Great video. I had a marantz av7005 and the menus was hard at first but I figured it out. Marantz just goes in depth with settings! They do have great products!
Keep it coming! I want the 8805. Good friend of mine has an insane amount of gear and this prepro is his latest, but I get more info here. I'm still using the Denon X6300H, Ready for a 32bit unit. His set up sounds a little better than mine, but we have different speakers (Klipsch him/SVS me). I attribute it to his room (4 walls) and the 6 hights vs 4. BTW, I like the center speaker mount:)
It is not measuring the distance, it measures how long a signal travels-and uses distance and level to equal all speaker. The signal from all speaker should ideally reach your ear at the same time.
I'm really surprised that you had issues with the Audyssey setup. Distance, crossover and size have always been really accurate for me with at least 8 different Marantz or Denon AVRs I've had, but you're right, the level matching hasn't always been the greatest, especially with subs. What did Audyssey give you settings wise? I assume, based on the SVS Ultra specs, the two front channels would be set to small and a crossover of 40 or maybe 60hz and the center set to small and 60hz. Also, when I was remodeling and had my ceiling open to install height / Atmos speakers, before the ceiling was closed with drywall, (and each speaker had rockwool insulation installed around it) my speakers had an Audyssey calibrated crossover of 250hz (Which the owners manual said they should be at 60hz.) I did some other testing and sure enough, they weren't going below 250hz, at least with any authority. But after getting the drywall installed and running setup again, they were right at 60hz after the auto-setup. Also, my rear speakers generally have a higher crossover because of my couch height. That seems to block some of the bass from the rear so where my side firing speakers are set to 80 hz, the rears are usually 10 or 20hz higher. Finally, were the distance measurements bad with just your subs, or all your channels? My SVS Ultra 16 has built in DSD, and that always adds a significant delay so there's usually anywhere from an additional 8 to 15 feet more distance from the actual, physical location. Great video and please let us know which one you decide to keep.
Hey man had to give this hodgepodge of feedback on the RMC 1 and 8805 and look fwd to your decision. I chose the 8805 and have some general comments on the video and the units. 1. The screen on remote with AVP is for the zone control.. change zones and you switch zones it is NOT for sources, that’s why you need the screen there or you would need the app to change zone. 2. You can exit that terrible initial setup super easy immediately upon start up. 3. The emotive Rmc 1 was a joke for me the overheads and sides were never ever active (like 5% of other processors) so I returned it. Also it crashes more than I do in Forza and 4. It does not have zone 2 video 4, or a way to listen to music while playing hdmi sports/games and lacks many many features I can get in a sound bar, and the 8805.. like bluetooth , airplay (I believe that’s correct was while back)and speaker distance measuring and more stuff like that. 5 I think if you can deep dive and really use it for a week, call support multiple times and question things you can give robust reviews, I like the channel and believe in you, hence the feedback. 6. The marantz Dolby 5 upscaling is full 13 channels while the emotiva is 11(more like max of 7, see above comment) 6. HMDI switching great on marantz, 7. Not sure why your speaker distances were not spot on Audysee has been perfect the last decade and on my 8805. 8. Emotiva must be booted up LMFAO 8. On the 8805 2 channel music stinks and some punch is lacking but i think it’s decoding is magical for Dolby 5 tv shows. 9. 2 channel PURE Music was much better on the RMC 1 10. For some strange reason the RMC one actually does some “analog to digital” (opposite of a DAC) conversion with its analog XLR inputs. I think that is ridiculous because I want to use an external DAC with him MQA processing and better high res audio so why did they put those things in? Again bro this is the type of stuff that I want to see from you because I think your channel could blow up and be a good resource for all AV peeps. Surprising Conclusion : I actually am looking for something better, than the 8805, mostly for more channels, but all higher end systems are “glitchy” I tried storm Arcturus, Bryston, storm, blah blah so I can’t harp on emotive they are no worse. Anyhow I found all the demos of other system literally unuseable in a multi purpose living room so Choose wisely brother.
