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Manchester United v Arsenal 1990-91 

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On 20 October 1990 Arsenal travelled to Old Trafford to play Manchester United in the First Division of the Football League. Anders Limpar put Arsenal 1-0 up but the talking point of the game (and the season) was when Brian McClair gave Nigel Winterburn a good kicking as Winterburn was on the ground. This resulted in a mass brawl / a bit of handbags* which saw Arsenal deducted 2 points and United 1 point. Arsenal went on to win the League despite the points deduction.
Bad feelings amongst the clubs perpetuated for many years after this.
There is also a short interview with Lee Dixon at the end of the clip.

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Комментарии : 256   
@GodOfVictory501
@GodOfVictory501 6 лет назад
Let's all just be honest: on-pitch brawls are fuckin' brilliant. I love watching them break out.
@aaquibtayyabi
@aaquibtayyabi 4 года назад
Now all utd and Arsenal players are wimps.
@mikmac220
@mikmac220 3 года назад
Should be given extra points for games like this. ... other teams after this game had brawls and No points deducted. ... Try and figure that one out?
@oliverphillips5026
@oliverphillips5026 3 года назад
@@aaquibtayyabi facts
@stephenmacdonald76
@stephenmacdonald76 2 года назад
im with you all the way on thst one
@Chris-nq9nb
@Chris-nq9nb 2 года назад
So true! People who don't like it should just watch golf 😂
@jamesrichings356
@jamesrichings356 7 лет назад
1:31 - 1:36 RIP Les Sealy and David Rocastle
@ldanzamariastile3536
@ldanzamariastile3536 6 лет назад
strange isn't it how sealy was holding rocastle back from fighting and both of them passed away young
@mrl6863
@mrl6863 5 лет назад
@@ldanzamariastile3536 i didnt know the keeper died
@ldanzamariastile3536
@ldanzamariastile3536 5 лет назад
@@mrl6863 yes sadly les sealy died 17 years ago
@AlexGarcia-co1ec
@AlexGarcia-co1ec 4 года назад
Wow, didn't even know that Les Sealey had passed away, even though it was "close to a lifetime" ago. And he was only a year older than I am now, when he died. So sad. RIP Les & Rocky
@Sh0ckmaster
@Sh0ckmaster 4 года назад
RIP Rocky, he was a good guy.
@mrkipling2201
@mrkipling2201 3 года назад
Proper football here. None of today’s crap. Atmosphere, terraces, tackling. No play acting or ponces on 200 grand a week.
@devononair
@devononair 2 года назад
Okay Grandad.
@SW-kr9fl
@SW-kr9fl Месяц назад
Agreed. And also the football was actually very technical, tactically astute and fast paced. Many modern fans just call it hoof ball when there was a lot more going on.
@capokhatpin
@capokhatpin 9 лет назад
Miss those days. RIP David Rocastle.
@ldanzamariastile3536
@ldanzamariastile3536 8 лет назад
+capokhatpin sad seeing him and sealy together like that seeing as both of them are no longer with us and both of them died the same year 10 yrs after this match
@bertiebert9966
@bertiebert9966 5 лет назад
How good was football in these days ? A simple game , all 3pm kick offs , characters in each team , real players , real loyal players . No Sky biased towards teams . No high inflated wages , no over hyped players . Love Georgie Graham , the tough Scot who installed what it meant to play for The Arsenal. Georgie Graham is the foundation to which The Emirates is built on , not Arsene Wenger but Georgie Graham. Thank you Stroller Graham . The foundation maker to the Arsenal that is today .
@lodersracing
@lodersracing 5 лет назад
Bertie Bert 100%
@seankane1484
@seankane1484 4 года назад
shame he betrayed us and ruined his legacy
@UKDarkPredator
@UKDarkPredator 4 года назад
@Mad Man 1 United, Liverpool and Spurs. You can tell by the way they employ pundits mainly from those teams. I.e. Neville/Keane, Carragher/McManaman and Jermaine Jenas.
@mx19idlewilder
@mx19idlewilder 3 года назад
Boring, boring Arsenal! That's what Graham was. And you could heard it in whole England!
