@@sullythemunstayeah maybe she didn’t know that but it’s also sad that he couldn’t speak about his depression to her and tell her the truth bc maybe it was hard for him but idk that’s what i think but i fully agree with u 🤷♀️
@@zakyaslaysallday nah bro was edgy af for no reason he literally lied why are you acting like depression excuses that when he also puts his pp in her like?
@@Yandereebunnieeit does make lying okay. ginny is a bitch. why would he tell her the truth about why he couldnt hang out when she acts the way she does? ☠️
Its like y'all have no empathy have you never been stressed before, its hard to relies other people have problems too when your blinded by your own problems she's not that bad of a person
@@Randomcat-r8qshe is that bad of a person. she is 15 yrs old and drinks, smokes, has sex, etc. i don’t see why she’s so immature when she does all that.
Those are habits normal people have them, and it started from the pure pressure of her friends telling her to do it. that's not immature that's adult stuff so it is maturity she's not a bad person for having bad habits most people can't control.@@hxxnii
@@kazimirawolf what would Ginny have said if he told the truth?? Ginny constantly abuses her mother who has done nothing but work her ass off to give Ginny a good life and brings up her childhood trauma against her at any moment she can. And if he didn’t give her a reason at all, she would have pushed for one. She would have been a bitch either way, Markus had every right to do what he did to avoid further bombardment from his raging narc gf while he was going through a hard time.
@@kazimirawolf you heard that one folks. Just because someone is a certain way that means you should lie to them. And maybe make them more angry and upset and lash out more than they would have if you were just honest.
@@Henny.777y’all fail to hold georgia accountable for anything it’s not just ginny let’s not forget the things georgia has done too did you not watch the show at all ? even when Marcus broke up with her she was there for him you just don’t like ginny because everyone else hates her
Marcus shouldn't have really lied to ginny but could have just tell her "I dont feel myself right now, maybe later??? Trust is the foundation in a relationship.
This right here is what people are lacking to acknowledge. He didn’t have to tell her what was going on, he isn’t obligated to hang out with her. But he could have been honest and instead lied. Duh we all know what kind of person Ginny is. But just because someone is a certain way doesn’t mean you should lie. Two wrongs don’t make a right. If Marcus doesn’t want to deal with how Ginny is, he doesn’t need to date her. I deal with mental health struggles but I still know that I can’t tip toe around people and lie. If Ginny couldn’t handle it If he told her the truth, then their relationship will be built on lies and 0 communication. Trust and communication is what makes a relationship work. Let’s of course not forget this is a fictional TV show but it is stuff that happens in real life. It’s real life but it’s not at the same time. But if you spend your life lying and being afraid to stand up for yourself or to what you need, you’re going to spend your life being a pushover and letting people take advantage of you and use you. Most of the people defending Marcus are defending him for the reasons of he didn’t owe her an explanation and wasn’t obligated to hang with her. But apparently according to the people defending him, he was obligated to lie. It’s ludicrous.I love this new generation because it’s embarrassing and it makes me laugh and I’m glad to not be part of it. Some people need to open their eyes to reality instead of living in fantasy land
no but it also needs to be acknowledged that it’s hard to tell others that you are struggling. no matter how much you love them or whatver. it’s hard to ask for help
@@Cherry-li6nk again read my comment. And Susana’s. Yes it’s hard to open up to people about depression, BUT that doesn’t make it okay to lie. Again he could have said “hey I’m not feeling the best, maybe we can hang tomorrow night?” Or “I’m just not feeling it tonight I’m sorry Ginny” that’s how he could have not lied without needing to open up on his depression.
@@Yandereebunniee i get lying is bad and stuff but it’s not like he told some bizarre ass lie and hurt her? bro just said he has to do homework 😭 that’s literally the smallest lie in the history of lies. imo and personally i even deny feeling down to my own mom. even if she asks me repeatedly, i’ll just tell her that i am fine and that nothing is wrong. admitting being sad and “feeling down” is also extremely difficult. saying that lying is bad every time an opportunity to say it comes up is looking at it from a very black-white perspective. this kid is suffering from depression which among other things is very isolating and exhausting and is painful. but you all care about that whether he lied to his girlfriend about “doing homework” just to not make a her feel like he is ignoring her cause he doesn’t feel safe enough to open up about his mental health
@@Cherry-li6nk “small” lies still makes people think it’s okay to lie. That is the point. I don’t think there is any good or bad or grey area when it comes to lying. Period.