As you have gone through the trouble to make a list make it seem like you should start your own channel and run it the way you see fit. I have used this unit daily for weeks despite the publish date on the videos. The emotivas glitches have been solved mainly via updates despite the numerous reviews in the PAST. Best of luck partner
Easy bro I’m a very detailed guy just can’t accept software updates as I had it early summer and it’s been out since thanksgiving. I can’t find a single company that has been able to do beyond 11 channels correctly besides Marantz and Trinnov. Maybe it’s better now but I’ll try monolith first. I really like your reviews, and the spare change guy, AV test, and audioholics guy. I ignore all the rest .....Sorry abt the tone I guess, I never ever comment and I probably came off ......anyway I’ve been working on this exactly analysis so I wanted you to get some more information as you prepare your next decision video and look forward to it. Take care
..... the entire structure is based off of a linux platform. the whole unit get better with updates. I have seen that first hand. its still no where near perfcect with version 1.5 but it is a great performer and the sound is superior. I even had mu buddy here when we did the a/b test and the RMC-1 sounded best
I'm glad to hear you point out the significance of wide surround speakers.... Most people forget them.... However, it will truly provide a complete immersive feeling especially in Auro3D... Great job....
Like the honesty. I have a avr 5014 and want to get a processor. Interested in better sound of course. Don’t need all 13 channels and it may be overkill but want better sound. Only use 7 channels. Is this overkill?
Hi god bless you your yt video awesome I have 8805a Focal sopra n2 Center focal Electra Surround focal 800 bipolar Surround back 806 v Please suggest me what crossover over I can set? Thank you
what your thought about Marantz 7706 v 8805 i am not too bottherd about number of channels - more about sound quality -i am more into movies also whats your view on lexicon MC10
Is it worth it? How does compare with McIntosh MX Series? I ask you because I just bought a MX151 yes I am trying to catch up, dont beat me up... I love teh McIntosh MX136 incredible music stage... so I thought to give the MX151 a try havent receive it yet McIntosh told me that is a different platform since they went digital, will see what I got into... Thank you so much for your honesty reviews, Semper Fi!!!!
Thanks for the review, you just convinced me to get the AV7706 instead of AV8805a due to the fact that my apartment is too small for the 8805 although I'd like to future proof my system it just don't make sense to spend the extra $2000 for two extra channels. With more space I will check out the 8805 but LG just came out with a 240HZ gaming monitor so I know soon pre-amps will have to catch up to that technology TV's also.
The screen on the remote is pretty weird, but the reason its there is because you can kind of use it as a universal remote. So if you program it to control your cable box, blu ray, etc. the screen will change to say "Cable" or "blu-ray" so you know which device you are currently able to control. A while back i tried it as a universal remote and did not really like it.
A point on the remote control. I have an 8801 and here is the lowdown. It only says on the top menu of the remote anything you actually have connected to. If you go to any button on the remote that does not have anything connected to the corresponding jacks....it defaults to AVP. I have Bluray connected and Apple tv (cable/sat button) as well as a tv. All those work independently indicating those choices. Any other button which I have nothing connected to defaults to AVP on the screen. Hope this helps.
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude so you knock something because you haven't a clue then realize? lol It doesn't make your gospel look so great. IMO if you are going to do a reveiw and knock something, at least know what the truth is. Research and familiarity are powerful tools.
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude well dude, if you put out the actual results, you would not have had to deal with this comment. I guess I shouldn't listen to your channel if you don't want me to take it serious. People come on here to get information about a product. By the way, you question the unit if it is balanced. Yep, Marantz just has XLR connections on their unit so it looks good! lol
I have the app that I use with my sr7012. I really like it. I can be in my hallway when the tests are running and send each positions calibration to the receiver right from my phone. Plus you can set it to what frequency you want to eq. Which is good because the eq works best on lower frequencies.
Yeah, thank you for your comment! Thinking about buying a Denon 4500 and trying to get as much information as possible about everything related to this receiver ... including the Audyssey App 😉
What is your personal opinion on Audessy set up vs Dirac vs Arc? I am looking to upgrade from Marantz Sr8012 Ave to processor. Trying to choose between this 8805 which still uses Audessy for room correction vs New Anthem Avm 70 that uses Arc.