@mx19idlewilder
@mx19idlewilder 3 года назад
@@bakaweiner6956 yeah... can't remember how many european cups did you have? could you remind me?
@otimoluk
@otimoluk 7 лет назад
1:32 it's hard to think both those players have passed away.
@arsenal2death
@arsenal2death 3 года назад
Its mind bogglin
@aidtom3503
@aidtom3503 2 года назад
May they rip, Just finished Wright and rocky documentary heartbreaking ,for his family and friends.
@TOSILENCE77
@TOSILENCE77 8 лет назад
Love the goal celebrations in the away end
@rahman5541
@rahman5541 7 лет назад
Absolutely amazing
@stuartmcburney6462
@stuartmcburney6462 3 года назад
No yellow cards for utd
@InvisibleYetVisible
@InvisibleYetVisible 2 года назад
@@rahman5541 let's be honest, you weren't there were you....
@Asrarulhaq2011
@Asrarulhaq2011 6 лет назад
ROCKY - what a legend
@sarnobat2000
@sarnobat2000 6 лет назад
I'm a Liverpool fan, but one of the things I like about Arsenal is that the players have always stood up for themselves. There's no way to beat a Ferguson team by being "nice". A red card here or there to tell others you aren't intimidated by them goes a long way..
@bighands69
@bighands69 6 лет назад
That was a truly horrible tackle by the Arsenal player. He went into try and hurt that player. His feet were of the ground. Even back then that was considered disgusting. McClair should not have kicked him but neither should that tackle have been made.
@shawarma2896
@shawarma2896 4 года назад
@arsenal0782 pretty sure being a United fan these days is worse mate. Your two rivals challenging for the title. At least Tottenham isn't doing well so y'all atleast have that.
@Smith89123
@Smith89123 2 года назад
Are you joking? They’ve been the softest cunts in the league for the last 2 decades.
@jaxcoss5790
@jaxcoss5790 10 месяцев назад
Don't be ridiculous, it wasn't that bad. However, you seriously think the Manc players kicking someone whilst they're on the ground was okay?! Pack that nonsense in.
@telephonic
@telephonic 4 года назад
It was handbags, amazing they were points deducted for that.
@jovidbodurkhonov7623
@jovidbodurkhonov7623 3 года назад
@Boris The Blade Man Utd rules. Facts are facts
@kunle1928
@kunle1928 3 года назад
Arsenal were involved in a brawl, 2 years before that I think against Norwich. This is why they had a 2 point deduction, and United only 1.
@ZeldaFitz
@ZeldaFitz 2 года назад
Graham’s best arsenal team was the 90-91 title winners. The almost invisibles! We even had 2 points deducted after this game but still went on to win the league title.
@malsmith1618
@malsmith1618 2 года назад
And only missed out going invincible losing to Chelsea
@hakc97again
@hakc97again Год назад
@@malsmith1618 Screw those bastards. I knew there was more to the Chelsea-Arsenal rivalry
@shellsbignumber2
@shellsbignumber2 7 месяцев назад
Yeah we only lost one league game that season to Chelsea. Graham's Arsenal team of the late 80's early 90's is probably one of the most underrated English teams ever.
@jeannotschumacher1024
@jeannotschumacher1024 6 месяцев назад
​@@shellsbignumber2very very true, especially the 1991 one
@jeannotschumacher1024
@jeannotschumacher1024 6 месяцев назад
​@@shellsbignumber2 have a watch also for the 1986- 88 teams.
@stevee6305
@stevee6305 9 лет назад
love the passion. Need more of that these days. It doesent help that everything players do is under the microscope which in turn has generated robots who say the right things, do the right things and so there's no characters.
@GregRandles69
@GregRandles69 7 лет назад
I don't know how both teams got fined and points deducted for this, nothing bad really happened, considering this was in an era when football was still regarded as a 'man's game'
@stannats2637
@stannats2637 7 лет назад
Fucking loved that Arsenal kit
@redkem80
@redkem80 10 лет назад
Aaaaaaaahhh those were the days!
