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A NEW FILM FROM NATE'S MISSION AND ENDING CLERGY ABUSE
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The Catholic Church has overseen the world's longest-lasting and most widespread campaign of institutional sexual abuse. Why is it that after sixteen centuries of documented evidence and decades of continuous international public exposure, new revelations of the scope and magnitude of the crisis continue to shock the public?
Manufacturing the Clerical Predator goes beyond the usual clichéd and tediously-repeated popular explanations offered for the abuse crisis by exploring the personal narrative and theoretical accounts of three Wisconsin former seminarians and priests detailing the transmission of the culture of clerical abuse across three generations. It supplies a fresh, unique, and urgently-needed approach to the question that has yet to be answered about sexual abuse and cover-up in the Church: Why?

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@Tomatohater64
@Tomatohater64 4 месяца назад
I was Catholic my entire life. In August of 2019, I made a conscious decision to leave the church because of all its monumental hypocrisy. I feel closer to Jesus now than I ever did as a "staunch Catholic." This program is magnificent because it speaks the truth. Nothing here is exaggerated or falsified. (When I was in a Trappist monastery in 2009, a Bavarian priest sexually harrassed me to no end. When I took this to the Abbott, who was very well educated, he told me that "maybe the priest is just stupid and didn't know what he was doing." As a fully heterosexual man, I laughed at the Abbott's idiocy and left the monastery forever the next day.)
@carolyncasey8960
@carolyncasey8960 Год назад
The “measures” taken by the church to deal with the abuse amount to putting lipstick on a pig. Still a pig.
@christopher4192
@christopher4192 Год назад
I was impressed by the contribution from the ex-seminarian (James Egan). Anyone who is interested can hear him again in episode 184 of 'The Angry Catholic', in which he talks about the work he does for survivors of clerical abuse in the Archangel Foundation.
@erikriza7165
@erikriza7165 Год назад
Christopher, I agree. He is erudite and speaks very well. And there is a quality in his voice which is very genuine.
@johnmcgrath6192
@johnmcgrath6192 6 месяцев назад
The church replaced moral reasoning and common decency with obedience. Blind obedience to its hierarchical delusion.
@HealthWyze
@HealthWyze 2 месяца назад
The Church of the Antichrist is against free will. It's another way to mock God.
@maxwelldownham235
@maxwelldownham235 Год назад
These three brave and intelligent men made me feel decidedly less ashamed to be a human being.
@nancypicchi9224
@nancypicchi9224 3 месяца назад
Yet, we never truly know how we hurt others because we’ve never done anything this bad.
@erikriza7165
@erikriza7165 Год назад
how long did it take for someone to admit that some of the predators were BISHOPS!!
@Waiting4Winds
@Waiting4Winds Год назад
Nate was my good friend. He wanted this to come out. He would be glad to know this is getting more exposure.. Enough is enough...
@Yobbie72
@Yobbie72 Год назад
who is Nate?
@michaelciccone2194
@michaelciccone2194 Год назад
Who is Nate? Good question!
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 Год назад
Did he commit suicide ver Sadly
@red---paulvanravenswaay2247
@red---paulvanravenswaay2247 10 месяцев назад
The whole organization is corrupt
@noraarico1313
@noraarico1313 4 месяца назад
@@Yobbie72 Nate Lindstrom (in memory of, in ending credits)
@philmcdonald6088
@philmcdonald6088 Год назад
rx: don't give the catholic church another penny ever. there are plenty of other worthy causes.
@sighborg_
@sighborg_ Год назад
Thanks for making this film. I just watched it twice.
@albertolucea-jt6dr
@albertolucea-jt6dr 3 месяца назад
I have been a devout Roman Catholic since 1961, but I renounced my Roman Catholic faith in 2022 for two chief reasons: one, the Roman Catholic faith is not aligned with the Bible; and two, I was spiritually liberated by the book I read entitled "Altar of Secrets: Sex, Politics, and Money in the Philippine Catholic Church" by Aries C. Rufo. I am now a born again Christian . . . much better!
@JanetHanning-f2f
@JanetHanning-f2f Год назад
I am a woman doctor who has cared for victims, families and even predators. The problem happens in Protestant churches and cults too. These speakers present very real insights and I thank them for it. The attack on the victim is not just physical, it is combined with ongoing psychological abuse of the victim and often their families too, and in this case of seminarians and priests, all of whom are recruited or cajoled into silencing the victim. This exercise of power is part of the excitement for the predator. Predators cooperate with others to find their victims, sometimes they get someone to act as procurer,lookout, and someone to lie and cover up for them. Churches and religious orders have international paedophile rings operating within them. None of this is being addressed.
@veronicaoliem3778
@veronicaoliem3778 Год назад
Whatever it is, my faith remains to God and my church
@koro287
@koro287 Год назад
U forgot Doctors,Judges,Lawyers etc. Academic's are not squeaky clean either.
@nguyenvu4582
@nguyenvu4582 Год назад
Ignore the blind faith people even though they have seen and known the truth... !!! Mamen... !!!
@sylviabriggs4087
@sylviabriggs4087 Год назад
@@veronicaoliem3778lol
@sylviabriggs4087
@sylviabriggs4087 Год назад
@@koro287I would say they are top of the list
@patrickobrien8060
@patrickobrien8060 11 месяцев назад
Tom Doyle is a magnificent man.
@jamesmaranki526
@jamesmaranki526 Год назад
I am a former Catholic Priest. I remember in my first assignment, I was on fire. The fact that many of the people were from Ascoli Piceno in the Marche region of Italy, fired me up even more. In the rectory, there lived a priest who just lived there. When I inquired about this I was told not to worry about it. I soon learned that this guy was stationed at a neighboring parish, at that parish apparently, he was moved quickly. Nothing was said regarding that sudden move, eventually I learned that the move was perpetuated because he sexually abused a boy. My pastor told me not to worry about this, but it affected me adversely where I couldn't even sit at the table and eat with him.
@clarkporter1340
@clarkporter1340 Год назад
R u still Christian?