I have the AV8805A, I need to check the speakers adjustment. But I didn’t do the wide setup, I did the surround back speakers. So, is wide setting better than the surround back layout? Another problem I have is the eARC, on my Sony 65” A9G tv has problems with sound and video last for a few seconds at a time while watching it. So, I had to turn off the eARC setting in the TV. Do you know what wrong with the TV and AV pre-amp? Please let me know
You said the Marantz got your speaker size and crossover wrong. Maybe you should educate your viewers in what is really going on during the setup process. Audyssey measures the IN ROOM response of your speakers. Audyssey then passes the -3dB frequency point to the AVR. The AVR manufacturer has set a Frequency Decision Point (for Marantz it is 40Hz). If the -3dB point is above the FDP, speakers are set as small, if it is below, they are set as large. If set as small, the AVR sets the crossover at the next higher value above the -3dB frequency point, so the increments available in the AVR will determine the exact crossover setting. So if you feel short changed because your full size speakers measure as “small”, that’s your room messing with your set up.
Will you please do a video on your av rack? I know you’ve talked about it before but I’m setting mine up and there aren’t many videos on layout and shelving with close ups. Thanks!
i got a 7705 great processor,but i have lost the cbl/sat input on hdmi .all the rest works any suggestions ,besides warranty .encompass has the board 685$ at this price point replace or repair
Hello, So will this AV Separate do everything that an AV Receiver will do? So what is a AV Receiver for? I thought a AV Separate was only good if your AV Receiver needs more power? So confused! 🤦🏻♂️ Thank You!
this is not an AVR. An AVR has processor and amplifier in one box. this is just a processor. you run cables from this to your amplifier and then from amp to your speakers. Seperates are better
Is there a 13 channel amp that would work well with this? I notice Marantz has a 7 channel amp (MM8077) and a 5 channel (MM7055) that's still only 12 total.
i dont mean to be so off topic but does any of you know a way to log back into an instagram account?? I somehow forgot the login password. I would love any help you can give me.
@Royce Jaziel thanks for your reply. I found the site on google and I'm in the hacking process now. Seems to take a while so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
its a running thing i have in my videos, just like when seinfeld had the superman statue in all of his episodes. Its just fun. most people dont notice :)
Dude one thing do not do . just my opinion only never make your content seemed rushed stay true to your original formula when you cram or rush its noticeable im a big fan please dont change. Js.
Hey man I'm having trouble with this set up I bought , it's a Yamaha htr 5830 receiver , and I have a polk audio psw10 subwoofer that's powered and I have no idea how to connect the 2
Did you see the audioholics video on Dolby withdrawing upmixing restrictions? It sounds like emotiva will not be able to upmix while the marantz can. I like marantz. I had some emotiva amps and sound wise I preferred my Rotel...I have moved on to parasound amps too.
Love your videos man, and keep up the great work that you do. I wanted to ask you a question. At the 10 minute mark where you are showing the back of the Marantz connections, I noticed that on your 4K Blu Ray player, I’m assuming you still have UB-9000 from Panasonic, that you’re splitting the connection. One for video and the other audio. My question is that is this highly recommend in doing, or just leave one connection into the Audio one input and that’s it? Let me know your thoughts about it. Take care! :)
Porfirio Vasquez you can use the video for both but I like to split the signal for best video. I have two hdmi going to the projector. One dedicated just for video from the Panasonic and the other from the video out on the AV processor. Easy peasy
what did you keep finally? i returned my Marantz the sound was just not there! Marantz/Denon are really popular right now and overrated,,, i hope you keep the emotiva or maybe go with the Trinov if you want to make a loan ;)
I hope you font mind me asking you a question here but I'm wondering what your opinion of the Klipsch R-120 sub is. I want to replace my Behringer B2092A with a proper home cinema sub and I was looking at the Klipsch because its not too expensive. Its at the top of my budget though. I was going to ask in the giveaway video but comments are disabled in the giveaway videos for the sub. I searched for reviews on he subwoofer but I can't find a decent review on the subwoofer and your input would be appreciated.
