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Marie Huot - The RADICAL Pioneer of French Antinatalism

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Marie Huot (1846 - 1930) was a French feminist, animal rights activist and an early antinatalist. In this video I look into Marie's antinatalist beliefs and uncover an antinatalist lecture she gave in 1892 that caused a large media reaction.
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~TIMESTAMPS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
00:00 - Intro
01:00 - Marie Huot
01:54 - Disclaimers
03:40 - Neo-Malthusianism
08:42 - Antinatalism
11:13 - Antinatalist Lecture (+ Special Announcement)
20:13 - Henry Huot
21:46 - Media Response to Lecture
25:45 - Neo-Malthusian Influence in France
28:14 - Animal Rights
34:52 - Outro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~LINKS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
General Literature
• Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Huot
• Marie Huot: Libertaire, néomalthusienne, antispéciste, théosophe… (Sylvain Wagnon): www.amazon.fr/Marie-Huot-Libe...
• A L’um la Science: de Marie Huot À Eurostim (Podcast): www.umontpellier.fr/articles/...
• Early Antinatalist Marie Huot [1846 - 1930] (Karim Akerma): antinatalismblog.wordpress.co...
• From Kurnig to Marie Huot (Karim Akerma): antinatalismblog.wordpress.co...
Mentioned Works
• Le missel de Notre-Dame des Solitudes (Marie Huot): gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt...
• Impeding the Birth Control Movement Theories and Activities in France and the United States (1873-1940) (Fatma Ramdani): journals.openedition.org/itin...
• Ni Ménagères, Ni Courtisanes: les Femmes de Lettres dans la Presse Anarchiste Française (1885-1905) (Marie-Pier Tardif): archipel.uqam.ca/15188/1/D405...
• The Fury Archives: Female Citizenship, Human Rights, and the International Avant-Gardes (Jill Richards): s3.amazonaws.com/pozen/system...
• la Grève des Ventres (Fernand Kolney): laporteouverte.me/2017/03/13/...
• Belly Strike Neo-Malthusian Propaganda & the Drop in French Birth Rates, 19-20th Century (Francis Ronsin): www.amazon.co.uk/grève-ventre...
• Birthstrike Movement: birthstrikemovement.org
• Nouvelle Appréciation de l'Instinct Sexuel / Philosophie Pratique (1896): archive.org/details/liszt-3380
• Der Neo-Nihilismus. Anti-Militarismus - Sexualleben (Ende der Menschheit.) (1901): archive.org/details/kurnig1/m...
• Ni un monstre ni une folle: Marie Huot (Patrick Besnier & Julien Schuh): hal.science/hal-01900699/docu...
• La joie de vivre (Émile Zola): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_joie...
• Le mal de vivre (Marie Huot): tpsalomonreinach.mom.fr/Reina...
Kurnig Discussion: • Kurnig - The First Mod...
• Correspondence to Louis Pasteur (confirms son's age): gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv...
• Negative Utilitarianism (Roderick N. Smart): www.scribd.com/document/66192...
• Le Néo-Malthusisme: Est-il Moral?: gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt...
• Libelle anti procréateur de Kurnig (1897): www.biusante.parisdescartes.f...
• Letter to Senator regarding neo-Malthusianism: gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt...
Continued in the pinned comment.
Outro Music // The Last Time - Kayou. // Provided by ‪@LofiGirl‬

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@LawrenceAnton 3 месяца назад