@davidculp-mp5hi
@davidculp-mp5hi Год назад
Did you ever think to call the police? Catholics (and I am one) seem to have a problem with reporting abuse to the police when they have reasonable suspicions, There is no excuse for this neglect Claiming that you don't have proof is dishonest. It's not your job or place to gather proof. That is the function of the police and Child Protection workers and not the laity or the bishops or the pope. Many Catholics are guilty of this abuse because they did nothing about it when it was just that simple. The Catholic Church has no business investigating allegations or being the go between for parishioners and the police. The Church needs to butt out and only intervene when ordered to do so.
@HeedGodsWord
@HeedGodsWord 10 месяцев назад
I highly recommend a book "Near to God Far from Rome" by Richard Bennett. It's a testimony of 50 ex-Catholic priests. Namely, how they came to trusting the true gospel after the Lord got a hold of them through His word. These testimonies span a number of decades and it's so encouraging. I wept through many of the stories. I am an ex-Catholic who turned to New Age for 20 years. Then, after a friend put a King James Bible in front of me, I was immediately convicted (and angry!) After months of wrestling with God and the scriptures, I surrendered, repented, and believed on the gospel that saves (1 Cor 15:1-4.) God gave me a new heart instantly and I know that I will forever be His. This happened 9 years ago and I'm still wanting to share this with anyone who will listen. I pray you are seeking God in prayer, surrender, and by His word.
@davidculp-mp5hi
@davidculp-mp5hi 9 месяцев назад
Believe it or not, he was merely the symptom. The problem was bigger than him. The problem was and remains The Roman Catholic Church. It has not changed. It 'remains the same. The Church merely masks the symptom. It's not sorry for its sin. It's sorry it got caught and teaches its laity to deflect guilt and shame by pointing to other religions and institutions "Oh, they all do it" is their defense. Your revulsion at the dinner table was not caused by him as much as by the organization protecting him from his consequences and accountable for enabling his bad behavior. The Catholic Church may as well beatify him on his way to sainthood. They don't care. They see the Church as his victim and not the children he and they hurt.
@slow-mo_moonbuggy
@slow-mo_moonbuggy 8 месяцев назад
The Catholic Church is pretty creepy by promoting the Heliocentric model. Why would they promote something that tricks people into believing they are a speck of dust on a spinning water ball in the black void of outer space? It's a huge problem. They are promoting a false cosmology which leads to solipsistic behavior like we see in this video.
@paulyosef7550
@paulyosef7550 Год назад
Celibacy is a sacrifice made by a man or woman that is called to religious life, the person gives up the opportunity of having a family for God. A homosexual makes no such sacrifice. Perhaps it's a way for the Catholic family homosexual to save face and say he has a calling to the priesthood which is wrong. Now it is as if you must be a homosexual to become a priest.
@joeterp5615
@joeterp5615 Год назад
You have this right. These monsters were not “manufactured” in the Church, they were deviants before they entered the seminary and they never planned on living out a virtuous life of chastity. They didn’t enter seminary because they loved Christ and His Church above all and wanted to offer their lives in service to it. Far from it. I have been told this by priests who saw men in seminary who never should have been there. There is much blame that can be directed to how the church handled cases of abuse and failed to protect the innocent. Protecting the innocent from evil and bringing healing to the wounded is at the heart of the Church’s mission. To fail to identify the cancer within and to cut it out - is a colossal failure and human tragedy. My heart grieves for these innocent victims. But to fix issues, the issues have to be properly understood. And understanding who these monsters are is critical - so we can prevent more like them from ever entering seminaries in the first place. I believe the Church does better now at psychological screening, but like with any human institution, it will not always succeed. And where deviants are themselves in positions of power within the Church? - God help us. We need brave and holy Church leaders who demand we have a HOLY priesthood that is sworn to uphold and live out ALL the teachings of the Catholic Church. And when abuse is discovered, there needs to be justice… so healing can begin.
@vascoa
@vascoa Год назад
Celibacy wasn't a requirement in the first centuries of the church, what it was closer to the time o jesus.. so tell me again why is it so amazing? And isn't a requirement in some christian denominations. The real reason it became policy was to protect the church property. Since the local clerics would receive and manage materials and lands of the church which could them be inherited or give to their sons, thus dilapidating the church. It's all about money.
@blackwood3243
@blackwood3243 Год назад
​​@@vascoa It still isn't required in the Eastern Rite of the Catholic Church. The burden of proof is on you to prove your claims. The Catholic Church has already given it's reasons for celibacy, Just do a simple Google search on why Priest are Celibate and many good reasons are given for why. Sexual abuse is a disgusting filth that should be met with the harshest of punishments wherever it's found.
@kimfab1973
@kimfab1973 5 месяцев назад
I know many priests from my boyhood and none of them were predators. It has to be said too.
@anacristinasimoesvilar6588
@anacristinasimoesvilar6588 4 месяца назад
I am Catholic, and I know a lot of excelent and kind priests!! They help me a lot in several painful moments, with kindness and respect. I owe them a lot, and I am grateful!😃
@seamusobrien2675
@seamusobrien2675 4 месяца назад
And how many of them turned their faces away and ignored the problem? I know the answer from the inside, most priests and religious and nearly every Bishop upwards.
@HealthWyze
@HealthWyze 2 месяца назад
Maybe you didn't look hot enough.
@astrinymris9953
@astrinymris9953 11 месяцев назад
This is a very powerful and beautiful documentary, though it's very hard to listen to sometimes. And I think it's 100% correct in its analysis: Nothing is going to change as long as the church is an autocracy controlled by male bachelors. And since I don't think the Magisterium is ever going to give up even an iota of their current power and privilege, I think the institutional church is going to die. If Catholicism survives, it's going to survive as independent laity-controlled congregations in which women share power equally with men and any instances of sexual abuse are immediately reported to the police.
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc 11 месяцев назад
RCC made Celibacy a Law for Clerics in 1123 AD. I’m assuming such applied to Nuns too. I agree that the chance of giving up magisterium power is slim. The Great Falling Away is on display.
@thomasvanantwerp728
@thomasvanantwerp728 Год назад
What sane, caring parent would send off their young children with a lone priest for a week in the country? Or any lone adult, for that matter. This is inconceivable to me.
