Maptun Stage 3+ Tune on My 2003 Saab 9-3 2.0T - The Perfect Daily Driver Power! 

lol nice!

you should have left it like that wouldve been sick

@@kylesdogyt4824 wouldn’t have made much difference either; back in those days I rarely filled the tank anyway!

me too!

It´s not really a vacuum/boost gauge meter on newer Saabs after the 9000 and the 900 ;) But still nice to look at ;)

Facts

Always wanted a Saab growing up but never materialized

nice! that would be a cool build to see

Thank you! Glad you enjoy 😁😁

Absolutely!!

Right on! thanks

It really is!

They’re solid cars for sure😁👊🏼

thank you! appreciate it

nice

How much was that?

:) thanks!

Thanks!

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Thanks!

Thanks :')

Glad it was helpful!

You could have just gotten a do88 intercooler!

awesome

i'd search some forums or facebook groups for info on that. i don't have a ton of knowledge on classic 900's unfortunately

Plis take it to a dyno...I do have a 02 9-3 SE mt and would like to know if 300 hp are possible without internals mods...

@@juancarloslozano3374 All the research I have done, stock internals of the B205R will handle 350hp or so with no issues. When you get above that forged pistons, sleeves, and crank is what would be needed. I haven't got vehicle out of garage yet this year because it is just starting spring here in PA. Maybe someday I will get it to the dyno, but not anytime real soon. Sorry. If interested, talk to Nick taliaferro at Genuine Saab. He is really good, and you will be impressed.

nice

Great, make sure you’ve got the proper supporting mods of going beyond stage 1!

It already has that haha, thanks though!

correct

Whaaattt?!? Ok definitely picking it up now

Awesome

what mods have you done? 'cause i'm planning on modding mine (same car) and i'm looking for the best combination maptun/hardware.

nope, all arc's are 4 cylinders!

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I'm not sure about any international parts suppliers; i'd check to see if there's a saab mexico facebook group

yeah, the B207 honestly isn't good for a ton of power without building it, but a motor like the B204 is super strong!

@@AutoAutopsy which ones have the b204?

might be your filter giving you fits; i get that code about once a year because of my K&N filter

@@AutoAutopsy Mines Stock so doubtful. The other posibility is the TPS, the throttle body or an issue with the MAP sensor. I dropped it off to the SAAB specialist Yesterday so he'll phone within the next day or so to tell me what the issue is. Just hope its not the ECU "again"

@@AutoAutopsy Lol finally found the problem. Split in the bottom of the intercooler couldn't see it until it was removed. Absolute nightmare as the intercoler looked perfect whilst bolted in the car.

Thanks!

All of it.

^ (not 100% on exact PSI, to answer your question)

@@AutoAutopsy Alright thanks, no worries

You can skip to whatever stage you want, as long as you meet the requirements for that stage. He said the requirements for the stage 3 tune in the video. Maptun’s website also lists their requirements for their tunes.

it'll spin my tires through first but it also has a torque limiter in first and second gears

@@AutoAutopsy but you can also remove it with the tuner can't you

Just uploaded this video which might help a bit: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4YR4ONFVW3w.html

Yep it can handle this power level great!

@@AutoAutopsy good to know! I'm considering a 9-3 Aero convertible ss a fun cheapie runabout and not sure if I can be bothered to change gear after years of auto boxes lol

lol oof!

@@AutoAutopsy atleast it doesn't read 5mph slow cuz then id probably be getting speeding tickets lol, also I wonder if the speed being off has something to do with the higher speeds being closer together

it can; it will not push anything past its limits. i have had no issues.

i would believe it!

Exhaust for sure. Check this video out: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bjV78gxPoKw.html

no buying the maptuner means you don't need to touch the ecu. what you need will depend on what stage you decide to go with

yes, stage 1 would give you an extra 40hp or so. Please email me (AutoAutopsyYT@gmail.com) or DM me on instagram (faster way - Auto.Autopsy) so we can schedule something

Cool man! I just emailed you.

genuine saab or maptun for exhaust; do88 for the intake

they're just bcp7es-11's with .8mm gap

i mentioned mods done in this video. i also have a video discussing common mods done to these cars: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bjV78gxPoKw.html BOVs are a bad idea on these cars btw

@@AutoAutopsy I bought the car a little over a year ago, the guy I bought it from did a motor and trannies rebuild about 40,000 miles ago now, he also did the exhaust, Bov, cai etc and I'm positive it's got a tune, just not sure what stage and by who..,...whatever he did, he did right because I have no lights on and it runs like a beast I've beat it at times and taught my wife to drive standard on it all with zero issues (knock on wood) but now I wanna get into a little more mods

Yes you need to change all of the required parts for the stage

Swedish Motorsports is the same as Maptun. Their tunes are identical; you might be confusing nm versus ft lbs for torque being readings different. i have no issues with emissions where i live!

