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This episode looks at the web belts and the various accoutrements that come with it for the Marines on the battleship and off.
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@M167A1
@M167A1 5 месяцев назад
Alice, the most humped name in military equipment. 😊
@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 5 месяцев назад
Oh I;ve seen her Wonder Land,
@imperfectlump6070
@imperfectlump6070 5 месяцев назад
She's a heavy beast.
@aaronkcmo
@aaronkcmo 5 месяцев назад
until MOLLE came around
@morganmckenzie1303
@morganmckenzie1303 5 месяцев назад
There's a Jody joke in there.
@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 5 месяцев назад
@@morganmckenzie1303 brain has lag but yes
@RayFromTexas1
@RayFromTexas1 5 месяцев назад
ALICE (All-purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment), MOLLE (MOdular Lightweight Load-carrying Equipment)
@coniow
@coniow 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for that. Be helpful if Ryan pinned this to the top!
@Sqwaush
@Sqwaush 5 месяцев назад
Thank you Ray
@davidburroughs2244
@davidburroughs2244 5 месяцев назад
Thought the L stood for liquer...
@CAP198462
@CAP198462 5 месяцев назад
K, I remember being told ALICE stood for Army Light Infantry Carrying Equipment. The web gear was okay, but the ALICE pack is another story.
@tylerromero
@tylerromero 5 месяцев назад
P.A.S.T.G - Personnel Armor System for Ground Troops
@briangarvey6895
@briangarvey6895 5 месяцев назад
When I joined the Army in 2003 we were still issuing 99% of this stuff. The ear-pro box is still the same, I got handed load-bearing gear, and the flashlight was the same model. In Iraq, we still used so much of the same gear. Only the body armor had upgraded. In 2005, we had a national guard company from Pennsylvania attached to my battalion, and they had the new ACU's. We were all jealous, but they said not to be because the ACUs were pretty bad. We still had a lot of guys who went to the on base Iraqi tailor and had their uniforms modified to remove the lower pockets of our DCU's and move them upper and angle them like more modern gear.
@klsc8510
@klsc8510 5 месяцев назад
I was a MI Army National Guardsman from 2000-2009. When in Iraq in 2003-04, we had the DCUs. We started with the Vietnam flak jackets for "armor". Half way through our tour, we were issued the Interceptor vests. After Iraq, we were issued the ACUs. I agree they were not the best as the fabric would not breathe. The Velcro for the pockets was not liked either. The only good was the location of the pockets. They should have used the fabric from the DCUs with the new pattern. I still wear my DCUs for Veteran's Day for my hometown ceremonies. I started this when I was on leave from Iraq in 2003. I do it today to honor those serving that are still in harms ways.
@crazyeyez1502
@crazyeyez1502 5 месяцев назад
Same here. Went to basic in 2000, and had same stuff up until was time to get ready to go to Iraq.
@SteveJ2824
@SteveJ2824 5 месяцев назад
@@klsc8510 I believe that the ACU material was supposed to be more fire resistant, - I served 1992-98, we had BDU's, (Battle Dress Uniform) woodland cammo pattern, the worked ok
@jasondiaz8431
@jasondiaz8431 5 месяцев назад
Never understood the movement of the pockets. The only thing I gave ever seen in the pockets was a pack of cigarettes. In 23 years in service i never stored anything in my pockets except my pants for my cover and my fron pants pocket for my wallet. Everything went in my alice or molle gear unless i wanted to be in pain on a foot march.
