I always get a kick out of watching the young heifers jump for joy when they get new bedding. Those gals are really happy and feeling good. Thanks again Eric. Great stuff.
Eric, great video, I actually work at a dealer that sells Manitou equipment. If you want something with even better visibility and versatility, you should take a look at the MLT 420, which is the smallest model Manitou makes. Very comparable to a skid steer
I love our Manitou at work! I never experienced a JCB before so I can’t compare much. We have the exact same model you are demoing and we use ours for everything. Mainly feeding and stacking bales, any fork lift job, loading our grain drill, and so much more. Don’t really have any complaints about it.
@FUCK SHIT Whatever. My experience is that they were generally simpeler and have less stuff that can break. Maybe that's irrelevant to the new machines. There's no need to get angery for I wasn't talking about your mom or something.
@Attilio Antonucci i work a machinery yard, it’s been running for a brave while and JCBs come and go, boss loves them and keeps buying but the manitou is consistently reliable. The merlo is a good machine too although I haven’t got much time in the seat so I’ll not do much speaking on it.
Well look at you guys... Rolling in the demos! That's awesome... Hopefully one of those machines are very useful to you and become something that you decide to hold on to and continue using around the farm so you can get your jobs done a little easier.
Hey, just wanted to say I like the videos where you go over your equipment and pretty much review it. I like the more technical side of farming and when you go through your facility explaining how things work it’s awesome. Thanks
There you are working your day as usual and here I am watching you work. Nice equipment your doing a demonstration on. You have so much energy, I wish I had 1/4 you have. Looking good and healthy. Stay safe where ever you are. See you the next posting. Tom in Minneapolis.
Those heifers really love it when you add new bedding, watching them jump and kick their heels up is enjoyable. Looked to me like that Manitou works really nice in tight spaces. I think the JCB is good too, but as your dad said, they probably will take a little getting use to. It seems to me everything you talked about, after shaving the silage off, was right on the mark. Great video, love the demo, thanks for sharing and y'all have a fantastic, safe week.
I have had a manitou for at least 15 years, great machine very reliable, but the let down is when something does go wrong dealer in my area has trouble getting parts, up to 6 months, purchased JCB in hope of better service, crap machine, keeps breaking down, useless dealer service, the machine you have on demo is the same as the one the dealer used to give us as a loaner when ours was being repaired, had constant overheating issues, even with blowing radiator out every hour. Our actual JCB we owned, just could not keep running, traded when we started loosing reverse drive yet again. Now run Dieci, had for over two years now with only minor issues which the dealer had fixed within 24 hours of calling, JCB dealer told me I would regret buying a Dieci, can not imagine why the JCB never went 2 months without a breakdown of some kind
Gosh! The new machine looks like the Lunar Rover! Before your time! Almost before mine. The cows sure love when you put new bedding in. Fun to watch them. Thank you for your videos.
Congratulations on your success. Nice to see the Vendors recognizing a good sponsor. I'm happy for you and your family. Love the Manitoba, hope I said that right. Lol. Looks like my UTV. Hope 2022 is your success. Keep the videos coming.
I’m sticking to my previous position. Unless you have excess money to spend, keep what is paid-for as long as it can be reasonably maintained. (That is, annual repair costs are less than new machine payments.). However, this does not account for loss of use due to down time if you don’t have backup equipment.
That manitou is a beauty, and 4 wheel steering. It's nice to run at seventy five percent and never be straining the machine. Nice having two toys to try. You can compare things right then and there. Good video. Pax.
We have that exact 625 on our horse farm. It is very good. The front lights and mirrors get broken of regularly, but the mechanics of the machine are bulletproof. But ultimately it comes down to what your favorite dealer/workshop sells for the least amount of money.
I do not know what motors are installed in these chargers for the US market. But in our Europe, Mercedes engines are installed. And farmers are not mechanically satisfied with these motors. In addition, they have problems with starting during freezing temperatures. Greetings from Poland
We just bought the same model for work. I like the crab steer mode, which makes movement more efficient when defacing the bunkers. We have had trouble hooking up hydraulics for the defacer, even with the pressure release button. It has a lower flow rate than most skid steers, making the shaver slower, making the haylage bunker a pain to face properly. Also noticed that you can't grab more than 2 bales of 3x4 at a time.