Generally tune files are married to specific vin. So no, it won’t work unless BCB is different for some reason

yes, they have a lot of support in the states as mentioned in this video. Swedish Motorsports is their US dealer

You could try emailing tuning companies your vin to see if they have a record of it. Or the PO could probably tell you

I don’t think horsepower equates to fuel economy lol

Contact Swedish motorsports to if you’re in the US. It depends

In the US we mainly use AKI to measure fuel so, low grade is 87 AKI, mid is 89 AKI, and premium ranges from 91-93 AKI

Yep ^ our ratings are different here. your 97 or 99 RON is equivalent to US' 91 or 93!

i believe i explained all of the modifications done in the video; l exhaust, intercooler, intake, etc.

2.0T = T8 2.8T = ME9

yes brew city boost stopped tuning. You should buy from Swedish Motorsports to support a small, US based business who will offer you support stateside .

@@anthonyferra7907 Thank you for the answer. If I do get a tune (which I am still not sure, I am debating between leaving it stock or stage 1), I will get it from Swedish Motorsports. I just wanted Brew City Boost because I live pretty close to them.

You can check local forums for some guys who can make any custom chip as you like, for price 1/10 of maptun. Or check trionictuning and do it yourself🙃

Yep, definitely buy from SMS if you're in the US

A dyno? Nah, I don’t dyno my cars. Sorry.

They are no longer a dealer unfortunately. You can still order directly from Maptun though

that's honestly not too far, relatively speaking

As stated in the title and my video, it’s my daily driver. I have a manual TurboX when I’m really looking to row my own gears that I can use 👌🏼

@@AutoAutopsy oh yeah, my daily driver's a stick shift. Most people in UK prefer a stick shift as their daily driver.

Although a manual gives the impression of better acceleration it is rarely the case. An auto car with compairable specs will always accelerate faster then a stick it boils down to efficiency. An auto trans shifts faster and more efficient than your average driver ( most drivers if not all drivers ) I know it does not feel that way but that is mainly because the torque curve is different, and on top of shifting quicker on average auto cars tend to have a bit higher torque then their manual co part, just takes a little longer to reach their peak on the tourqe curve. Also more times then not and forsure with ng9-3's the auto can handle far more torque then a stick, the auto is good up to about 500nm stock, where as on the stick your clutch is pissed at anything over 350nm, and will not make it very long on a stock clutch. If you want anywhere near 500nm in a ng9-3 your going to need a nice stage 3 clutch, and even then your avreage driver dosent shift properly to begin with and will still burn up clutches like crazy at those numbers.

It's optimised to run on 93 octane fuel. You will lose some performance on 91 and even more on 89. If you consistently run lower octane fuel and have no intention of getting 93, you can ask Maptun for a tune optimised for lower octane ratings. It won't really give you any extra performance but it will be more consistent because the ECU won't try to increase performance beyond the capabilities of 91 octane.

Yeah, definitely run 91 or 93 if you're tuning or modifying the car. I would run 91 or 93 if it's stock too, tbh

Not really. It’s a chassis that handles great!

idk what that is lol

no; each file/stage is paid for separately!

@@AutoAutopsy that sucks. It’d be cool if you could buy stage 6 and it came with all the stages. But fair enough, thanks 🙏🏼

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Downpipe is the most important, but rest of the pipe is also good to change. He has everything from the turbo back

@@randomthings43 So it's a decat?

@@stevencorns9026 i don’t remember, he has a video where i he got it custom made, might have been with a sport cat.. But i can say for sure a sport cat works more than well for stage 3(+) im runnig the same mods + a bigger turbo with a sport cat and it made 300hp and 410nm crank

But i can say for sure that you will not be making those numbers reliably with a original downpipe and/or original cat

You can always “borrow” the handheld tuner from Maptun and then send it back afterwards :) I would reach out to them to inquire about that

Maptun is cheaper than most other reputable tuners, maybe all. The prices you saw in the screen recording is for all parts required to make the power possible, not just the file itself. The file is not very expensive.

Gotcha.

honest for a sec i thought that aswel lmfao 👍😆😆

Both are good, main flaw on the 9-3 NG from 03 and up Is the ECU location on top engine's, the heat eventually will damage the ECU and you will need to get a good one and program it... that's my experience.

See this video for some perspective on it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Q2zgHFjqRv0.html

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Running stage 3 now ~300, holding up fine. Going with a T5/T7 hybrid engine and going for 380-400 bhp/480nm on the stock auto trans

yep, they're good motors to mod as well!

I was referring mostly to the power level given the motor and mods required for that power

@@AutoAutopsy I recommend it if anyone has the b207r to get full bolts on e85 with the 16t it's amazing.

@@bigreddaman5988 Sorry to comment on an old comment, but could you explain a little bit more what you mean? I crashed my last 2007 9-3 2.0T (very sad.. had a stage 1 tune on it, loved that car..) and just got a 2011 9-3 2.0T XWD. Toying with the idea of putting some real upgrades into it once I sort out some basic issues. Thanks.