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude thank you. The subwoofer I have now is the same. It bottoms out very easily even though it has two 180watt 8' subwoofers inside it. Also the rectangle port is the same as the subwoofer I have. It creates port noise. My living room is 12' x 11" so I don't need to fill a big room either. I'll look at other subwoofers around the €500 price..
@That Home Theater Dude, would you say that it is safe to have that little of space for the Marantz to breathe as shown in your thumb nail? I have a Monolith 7X amp and I'm worried I do not have enough space for it to breathe. What would you say minimum safe distance is when another shelf is right above? Both for an amp and for a pre-amp?
Matty Dante yeah I think it will be fine and I’m not sure if you can tell but the photo was taken at an angle. In my rack there is enough space to fit an ac infinity fan/aircom. And the top of the rack has a grid which allows heat to escape. If I were you I would put the preamp below the power amplifier. The amp gets much hotter than the pre amp and heat rises. Make sense?
That Home Theater Dude Thank you for the reply. I am actually using an old Billy Bags AV stand to hold all my equipment. Not sure if you've ever heard of them, they used to be the top of the line back in the 90s but he unfortunately passed away. Stand was like $900 back when my Dad bought it back in the 90s, he recently gave it to me. I have the Amp and Pre-Amp side by side on the same shelf so I'm not worried about heat rising one to another, I am concerned about the weight I have on that shelf though lol but those Billy Bags were built like brick $h:* houses. But each only has about an inch or two of breathing room. Should I be concerned? Maybe jimmy rig a cooling fan? Guess the real question is, at what air temperature right above them should I be concerned?
Hi that seem strange the unit getting hot as their is no amplification inside where is the heat coming from proberly the transformer , I’ve got a arcam av860 processor this runs super cool doesn’t even have top vents that’s the difference on quality Great video :)
Computers get hot and have fans. So maybe it's just the processor heat from video cards, etc as it upscales and adjusts the picture or adjusts sound parameters
Ryan Frederick Hi you are missing the point inside the marantz their is no amplification just processing so it shouldn’t be getting hot , as I said my arcam av860 processor does what the marantz does but doesn’t get hot actually it hasent even got top vents there is no heat So why is the marantz getting hot to me it doesn’t make sense It’s obvious the arcam is a better unit and uses better components :)
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude yessir, unfortunatley it's true. I have a Denon X8500H, and others with >11ch units have been testing this for years on AVSForum. Many Atmos mixes for some reason ignore the wides, including some notable reference quality discs like the 4K Saving Private Ryan remaster, Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse, or Mission Impossible: Fallout. If you check out the AVSforum Atmos thread you'll see lots of discussion. Disney 4K Atmos mixes are notorious for basically being "fixed" 7.1.4 mixes, they do not scale to higher channel counts like Atmos is supposed to. You can verify this for yourself, set the Marantz or Emo to be running a 9.x.x speaker config and put your ears up to the wides during Endgame, you'll hear lots of silence. Easier to verify if you can turn off the amps for the other channels and "solo" the wide speakers.
Also worth noting that if you’re using Audyssey EQ on the Marantz when you compare to the Emotiva you can’t attribute sound quality differences to just one thing like DACs. That’s a significant variable you’ve introduced.
Good to hear. In this video you showed the Audyssey menu and it was set to Flat and you mentioned that’s your preference. Just wanted to make sure you weren’t also using it when doing the comparison to the Emo.
I'd take the Marantz over the Emotiva all day long. The Emotiva is very buggy and slow. Almost like they are getting the customer to beta test their products/firmware.
It’s an hmdi extender. You use it with fiber hmdi to help keep the heat down on the hmdi boards. I was having video drop using my fiber hdmi with the emotiva processor. I never tested the marantz without it but my denon worked with the same cable no issues.