Notes since publishing: • Marie Huot was cremated in Père-Lachaise Cemetry, Paris. More information: traditionalistblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/date-of-death-of-marie-huot_15.html?m=1 • This document seems to suggest that there are multiple versions of Jacques Maheu's article containing an interview with Marie: www.bibliorare.com/wp-content/uploads/catalogue/pdf/cat-lib-scriptorial-juin2012.pdf Access to the handwritten version of his article/interview may also be available: www.bibliorare.com/ - Marie Huot used a male pseudonym for a while: Édouard Mill. There are a couple articles mostly from 1883-1885 that refer to her by this name. Interestingly, they call her Madame Édouard Mill and use she/her pronouns, she gave some lectures in the name of La Ligue contre la vivisection under that name. Links continues: Archive Newspaper Articles [1892 unless stated otherwise] • Le Gaulois, May 23 [1883]: gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k524644b/f1.item • Le Temps, Apr 15 [1890]: gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k232511x/f3.item • Le Figaro, Sept 29 (announcement of lecture): gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k282305p/f1.image.r=huot • Le Gaulois, Oct 3: gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5281246/f3.item.r=huot • Le Temps, Oct 4: gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k233466h/f3.image.r=huot • L’Univers, Oct 4: gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k707842z/f3.item.r=huot • Gil Blas, Oct 4: www.retronews.fr/journal/gil-blas/4-octobre-1892/121/265321/3 • La Presse, Oct 4: www.retronews.fr/journal/la-presse/4-octobre-1892/126/562833/1? • Le Parisien, Oct 5: www.retronews.fr/journal/le-parisien/5-octobre-1892/1161/2912237/1 • La Silhouette, Oct 16: gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bd6t57226959/f3.item.r=huot • La Science française, Oct 27 (Jacques Maheu interview) : gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k116370d/f134.image.r=huot • La semaine vétérinaire, Oct 9: gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5503381m/f5.image.r=huot • Le Grelot, Oct 30: gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bd6t5143847g/f3.item • Mercure de France, Nov 1, p. 93-94: www.retronews.fr/journal/mercure-de-france/01-novembre-1892/118/2019849/93 • LËcole émancipée, Jun 17 [1911] (letter she signed): gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k67520338/f6.item Animal Rights Works Mentioned • The Animal Rights Struggle: An Essay in Historical Sociology (Christophe Traïni): www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt1jd94gh.10?seq=5 • Le droit des animaux (Marie Huot): www.cahiers-antispecistes.org/le-droit-des-animaux/

@TempehLiberation 3 месяца назад

Amazing individual - thanks Lawrence, I always appreciate your endeavors to shed light on the history of antinatalism/rejectionism. Helps me feel not so alone 😁

@LawrenceAnton 3 месяца назад

Cheers Tempeh! Big thanks to the people that helped me on this one (mentioned in the description) it wouldn’t have been possible without them!

@lloydgush 3 месяца назад

You are all monstrous.

@deanrao4805 3 месяца назад

Ditto from me. Amazing to find someone expressing these view so coherently--and so well documented--that long ago. And amazing that I've never come across her name before.

@Billy-rr7re 3 месяца назад

the default state is misfortune, pain, suffering. all roads lead to that state and it can happen anytime without warning too. we are all headed that way and, the more you live, the worse it gets.

@lovethyneibor22736 3 месяца назад

@johnstephen399 3 месяца назад

Brave woman. To do this in late 1800s is a level of badassery I can't even imagine.

@LawrenceAnton 3 месяца назад

She was a top G

@BovineBluestocking 3 месяца назад

As a feminist, Marie Huot clearly understood the importance of pockets. I like the fact that she used hers to carry a stash of whistles to a bullfight. You’ve been spoiling us with the recent videos on the history of antinatalism. I appreciate the time and effort that goes into making them and hope there may be more to come.

@LawrenceAnton 3 месяца назад

Pockets will fuel the revolution 🔥😂

@lloydgush 3 месяца назад

Monsters, the lot of you!

@xenocrates2559 3 месяца назад

Fascinating video. Thanks for taking the time to put all of this together.

@LawrenceAnton 3 месяца назад

All the thanks should go to those that helped!

@tofudog4u 3 месяца назад

Thank you for this incredibly informative video! I really enjoyed hearing about Marie Huot! Very inspirational

@LawrenceAnton 3 месяца назад

She was super interesting to look in to! Can’t wait to start work on the next video!

@Masilya111 3 месяца назад

Great job Lawrence and all involved. It's a fascinating profile

@LawrenceAnton 3 месяца назад

Cheers Masilya

@marcantinatalist4186 3 месяца назад

Wow what an incredible woman , thank you so much for bringing her to the spotlight .

@p2p2p2p2p2p 2 месяца назад

this is an incredible person, it makes me so happy that someone like this existed back then

@antinatalope 3 месяца назад

Very cool talk, Lawrence. I'm going to try to find the English translation of the book. Hard to hear about the cats, though. That does not make me happy.

@LawrenceAnton 3 месяца назад

Linked in the description

@Mackerel.Lips-the_Drunkard 3 месяца назад

Thank you for the late trigger warning.