He didn't need to tell her, but he didn't need to lie either. you act as if he only had two alternatives: lie or tell everything when he could just say he wasn't feeling well and didn't want to go out. it wouldn't be a lie, he would be honest without having to go into details, and that would avoid problems between them.
I loved what they did showing us their breakup first on Ginny's side and then Marcus side, you could empathize with both of them from each perspective, the same happens with Ginny and Georgia, both have different perspectives and that's what I like about this show
Yall she didn't know he was depressed. 😭😭😭 She just knew that he lied to her about why they couldn't hang out, of course she was bothered (BTW not blaming him. I get the whole being depressed and having no energy to socialize). Edit: spelling and grammar corrections
Did anyone stop to think that he isn’t lying, people with depression and mental illnesses want to do well, so we’ll block out time to do work, but then our mind consumes us and we don’t get it done, she just jumped to the conclusion that he lied we don’t actually know
He lied to her though. If you live in a world where you expect people to mind read I think you should go live in a world where that works because that’s not how it works here
I hate that people call Ginny selfish all the time, she didn’t know Marcus was depressed until later and once she found out she was there for him immediately, Ginny cares about people she just has her own battles as well that she’s fighting ❤️
everyone calls her selfish cuz she is. her comforting marcus was probably the only time she’s actually been there for someone and that was after she tried to turn it around and make it about herself. it wasn’t till max had to literally spell it out for her that he’s depressed and it has nothing to do with her for her to realize it. everyone goes through shit but it’s about how u act and ginny acts selfish 99% of the time 🤷🏻♀️
@@netflixreviews5422 lmao Georgia may not be the best mother but she has done everything in her power to give those kids the best life possible even with the shitty cards she's been dealt. She’s had some of the crummiest obstacles thrown at her so i’d like to see u handle those situations any better. Lord knows ginny would crumble if she ever had to step foot in georgias shoes. Also Georgia doesn't make bad choices because she's being selfish unlike ginny. She makes bad choices because she feels it's the only thing that will keep her and her kids safe. Ginny doesn't deserve a loving mother like Georgia. She's an entitled little brat who has no clue what real hardship and struggle is like. I’d much rather have a person like Georgia stick by my side than Ginny and if u can’t see that i wish u the best of luck in life cuz ur gonna need it. Ppl like ginny will walk all over u because they only give a crap about themselves and their struggles. i’ve had a ginny in my life before and they ain’t fun
@@rykahchilds3024 fr but some ppl hating on the person who played ginny I mean like it's not a true story why would they hate the actor tho it's unfair and Georgia did everything when she knew it was bad that's how mothers can love u (some) eh my point is their hating on the actor and also the character everyone is fighting bcuz of this show so the one who played ginny is getting hate 2.
@@kateeeishereeee oh yeah fs! hating on the actor is just stupid lol. i’ve never understood how people can’t remove actors from their characters. the girl who played ginny is an amazing actress and she didn’t deserve any hate for her role. i just don’t like the character haha
Okay but he could have just been honest with her instead of lie. Smh the people coming at Ginny for this are the type of people who expect everyone to p*ssy foot around everyone and everything.
Is he obligated to hang out with her now? You’re behaving as if people don’t get to choose who they wanna hang out with. You people coming at Markus are the type of people to expect everyone to coddle you despite them having their own lives. Pussyfooting, by google definition, means to act in a cautious or noncommittal way, Markus told her he couldn’t hang out and he owes her no further explanation realistically. A narcissist on the other hand, by google definition, is “a person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves.”, which I think you should definitely get checked for with this thought process. By the way, what do you really think Ginny would have said if he told her? Because last time I checked she is the same person that uses her own mothers childhood trauma against her constantly.