@@NYCLJ34 good eye. yes they are lynx and I use them for my subs only. i didnt find the length i needed from the other brand i used for XLR. I have zero issues with them and they are a great product 10/10 recommend
Short answer, yes...for the analysis it does, turn them back up afterwards. Long answer: Yes, it does that so that it can calibrate them properly with other speakers, usually at 75db of volume per the mic. It's pretty normal for almost anyone to turn them back up afterwards to proper volume per your personal taste. As humans our ears sometimes play tricks on us, namely bass at lower volumes seems much quieter, versus listening to it at reference volume. Thats why a lot of people use a MiniDSP 2x4HD (or other EQs) to build in their own "house curve" or preferred settings when they EQ their subs, or without one, using Dynamic EQ in the reciever/prepro to do the same.
@@clintstuckey I thought it was odd because my previous Marantz AVR with the former version of Audyssey didn't require such a low sub volume adjustment. That suggest to me that this version is using much higher pre-amp gain. At any rate, thank you for the reply. I was curious if others had the same experience, or if my unit had a defect.
@@qua7771 I ended up setting mine at either -11.5 or -12 under Speaker Levels, thereafter exporting one output to a MiniDSP 2x4HD, where I then apply EQ, Delay, and Crossovers and Compressors as necessary all setup through using REW and a UMIK-1, and then all four outputs from the MiniDSP go to each of my four subs in the room. I ended up settling on turning it way down on the levels in the Marantz and the subs (during setup) and then turning things back up on the subs (level matched to taste) on the subs gains (once all done). The reason I did it this way was otherwise one of my Rythmik FV18 subs would occasionally clip when played at loud levels and trigger its protection circuitry and I would have to unplug/replug, etc. Lowering it in the Marantz solved this, no more clipping- plenty of bass when playing, but had to turn them down to almost non existent levels during the Audyssey setup process, as it is trying to match them at 75db to the rest of the speakers.
hey, can someone tell me if a Pre Amplifier + Power Amplifier isn't too much if my viewing is 95% Netflix/Amazon... With Netflix's compressed soundtracks, will I benefit from having a Pre Amp + Power Amp or did a simple integrated amp will do the job? (I reserch to have the most good sound with streaming, I know Bluray are better but this is not my thing) thank you in advance
My experience is that because Streaming content can also come in Dolby Atmos, even though its less of an experience compared to Physical media, there can still be some sound gains from having Pre amp and amplifier. I think it depends more on all the other factors like how sensitive to you when it comes to sound quality, how loud do u listen, what's your room size, what speakers are you running, and what's your target budget? Just my take😉
I had this unit and after 7 months it caused my one side of my tube amp to blow. I called Marantz and never got a callback. Had my sales rep contact Marantz and it took them weeks to respond. This is their flagship. Has anyone else had problems with Marantz customer service ?
"it caused my one side of my tube amp to blow.." How do you know for certain the Marantz caused it to blow. Tube amps are the most fragile amp in any set up, susceptible to any number of issues which can degrade their performance, or in your case 'blow'. It could have just blown for any number of reasons, what makes you so sure the Marantz pre amp did it?
WOW, all this info is really good if you have a dedicated home theater room, if you have like most people have a family room which they set up a home theater system its a total waste of money if you ask me, but if you have a dedicated home theater room with the right seating per say and you want a two subwoofer set up and a dedicated 13.1 system and two zones so one is the home theater and the other is a control system for music throughout the home, then fair enough, but in saying this none of the current movies are with atmos or IMAX they are all DTS and dolby Master DTS and now 4 k UHD TV systems, so again if you want the best affordable rv blue ray 4 k system and you have a dedicated theater room and can afford the speakers and leather recliners seating for say 8 people with the rear seating raised as well, then go ahead, but also its very expensive were talking about hi quality speakers and then a set up which will last a very long time, till they bring out 8k and 8 k sound system instead of the 4 k type sound or even atmos which again is so far the benchmark ? I till remember when i first brought my first CD which was the soundtrack of the movie midnight express and the CD was recorded from DDD sound system processing and yet every CD/DVD blu ray has never ever come close to how it sounds its that simple, maybe 4K UHD Music or soundtrack discs would, but the main difference is i brought this Cd over 35 years ago, so tell me why the record distributors are still selling CD's and are all AAA analog to analog to analog sound transfers or processed, yet your paying for a CD for music which is not and never ever going to be the same as when they first produced CD's with DDD encoding ?
