globalist, woke, Green one party state. Because it’s so stealthy and has the veneer of democracy, it’ll never be spoken of in such terms but it should go down in history as one of the most ambitious and successful examples of authoritarian one party regimes, complete with speech and thought crimes, ever to have existed.
The best the SDP can hope for is to become the strong and influential third party and supplant the Lib Dems and become the genuine centre ground. The Lib Dems embody the paradigm that we are currently all living in - a wishy washy economic and social liberalism - and this permeates into the other two parties and reinforces those ideas through them - because Labour and Conservative are both rudderless and pretty much out of ideas, they inadvertently rely on the parties in the middle to generate their policies for them largely. If the Lib Dems go and are replaced by another party with different values, the SDP ideas will be more visible and people will gravitate towards it because it really is the most logical next step in British politics. And then, as with the Lib Dems before them, the SDP will gradually start to influence Labour and Tory policy - but the key to change has to be undermining the Lib Dems who have sat comfortable as a protest party for far too long.
@@MrXaphus an interesting take. For the most part, UKIP was so successful not because they threatened to win a general election but because they threatened to fracture the right wing electorate, therefore forcing the Tories to reluctantly change. Although they were lying when they said they had changed, the point is well made. Perhaps the SDP could have a similar effect
I agree, the voting system does just that. But I don't think PR gives people like you and me real democracy. It still creates political elites. I believe you've got to change democracy itself. Liquid Democracy would take power from politicians and give it to the people to either voting directly or freely change their representative candidates whenever they so wished. The people deserve more democracy and a say in their country than having to stay in a straitjacket with a political party (even though they'd still be free to do so within a Liquid Democracy system).
@@chrisdavie8163 I like the Swiss model of direct democracy whereby you can even vote on each individual immigrant you allow to get citizenship. A referendum on everything from whether Mr Singh the doctor or Ahmed the groomer gets to stay, whether we teach white children they are evil or not & whether we have energy independence or net zero. Such direct democracy would mostly work in our favour & when it didn’t? At least it would be actual democracy rather than the technocracy of the managerial elites
@@honestjohn6418 I truly think having a referendum on every single migrant would take forever and nobody would have the time, although you could propose a petition to meet a quota to enact a referendum for that very thing as Liquid Democracy would allow it. There would need to be much broader questions asked such as "should we limit imm-igration?" if "yes" was answered then a further final question could be asked "How do you propose this?" with an ABCD scenario to choose from and the politicians would have to deliver whatever the majority outcome was. As I said, a referendum could only be enacted if a petition quota was met in the first place. Political parties could still be in Westminster. Politicians could still have manifesto pledges, but the public would be able to vote along with MPs on the final says within the same timeframe MPs are allowed.
And yet we hear the word itself, ‘community’ everywhere and worse, we have somehow found ourselves listening to unelected ‘community leaders’ whatever they are.
It irritates me no end that all the smaller parties on the right arent coming under one banner. Is there a fear that doing so will just turn into Tory 2.0 with insurmountable differences in ideas? To my mind none of you smaller parties are far apart on the major issues. Get yourselves in one room, SDP, Reform, Reclaim etc etc and figure out where your ideas are, get together and hammer out a meeting and mingling of minds. I like the SDP I also like Reform and Reclaim, I cant vote for all of you.
@BusyBrittain sorry yes you are right on the economic part. But its the cultural and patriotic side I suppose i was referring to. Should have made that clearer.