@scottfinlayson5446
@scottfinlayson5446 Год назад
I remember the re-match at Highbury.We had won the league earlier in the day as Liverpool drew at Forrest.We told the FA where to stick their 2 points.
@paddyandhisguitar2831
@paddyandhisguitar2831 Год назад
I was a junior gunner at the rematch at Highbury. Great times.
@mattjackson7445
@mattjackson7445 3 года назад
Absolutely no punishment for Man U or any of their players? Sounds about right 😉
@Geokinkladze
@Geokinkladze 2 года назад
They were deducted a point. Which was half the gunners. The press went all out for the Arsenal players, including the the ITV pundits.
@alanoflynn9645
@alanoflynn9645 3 года назад
Anders Limpar is the reason I started supporting Arsenal COYG
@JasW79
@JasW79 Год назад
What cause ure a coward and like attacking ppl from behind ...fair enough 😅
@Andrew-hl3tk
@Andrew-hl3tk 6 лет назад
Lee Dixon, Brilliant lad
@lirastanley390
@lirastanley390 3 года назад
The war between them began so long ago😉...rest in eternal love and peace David
@kevaaalahh9033
@kevaaalahh9033 2 года назад
First game my Dad took me to aged 9, and we lost! The brawl happened right in front of me too
@gadaboutunited
@gadaboutunited 2 года назад
Lost 2 characters of the games since then, Les Sealey & David Rocastle, ironically one calming down the other to the end of the fracas. RIP fellas
@richardv.7826
@richardv.7826 3 года назад
30 years on . . . Boy I miss watching the game at the stadium!
@criostoirocuinn
@criostoirocuinn 3 года назад
How Arsenal were deemed the guilty party I'll never understand, the state of Mc Clair and co kicking Winterburn on the ground is arguably the worst thing to happen on a football pitch since Bloody Sunday
@TomWardComedian
@TomWardComedian 2 года назад
haha
@princesofthepower3690
@princesofthepower3690 2 года назад
That’s was a nasty challenge from Winterburn though, even for 1990s standards.
@pauladdae3130
@pauladdae3130 Год назад
Well McClair wasn't such a bad man when Limpar smacked him and when Michael Thomas stepped to him.
@JasW79
@JasW79 Год назад
A leg breaking tackle kinda set it off then the cowardly attack on McClair from Limpar ..
@MrAngryorangutan
@MrAngryorangutan Год назад
For doing a horrible dirty challenge. The United players should have stepped on his head
@shaka7594
@shaka7594 9 месяцев назад
Was there with me dad and gf at the time, always feisty between McClair & Winterburn, if only we kept Big Norm & Mcgrath, would've caused even more mayhem
@bobstermaher
@bobstermaher 7 лет назад
not an arsenal fan but that was probably dave seamans best season of his entire career .
@LARK-ht7kd
@LARK-ht7kd Год назад
Seaman was incredibly overrated
@jeannotschumacher1024
@jeannotschumacher1024 6 месяцев назад
I agree. He was superb that season. From the late 80th to 1996, he was superb. Forget the fluke saragossa goal . It will always be a fluke. But after his injury in late 97 early 98 he lost a lot of his abilities. Wengers first and one of his bigger mistakes was to drob Manninger in 1998 after the league win and to reinstall Seaman.
@raindancerave8521
@raindancerave8521 2 года назад
Super super swede super super swede super super swede super Anders Limpar Was in the away end that day great times EIE
@rmkw4291
@rmkw4291 3 года назад
Arsenal had two points deducted because of the brawl, Man Utd had one point also. I don't think this has happened since but they're not as strict now on rivalry/derby skirmishes like they were before the Premier League.
@callumrankin8292
@callumrankin8292 5 лет назад
Love how it was only yellow cards
@CYP0
@CYP0 4 года назад
So began the greatest football rivalry of all time. Pivotal.
@JH-sj1di
@JH-sj1di 4 года назад
It was a great rivalry in the late 90's, but it does not compare to United and Liverpool
@chrisdouglas2394
@chrisdouglas2394 Год назад
The rivalry started in 1987.