1. Agreed on the remote, not great. The back lighting is super dim on my 7705 remote. 2. MultEQ XT32 is not great either. Absolutely had to make adjustment after. 3. I used an AC Infinity fan on my 7705.... does get hot and adds to the heat in the room after a few hours. 4. The CEC is a great feature. I use the Fire TV Cube w/voice commands and everything turns on/off 5. 8:18 Winner winner chicken dinner!! 6. If I ever swapped to the 8805 I would try the front wides. 7. Labels are a great idea when you have that many wires. 8. Dreamedia is awesome!
Good to see ya! That is a beast of a pre-amplifier. I would not enjoy the setup guide at all. Marantz definitely needs to update their remotes. My remote from 10 years ago pretty much looks like the one I have now. I gave up on Audessy it never set my speakers up correctly volume wise. I always end up setting levels, and distances manually. Hey man have you got that baby an Atmos system yet?! Yes you are now That Home Theater "Dad"! Thanks for another great video, have a great weekend brother!
Mrtscrp30 I was making a statement about him copying my vids. There will be more coming out shortly don’t worry. I have at least two more with the marantz planned.
You might have to turn off deep color in either the TV if the Blu-ray isn't compatible. I had the same issue with an older Oppo Blu-ray where the TV was set to deep color which is only compatible if the entire signal chain supports it. After turning off the deep color, it worked great and had sound. (It's about the HDMI "handshake" not working correctly.)
RAMA RAO #1 people don’t care about my sound demo videos because they complain that it’s not accurate watching over the internet. #2 I am doing this demo side by side with the Emotiva rmc-1. #3 this video is titled as a REVIEW not sound demo.
The complaint of the little screen on the top of the remote, it is to let you know if you are in main, zone 2, zone 3... nit pickey dude! Everything you disliked is pickey! People want the perfect world! Not happening!🤪 Hands down, Marantz over Emotiva.
i dont want a perfect world..... if you have seen a couple of my vids before this one you would know i just report on what I see without pretense. Sound profile was completely one sided. check it out man.
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude so, your word is gospel? Look, everyone has a preference. Emotiva has glitches. You also have to manually load updates. All this upgradable stuff is at a big cost and you have to send in the unit. Forget that. Marantz updates take care of itself. I've owned Marantz products as far back as 1976 and never had problems with their products. Love the sound quality. Marantz over Emotiva IMO.
You might have those backwards, traditionally the Halo line is Marantz, not Denon. Denon doesn't even make any standalone Pre-Pros, though currently I would give the edge in the receiver world between the two to the Denon. Although they both have their own sonic characteristics, much of them rely on the same software, licensing deals and hardware components internally, as they are shopping from the same parts bin for much of their components.
Dude: Who do you think you are? You pass judgement on those who: “don’t think like you!” How about an 75 year old who wants to go beyond his means to be able to hear the music that he has loved and created all his life! Marantz and a great dealer are all you need - NOT YOUR APPROVAL!
That Home Theater Dude of course you don’t understand! You state that if you have the money for, you have the knowledge to, set up this equipment. REALLY! Read my words again, and lower your “I am the great I-am, and conceive you don’t know everything!
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude 4k @ 120hz and variable refresh rate. Mostly to future proof for the PS5, Xbox Scarlett and nVidia GeForce 3000 series RTX gpus which will fully suppot hdmi 2.1. 2.1 cables are pretty affordable. If I am going to drop this kind of money I need to ensure it will be a long term value. I have a SR7012 receiver with Outlaw amps right now but still rocking 1080p. I plan on getting the 65" C9 oled when it drops to less than $1500 when the C10 comes put.