Yes it can

Stage 1: only need the tune and K&N air filter, brings it up to 210 which is the tune of the big T, b.k.a. Aero or Arc.

What would I need if I wanted to do a stage two? Would I have to have the intake and exhaust done?

No; stage 1 from maptun requires no mods. Stage 2 requires exhaust. visit maptun's website and explore around with their tuning stages and options.

Perfect thank you!

@@AutoAutopsy Hey just saw this video, If I live in the US can I get a maptune tune it myself here or is there any other company? New to this

It’s making more power, so technically yes. Good tuners, such as Maptun, always ensure you car won’t be pushed too hard with the tune.

@@AutoAutopsy Ah okay I see, thanks for the reply. In the UK there is this guy noobtune who is apparently very good :)

my car is an automatic, so no upgrades to the transmission

i'm not sure what you mean; do88 makes intakes for these cars

@@AutoAutopsy I bought the Neptune chip and went cold air intake and got 285 HP.the maptun is 2 grand?

im getting the most power from 70 MPH to 140 MPH

No that's called a Dyno!

I haven’t messed with the data logger yet, but it might be able to. Your tune will already tell you roughly what you make though..

@@AutoAutopsy I'm just saying because i have a 3inch krona downpipe, with 3inch straight pipe with greddy muffler exhaust, cold air intake do88, upgrade actuator,and Forge bypass valve, and FMIC that's withstands 500hp, so I know maptun stage 1 tuning said it will be 250hp but I'm guessing it's more with the other upgrades I have on it already

How did you add the apps to your maptuner x?

they are definitely reliable when well taken care of!

@@AutoAutopsy , I believe they are more reliable than bmws.

yeah, it'll spin my brand new tires through first gear, lol! (even with that dumb torque limiter)

It's a p0033 code

Your ECU is bad?? Mine is...I'm in the process of getting one good and programing it...

search forums and facebook groups, you'll find a solution.

I totally agree. I’ve owned 93s with both, while the V6 does have a nice kick it just doesn’t seem as refined overall as the 2.0T 207R. With the V6, the whole car feels heavier and not nearly as nimble, plus maintenance is more involved and the V6 runs annoyingly hot. I’ve never really seriously wanted for more than the stock 210 HP tune. Living with hot muggy summers in SW Ontario I think I would be more inclined towards investing in a DO88 intercooler before upping the tune. Bare in mind this is the opinion of a 51 year old guy who doesn’t drive like he stole it.

@@nolanpratt4291 I’m putting a DO88 intercooler into my 9-5 next week and can’t wait to see and feel the difference

@@nuttycommuter3718Would love to know if you feel the difference. I’ve just learned on really hot days to not cut left turns too tight from a standing stop in an intersection. Definitely left my heart in my throat a couple times early on! I’ve never really noticed a serious short coming on the highway on hot days with the turbo already spooled up. Still I have to think the intercooler upgrade would be the most noticeable hardware improvement. I don’t really launch my 93 like a teenager anyway. Stock it’s already fast enough to get impounded. If you think of it come back and drop a comment!

@@nolanpratt4291 I will indeed. All the reviews say it’s well worth having as the stock intercooler is so bad so even if you don’t do any other tuning, it’s still a worthy upgrade. I’ll let you know

Each has their advantages and disadvantages for sure! I still think i prefer the V6 a bit more, but love both

Rewatch the intro please. Maptun..

What?

@@AutoAutopsy I think he meant Dual exhaust lol

I don't know where you live...

We spoke several times.. Agreed to meet at s.o.c or at another time.. It be a competitive pull..

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it does!

25-26mpg combined

nope; just regular fluid flushes

it's already identical to the 03-05 aero mechanically!

rip :/ sorry to hear

You still got that fuel pump?

@@continuousminer sure do bro, I think I have a sending unit too, it fixes the fuel gauge problem with out changing the hole damn thing, I gotta search for that though

@@20block.Pologroundz i think you gotta drop the tank so may as well do both... my pump works but im rounding 200k on the car and cant be sure its been done by a previous owner... i definitely need the sending unit / sensor. My fuel gauge has never worked and likely been broken since 150k on the odometer, maybe even sooner. Whereabouts you from? The States? Got a price in mind? that Maptuner comes with tunes on it?

@@continuousminer yeah I’m located in Cali, price not sure man what ever sounds reasonable, I’ve never shipped anything so your going to have to walk me through it lol and the tuner I found it in my storage and unfortunately it’s busted seems like coolant might have leaked from a box on top and it won’t turn on, had to do some digging for the fuel pump today, couldn’t find the extra sensor but the fuel pump has one attached.

LOL, i am very blessed that both of my 9-3's have working fuel gauges

should i be happy my 900ng fuel gauge works?

I have never had fuel gauge issues

@@MM-rf8ml 3 Saab 9-3s. All had fuel gauge problems. They were cursed.

@@chancock4222 wow! Didn't know that. Mine is 196k miles never had it.

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they're the same company lmao