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Marchant Silent Speed model 8M Review / HowTo 

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The Marchant Silent Speed model 8M from 1938. One of the most sophisticated desktop computing machines ever made.
This is episode 42 of my series about antique calculating devices.
End song inspired by "Hotter Than a Molotov" by The Coup.
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@zhubajie6940
@zhubajie6940 5 лет назад
I remember helping dad at the auto parts store with that in the early 70s when we did inventory with this. I was a pre-teen with nothing better to do. I use to love the division because of the musical sound it seemed to make.
@johneygd
@johneygd 4 года назад
Yeah i do like that mechanicle devide button too just for it’s sound, hahaha.
@xanfsnark
@xanfsnark 11 месяцев назад
My guess is that the reverse setting key has accountants/bookkeepers in mind. Some accounts are shown as a debit balance, and some as a credit for convenience, basically reverses of each other. One way to think of it is your debts are negative money, but we usually show your credit card balance as a positive amount you owe vs a negative amount you have. If you're doing something where you need to add values up from different accounts that show both sign conventions, setting the machine to reverse while you total values could be extremely handy. That way you can keep the muscle memory of hitting the addition key as you accumulate the total.
@jaapsch2
@jaapsch2 5 лет назад
I generally don't collect electric machines, but I would make an exception for the Marchant Silent Speed or Figuremaster. It has a brilliant mechanism where the register wheels rotate smoothly from start to finish - there is no starting and stopping to handle carries. The register works like an odometer, each digit moving at one tenth the speed of the one to its right, and then at the end of the calculation the wheels are adjusted for display so the digits are in the middle of the windows. Each number wheel of the register has a differential gear system driving it, which adds together the input from the keyboard and this continuous carry from the next lower number wheel. Also, it adds 9 in the same time as it takes to add 1, because each column of keys is basically a 9-speed gearbox/transmission, feeding into those differentials I mentioned. There is a manual for this machine on my site. From a quick look, the Reverse button is mostly used to subtract products. www.jaapsch.net/mechcalc/marchant.htm#manuals
@ChrisStaecker
@ChrisStaecker 5 лет назад
Thanks! As always you have the knowledge!
@alanesq1
@alanesq1 Год назад
I have just finished restoring one of these back to working condition, it has been a challenge but got there in the end 🙂 It is an amazing machine, much more refined than my others, even without the case on it is almost silent (compared to my Diehl which would wake half the street).
@bdot02
@bdot02 2 года назад
I love how excited the intro music is
@jimw7550
@jimw7550 2 года назад
I used a Marchant to inventory grocery stores in 1971. Fed numbers as fast as it would take them for hours. Loved the sound.
@gustavgnoettgen
@gustavgnoettgen 2 года назад
Adding backwards? I know an example. I worked in a company where they count seperate articles, often hundreds of them. You can easily lose count so they do that with a scanner (the same ID must be scanned x times). In some occasions they get random numbers of articles, so they count a second time but backwards to verify the result.
@NJMerlin
@NJMerlin Год назад
The Friden EC-130 electronic desk calculator came out in 1963, and in 1965 it was joined by the EC-132, which could take square roots. They cost over $2000, though, so they didn’t immediately take over the market.
@Seb135-e1i
@Seb135-e1i 2 года назад
Oh no wonder I found this channel in my recommended recently - I've been binge watching your adding machines, and once I got to this one, I got some serious deja vu Turns out, I watched a division by 0 on a very similar machine back in 2016 RU-vid's good at that, assuming I'll still like what I liked 6 years ago
@thisnicklldo
@thisnicklldo 2 года назад
I would imagine the Reverse key is just an 'undo' button. Not so great given that it loses the keyboard contents, but if you are paying attention to the input display and see you have entered incorrectly, then Reverse plus whatever you incorrectly keyed plus whatever operation you did should restore the running total. I do remember the divide by zero problem on this type of calculator. In the undergraduate physics lab in 1971 we used a calculator working on the same principles (sorry, don't know what brand, this was in the UK, and I imagine the machine dated from the mid-60's). The second-year students supervising would stand behind the prettiest girl using the machine, key in a divide by zero over her shoulder, then laugh at her panic as the carriage went mad - the theory being that she'd be so grateful for being rescued, the saviour would get a date - I doubt if it worked. This was about 18 months before HP solved the entire problem at a stroke. My father was a design engineer and his design office had a variety of such machines for stress calcs, including a Curta which he brought home to show me in about 1967 or so, plus all the slide rules you could wish for. The instant the HP machines came out they bought 10 and that was the end of all that, though I still have his 20" slide rule on which he was very quick.
@johneygd
@johneygd 4 года назад
The margent “silent” speed 8M adding machine being “ silent” ahahaha it’s everything except being silent,but apart from that it’s still an amezing machine.
@Astroponicist
@Astroponicist Год назад
Always wanted one.
@sighahnyde2215
@sighahnyde2215 2 года назад
Reverse probably helps with negative numbers. If you wanted to add to a negative number it would be easier to keep track what you are doing if you don't have to change the operator. -5 + 2 usually you would have to turn it into 5 - 2 for a machine that doesn't allow negative inputs. Using reverse as the negative part you can input the number and operator as you see them, in this case 'reverse' > '5' > '+' > '2' and then flip the sign on the result.
@ct92404
@ct92404 5 лет назад
Ha, Charles Babbage would be proud!