@LmrWI
@LmrWI Год назад
Maybe but many single aunts and uncles do this. If the priest is a very close family friend, they wouldn’t have thought about it. It was very different years ago. You can’t look at at it, the way we do now.
@fritula6200
@fritula6200 Год назад
​@@LmrWI .... you are correct. Just How many people didn't know what a same sex attraction person was...l was one of them! People, families never ever spoke of such matters: why would they.
@kevinmorgan8534
@kevinmorgan8534 Год назад
@@fritula6200 It should be noted that Tom Doyle pointed out that most predators are married men. And it's Gay, not "same sex attracted."
@red---paulvanravenswaay2247
@red---paulvanravenswaay2247 10 месяцев назад
Remember, they have the "air" of respect. DOGS!!
@NoShelfControl
@NoShelfControl 7 месяцев назад
People lived in fear and reverence of the church back then. It was terrible.
@mariadromero313
@mariadromero313 4 месяца назад
Those vultures of the Vatican are worse than evil
@penelopemiddelboe1163
@penelopemiddelboe1163 Год назад
Just seen that Nate took his life. So awful. This is such an important film.
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 Год назад
No he did not comit suicide.
@laurencechetcuti3284
@laurencechetcuti3284 Год назад
Nate did indeed take His life after the Norbertine monsters cut off the hush money they were paying Him that He was using for therapy that kept Him going.
@Yobbie72
@Yobbie72 Год назад
who is Nate?
@susannehermeling9207
@susannehermeling9207 Год назад
@@trafficjon400 yes he did
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 Год назад
@@susannehermeling9207 Yes he did gives no explaination if he did or not. Yet you can see in his expressions are not good.
@stevecleaver6009
@stevecleaver6009 Год назад
This is a really helpful and powerful documentary. Sad and tragic stories of the abuse of power-and yet, thankfully, these men also offer hope of a better way.
@carolyncasey8960
@carolyncasey8960 Год назад
Vote with your $$$
@lyntaylor4148
@lyntaylor4148 Год назад
Thank you Tom Doyle. Again. Lyn Hayward Taylor SNAP Louisiana
@carmellewis2466
@carmellewis2466 Год назад
Very powerful and poignant.
@janrozek6978
@janrozek6978 Год назад
thank you so much from Czech Republic!
@allenmacneel1572
@allenmacneel1572 6 месяцев назад
And Jesus wept
@kathrynwalczyk1349
@kathrynwalczyk1349 Год назад
Oh my heart breaks. As a survivor myself. I thank you for you bravery. What the concept of a priest being ontologically changed in Christ does to many of us who were victims is horrific!
@kurtandrews5844
@kurtandrews5844 Год назад
The whole ontological change concept is all about control and grooming
@teriellis9487
@teriellis9487 Год назад
This is what's difficult & complicated about the catholic church, it's either the sexual scandal, corruption or the bullying, & this happens not just among Priests, Religious & seminarians but it also happens among the laity who serves within the church.
@Mary-kp9ie
@Mary-kp9ie Год назад
The abused are like Jesus who are left behind with thorns in their heads. I send my love and blessings to all who stand up and work towards a better spirit for us all. Because I am furious.
@fritula6200
@fritula6200 11 месяцев назад
Paedophilia is the largest problem witthin families in the world:
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc 11 месяцев назад
Child Sex Slavery. Child Pornography. It would be a different world IF the current Synod was focused on WAYS to Protect Children Prevent Sex Sins
@penelopemiddelboe1163
@penelopemiddelboe1163 Год назад
At my brother's public school the comment was Father has a thing for boys' bottoms - it was an attempt to minimise
@erikriza7165
@erikriza7165 Год назад
smoke a cigarette before you meet McCarrick!! Tragic but hilarious.
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc 11 месяцев назад
What a eye opening Report about McCarrick’s aversion to scent of cigarettes. It is TRAGIC that he victimized seminary students + that so many others knew about ongoing sexual abuse + Archbishop Vigano reported to 2 Popes (Benedict & Francis) about McCarrick + he wasn’t “defrocked” for YEARS. I understand that McCarrick was once an excellent moneymaker. He was (recently) declared incompetent to stand trial.
@ricdavid7476
@ricdavid7476 Год назад
Amazing vid thanks. All my family my in laws my wife were influenced greatly by the Roman church. I thankfully went a different route. I lived In London next to the most important abbey in London Ealing abbey. The past Abbott has recently been sent to prison for 17 years he jumped bail and was on the run for years he was helped on the run by Rome and was tracked down to Albania and had to be extradited back to the UK. A whole succession of priests from the abbey have been sent to prison. This stuff is still going on. I was raped by a teacher repeatedly as a boy . My life fell apart . I had him arrested 40 years later he had just retired as the headmaster of a Roman Catholic primary school and was just about to become a deacon of his local church. The police did not prosecute him
@BUSINESSCHICMAMA
@BUSINESSCHICMAMA Год назад
This is so devastating. I am so sorry that you had to go through this. I was brought up in the Roman Catholic Church and thank God the Holy Spirit led me out of the Roman Catholic system, and I became a born-again Christian. I started reading the Bible and I now realize that this is the harlot which is described in revelation 13. It’s so very sad. they have led countless souls to very dark places… May God be with you and your family
@ricdavid7476
@ricdavid7476 Год назад
@@BUSINESSCHICMAMA hello thanks for your good wishes . I too was a born again Christian for about 20 years I am not a Christian now . The harlot of revelation was obviously non believing Jerusalem . Please see my other comment below
@BUSINESSCHICMAMA
@BUSINESSCHICMAMA Год назад
@@ricdavid7476 hey there, Ric… so I just want to know this very amazing thing. If you truly as you say, were a Christian born again, the Father will never let you out of his hands. You can choose to turn away, reject and leave, but the father will never leave you, nor forsake you. Because this is a work of God that sustains us-not of ourselves. So now, just like the prodigal son you may be far away from him but he has never left you. This is so mind blowing. I thought about That this morning as I was waking up. The prodigal son. He loves his children that much. It’s amazing how the Bible always shows us that it’s always about him being faithful when we’re not faithful. So yes, you may have left Christianity, but if you are born again of the spirit, He will never leave you. You are now a son and an heir no matter what you do in this lifetime. Truly, showing that God, when we make a confession about who he is, we are sealed with the holy spirit of promise until the day of redemption. Again, mind blowing. No other religion in the world will ever bring man to this knowledge because this is not the knowledge of man, but of God. I share this because I truly feel a supernatural peace, even when The world around us is falling apart. This is how I know the one true God, because of the peace that I feel that surpasses my own human understanding. I want everybody to understand this truth, and understand they can have the same because or that I am faithful, but because he is faithful. God Bless!