@gabrielpalombo4384
@gabrielpalombo4384 5 месяцев назад
If you join the brazillian regular army today, you will use 99% of this stuff, and with US marked on it. 😂😂😂
@jastrapper190
@jastrapper190 5 месяцев назад
The Large Alice rucksack is still the finest military rucksack that was ever issued. In Iraq in 2004 I was issued all sorts of crap. From Alice to MOLEE AND THEN FILBE AND THEN ILBIE… But even given all the new systems I still deployed by my choice with an ALICE. My vehicle once hit a landmine with our LAV and my pack was shackled on the left from headlight cluster… a very “privileged location on an LAV because the rucks in the back get absolutely coated (with several inches sometimes after a day of hard driving through the desert) with what we called “moon dust”. It go into everything. When you unrolled your isomat to sleep at night it was like the dirty kid from Charlie Brown. A cloud of moon dust in your sleeping bag and everywhere imaginable. So having the left front headlight cluster to shackle a pack to in an LAR BN it’s to best spot… except when you hit a landmine. Then everything you own is blowing int the desert winds looking like Swiss cheese. I still have that Ruck Sack. If you hold it up to the light it looks like Swiss cheese. What did the most damage believe it or not wasn’t even mine shrapnel but rocks and dirt thrown at incredible speed by the explosives. But that ALICE ruck I could have patched and sewn for a few hours and made serviceable again. That ALICE ruck was far superiour to every other ruck. It was cheap and simple and fits the 99th percentile. It was light and had just enough in the way of pockets without being ridiculous like the MOLEE or FILBE. I also prefered the Alice magazine pouches for much the same reason. They were just an amazing design. I always carried four frags and six magazine as an infantryman along with a mag in the weapon and sometimes double mags taped together in the weapon for a total of eight.
@jastrapper190
@jastrapper190 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for making me repost this eight times youtube… real good job protecting me and society from that evil evil free speech and expression. Which we should have codified by law as a citizens right to online freedom of speech and expression in exactly the same way as when I express myself in the town square. F youtube and their rules. Let’s put the hgenius yt executives rules up against Congressional legislation and see who wins. The Citizen or the do nothing good yt executives.
@bryanknight1056
@bryanknight1056 5 месяцев назад
There's a reason that even in the most high speed of units you'll still see the odd MALICE pack mixed in with the super expensive mystery ranch stuff
@dalevodden1359
@dalevodden1359 5 месяцев назад
Well you know how stupid the military can get with gear they come out with the most stupid crap they can dream of for you to carry in the field when the Alice equipment was the best they had over this other crap they came up with I have a large Alice ruck pack and will be using it when I hike the Appalachian trail the gear I used in the Army was all Alice T.A. 50 gare Korean War Ww-2 but mostly Alice loved it the Alice in my opinion should still be in use though out the military to day . Thank you for your service and God Bless
@calebdoner
@calebdoner 5 месяцев назад
This is literally the "biggest gun" channel on RU-vid. :)
@GM4ThePeople
@GM4ThePeople 5 месяцев назад
Littorally. o/
@spierig4488
@spierig4488 5 месяцев назад
that gear mostly stayed in supply, flak jackets and helmets were staged in the berthing spaces. in Beruit we wore Helmets and flak jackets while on 50cal posts. Web belts and holsters for roving guards cpl and Sgt of the guard.. I can forward some pics of the det 84-86
@cruisinguy6024
@cruisinguy6024 5 месяцев назад
Would love to hear what a typical day was like for the Marines while underway
@johnnunn8688
@johnnunn8688 5 месяцев назад
As he ⬆️ said.
@dankehl4566
@dankehl4566 5 месяцев назад
@@cruisinguy6024 I'm going to take a guess, eat, sleep and clean. :-)
@boondocker7964
@boondocker7964 5 месяцев назад
On the USS Guam, LPH, Carib cruise '67-'68, we did not have a lot of "training time", no place to train, just career talks, by lifers, not a whole hell of a lot of anything more than chow and finding some place to relax at.@@cruisinguy6024
@Hibernicus1968
@Hibernicus1968 5 месяцев назад
I was issued the same web gear in the army in the mid-90s. One thing about the grenade pouches though -- we were trained _always_ to seat the grenade with the spoon _inside_ the pouch, up against the body of the mag pouch. That way, if both the pull ring and the retaining clip snagged on anything and got pulled off (admittedly unlikely they'd both go, but still...), the spoon doesn't fly off and leave you with five seconds to live.
@carlanderson7618
@carlanderson7618 5 месяцев назад
Way back when the earth was young and I joined the USMC we were issued ALICE packs etc. but were still required to know the various configurations for the pack system it replaced from the Guidebook for Marines - Light Marching Pack, Marching Pack, Field Marching Pack, Transport Pack and Field Transport Pack.
