Manor Lords Guide - Perfect City Shield Design Roads 

1920 food per year needed - we’re making over 2k 400 berries 400 meat 400 apples 400 veggies 400 eggs Note you will go over 500 on some foods with this build - it’s a tad overkill - so 400 berries is just enough

Actually 440 berries, I was mistaken earlier. (Apparently, it's actually +5 per bush per uptick, with 8 bushes on regular patches, and 8 berries capacity per bush, which has to be completely emptied before workers move on to the next bush, which can cause losses even if you never reach the shown total capacity...)

See all the corpse pits? That’s your future home hahahaha… No. Really.

Grandma, what big teeth you have...

I think geometric design (for effeciency and beauty) adapting with the land topography, and where the energy (wind, water, fire, etc) and mineral/food resources flow, based by defense pov and strategy, would be the best combination. So, I start to use Fengshui, even Bagua design look for one of my town in my Manor Lord plays 😂😂😂 I know it's supposed to be Medieval European, but I'm curious. Yeah, well, it's fun.

70% city builder players are chronic OCD. Efficiency is #1 priority.

What have the Romans ever done for us?

Unfortunately In games with numbers grids are always optimal no matter the intent - if the game mechanics favored organic builds then I wouldn’t have to do this lol

@@TacticatGaming Thanks for the guide man! I appreciate it. That field around the berries trick is super helpful.

Moving wild animals around not being realistic doesn't compute. What would prevent humans from moving the grazing grounds of wild animals by disturbing them? It happens in the real world all the time.

@@untitledpnk I think if we had a nice deer spot and built a corpse pit there, they would move somewhere else, this just is how ML does the mechanics of that 🙂👍

@@patrickkelly6691 Not sure why you're telling me that, but okay.

The deer spawns are abstractions, the rest of the woods aren't empty. I very much doubt it was intended for the player to move the spawn around like this (though I've been doing the same since my first game, admittedly). Otherwise, Greg could've just allowed the player to manually place the spawn instead of placing a million overlapping hunting grounds to get it to where you want it. I agree with OP, it's rather immersion breaking (and I should stop doing it).

Just don't do it if it bothers you. It's not a problem that needs fixing

I haven’t even touched the harder achievements yet lol

@@TacticatGaming You should do a video where you try to get “Challenge accepted”, “Mercenary Captain” , and “The Merchant” all in the same run. I’d bet you could do it without too much bother, with your level of knowledge. I’d imagine that would be a very popular video because most people haven’t got those 3 yet and so would be looking for tips and encouragement.

If you make the game around travel times mattering, straight lines are the simple solution 😉

@@Grimtorn1983 I mean the effectiveness not so important. The game itself is not so hard to run everything with maximum efficiency. But again it's just a joke) Averyone play as one likes most.

Next to storage

Honestly I don’t know. This is one I was drafting in my head. Sometimes a design will just come to me. But every time I make a new design I think I’m out of ideas lol

@@TacticatGaming well im going to try this one tonight

Neither should roads be free and instant. It's very early access. I get that the developer doesn't want a grid but there should be some kind of measurement system, at the moment it's corpse pits until something gets added.

That seems to be the consensus - another backdoor change. I tested it on the last beta patch but not this one

@@TacticatGaming I think at this points it makes the berry perk probably the weakest one in the game

Yeah I would anticipate it changing

Ox

Lol

One for ale and beer, the other for wine. As God intended.

equal

Industry area

@@TacticatGaming Oh, I had thought that maybe it would have been close to the "Hunters Camp" and the other near the "Foragers Hut". I will take your advice. 👍 Thanks

Weird I’ll look at it after work

I see the image fine you might need to try a different browser

@@TacticatGaming It works fine now! thanks

Depends on if you use ox ploughing - but roughly 1 per .75

It’s 80 on both types - you need the perk of it’s not rich unless they changed it recently

I should have read this before my post 😉 Will test this tonight on my new game on the latest patch. Didnt test it prior but the 40 rick was my observation aswell on a normal deposit

It's 400 (9x40+2x20) for normal nodes, 800 (9x80+2x40) for rich nodes on the current beta patch. The perk is irrelevant, because capacity only matters if you don't harvest fast enough.