@jeannotschumacher1024
@jeannotschumacher1024 6 месяцев назад
​@@JH-sj1difrom early 80th to nowadays
@jeannotschumacher1024
@jeannotschumacher1024 6 месяцев назад
​@@chrisdouglas2394brian mcclair? 😂😂
@nikreece6295
@nikreece6295 4 года назад
This was proper football of the yester-decades.. Not the shite, overpaid, wannabe oscar winning, ponses you have today... RIP David Rocastle and Les Sealey
@gildasgrime7808
@gildasgrime7808 4 года назад
Ah man, it's like a million years ago to how the game is now. Not a critique, it's just different.
@rohithraman6488
@rohithraman6488 Год назад
This game in this video might be on a bigger scale, but watching this reminds me of when I watched the Holland v Argentina game in the world cup
@keithwaterhouse8310
@keithwaterhouse8310 4 года назад
I was at that game and remember it very well, I really thought some fans were gonna run on the pitch was chaos
@raindancerave8521
@raindancerave8521 2 года назад
Was chaos outside especially at the coach park EIE
@tommyd6772
@tommyd6772 Год назад
Football, back in the day, was absolutely epic.
@gadaboutunited
@gadaboutunited 2 года назад
I saw him interviewed and Choccy himself is not sure how he didn't get sent off...and he was never sent off in his career.
@Xgeneration28
@Xgeneration28 4 года назад
well said Lee Dixon at the end..
@dondamon4669
@dondamon4669 7 месяцев назад
Ferguson always admired Tony Adams and why he seeked out him to calm it down. Adams should of been a Manchester United player but he wasn't as good as Bruce or Pallister by quite a bit
@garethjenkins6273
@garethjenkins6273 4 месяца назад
Haha😂😂😂 .... Wait, you were being serious?
@Non-Stick_Pan
@Non-Stick_Pan Год назад
I remember being about 9 years old reading about this on the back page of my dad's copy of The Sun then waiting for Shoot! magazine to come out which had the sanitised version xD
@jawadarif5676
@jawadarif5676 4 года назад
How many watching this after McClain podcast at full time devil
@Oliver-zm2ho
@Oliver-zm2ho Год назад
I remembered this being a huge fight but it's just a bit of pushing for 3 seconds and that's it.
@dazza944
@dazza944 3 года назад
“Second half brawl” Few players pushing eachother 🤣
@ivifizz
@ivifizz 3 года назад
Guess you didn't see Anders Limpar smack Brian McClair in the face then
@dazza944
@dazza944 3 года назад
@@ivifizz of course. That image has stuck in my mind for years. But still not a brawl. It had potential to really kick off but it was mostly argey bargey and players stopping it from escalating
@ruairiose7335
@ruairiose7335 2 года назад
@@dazza944 I clicked onto it expecting fists flying. Not a single punch 😂 They were deducted points for this? I think football from this era has an overhyped reputation for being a hard game. Much harder than today’s game but let’s face it that wouldn’t be hard
@KP56SS
@KP56SS Год назад
Arsenal 2 points deducted, still won the league..
@eddiearniwhatever
@eddiearniwhatever 7 месяцев назад
That doesn't seem like a serious brawl to me. Why were points deducted for that one in particular?
@CR19917
@CR19917 3 года назад
Looks like two United players kicked Winterburn when he was on the ground - which ultimately started the brawl. Yet Arsenal were deducted more points?
@Bloodclart16
@Bloodclart16 4 года назад
That United kit was a thing of beauty
@jovidbodurkhonov7623
@jovidbodurkhonov7623 3 года назад
Legendary
@pelcenglishcourses1841
@pelcenglishcourses1841 2 года назад
now we've got Odegaard and Smith-Rowe adjusting their quiffs all the time
@truthwinsuk2555
@truthwinsuk2555 Год назад
THE GOOD OLD DAYS
@Lattszero
@Lattszero 3 года назад
If that was Neymar being kicked the guys kicking him would of been sentence to life for brutal murder.
@mrbedford
@mrbedford 2 года назад
i miss football
@JonWilde2105
@JonWilde2105 Год назад
Professional amnesia.... It was a bad tackle initially. In those days, the only guys to regulate bad tackles were players who knew what a serious injury meant. So thing's escalated quickly I guess.