@ricdavid7476
@ricdavid7476 Год назад
@@BUSINESSCHICMAMA hey man thanks for your comment I know you mean well. What you said is really the fatal flaw in your theology . I have no doubt I was sincere when I confessed with my mouth jesus and believed in my heart that God has raised him from the dead. However in your theology I can now murder and rape at will confident that I will go to heaven. You really need to look at my comment I made down below . It is the truth and the truth will set you free
@pooh44100
@pooh44100 Год назад
@@ricdavid7476You weren't born again ,Christian in name only
@claudiosalib774
@claudiosalib774 11 месяцев назад
James Egan's photo at the beginning of his interview resembles the late Jeffrey Dahmer. I also noticed that Thomas Doyle has somewhat of an uncanny resemblance to the late overnight radio talkshow host Art Bell. ☝️🙄
@paulyosef7550
@paulyosef7550 Год назад
I thank God for Church Militant TV.
@evelinewa5763
@evelinewa5763 Год назад
James I'm proud of your truth
@michaelciccone2194
@michaelciccone2194 Год назад
Who is this "boss" that this former Dominican priest talking about?
@hhunstad2011
@hhunstad2011 Год назад
Thank you for your courage
@AnnFox-mx3hk
@AnnFox-mx3hk Год назад
This was very well done. It was clear, thoughtful and honest. The condemnation was placed exactly where it needs to be - on the heads of those that perpetrated these crimes and those that protect them. I am a practicing Catholic who loves Christ and His Church, but I do not want to turn a blind eye to evil within our own institution because of the fear of how this may be perceived. Thank you for the kind and respectful way you presented this very difficult material. And thank you to the brave men that came forward to share their story. I do not want to cede our beautiful church to these criminals but also know that the church is set up to heal poor sinners such as these. They just shouldn’t be running it!
@patrickmelling8404
@patrickmelling8404 Год назад
Same behaviour is still evident with priests being bullied and cancelled for being good priests who uphold tradition.
@shannonluck5066
@shannonluck5066 Год назад
What a ridiculous concept... Allow priests to marry... All men want sex... Better to marry, St. Paul said. Maybe it's more about the Church attracting narcissists and psychopaths... Good people do good things! As the historical churches of all faiths have always done... Hospitals, Social Services... 🤗 Kindness, Love 💕 etc. etc...
@edwardlopeziii4380
@edwardlopeziii4380 Год назад
There is no way you can truly believe in God and do these things. Especially calling yourself a man of God. It seems to be getting darker . May God bless us all.
@erikriza7165
@erikriza7165 Год назад
Edward Lots of people these days who call themselves Catholic, are not really Catholic at all. They lack Catholic Faith and Piety. They think they can commit sins, even sins which are civil crimes, with impunity. Their mind and conscience, and their life, is compartmentalized.
@vascoa
@vascoa Год назад
Yes of course... as long as they repent they should have entry into heaven... doesn't matter if they are pedos or mass murderers. That's the morality of Christianity.
@fritula6200
@fritula6200 Год назад
This was happening in all religions, not just in Roman Catholic Church AND in all institutions .
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc 11 месяцев назад
God is not going to bless all. It’s not compartmentalization, it’s a seared conscience aka a reprobate mind. With Repentance (Godly sorrow, not worldly regret) GOD may forgive sins. Sexual Sins are be committed elsewhere and not only by RC clerics, but no other institution claims to be holding back hell.
@stevensonrf
@stevensonrf 9 месяцев назад
Celibacy and chastity are not the problem. Homosexuality is.
@tonyfurtado5595
@tonyfurtado5595 4 месяца назад
How is homosexuality the problem?
@stevensonrf
@stevensonrf 4 месяца назад
@@tonyfurtado5595 it’s a problem because it’s perversion.
@Arthur_McGowan
@Arthur_McGowan Год назад
Bergoglio is the worst cover-up artist of them all.
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc 11 месяцев назад
Read the oath that Jesuits take. Read the history of the Jesuits.
@w.urlitzer1869
@w.urlitzer1869 3 месяца назад
All that for something imaginary called god.
@cassandraevans368
@cassandraevans368 8 месяцев назад
Still a facade: "...powerful people were allowed to continue to engage in predatory behavior even on an really exceptional scale..." (31:36)
@edmundcoyle364
@edmundcoyle364 Год назад
"...a way for offender priests to have vulnerable seminarians open up about their sexuality and it gets them to talk about about their sexual preferences and......" on it goes. So he then tells us how these offender priests, a great way for them to 'scope out territory...' and they know this person (seminarian) is struggling, they might be conflicted about homosexuality and so on. If you're the offender priest you now know you can 'target' them, they're vulnerable, open to exploitation. They've opened up; you know their secret.
@davidculp-mp5hi
@davidculp-mp5hi 9 месяцев назад
It's a part of grooming their intended victims.