Remember that gehl and Manitou are essentially the same machine, and I personally like the jcb tm320 for most work if the same nature. I think the center boom for better view of the load, articulated steering is something you have to learn but is great, lifting capacity, fuel capacity, tire size and wheel base, etc. Is more than worth the extra money in the long run. (It weighs over 24k lbs and we've used to help pack bunkers before, especially to fill in pockets along the walls) You're talking $87k vs $120k.
The radius on the boom: tilt the “bucket” (shaver) tilt very much down. While lowering the boom raise the shaver tilt back up proportionally. This should solve your issue of the curvature on the shaver. Thank you for sharing
Always interesting to try out new equipment even if it doesn't perform the way you need. Sometimes its a learning curve, sometimes its just the nature of the beast. Never hurts to clarify what works best for you.
Good video. Great to be able to try out new equipment. It seems the JCB has a real long wheel base which may limit it's use in some of your farm work, but it can handle the heavier loads. The Manitou seems like it can get into tighter spots. May be a good machine for your farm. Hard to try a new piece of equipment with all the gadgets and variables especially when you are so used to the skid steer. Have to weigh the pros and cons of each machine. And of course there is the cost issue to deal with too. Some manufacturers really are proud of their equipment and the price reveals that, case in point anything painted bright Green, but no names dropped here........
Its a learning curve. But you will love these over a skid steer .. tip.. boom out when you hook up. You will see it so much better. Boom out when your using the saw dust spreader. It will increase your visibility 50% . Boom out when you shave . It wont be so drastic... get my point. Lol
Thanks for all the nice videos,,,"around the farm". Eric, Don't mean to sound like your grandmother,,but,, be very very aware when you are connecting hydraulic hoses and looking right at them,,only a couple feet away. Try and look away when you start connecting. Just putting into perspective... about 4 years ago,here where we live at a mining truck factory a couple guys were test cycling hydraulics on a new machine. They were suppose to be inside a protective'heavy steel "phone booth" type deal,,they were not. The hose (new) broke at the crimp on section the hydraulic pressure hit both of them in the chest.They were both killed instantly,unfortunately.
What an opportunity to compare these two head-to-head. Too bad it didn't happen during your planting season, as either one would be great for lifting the seed bags high enough to fill the drill. Definitely a plus for the extending in that regard. Have a fun couple of days playing with demo equipment! Enjoy!
Facer on the manitou - if you angle the facer down (you would have to raise the manitou boom up then to get to the top of the silage)it would come down in more of a straight line. Just have to play with the angles I think. It may be beneficial to have an inward angle to the silage pile tho.
Just saw the figures, in this weeks farmers paper in Ireland , about 400 small telescopic loaders sold in 2020 new and one new skid steer manitou was the most popular with c. 170 units of various models and JCB next with c. 80 units .
It would be a big difference but at the same time would be so hard on tires as you are turning, not mess up the gravel as much, and would be handy for loading seed into the planter either way nice to demo something different can’t wait to see yalls thoughts
hi, myself Yuvi, m from India, I like your videos and the way working in the Dairy, for all the works you will be described very well. m very interested to come there to see you and to adopt the technology used in the Dairy.... in the future, if m very lucky!! sure I will come and visit your place.
personal preference, I personally hate them. I find that they mess with my depth perception a little bit too. Especially when working inside of enclosed buildings where I want all the visibility I can get. I’ve never had a single object just fall onto a piece of equipment I was using, randomly. If you’re working in wooded areas, where limbs can come back and slap the machine then they’re definitely useful; but for most farm jobs/scenarios. Not so much.
@@Thatguy-fg4fp I can see that for some people and certain uses they could be a pain. We use ours for a variety of purposes and I like the protection it gives but as you said that's simply personal preference.
