All R211 Info: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--gNqz4h63lk.html. transitinnovation.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/R211%20Tech%20Spec.pdf. R211 specs. www.nytimes.com/2022/09/22/world/europe/andy-byford-mta-london-transport.html new.mta.info/press-release/mta-votes-order-hundreds-more-cutting-edge-r211-subway-cars. secretnyc.co/new-r211-subway-cars-nyc/ Effects of CBTC: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wYwaTEykV34.html. Potential R142/A Conversion to CBTC: new.mta.info/document/103906 Williamsburg Bridge Repairs gothamist.com/news/j-train-closures-expected-for-next-2-years-due-to-williamsburg-bridge-rehab. Armed Guards Used to Stop Fare Evasion: nypost.com/2022/11/29/mta-uses-armed-guards-in-subways-to-stop-fare-evaders/ Fare Hikes: www.fox5ny.com/news/mta-plans-fare-increase-for-2023.amp ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jLdkzLOijvo.html Cameras on Subway Trains: www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-hochul-announces-mta-install-security-cameras-every-new-york-city-subway-car. thecitylife.org/2022/10/23/cops-cameras-and-care/. Service Changes in June: www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/mta-announces-subway-service-changes-coming-in-2023-heres-the-breakdown/4004263/ Credit to all those who contributed to this video.
Here are my calculations on what the rough R211 Car Assignments may be -A/C and Rockaway Park Shuttle (Pitkin+207): 740 R211's (up from 680 in (5-car) equivalents; only =630 needed to run the (C) every 5 minutes and both (A) branches and shuttle every 10). -E/F/R (Jamaica): 765 R211's, 355 R160's (1120 total with 40 spares each, down from 1290). -D (Concourse): 335 R160 Alstom sets -B/Q/G (Coney Island Yard): 600 R160's/130 (5-car) R179's of which 560 would be in service (MTA may want to do something about Jamaica Yard being over capacity, which is why I have the G back here, and the reduction above) -N/W (Coney Island) 416 R68's + 200 R68A's, of which ... 264 would be in service. Yes, that's 352 spares, or 44 trains... -J/Z: 188 (4-car) R179's, 40 Borrowed R160A-1's (23+5 trains; J/Z currently use 20 during AM Rush hours) -L: 212 R143's, 64 R160A-1's (34 trains; L currently uses 24) -M: 268 R160A-1's, 32 R211's (33+4 trains; M currently uses 24)
Interesting. The (A/C) could receive more R211s than anticipated. 74 consists would be wild. Would also be crazy seeing Jamaica have more R211s than R160s as well. Whatever occurs, I'm merely on a wait-and-see basis
A and C Train will probably get 57 or 59 consists. While Jamaica receives up to 91 to 93 consists. It will increase to 1290 cars to 1455 to 1475 cars and makes the G Train full length trains at 10 cars each
I think the option 1 numbers are correct bc the R32 numbers fit that perfectly. Option 2 will likely be 4500-4937 or maybe up to 4999 depending on length replacing the R42 numbers
I expect the base order and some of the first option order will be given to the A and C Trains in fueled by the 8th Avenue CBTC with a comfortable spare factor in order to prevent another fleet shortage. The Rest Order will go to Jamaica Yard because the E and F Trains because they need extra capacity on the Queens Blvd Line.
If either the metal or softshell set is chosen, I hope to expect that the MTA does not trash/scrap the option that was not chosen. It can a be a rare prototype set running. Like if the soft-shell is chosen and the second order si exercised, then I do want to at least see the "metal" one not thrown away, but at least used! Same can be said vice versa!
18:44 Let's gooo! I reported the presence of the Alstom Siemems Mix btw. I was heading back home when I noticed a strange consist of R160s on the (F) at 179th Street (Uptown). At first I thought it was a normal set but when I saw the numbers I was SHOCKED. So I had to inform everyone that the Alstom siemens mix will run on the (F) to Coney Island. Thank You for mentioning this! 🎉😊
Those R211Ts are definitely going to Staten island Rail way because the R44S are definitely falling apart. Most of the R211AS will be on the A C lines for CBTCS. I'm just letting you know. Probably some R211Ts with open gateways will be on the A C lines also.
The MTA has excluded the 90th Street - Elmhurst Avenue Station as part of the 7 Line Renovations. They must realize that the station is also old and ugly like the ones that are slated to be renovated. Why would they not include the 90th Street Station? I go there once in a while but what I’ve been noticing is that there is peeling paint present inside the station and one of the street exits are in dire need of repairs. May I know if the MTA will or will not include the 90th Street Station. We should inform the MTA about this before the renovations begins for the stations that are slated to be worked on. 😊
Goodnight sir. And that was a awesome video 📹. Sir. Thank-you for keeping everyone up-to-date on the MTA Subway cars fleets Past Present and the future . And Besafe sir. I can't wait until all 211 enters service sir
There have been a ton of developments in the subway since Fall 2022. A lot of the information I have provided was touched upon in this video as well as the planned assignments for the R211's. Of which I won't go any further since I'll be proven correct in two years' time. The one development I heard I am keeping it to myself since it will become known very soon. I expect the R46 retirement to begin sometime in the Fall. As a tie-in to this video, the MTA is slated to begin Crosstown CBTC this year. In addition to awarding Fulton Street IND CBTC in 2023. With 6th Avenue being awarded in 2024. Due to 6th Avenue CBTC and 63rd Street CBTC, it will force the (B) (D) and (Q) lines to be 100% NTT. Meaning the (N) and (W) would have no choice but to use R68/A's.