@monus782
@monus782 Год назад
20:04 I used to be one of those devout Catholics until a few years ago and although I knew of the abuses I rationalized or downplayed them away during those years as I really believed the apologetics on this one, I was raised by parents who also really liked JPII growing up but I became a Traditionalist type of Catholic during high school and college (as the Latin Mass seemed to be making a come back in many dioceses until the pope put a stop to it nearly two years ago) and my fellow Trad friends usually either blamed Vatican II itself or the chaos that came after it for the abuses when they weren't blaming the LGBT+ community instead (mainly the gay priests) so I guess that's the way I dealt with the situation until the very last day I called myself a Catholic. Because of that the crisis pretty much played no role in my deconversion and it's been several years now since I left the but now I'm starting to see I may have been lied to in more ways than I thought and for a good chunk of my life I thought God wanted me to be a priest (and I idealized the priesthood as a result), however I never made it to seminary and I'm grateful for that. Still trying to recover from the +10 years of repression and guilt I got as a hormonal teenager through Purity Culture/Theology of the Body type of theology I got but I was told the moment I looked at a woman a certain way and gave in to "impure thoughts" that would be a mortal sin and would go to hell unless I went to confessional (and confess I did very often, like every two weeks at one point), now I see why so many have left over the scandal and it's mostly because of the hypocrisy and the audacity of these priests and bishops to dictate what our sex lives should be like while all of this was going on. Yet another reason why at this point I want nothing to do with the institution I used to be so loyal to and made the center of my life for too long, I'm not exactly optimistic that true reform will come anytime soon and this will keep happening.
@flabby2142
@flabby2142 Год назад
Submit to the Roman Catholic Church
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc 11 месяцев назад
The HYPOCRISY of Religious Leaders IS exactly what Savior Jesus Exposed and Warned us about.
@davidculp-mp5hi
@davidculp-mp5hi 9 месяцев назад
You may want to consider that it was through the help of Vatican II, this internal problem was dragged into the light. The misguided orthodoxy plaguing the Catholic Church prior to Vatican II was a contributing factor in blinding Catholics and non-Catholics to this unfortunate reality. Back in those days, people tended to deify clergy and other clerics in the Church. In a sense, they could do no wrong. The Church's demonizing of human sexuality added fuel to the fire. These excessive practices may have served as shields and food attracting power hungry and control seeking people. In a sense, Vatican II forced the Catholic Church out of its closet and thereby exposing its ugly "secrets" for all to see. When a dysfunctional body is exposed for its corruption, the view is not pretty. That, I believe is where the Church now stands. People, especially some Catholics, view that exposure as "attacking the faith" . So they fight back by blaming the pope, attacking Church reform, and rejecting more meaningful liturgy as causing the Church harm. Consequently, they see the solutions as turning the clock back to the days of Latin Masses, ovelrritualization and supernatural beliefs such as apparations of the saints, the Shroud of Turin, and the blood of Christ flowing from a communion wafer. Some see all of this as a sign of hopelessness for theChurch, but it may be an indicator of the need for continued reform and not regression. Don't jump off the ship just yet.
@matrixabandonedanddissolve9172
@matrixabandonedanddissolve9172 9 месяцев назад
I also was a Catholic and left the church. It would seem that the only cure for this child rapist problem among the priest is to completely shut down the church so these predators would no longer have easy access to the children. And the only way this organization of crime will be shut down is if every Catholic walks away and stops supporting it on every level. What is the right thing to do? Support a criminal entity or protect the children? It's obvious that the Vatican will never serve any kind of justice and will continue to promote child rapists by continuing to hide them and/or move them from place to place. Their deceptive protocol plan has been reveal even within their own records which have been subpoenaed for court. The Catholic Church has too much power around the globe thanks to their Jesuits who invade countries through government. The Catholic Church is nothing short of organized crime on many levels. It's too bad that most Catholics cannot bring themselves to read and research the true history of the church. The Catholic Church is nothing more than Lucifer's church.
@edmundcoyle364
@edmundcoyle364 Год назад
At 33 minutes, I dont 'get' this. Suddenly we've ex-offender priests talking to seminarians. All because of the Polish pope's emphasis on celibacy and a state of being chaste...... this leads to... read on.....
@helenweatherby1694
@helenweatherby1694 10 месяцев назад
Utter madness.
@erikriza7165
@erikriza7165 Год назад
cupich is mean-spirited
@richardbudinich2662
@richardbudinich2662 Год назад
All of it is 1000% correct
@davidw2350
@davidw2350 4 месяца назад
This was an excellent video. As a former cleric This video has helped me understand many of the things that I have not understood since I left the ministry. Thank you for your good work.
@rebeccab.463
@rebeccab.463 4 месяца назад
This is one of the best documentaries, if not the best, on the sickness of the Catholic Church..Bravo!
@judithpratt
@judithpratt Год назад
Why didn't God protect the children? Why didn't God stop these predators? Any ideas?
@penelopecarterdougherty8575
I was not sexually abused. I was a Catholic orphan STOLEN from my mother by John Cardinal O'Connor who was paid by my father and then she was put through "electro shock treatments, three times, for the sole purpose of surrender". God does not 'let this happen'. People have free will. My life was a living HELL. However, I had a deep and very mystical relationship with St. Elizabeth Ann Seton and there were excellent priests, bishops and nuns who did help ME get through and endure the suffering AND support and guide me in fighting the demons in the Church. And, at the end of the day, IF you are Catholic .... you know there's a heaven and a hell.
@vascoa
@vascoa Год назад
Idiots will say freewill... freewill from the abuser obviously.. Which means they are of the position that god is unwilling to stop the abuser making him an evil god, or probably unable to which makes it not much of a god. Basically an non intervening god isn't much of a god at all. 😑 If they were good christians they could offer themselves as sacrificial lambs to the abusers in the hope of saving unwilling victims.. Or simply demand of the church they stop the abusers, instead of ignoring or defending the organization.
@fritula6200
@fritula6200 Год назад
​@@penelopecarterdougherty8575 brilliant...
@lcunningham1776
@lcunningham1776 Год назад
Yes, Jesus said it would be better a man have a millstone tied around his neck and cast into the sea, than cause one of these little ones to fall. The Lake of Fire...
@helenweatherby1694
@helenweatherby1694 10 месяцев назад
Yep. ‘He’ is a figment of gullible people’s imagination.
@berniecor
@berniecor Год назад
Hope for more brave, humble and truthful documentary like this. That shows that even priests need regeneration by the Holy Spirit. And turn into a real ontological change through faith in Christ alone. Religious discipline is not enough Philippians 2:13 for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure. May everyone in RC turn to Jesus Christ for 2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. I look at these verses as it is. I may seem superstitious on this but I believe on God who creates something out of nothing with God all things are possible. Amen
@barbarabraun114
@barbarabraun114 4 месяца назад
There is NO excuse for the cover-up and continued contagion in the Church. BUT, I am not Catholic because of the “Instituted”. I am Catholic because that is the church that Jesus instituted. The INSTITUTION MUST be dismantled. Jesus has been patient….