@@Henny.777 I love that you had to write a book in response to my comment first of all. I never once said he is supposed to hang out with her. The point is that HE LIED. I have nothing else to say to you because you just brought up irrelevancy’s to what I said. Read my comment again now. Yes he doesn’t owe her an explanation, but does he need to lie? Absolutely not. Your comment is ludicrous
Two wrongs doesn’t equal right cowboy. And if you think that’s how it works I don’t know what world you’re living in. But I’m in the real one thank god. Good day and good riddance SJW
If you have depression it doesn't mean that you can break anyone heart or lie all the time. You just need to solve your problems and depression not to be like this.
he had it so severely. he needed to focus on himself, not anytime else. he couldn’t deal with that, in that horrible state of mind. it wasn’t his fault
@@schoolnx7820 I don't know how to explain. Being depressed can work in two ways! I was depressed one time. It was hard and even then, it was hard to explain how it works.
y’all overreacting talking about it’s not okay to lie. all he said was he had homework and bro was literally depressed. it doesn’t matter if it’s okay or not depression is a hard mf struggle. he’s not bound by ginny he does not have to hang out with her every time she asks. chill out. it’s not like he said max died and he had to go to her funeral. 😂
I don’t care what depression anxiety you have… if you choose not to communicate with me and choose to lie and deceive me cuz that seems easier than I have a hard time sympathizing with your flawed beliefs
@@kazimirawolf if you are a truth teller and you live in the real world according to Hennessy here you’re a narcissist. But if you defend liars and are a liar yourself and lie just to benefit yourself and not be honest with others you’re a Saint. Hennessy and probably a 12 year old next gen sensitive little child. We have to face it these are the people we have to share our world with sadly.
@@kazimirawolf “I don’t care what mental health issues you’re going through if you don’t talk to me I’m not gonna support you” knowing damn well most mental health issues cause people to isolate socially and NOT talk. they also had to add in the classic manipulative language, “if you CHOOSE to LIE and DECEIVE ME, I can’t sympathize with your FLAWED beliefs 🤬😤😠” that is a narcissistic, abusive sentence to the definition, if you think any of that is healthy you’re either also a narc or have been a victim of one and are really mentally unwell. Get checked.
@@Yandereebunniee Hennessy is a 20 year old woman who struggles with depression and anxiety along with other things including abuse from narcissists and has her entire life, so she knows that it’s not that easy to just say “hey sorry I’m just too fucking depressed” because people quite frankly just do not accept that, and she also knows that people who say “I don’t give a fuck if you are literally planning on committing suicide you need to talk to me or you’re a deceptive liar!!” are the most selfish, ignorant, miserable people there are. If Marcus straight up tried to off himself that night I still wouldn’t be surprised if Ginny were to get mad at him somehow.
Its normal bro! Without depression too. i sometimes stress about how i have to take time and do my homework but as soon as i get back home or start actually doing it, i get distracted or i sleep or not in the mood and eventually ends up doing nothing. That doesnt mean i lied. So chill
i get that she didn’t know about the depression, but instead she could’ve asked if he was okay or if something happened not made that rude ash comment being all like that🥴💁♀️
Ik everyone is saying he should have just told her..but all he was trying to do was protect her feeling and this is how he was trying. Not the best way but at least he was trying to do what he thought was right 😊
K personally, Ginny and Marcus both made mistakes here in the scene. But that's a normal human thing. They're both just teenagers. They're still learning from and in the relationship (if they have one currantly in this scene that is). Ginny needs to learn to be more empathetic and considerate to Marcus. And marcus needs to learn to be honest and open about his status, whether it's asked for or not. The whole point of being in a relationship is to keep each other safe and to uplift each other to become the better person they need to be and enjoy life. If you're not doing any of that or not helping each other, then there's no point in staying like fr leave ur gal/manz if ur not here for any of that for them. The best that Marcus and Ginny could have done was to apologize, forgive, and reflect and learn from everything that happened in the scene and apply what they've learnt to change for the better. But thats my opinion and I don't watch the series I've only seen yt clips. I have no hate towards any of these two. Anyway guys there's nth to fuss over everything's fine. Hope ya'll have a great day/night tho 😘💓 👇🏽
everyone that’s calling marcus out and saying that depression isn’t an excuse to lie💀 he’s fucking depressed, forgive me if im justifying him for not telling ginny, of all people, the truth. yall acting like it’s such an easy thing to say “oh hey ginny btw i have depression lol”. when he broke up with her, they showed both perspectives of the break up and how each dealt with it and when they showed ginny’s first, she OBVIOUSLY made it about her and thought she was the problem until max literally had to spell it out for her and tell her it wasn’t her, he’s just dealing with depression and had episodes once in a while and was on meds
It wasn’t an excuse it was a lie. He could have just said “sorry babe I’m not feeling up to it tonight”. Or something along those lines. Can’t wait for little blue boy schoolnx7820 to reply “but you don’t know how depressing works waaaaaaa, mommy I can’t stand that a person on the internet is about the truth instead of lies, I’m so hurt that there is a person on the internet who sees through peoples bullsh*t and doesn’t excuse their behavior”. People (especially half the ones in these comments defending Markus) who enable the behavior of lying make it acceptable as a whole. Even if that’s not directly your intentions you are being an enabler to lying behavior.