@@Muenni So Trapping into Skinning instead??

Should be fine

And also what to do if the terrain is to steep? Shall I just re-roll?

They kinda just go where they need to and lay em all over

@@TacticatGaming hmm...but can one limit the work area for these?. So I was curious if I can set very small work areas very near the camp ( area in forest, not within the wild animal zone) and get the passive meat efficiently without hunters wasting time roaming all over

@@TacticatGaming am thinking this as I imagine the passive trapping perk seems very much like the apiary perk.

It’s a bit weird I’ve caught them gallivanting around prior patches - it’s a bit of a mystery but it provides something passive I think

To answer the question: As long as the deer limit is not reached, hunters will go trapping. Since the limit is irrelevant for deer respawn rate, set it as low as possible without risking extinction. Now you can build an infinite number of camps, set the working radius away from the deer and the limit low, and they will go trapping all year. This does however only net around 16.25 meat per year and family/camp (and probably half that in hides with the other perk), so those trapping is only attractive if you got looooads of surplus workers.

I’d have to retest it - but we should be good - last patch it was still 80

@@TacticatGaming according to my test today, berries grows 40 per tick with or without the perk so this makes the perk useless, unless you have a rich deposit then, it goes to 80 per tick.

Interesting. I’ll probably give it another go for testing once patch is official - but this is something I can look at in live stream - 400 a year is good enough for the build

@@TacticatGaming Twice a month from March to June 4x2x40= 320 berries a year

@@burcuo9690 You get 40 every 10 days, from the beginning of March (so 40 on the 10th) for 11 times. The 12th tick only removes the 'growing' label) at the end of June. It's 440 berries in total, 880 on a rich node, and yeah, the perk is pretty useless.

lol never mind. I see you explained it in the first minute and a half. 😂. Thanks dude!

Hahaha I had a big laugh. Thanks TactiCat

I had to pause it as I stopped working.

13 mins video. 6 hours consequences.

There will be future times

Job is temporary. Manor Lords is permanent.

Double burgages do not produce twice as many eggs or hides from extensions, but each family consumes one food per month, not matter how many families live on the same plot. For large veggie gardens a second family can be useful, but you could also simply make the veggie gardens half as large and use single houses. It's just sometimes tricky to get the larger plot shape you want without it turning into a double burgage automatically. TactiCat shows how those double plots get the most gardening area and least housing area, but otherwise densely placed single burgages seem to take less space, not more.

I’m sorry my video ruined your life

@@TacticatGaming It's OK, it was ruined years ago :D

What? It's the other way around! Food is consumed one per family. Maybe you're mistaking it with supply at the market? You may need to supply one unit of each food type per burgage at the market, but only one random unit of food per family per month is actually consumed. And AFAIK extensions like chicken coops produce one unit per burgage per month, regardless of how many families live there.

@@Muenni Everything I have read has said the opposite. Eggs are produced 1 per family. This is the first time I've seen someone say its once per burgage

@@Kurze0 TactiCat plays the 0.7.965 Beta patch which hasn't been released yet. That might be the reason for the difference, although based on my experience with ML I believe it has been always like TactiCat is saying. He likes to extensively test everything himself and confers with other players doing the same, such as StratGaming and MeowBeep. He was able to figure out things that others missed and therefore spread wrong information and he also was wrong with some of his conclusions but has always admitted and corrected it once it was pointed out and he re-tested it. He also listens to what other players point out during his live plays and does test it straight away if possible. I'm following his channel for almost two years now, mainly watching his Farthest Frontier gameplays and he's usually spot on. We should not forget that ML is a work in progress and there have been and will be backdoor patches making things work differently from one day to another during beta patch testing.

@@StefanInOz I also playt on the beta patch and I just tested it and indeed get 1 egg per family.

@@Kurze0 Are you sure you didn't make a mistake? It's 1 egg per coop every 30 days, so depending on when it was built, harvest times change. There's also no version since release where double plots produced double the amount of eggs, and no version where double plots didn't consume one food per family, not plot (though originally it wasn't random which food type was consumed).

A good sandbox games should allow what players do as they desire, not dictate them.