@annettearundel2491
@annettearundel2491 3 месяца назад
Pope Francis said, “Clericalism is when the priests and other clergy in the church start to think they are more important and powerful than everyone else. Displeased, he said it was like a disease, like a leprosy that is really hurting the church. He told church leaders, especially those working in the Vatican to get rid of the bad habits and temptations like feeling indispensable, wanting to be rich, living a double life, and even forgetting about God.” The pyramid of hierarchical authority, and the ordination of gay men is but the mighty beast of power that has taken over in the church that Jesus Christ established. God will cleanse His temple as He did when He went up to Jerusalem and told them to stop abusing and misusing ”My Father’s house.” There are so many non free thinking clericalised lay people in the catholic church now, that it has become harder to demand changes to bring back e.g. the altar rails that were ripped out of our churches removing this reverence and more efficient way of receiving God on our tongues, and to put Christ back where He belongs in our churches so that we may once again have access to visit Him in unlocked churches. God protect us and Your church...
@kempedkemp
@kempedkemp Год назад
Thank you for your excellent exposé.
@JMJ10781
@JMJ10781 Год назад
Smoke of S…… is in the church. Praying for the victims. Have mercy on us dear Lord.🙏🏻🕊️✝️
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 Год назад
Praying for 2000 years dishonest passive ignorance and the ANTI CHRIST.
@rebeccadubois8270
@rebeccadubois8270 Год назад
S?
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc 11 месяцев назад
Smoke of Satan
@seamusobrien2675
@seamusobrien2675 4 месяца назад
A very thoughtful response, really we are all without words about the betrayal of the completely misrepresented little Jewish bloke from Palestine.
@erikriza7165
@erikriza7165 Год назад
weakland was one of the problems. plus, he destroyed a beautiful Cathedral
@candicemarie6963
@candicemarie6963 Год назад
It was just a building! Instead think of the HUNDREDS of deaf and mute, read that again, deaf and mute children were raped, sodomized and tortured at the special boarding school. Years later when as adults they sought justice, this skank along with skank Dolan screwed these people their rightful settlement! The RCC clergy are mostly misfits who are drunk on power. I left the the Church and never looked back. The RCC does not have the cornerstone of Jesus. Ontological change, transubstantiation, celibacy, chastity is a bunch of man made bull!
@BuffaloCrusader2920
@BuffaloCrusader2920 Год назад
Unfortunately, it is not their MOST obscene secret....
@vascoa
@vascoa Год назад
is there more? would you like to share with the rest of the class?
@red---paulvanravenswaay2247
@red---paulvanravenswaay2247 10 месяцев назад
@@vascoa jesuits
@vascoa
@vascoa 10 месяцев назад
@@red---paulvanravenswaay2247 Hello Paul .. What's the deal with Jesuits?.. I honestly don't know
@sugarsauce2435
@sugarsauce2435 4 месяца назад
I hope you all know that you are bringing healing to many just by speaking on this. Does anyone have recommendations for victim outreach? I need spiritual healing and guidance that I can trust. I'm so ready to serve God, I'm so ready to heal and move on. I want my light back, I can't keep living like this. I can't keep living in fear. People really need to understand that there never was an actual separation between church and state. All intertwined. I wish that governmental agencies would get the same amount of scrutiny the Catholic church gets. It is NOT just the Catholic church, it is in EVERY sect of religion. I dont hate the church, I WANT to serve God. I love Jesus. I need my light back but I've been fucked with my entire life and I'm scared to trust anyone. I'm actually convinced that I've been cursed since literal birth. My mother told me she was told to never return to the Catholic church because she was 16 and unwed and pregnant. I'm convinced we were put on some sort of list.... I know it sounds crazy, it FEELS crazy! I just dont see how this many bad things can happen to one person. It literally feels like there is this push to get me to k*ll myself. 😢 I've even had people with credentials tell me that im NOT crazy that what I'm saying actually does happen and it really isn't that far fetched. I try to find peace in that. God is the only reason I'm alive, I truly believe that! I should be dead, several times over. I have a life story, most probably wouldn't believe. 😢 God has to be THE only explanation of me being alive.
@miguelpalma8389
@miguelpalma8389 29 дней назад
So sad, and painful to watch these fellow catholics suffer so much at the hand of priests.
@stevensonrf
@stevensonrf 9 месяцев назад
The problem is the lavender mafia in the church and in the seminaries.
@pietjansevanrensburg5230
@pietjansevanrensburg5230 Год назад
Creating a religious system within which clergy aren't allowed to marry, creates an unnatural environment. The "sacred feminine" /holy grail of manhood regards orgasm as the ultimate physical experience. That constitutes "god" for many through the ages. If you find yourself in a religious system in which you gain knowledge of deity, it remains soul-dimension-bound. Until you meet the Creator of the universe in person, you just remain religious- gaining knowledge, emotional experiences- in your own unique manner as a person:that constitutes your soul. Only the bride of Christ has a spirit dimension which has truly come alive. Only they can hear God's voice and see Him manifest to them in many ways. That is the ultimate human "experience". Knowledge of the bible, doing good deeds an trying to be a good person doesn't make you part of the bride. Untill then, you'll be mislead by the religious spirit-which is a demonic entity.
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc 11 месяцев назад
The Devil & Demons have their best successes INSIDE the Religious Arena. Successful DECEPTION is Why people continue to remain loyal to RCC Clerics + RCC Dogma. Savior JESUS Warned About The Deceiver & human deceivers- False Prophets Selfish Shepherds
@elizabethlacky6068
@elizabethlacky6068 9 месяцев назад
The reason why they went to the church is because they could get away with the rape of minors. You have it backward ..
@randyblythe1547
@randyblythe1547 2 месяца назад
Power corrupts everyone, including saints.