@Syllkort 3 месяца назад

Love the video, thanks so much for making it, I was so curious about Marie after the discussion you had about Kurnig where you mentioned her. After this video I can safely say that I just love her. She's so incredibly inspiring and she embodies the flame that I seek for justice movements like veganism and antinatalism. It breaks my heart to imagine all the bullshit people inflicted upon her for advocating for these amazing values, which were so groundbreaking and unique for her time. I truly wish I could be there to support her. When it comes to the more questionable reported cases of her killing animals: I can't imagine that someone as passionate as this about prevention and alleviation of suffering of all sentient beings would do something like that *if there wasn't a critically important and justifiable reason to do so*. It's important to remember that back then anesthetics didn't exist, and if an animal was going through terminal excruciating suffering, people at the time who wished to spare those animals didn't have the emotional privilege of ending their suffering painlessly. With all the information and insight about her personality even just from this video, I'm convinced that she would have never killed an animal if she didn't 100% believe it was in their best interest, and I think that that makes her even more impressive and admirable. I think she would have taken joy in knowing that today people celebrate her death anniversary rather than her birthday. Rest in peace, you magnificent legend. ❤

@willcwhite 3 месяца назад

Excellent work, and thanks for all the links!

@LawrenceAnton 3 месяца назад

Glad you find it useful legend!

@paulheinrichdietrich9518 3 месяца назад

Great find. You're doing a wonderful job.

@LawrenceAnton 3 месяца назад

All thanks to those who supported

@LinuxUser00 3 месяца назад

Marie Huot, a Light in a sea of Darkness!

@colinmerl597 3 месяца назад

Wow, what an impressive personality! Thank you for the research Lawrence!

@LawrenceAnton 3 месяца назад

She’s a very interesting character!

@juliencasualties2884 3 месяца назад

I know that Marie Huot influenced many French anarchists of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, whether for veganism, feminism and for birth prevention. Many of his tendencies were expressed in the weekly newspaper "L'anarchie" run by Albert Libertad from where I believe that most of the articles were never translated into English and remained in French. Unfortunately it remained a marginal circle which completely disappeared after the First World War. At the time this was not used under the term antinatalism but rather under the term neo-Malthusianism which also mixed the eugenicists although neo-Malthusianism had largely separated itself from Malthus in favor of limited or abolish births regardless of socio economical status and genes. However, his choices of non-procreation were more based on the question of hygiene, freedom and the challenge to patriarchy rather than philosophical opinions in relation to suffering or even consent. I would therefore consider all of this as proto-antinatalism rather than truly established antinatalism.

@ohelno 3 месяца назад

Wow! Bravo

@LawrenceAnton 3 месяца назад

🔥

@jenruaxventers8955 3 месяца назад

Inspiring stuff. Who knew the 19th century had its own Marla Singer?

@vaibhav0055 3 месяца назад

Amazing video! Great research and oration.

@LawrenceAnton 3 месяца назад

Cheers Vai

@lloydgush 3 месяца назад

I'm saving this. For future use.

@notwelcome7795 3 месяца назад

wow

@Bleeding_moderate. 3 месяца назад

U should make a video on emil cioran

@lovethyneibor22736 3 месяца назад

who is he?

@tad4663 3 месяца назад

He has one already

@LinuxUser00 3 месяца назад

@@lovethyneibor22736 Aphorist and essayist from Romania but escaped to France to hide from his fanatical flirtation with the Iron Guard. Wrote about the absurdity of life but from a pessimistic view as opposed to Camus, time, the futility of ideas, history from a Spenglerian lens, christian mystics, catharism, buddhism, Dostoevsky, Bach and insomnia.

@LeHobbesien131 3 месяца назад

Good video as always, brother

@LouisGedo 3 месяца назад

👋

@EliasRykart 3 месяца назад

I just googled the Skoptsy cult💀

@Billy-rr7re 3 месяца назад

why would people put a person in a place where you constantly need to be crossing your fingers to not lose your job or get into an accident or any of all the bad things that can happen to you. a place where you need to constantly be begging to your imaginary all powerful friend to protect you from all the misfortune that can fall on you because, you know, this is such a wonderful paradise that you need an all powerful friend to protect you from harm.a place where people wear all kind of amulets to feel protected from evil and misfortune. a place where you are supposed to say you are blessed because you won the cosmic lottery and are not suffering from some serious illness or pain, or you were not born in a shit hole and are not eating garbage, or you do not need to work as a little child in order to have some crumbles to eat. if you do all of the things mentioned above, that means you acknowledge this is not a good place to be but, you say people need to be grateful for this?. you MUST be grateful for this? how does that make sense and why would you subject another person, a person you say you love, to this place?. people love to say they were blessed and that they are grateful for what they have and grateful to be here, but what about those that were not blessed? what about them? F them? tough luck? that is life? how do you justify that they must bear all kind of pains and suffering but, who cares right? you were blessed and that is all that matters. why the stupid god blesses some but not others? and why are religious and non religious people ok with others not being blessed?. and you do not even know how it will unfold for those you created and you say you love. you do not know if your kids will be "blessed" . it is a literal gamble for them, if it goes wrong, i guess, they can simply tell them, tough luck or, that is life. that shows how much you love them, right?. another thing that is irrational is that, according to religious and non religious people, you must always be grateful for being forcibly thrust into this place. does not matter if you were blessed or not, does not matter if you eat garbage or not, pain or no pain, you must always be grateful for being thrown in this place