@magnusmalmborn8665
@magnusmalmborn8665 11 месяцев назад
Reverse is for when you have to subtract a product from your working total. Do one negative multiplication and get it directly, rather than having to write down and re-key your intermediate values.
@JonatasAzeredo
@JonatasAzeredo Месяц назад
Estas calculadoras foram utilizadas no projeto Manhatan
@mctavishmcardle6906
@mctavishmcardle6906 5 лет назад
what happens when you auto-divide by zero?
@ChrisStaecker
@ChrisStaecker 2 года назад
Auto-division is done by repeatedly subtracting the divisor until it can't be subtracted anymore. If the divisor is zero, it'll just keep on subtracting zero forever. In practice this looks like some audible motor grinding, and the counting register counting up and up, but nothing is happening with the other registers.
@MarkEichin
@MarkEichin 2 года назад
@@ChrisStaecker Pretty sure I did that to one of these in the early 1980s... notably, if you unplugged it, and plugged it back in... it kept going, none of the "state" in one of these is *volatile* after all. Never did figure out how to stop it (it probably wasn't in great shape to start with, it was kind of an "educational toy" at that point and needed a lot of cleaning.)
@magnusmalmborn8665
@magnusmalmborn8665 11 месяцев назад
That's when you'll need the stop button.
@ro_yo_mi
@ro_yo_mi 2 года назад
My Curta has the same addition-subtraction swap button. I believe it's for division by subtraction.
@ChrisStaecker
@ChrisStaecker 2 года назад
casual Curta flex
@ragnarhairybreeks
@ragnarhairybreeks 5 лет назад
Superbe :-)
@Naeddyr
@Naeddyr 5 лет назад
What the fuck, that is an honestly amazing machine!
@der.Schtefan
@der.Schtefan 2 года назад
How did it compare to the Friden STW 10 in speed?
@ST0PM0SS
@ST0PM0SS 2 года назад
surprised you didn't try auto dividing by 0 to see what would happen
@Pallethands
@Pallethands 2 года назад
So how do you know where to put the decimal when dividing?
@ChrisStaecker
@ChrisStaecker 2 года назад
Standard long division rules.
@ariaokamailuk1280
@ariaokamailuk1280 2 года назад
from when it started doing multiplication my jaw hung open and I sat in shock until a couple of minutes after the video at the shear mechanical complexity of it The transistor was a mistake
@alairlibreinsfreie5785
@alairlibreinsfreie5785 2 года назад
luckily this wonderfull machine is not as silent as its name sugests... i love the sound
@alairlibreinsfreie5785
@alairlibreinsfreie5785 2 года назад
it is a realy inspiring sound
@billogle4776
@billogle4776 3 года назад
It'a Calculator, not an Adding Machine. Adding Machines were never intended to multiply until Odhner released their model XX which had short cut multiplication
@ChrisStaecker
@ChrisStaecker 3 года назад
I think it's tomato/tomato at this point. Whatever usage was in the past, the word "calculator" nowadays is reserved for electronics. When this machine was made, it was common for "calculator" to refer to a person, right? These words certainly have different meanings & connotations now. I wasn't around back when these things were in use, so I'm not familiar with the nuance of the terminology as it existed back then.
@billogle4776
@billogle4776 3 года назад
@@ChrisStaecker When these machines were made in my day, they were known as Adding Machines, because they would add , subtract, total, subtotal and some would give credit balances. Most had tally Rolls and printed to give an audit trail......Calculators were designed and built to Calculate, multiplication and division, some handle very complex calculations, yes it's true they would add but very slowly compares to the machine that was built specifically for the task. From the humble adding machine came the Bookkeeping machine/Accounting machine , some simple with two or three registers some quite complex with multiple registers . In the late sixties we saw Printing Calculators which tried to combine the functions of the Adding Machine an Calculator, but they were mechanically very complex....What we have today is only here because we had the past
@someonespadre
@someonespadre 2 года назад
My Dad pronounced it Mar-shawn
@ChrisStaecker
@ChrisStaecker 2 года назад
Could be right- I've never heard somebody say it who knows what they're talking about.
@nashvillain171
@nashvillain171 2 года назад
-BASEMENT- FILM STUDIO 😂
@SMWBraden
@SMWBraden 2 года назад
great video if you ever want to sell it for $12 bucks let me know!
@vytah
@vytah 2 года назад
I think that's barely above inflation, you should offer at least $15.
@alairlibreinsfreie5785
@alairlibreinsfreie5785 2 года назад
hello again, mister staecker. i have tried to contact you via your website, announced in the chanal-informations, but it didn't work out. is this website permanently of-line or is it maybe that i have acces-problems to it from germany? i wanted to contact you about the use of some sound-recordings of the silent speed in your video for music. best regards, chris
@ChrisStaecker
@ChrisStaecker 2 года назад
My websites are messed up at the moment, but you can email me- google my name and you can find my email address easily.
@alairlibreinsfreie5785
@alairlibreinsfreie5785 2 года назад
@@ChrisStaecker thank you. i did that, but seems it is not my lucky communations-day. i have wrote you on the contact-form of your university but when i send it i got a brief server-problem message and after that i wasn't able to send again. so perhaps the mail went through, otherwise i will try again tomorow... it is getting late at night here right now.
@ChrisStaecker
@ChrisStaecker 2 года назад
@@alairlibreinsfreie5785 cstaecker@fairfield.edu
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