@petermacander5039
@petermacander5039 Год назад
Where John Paul II differed was that the ontological change he experienced in his own pious life, was one he specifically sought in his sufferings and priesthood. The wild, Hugh Hefnerian-inspired "liberated" untamed sexual perversity in American and Western societies was something John Paul II, coming from Poland, never imagined. Pre-WW II Polish society was a different world from 1960s-2000 America.
@RPlavo
@RPlavo Год назад
The perversity was rampant before the sixties
@lcunningham1776
@lcunningham1776 Год назад
The counsel of Balaam is in the Torah and mentioned in the Apocalypse of Jesus Christ. He tried to curse Israel coming out of Egypt, but blessed them 7 times. Told the king who hired him, If you want to curse them, send your women in among them, and get them to eat meat sacrificed to idols. Get them to sin. They will bring the curse upon themselves. Porn and immorality have always been a problem. Ever heard of the Comstock Act? Anthony Comstock must have read the Bible.
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc 11 месяцев назад
BLAME untamed sexual perversity in America & Western societies ? EXCUSE one of your highest ranking Cleric for the sexual perversity INSIDE of the RCC. Pfft. How Convenient.
@MUSIC-MARY
@MUSIC-MARY 5 месяцев назад
You protestants are perfect? PROVE IT!!!
@fayadkhairallah2760
@fayadkhairallah2760 Год назад
Who didn't vilify Kinsey for decades? Decades later Who vilified Kinsey? 😮
@erikriza7165
@erikriza7165 Год назад
i like James Egan. Dont know him, but it would be nice if i did. But when he says "the Church", it is not "the Church" it is some people "IN" the Church, including clergy and some Bishops. I had a Bishop who was an alcoholic, a pathological liar, and a sexual predator. I did not lose my Faith because of him. The Church is the Body of Christ, which is not defined by its tumors, warts, and pimples. If a bishop wants to be a hemmoroid on the anus of the Body of Christ, let him have at it. Who cares. Let him not be remembered.
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc 11 месяцев назад
When Seminary students know + When 2 Popes are informed then one can say “The Church” knew McCarrick was guilty.
@sugarsauce2435
@sugarsauce2435 4 месяца назад
You guys have me in tears. Thank you so much. For men to speak out on all of this... I just thank you. God is working. ❤
@cclearlyexodus
@cclearlyexodus 10 месяцев назад
Not surprising to hear of the “wicked to the core” status of the RCC. As the Lord Jesus had said when he walked this earth “you (referring to the hypocritical religious power at the time) travel over land and sea to make a single convert, and when you do, you make him twice a son of hell as you are.” The good news, however, is that victims can find true deliverance and healing through faith and repentance. Come to me, you who are heavy laden, take my yoke on you and learn from me. For my yoke is easy and my burden, light-the words of our ONE and ONLY mediator-Jesus the Christ.
@4698mags
@4698mags 11 месяцев назад
I wish we knew how to check if a catholic priest is a predator that was sent overseas to escape justice, one from Nigeria
@thesisterhoodhub
@thesisterhoodhub 8 месяцев назад
there’s an international support group called SNAP: Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, they keep records
@clarkporter1340
@clarkporter1340 Год назад
It's just funny dat Christians r here trying 2 act like ds is a form of new scandal rocking d Catholic Church wen ds has been its history. I'm glad we r in a time now wen such tins r exposed intelligently without any harm coming 2 d victims anymore
@Reader760
@Reader760 4 месяца назад
As a clergy person, I appreciate the insightful and realistic perspectives of the insiders interviewed for this excellent documentary.
@minorityvoice9253
@minorityvoice9253 Год назад
These stories make me so indignant...I will never leave Christ or His Church but these men are of the Devil and should burn. Bishops arent strong enough to defend the faith what makes us think they will defend children. If you compromise the faith youll compromise anything, even sexual abuse.
@Jean-rg4sp
@Jean-rg4sp 4 месяца назад
Yes, it's a monarchy.
@edmundcoyle364
@edmundcoyle364 Год назад
This is all rather bizarre. Would a diocese allow a predator in to talk to and instruct seminarians? So where does this occur? Surely seminarians are not that naive that they'd suddenly talk to someone ("I'm an ex-offender") and reveal all to them? Do they? If they confessed to them, isnt the Seal being broken?
@michaelciccone2194
@michaelciccone2194 Год назад
Sad with all this confusion in the RCC?
@edmundcoyle364
@edmundcoyle364 Год назад
Not from the point of view from how much they brought it all upon themselves. Many would say. Often it was the 'good ones', the ordinary footsoldiers who never did anything, I'd feel sad for them. It was known manys the bishop offered little to no support. Maybe those bishops thought it would all simply 'go away'.
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc 11 месяцев назад
Enforced Celibacy + Seal of Confession = Catch 22 🙉 Hear no evil 🙈 See no evil 🙊 Speak no evil
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc
@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc 11 месяцев назад
Life Long CELIBACY is not natural. It is not GOD’s design, plan or commandment. RCC made Celibacy their LAW. SEE the Consequences of changing instead of obeying GOD ?
@ceh5526
@ceh5526 Год назад
Me thinkest the lady doth protest too much
@frederiquecouture3924
@frederiquecouture3924 5 месяцев назад
The Evil on Easter Sunday 2024? I have nothing to confess. Were I to confess to the nearest Priest? I would have to address Him, as Satan. Fact.
@maristella287
@maristella287 4 месяца назад
Yesterday the pope was accused on Twitter by Vigano that he "used to operate like McCarrick" used to with seminarians. This is supposed to have been told to Vigano by a former seminarian about what pope francis was like when the seminarian was a novice. No other details were mentioned. It sounds like it would have had to have been at a Jesuit Seminary. I'm just guessing.
@fayadkhairallah2760
@fayadkhairallah2760 Год назад
1870 the year the church was closed the rest is outrage 😮
@koro287
@koro287 Год назад
Saint pius X He was the last of the GOOD ones.
@kimsteinke713
@kimsteinke713 4 месяца назад
A legislated mafiosa
@beataens1
@beataens1 3 месяца назад
Ecclesiasrical Freemasonry, Heretical Darkness.
@beataens1
@beataens1 3 месяца назад
Msg 2 b delted.