@Billy-rr7re 3 месяца назад

humans have been farming humans since the beginning of time. farming humans for their own amusement, their own benefit and to satisfy their wants. but all is ok, since this is clearly a wonderful paradise right?

@BA11YO 3 месяца назад

Based and Red Pilled

@lovethyneibor22736 3 месяца назад

16:16 what is he drinking?

@TheFettuck 3 месяца назад

It looks like tea, which he probably didn't grow himself. Antinatalists shouldn't rely on other people to grow crops!

@lovethyneibor22736 3 месяца назад

@@TheFettuck why?

@paulheinrichdietrich9518 3 месяца назад

@@TheFettuck Why not?

@TheFettuck 3 месяца назад

It would be alright if one of the three guys did grow the tea plants themselves and shared their leaves with the two other guys.

@paulheinrichdietrich9518 3 месяца назад

@@TheFettuck I fail to see the harm in drinking tee.

@LouisGedo 3 месяца назад

Apparently Huot is also an efilist?

@WackyConundrum 3 месяца назад

No, she's not. There was no efilist ideology/pseudophilosophy back then.

@LouisGedo 3 месяца назад

@@WackyConundrum There didn't have to be some official establishment of an established philosophy and terminology for her to hold views aligned with efilism

@WackyConundrum 3 месяца назад

@@LouisGedo It's due to the _fact_ that efilism is just a glued Frankenstein of already existing views, only painted with allegories and rhetoric. But just because someone has/had a view X, doesn't mean that they were an efilist - a follower of the efilist ideology.

@LouisGedo 3 месяца назад

@WackyConundrum No, efilism as an official ideology need not even exist in order for someone to be aligned with efilism ideology. So yes, she was apparently was an efilist. 👍 👍 👍

@lesknight52 3 месяца назад

@@LouisGedo I agree. The idea that the elimination of all life is the only sure way to prevent suffering could have been expressed before Gary gave it a name. One line could be taken to mean efilism, but it's a translation and we can't be sure what "world" and "life" mean as she used it in French. "Obviously, the world will come to an end sooner or later, and I for one have no problem with that. I do not even mind glimpsing into the mists of eternity and seeing the earth finally purged of its human microbes - left to the wild flora and fauna, awaiting the blessed day when it is stripped of this last instance of life."

@lucioh1575 3 месяца назад

I’m in love.

@LawrenceAnton 3 месяца назад

Can’t wait to see you in your wedding dress 😂

@lucioh1575 3 месяца назад

@@LawrenceAnton I shared her text with fellow french vegans, they loved it.

@LawrenceAnton 3 месяца назад

@@lucioh1575 Amazing! Hopefully she'll have a resurgence in popularity!

@dio69666 3 месяца назад

Wow. She's cool

@vDuzz 3 месяца назад

What a badass lady. Thanks for teaching me about her.

@LawrenceAnton 3 месяца назад

🔥🔥

@Billy-rr7re 3 месяца назад

18:31 they are murderers because as you recently said in one video, someone will die as a result of your actions. the action being procreation.

@Billy-rr7re 3 месяца назад

so she was a murderer too

@lovethyneibor22736 3 месяца назад

question for all: how are you today?

@czmychal 3 месяца назад

The fact that she had a son, and they maintained good relations, makes her a hypocrite

@TheEternalClown 3 месяца назад

Perhaps she had a son before she came to such strong beliefs

@czmychal 3 месяца назад

@@TheEternalClown In fact it was said that she had 22-23 years old when that happened. But it's no less weird... Imaging to hold and propagade such worldview when you have supportive children, or have a mother who does that. Perchance most of her work was some traumatic reaction to the fact she was used and thrown to raise a kid, as some psychoanalytic could state.