Manly .P. Hall : The life and death 

Yikes

another kook who dealt in lies.

Well isn't that random. What about the Coriloas Effect?

@@Bobbarker3833gmail LOL…manly p. Hall believed it was stationary…no coriloas effect has been debunked many times

@@yoloswagali2646 . Nothing surprises me, everything we're taught, pans out as a lie. I think it would Be a Torroid if anything, but there is litterally no way for us Plebs to confirm, once and for all, shape of what we find ourselves living in. Perhaps it isn't material at all and materiality is an illusion. Again, you can never show concrete evidence, that would sway those who don't want the "crazy person" label, that I so proudly wear. I'm open to any possibilities, listen to everything, but beleive nothing I cant verify, by laying the model over nature. I'm not one of the hypnotized sheep, I'm not a newb to any extra mainstream narratives. Where can I find solid information, that may lend credence to this the stationary, flat plane idea? I'll certainly give it my due diligence. Thanks

@@Bobbarker3833gmail interesting…I don’t have proof. I’ve only done meticulous research. But I believe because I believe in Jesus Christ and in the Bible it says it’s “flat”..firmament. Also you should listen to mindunveiled, Eric Dubay, ODDTV and hibbeler productions. I also think nasa and all other space exploration was a tax scam..

@@yoloswagali2646 . 10-4. Yeah, I've looked at the same passages most likely and if you use the Strongs Concordance for translation (if you call the Bible your Truth, it is an absolute must) and I beleive firmament translates as "vast expanse," or something to that effect (don't qoute me, been a while). I couldn't surmise it meaning dome, buy there are passages where I could see how one could come away thinking that. I suppose, if it was true, it would be huge, because a stationary plane, with celestial bodies revolving around it, would imply that it was created by a Creator. I agree with that idea, there is absolutely a Source of divinity, that created all life. Id this was the case, the evil hand would absolutely want to hide His existence. A Creator means humans no longer need human overlords (we do not). On the subject of the NASHOLES, this agency was started after Operation Paperclip from N@z1 Scientist like Vonbrauhn and is absolutely a tax dollar black hole. We're better off assuming the opposite of what NASA says. There is a pervasive evil in this world and acknowledgement of this, points directly to their being a benevolent Creator. That's why "the biggest trick the enemy ever played, is that he doesn't exist." I'm not a 100% a Bible beleiver (Rome), but I know many of its tenants are true. I'm still searching into what I know as fact. I don't want to beleive, I don't want faith, I want to know. Good talkin, be well