@mikmac220
@mikmac220 3 года назад
No wonder the breakaway happened 1 year's later after the points deductions
@LawAcieIV
@LawAcieIV 2 года назад
Why did Arsenal get 2 points deducted and United only 1??
@Jayfive276
@Jayfive276 8 месяцев назад
Fair play for Tony Adams for trying to break things up.
@chrisrowe7503
@chrisrowe7503 Год назад
One thing is for sure, George Graham's players at Arsenal were toughnuts as that's because of his intense training methods and no nonsense attitude. Something that's being mirrored by Mikel Arteta now.
@reggiejames7812
@reggiejames7812 3 года назад
Oh the days before football went corporate....love it. Away end mental in those days as well, good following the Gooners had before the Yuppies showed up.
@williamgeoffreyjones3421
@williamgeoffreyjones3421 2 года назад
Exactly what Ferguson wanted Confrontational Football
@jafwilding
@jafwilding 4 года назад
Gary Imlach!
@theRedswin5ucl
@theRedswin5ucl 7 лет назад
Rocky 7
@echolot
@echolot 9 лет назад
the gaffer at 01:16
@itsmrfish1
@itsmrfish1 2 года назад
Utd fan I was right in front of it all
@stuartl6454
@stuartl6454 10 лет назад
Cowardly of Mc Clair to kick winterburn while he is lying on the ground, still he paid the penalty for it later ; )
@hooligoonerherdeie9682
@hooligoonerherdeie9682 6 лет назад
yeah, well said.
@bighands69
@bighands69 6 лет назад
The guy that was on the ground just made a disgusting tackle even for that era. It was not that he when in hard it was he went in with both feet of the gound.
@MisterNorum
@MisterNorum 3 года назад
He deserved it, winterburn is a pussy
@murchuan8782
@murchuan8782 3 года назад
@Santos Lewynn he went 2 footed above his ankle not for the ball, if he connected with his leg he would have ended his career, he deserved every kick he got... he didn't do it again.
@murchuan8782
@murchuan8782 3 года назад
@Santos Lewynn listen you bollix, it was a leg breaker tackle and he deserved every kick he got
@MichaelCasanovaMusic
@MichaelCasanovaMusic 9 лет назад
Don't see stuff like this these days
@maratonlegendelenemirei3352
I see a ManU player kicking an Arsenal player whilst he's on the ground? FA deduct 2 points from Arsenal?????
@christoduplessis8177
@christoduplessis8177 3 года назад
They got docked points for that 😳 I thought men were men back in the day 🤷‍♂️ Also, an Arsenal team with some fight in it, those really were different times.
@ky9319
@ky9319 2 года назад
Arsenal are historically known for being a tough team it was only when Wenger came he changed everything.
@hakc97again
@hakc97again 10 месяцев назад
@@ky9319 They still had a toughness about them in the early years. Remember the sequel to this fight 13 years later?
@dambra007
@dambra007 10 лет назад
Hello
@MrGoneTroppo
@MrGoneTroppo 3 года назад
Proper ruck
@RoadmanRob8
@RoadmanRob8 3 года назад
I wasn’t even that bad to warrant what punishment that was given. There was a little something else going on behind the scenes that the fa wanted putting to bed. But that’s another story
@carlmarl6531
@carlmarl6531 3 года назад
Mad that Arsenal were deducted more points for this "brawl" when it really was just two united cowards kicking a player on the floor. But hey, their influence in the FA that fucked over so many teams finally paid off when they spent over 1bn and won no english league titles.
@kimlog7476
@kimlog7476 3 года назад
Absolute travesty it was!
@ChrisDanceMusic
@ChrisDanceMusic 2 года назад
We won at least
@giggstrafford1
@giggstrafford1 Год назад
Karl pilkinton 😲
@yute-hube779
@yute-hube779 Год назад
_"We won 1-0"_ lol get the champagne out... they have never beaten us *8-2* have they!