Indeed there have. Thank you for providing all of the info, it was definitely a massive help, as well as for your additional info here. I do hope the MTA has learned from the past, and doesn’t get too scrap-happy. Although Broadway will be stuck with the OTTs, I realize that it won’t be as bad as people make it out to be, since it’ll be a 50/50 split (Q/R Vs N/W). Astoria may be the most vocal about it however
@@Techno-ov5ss The final say will come down to operational needs when 6th Avenue CBTC comes online. Astoria residents will just have to put up with the R68/A's till the mid-2030's. The MTA will be severely handicapped having SMEE's continue to run on the (Q) line. I'll keep my eyes peeled when 6th Avenue CBTC is awarded.
15¢ increase isn’t that bad. Stores have already increased prices on everything. They have to do what they have to do in order to keep up with this economy.
Great job with the video Techno. Hell crazy thing is, the 211 right now is being prepped for service, beginning at 207th street. Right after the video the train is ready to run. W mta
Had to be NICE buses these days, would’ve been cool for the MTA to have some of them together with the XN40s, but apparently future MTA CNG buses will be more XN40s
Aside from spare fleet and general fleet expansion, I don’t see 4 car sets making sense, I was doing the math and most all ‘4 car set lines’ don’t need R211s, there already NTT equipped, the C will run 10 car R211s bc the 8 car R46s it runs now need 10 car R211s to replace capacity, so the C will be half&half being 8 car R179s and 10 car R211s. Option 2 should be 5 car sets of R211T soft shells IMHO
Maybe they’re trying to increase the spare factor for the BMT East. I could see this happening: (L): All R143s, R16 8313-8376: 276 cars (M): R160s 8377-8616, 32 R211 4-car sets: 272 cars (J/Z): All 4-car R179s, R160 8613-8652, 9943-9974: 256 cars.
@@TheRailLeaguer Here are my calculations on what the rough R211 Car Assignments may be -A/C and Rockaway Park Shuttle (Pitkin+207): 740 R211's (up from 680 in (5-car) equivalents; only =630 needed to run the (C) every 5 minutes and both (A) branches and shuttle every 10). -E/F/R (Jamaica): 765 R211's, 355 R160's (1120 total with 40 spares each, down from 1290). -D (Concourse): 335 R160 Alstom sets -B/Q/G (Coney Island Yard): 600 R160's/130 (5-car) R179's of which 560 would be in service (MTA may want to do something about Jamaica Yard being over capacity, which is why I have the G back here, and the reduction above) -N/W (Coney Island) 416 R68's + 200 R68A's, of which ... 264 would be in service. Yes, that's 352 spares, or 44 trains... -J/Z: 188 (4-car) R179's, 40 Borrowed R160A-1's (23+5 trains; J/Z currently use 20 during AM Rush hours) -L: 212 R143's, 64 R160A-1's (34 trains; L currently uses 24) -M: 268 R160A-1's, 32 R211's (33+4 trains; M currently uses 24)
Well i enjoyed the R211A Today just to get a feel of it and see how it feels and apparently it feels the same as the R179 but i loved it regardless also 9433 was on the M31 yesterday .. a first for Tuskegee Airmen depot since i have never seen any Newflyers ever run on the M31.
Hopefully Jamaica revives R211Ts and Coney Island and Concourse will get displaced R160s/R179s and then the (J) and (Z) will get all R179s. IND FULLY NEW TECH!!!!!!!!!!!
@@TheRailLeaguer I do think that’s gonna happen and the R160s will replace all remaining R46s ( Based out of Coney Island Yard, which includes N Q and W lines ) and this order could also have some R160s shelving some R68s into storage.
@@dallasspotting True though I’m not sure about shelving some R68s into storage. This is considering that we are lengthening trains on the C and G routes as well as expanding the train fleet and we need enough cars for that, so that means no R68s go into storage.
@@TheRailLeaguer They won’t operate on the C and G due to the lines receiving CBTC and R68s aren’t compatible with CBTC, so if we lengthen trains on the line(s) then it will probably be with a fleet of 10 car R211s and R179s for the (C) + 10 car R160s for the (G) However, with the R46s out of Coney Island yard being retired, then all R68s will be based out of Concourse and Coney Island yards. However there is a 0.1/100 that they do get shelved/ retired if the MTA wants 4th Avenue CBTC, Sea Beach CBTC, Brighton CBTC and West End CBTC ( And Concourse CBTC ), but this is HIGHLY UNLIKELY, as the MTA doesn’t have these planned in the Capital Program (2020-2024) and have not hinted these being planned in the 2025-2029 Capital Program