@stevensonrf
@stevensonrf 9 месяцев назад
If you want justice, blame the individual. If you want money, sue the institution. But if you want real healing, then ask for Divine Mercy.
@CRIM479
@CRIM479 5 месяцев назад
I am still amazed at how naive people are. No one has cornered the market on temptation and Evil. Any group, especially a corporate one, will leverage its power to protect itself, manufacturing an ideology to support its ideas and actions. Call it social pathology or original sin. Perhaps if we were willing to recognize this reality, we could waylay some of the damage. Wouldn't that be better than living within an orbit of opposition, in constant rotation around people from whom we have pledged to escape?
@mz.riecce2095
@mz.riecce2095 4 месяца назад
They abused me too
@ianmarcRoxU
@ianmarcRoxU 6 месяцев назад
27:14, This, to my mind, is the most damning part of this whole sordid scandal: obfuscate, conceal, whitewash the abuse crisis, the legacy of JPII.
@TheSuzberry
@TheSuzberry 5 месяцев назад
This is a horrific story. Partly because it affected so many children and destroy so many lives and partly because it’s an international story not just Boston or the US but everywhere the Roman Catholic Church exists.
@jacknicholasny
@jacknicholasny 5 месяцев назад
JohnPaul II is being misrepresented concerning his teaching on sexuality and clerical celibacy. Nowhere does he suggest that clerical celibacy leads to a higher form of sexual satisfaction. Chastity is a sublimation of sexuality for a greater good and it is required of everyone not just priests. It is the only healthy and normal use of human sexuality diametrically opposed to selfish use of our sexuality. Married couples understand this too because chastity is also part of married life where sex is sublimated for raising a family. Chastity is the only form of sexuality that is worthy of human dignity. Any other use of sexuality leads to abuse and degradation of human beings including rape and abortions.
@locoHAWAIIANkane
@locoHAWAIIANkane 5 месяцев назад
Sick sick sick sick sick!! And then they wonder why people are walking away and no longer believe in Christ.
@tjdomerny4847
@tjdomerny4847 5 месяцев назад
This is good as far as it goes. What is missing is what my experience has informed me as the fundamental problem: the refusal to accept the truth about homosexuality which corrupts the seminary formation process. That process is thoroughly dysfunctional. It is deformation by defamation.
@maureenrebello7529
@maureenrebello7529 Год назад
Sad we have to pray to God to give these men of God to persevere in holiness and not power
@vascoa
@vascoa Год назад
The thing is... you don't.. it's all a show with empty hands.
@KristinaUSA-x5n
@KristinaUSA-x5n Год назад
Karban Malta Leaks redacted Knights of Malta Czechoslovakian or Polish or Arabic for burnt sacrificial offering or gambler or chance or overseer.
@Joseph-es6mu
@Joseph-es6mu 7 месяцев назад
Lotd, forgive those hypocrites of hatred Jesus demanded we love each other. Hatred of others is directly from the evil one. Pray for the unity of Christendom.
@jemanzo324
@jemanzo324 5 месяцев назад
I was a NJ seminarian who met McCarrick in 1978 when he was an Auxiliary Bishop in NY. I was with a friend in a religious order. My friend said I'd be okay. He said McCarrick 'loved seminarians' but we were safe because we were not studying for New York Archdiocese. This was in 1978. This all was a looming disaster and I chose to be Protestant.
@alanbourbeau24
@alanbourbeau24 Год назад
As a Catholic Christian, I understand that there’s some people that used to be Catholic but decided to leave the faith because of the sexual abuses committed by catholic priests and I understand that they’re extremely angry and livid about the local archbishops and Bishops who aren’t taking control of the situation and they’re probably not happy with the current Holy Father, Pope Francis. So yes, I understand how they feel. But there’s no way that I’m going to leave my Catholic faith.
@erikriza7165
@erikriza7165 Год назад
Alan, Thank you. Same here.
@capecodder04
@capecodder04 Год назад
I grew up in Boston and I'm also a cradle Catholic who's never been abused but I was certainly in situations where it could have easily happened but it didn't for whatever reason but I too won't leave my Catholic faith and throw the baby out with the bath water because of some very evil acts by a small percentage of Priests. I'd rather help throw them out first and completely purge our Church than leave the One, True, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
@vascoa
@vascoa Год назад
@samuel alíren Faith or leaving the church is not the issue here. Worrying about the lost of faith is what keeps these priests in power. first come the victims and their justice. Only then and, completely up to them, is faith to be thought about.. Wouldn't worry about damnation anyway, they already went through it. And some kept their faith regardless.
@petermacander2061
@petermacander2061 Год назад
IF ALL CATHOLICS ABANDON THE STRUGGLE BECAUSE OF SINFUL PRIESTS, WHO WILL BE LEFT IN THE CHURCH TO PERSEVERE IN THE FAITH? WHO WILL BE LEFT TO BE FAITHFUL TO CHRIST? ONLY "THOSE WHO PERSEVERE TO THE END WILL BE SAVED." [MARK 13: 13].
@fritula6200
@fritula6200 Год назад
Why didn't these coward Catholics who left the Catholic Church; if they were so indignant why didn't they take action and done something about the victims of the sexual abuse: Instead of deserting these victim children.... what horrible people, self centred and selfish humans...
@jamesmaranki526
@jamesmaranki526 5 месяцев назад
When I was in the seminary, I constantly heard the bull shit regarding ontological change. They always stressed this ontological change with ordination.
@ricdavid7476
@ricdavid7476 Год назад
Jesus did not end what God created jesus ended sin not evil. God created good and evil Isaiah 45,v7 and they still exist , sin does not . All man made abrahamic religions post 70 ad teach all men are still born sinful and that is a lie. If you teach an evil lie then only evil will come from it. As said here there are good and evil people in what passes for the church as there are in the world. God is not interested in the flesh anymore it's truth and lies he is concerned about.
@mjrooney710
@mjrooney710 5 месяцев назад
JESUS CHRIST IS PRESENT IN THE HOLY EUCHARIST. NEVER LET ANYONE TAKE THAT AWAY FROM YOU.
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