@SASZA.101
@SASZA.101 Год назад
JVC product was not so SHARP those days.. Hence the bad behavior to make up..
@MrKeefelm
@MrKeefelm 10 лет назад
Brawl?! Hardly, proper handbags stuff! Wasn't a goal either!
@pump1606
@pump1606 9 лет назад
it was a goal cos it counted... was you on the goal line ? the only people who matter were the ref and linesman and they gave it as a goal.....Tottenham scored from the half way line against you... we all clearly saw it go over the line by a metre but its down as a shot only cos a goal wasn't given.... so who gives a fuck ?? we beat you that day and took the piss and won the league easily
@DavidKnowles0
@DavidKnowles0 7 лет назад
I say it was a goal, the goal keep hands were well over the line.
@waynelappin3211
@waynelappin3211 5 месяцев назад
The limbs in the away end are incredible
@lodersracing
@lodersracing 7 лет назад
0:57 Winterburn getting a kicking lol
@hooligoonerherdeie9682
@hooligoonerherdeie9682 6 лет назад
stfu you mong.
@Sidneyyoungblood75
@Sidneyyoungblood75 4 года назад
Clearly not over the line even though the referee was in a great position. As for winterburn, he's always been a snidey fucking weasel Limpar was a lovely little player. Ahead of his time at Arsenal.
@eamoncrawford2527
@eamoncrawford2527 4 года назад
Wanker
@tuckwatsellers
@tuckwatsellers 3 года назад
It was . I sneaked into the Manchester United cage next to the Arsenal fans and was looking right along the goal line.
@jovidbodurkhonov7623
@jovidbodurkhonov7623 3 года назад
It was a goal. Even Ferguson himself admitted that
@downtoten5252
@downtoten5252 Год назад
Is that it? 😂
@ald1050
@ald1050 4 года назад
So racist and predjudice punishing all those Arsenal players. Mcclair should have been sent off for kicking Winterburn on the ground.. Racist FA fining the Arsenal players...so nasty. Shame on them!
@Sidneyyoungblood75
@Sidneyyoungblood75 4 года назад
Racist????WTF?? Arsenal are a different race to everyone else? Hang on, you're right. I've always hated Arsenal all my life, haven't a reason why but now it's come to me why..... The fans. Every arsenal fan I've ever met has been an unjustified arrogant cunt....
@ald1050
@ald1050 4 года назад
@@Sidneyyoungblood75 Come on Steven most Arsenal fans are decent compared to all the other teams you may know. Yes some can be arrogant but Man Utd fans are worse overall but not as Bad as teams such as Chelsea or Millwall. I like to keep an open mind but my point was that Arsenal have always had a higher number of Black ethnic and irish players over the years and this played a part in the FA's prejudice to punish Arsenal for what happened in this game compared to Man Utd. If not please explain why Arsenal got the harsh end of the stick when it was Brian Mcclair who started the brawl by kicking Nigel Winterburn on the ground after the tackle??
@jovidbodurkhonov7623
@jovidbodurkhonov7623 3 года назад
Racist? You’re moron as hell
@ald1050
@ald1050 3 года назад
@@jovidbodurkhonov7623 Go fuck yourself. If you can't comment then go to hell. Moron pie.
@jovidbodurkhonov7623
@jovidbodurkhonov7623 3 года назад
@@ald1050 Man Utd rules. Deal with it
@hnune678
@hnune678 2 года назад
Shows how far back man u where being protected
@AyeTVsco
@AyeTVsco 2 года назад
go on mcclair
@Lattszero
@Lattszero 4 года назад
Who else thought the number 4 was Patrick Vieira for a second?
@jaxcoss5790
@jaxcoss5790 4 года назад
errrrr...... no.
@Sidneyyoungblood75
@Sidneyyoungblood75 4 года назад
Michael Thomas
@hakc97again
@hakc97again 2 месяца назад
Dude no...
@Jordan-B-Trappin
@Jordan-B-Trappin 7 лет назад
Boooooooooo!!!!!!!!! Man Utd should win
@mitch2620
@mitch2620 Год назад
Nothing compared to the game at OT a few seasons before!
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