I maintain a fleet of 6 625’s, can confirm they are a great machine, just don’t fill the hydraulic tank with diesel ! Hydraulic oil change at 1000hrs is really important to avoid wear in the danfos hydrostatic transmission
Binky and Hurst best dealer ever we live in Somerset County pa and we deal a lot with them. Almost all of our local dairy farmers have the mintours tellhandlers and the went to them for JCB. So i suggest mintours but, its just a suggestion.
Like everything you have to judge the amount of work and time against cost and of course Safety has to be a big factor ! Our tools should make our lifes easier and safer to get us home to our family's in the way we left ! GOD BLESS Y'ALL !!!
Regarding where you were saying about not being able to lift/lower the boom without telescoping in and adjusting the carriage to get a consistent face on the silage clamp. I know the Wacker Neuson loaders have a vertical lifting system feature which will tele out or in automatically while the boom is lifting or lowering which achieves, well, a vertical lift surprisingly.
If you are trying to decide on a machine, I recommend trying to decide on something that fits your needs than something that you like the controls of. I have used multiple telehandalers and the differences I have seen is what they can do vs. what the controls is like, you get use to the controls no what the machine
Ride the brake on the manitou when operating at high rpm to go forward and reverse so you aren't jumping to high speed. The brake is simply a speed reduce your foot is almost always on it
@@10thgenerationdairyman61 for instance, if you're loading your spreader you want high rpms to get more flow to the boom for lifting and extending, by riding the brake you can completely control the speed and creep closer to the spreader. you'll get used to it right away. Another thing, on mine the boom suspension is almost always on, makes for a much smoother ride and saves your pins. Love your videos. Great job
Demo Days, great way to see what is new and exciting on the market place. Windshield guard is removed for much better vision. Replacing the windshield on your demo unit will be very costly. Do not break that curved piece of tempered glass. Very expensive!! Great videos!
You can use the brake pedal as kind of a clutch to drive slow with high revs. We have a similar setup and if you let it in gear and keep the revs high you can just use the brake pedal as clutch. Since it is a hydrostatic drive this does not wear in that case. Did it for the last 6500hrs and still works
I can see you buying one. Its like anything new give it time and you'll see the difference it makes, try shifting hay bales as it has a pin attachment at the back or shift some cows or heifers with a trailer on it. with the silage part maybe angle it and boom in and out with that.
Hi there Eric love the video. We’re fortunate enough to have a side boom manitou and a centre pivot jcb both have there uses. For the dairy side centre pivot every time u should try one before buy
Great awesome video, first it’s a jcb now a manitou lol , look at Eric go. It’s quite obvious that Eric is trying something that’s a better fit , your tire wear on ur skid steer those machines would not be as bad , great video Eric Best thing is the visablity Just have to get use to it between you and your dad of course
i do think i can see a few advantages the telehandlers have: they have a better lifting capacity to skitsteers as they're built to handle more weight and a few more horsepower with possibly more visibility and i am sure cabin safety is almost egual based on the weight they need to withstand with the weight of the vehicles and i am sure on a farm topspeed isn't really necessary just as long it can go from point A to point B relatively safe the thing i believe the skitsteer has advantage of compared to the telehandler is the skitsteer can almost turn on the spot and it can work in a narrower spots with seating comfort i dunno as i haven't driven either and as you have i'd like to know what comfort difference there is between the 3 you've different i'm sure you can feel the difference
Skidsteer does turn harder but then it also tears up the ground or beds when it turns hard and if on hard surfaces wears the tires faster than the tele.
@@williamgleaves1954 well that's a problem it seems and i just say what i believe i know about skitsteers and both has their own positives and negatives and their own jobs they're best at and maybe it could be an alright idea to buy both but maybe a teleskitsteer would be best?
We really liked the Manitou 625, but ended up with a Bobcat v519. The reason for our choice was stability. We transfer loads across uneven ground and the larger tires and wider stance made for a little more stable ride.
For the high rpm/driving part, i always hold the brake when using high rpm and driving. No its not a telehandler but a small wheelloader but basicly works the same
Looks like the tele would be better for most jobs but you still need the skid-steer for those tight spaces where being more compact with zero turn is better.