@@Yandereebunniee Abeg y are u even mentioning me u useless beg I no sabi u ode go heal or sum also I hope you realise everybody lies regardless so this holier than though act u wanna put on is hilarious however keep thinking you're better that everybody you're gonna be in for a shock mumu at the end of the day he did what he did go cope both of them were mentally struggling and both of them "lied" now go enable ur self to a long rest bc ur chatting nonsense like who be this mumu child abeg don't call on my name
Why are we assuming he’s lying? As someone with executive dysfunction I know what it feels like to commit to doing project and then you get nothing done and you feel horrible about it. He could have been intending to do it.
lemme say this. ginny should of realized he had depression by how quiet, exhausted, and blunt he has been. people with depression make excuses to be alone because they are tired
I respect some of yalls opinions but ginny had it rlly freaking hard like chill on the roasts ,and we all know marcus is damaged or sum but its not like ginny always makes it abt herself ,and she only talks abt her life when marcus is finished , LIKE CHILL YALL
...did he lie tho? He had an English paper to write which is what he was supposed to do, and just didn't get around to it like he wanted to do and instead procrastinated... that's what I would have assumed. Why is it "he lied"?
@@Yandereebunniee he might not have planned procrastinating it. He could have wanted to write it, then when it came down to it didn't have the energy to. Doesn't make it a lie
@@sauce-note6367 I’m saying though that if he ended up procrastinating the homework and not have called or texted Ginny and been like “hey plans changed wanna come over?” Or maybe texted her and said “I’m having a hard time with this paper do you want to help me?”. He could have said something anything. Without spilling the beans of his depression. And if that was the case and he didn’t do the homework because he procrastinated he didn’t say anything to Ginny so he kinda set himself up to look like a liar
@@Yandereebunniee I mean if he didn't have the energy to either start on or finish his homework who is to say he had the energy to hang out with her? He shouldn't have to hang out with her just to prove he isn't lying, and he also shouldn't have to hang out with her if he isn't in a good place to. I feel like, there should be some semblance of trust and not being able to finish a homework assignment isn't a good reason to just straight up believe someone is lying. The fact that he didn't finish it in no way says he didn't work on it. Which I think can bring up a secondary point too! She doesn't actually know what he did instead, I believe we don't either! Because it's a show we can infer he didn't do it and that it has to do with a plot point- for her though she isn't self aware of the while plot point thing. He may have been too depressed to start or too depressed to finish, but he also could have just had a difficult time doing it. Never started a homework assignment but it was hard or you couldn't think of a way to do something so it took you too long? Even currently I have an assignment I'm actively working on but can't turn in on time.
@@sauce-note6367 I’m not saying that I’m just making one point. But I feel he could have again maybe messaged her and said “hey I’m having a hard time getting this homework done. Maybe wanna help me?” Or called her and said that. By not saying something or anything he sat himself up to look like he was lying