@HootOwl513
@HootOwl513 5 месяцев назад
I had to lug all that historic M-42 Happy Horseshit in Boot, Brother. You didn't miss nothing. Ergonomics wasn't a word in 1942. Semper Fi.
@boondocker7964
@boondocker7964 5 месяцев назад
782 gear.
@carlanderson7618
@carlanderson7618 5 месяцев назад
@@boondocker7964 Do they still call it that?
@boondocker7964
@boondocker7964 5 месяцев назад
Dunno, I got out in '69. That's what we called all that web gear.@@carlanderson7618
@frankgellenthin3733
@frankgellenthin3733 5 месяцев назад
The Rastafarian helmet trick is just the three rear flaps of the cloth helmet cover itself. Once the helmet and inner shell is seperated you just leave the rear flaps hanging and tuck the front flaps betwenn the helmet and shell. Excellent video! Semper Fi!
@jastrapper190
@jastrapper190 5 месяцев назад
In addition to the cup.. you would have a canteen cup stove.. it’s a piece of metal that slides over the cup and allows the easy use of hexamine or some other form of heat tabs or wood or paper. Also most infantrymen I knew loved the canteen cup but they only carried one. And you did everything in that cup. You would have it for coffee. For shaving and washing… all in the same cup. It was also critical in the extreme cold. You can take a canteen that is frozen solid and heat up a small amount of boiling or near boiling water and dump it in the frozen canteen and keep repeating the process until you had a liquid filled canteen. It might take a dozen “back and forth” of heating and pouring but it eventually will completely thaw. It was the only way to quickly thaw out a frozen canteen other than body heat. Just some additional things I personally did and I know a lot of other marines did. In the first aid kit was iodine tablets and in one canteen pouch you would keep this water purification. Typically in the other little pouch I carried waterproof match’s and a “speed loader” which is a little piece of metal that allows rapid “charging” or an empty magazine with a stripper clip of 10 rounds (as you will find when getting resupplied with ammo). Three quick presses and your empty magazine is full of 30 (or 29 rounds once one is chambered in the weapon.
@tankman7711
@tankman7711 5 месяцев назад
Oh, mixture of gear was USMC wide. In boot camp at P.I in 1984 we were still issued woodland cammies but an OD green cover and that was Corps wide. After Active duty, went Reserves but unit was on an Army post & we had trouble getting Marine specific headgear ( Engineer cover) so...some had to wear that nasty Army pogue looking woodland BDU cover....our company photo is a mixture of Marine covers and Army covers....HQ Marine Corps accepted it and said ok, its a supply issue, do what you gotta do!
@bobwalsh2112
@bobwalsh2112 5 месяцев назад
I was in PI the summer of 1983 and were were issued woodland cammies and a woodland cover, No OD. I qualified with the M16A1. When I went to the fleet we had Alice packs and 782 gear
@SuperYooper11
@SuperYooper11 5 месяцев назад
The plastic box for the First Aid kit made a great cigarette pack holder. It always kept my cowboy killers dry and uncrushed.
@TheGhost-xj8fu
@TheGhost-xj8fu 5 месяцев назад
As a kid/teen I had some of the mag pouches and the flash light, the belt and a grenade vest that i would run around in that we had gotten at an army surplus store. Had a woodland camo jacket too, i should still have it around here somewhere.
@m35benvids87
@m35benvids87 5 месяцев назад
You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurants
@deanieedwards8117
@deanieedwards8117 5 месяцев назад
Except Alice..
@tcpratt1660
@tcpratt1660 5 месяцев назад
Alice doesn't live here anymore. (After a full main battery salvo from the Black Dragon, nobody does!)
@kolt4d559
@kolt4d559 5 месяцев назад
Alice? Who the hell is Alice?!?!
@Echo_Reyes
@Echo_Reyes 5 месяцев назад
Many veterans and military enthusiast will be taking notes on the set up of the Alice pack shown in this video
@eugenegarrett78
@eugenegarrett78 5 месяцев назад
If they are veterans they don’t need edeucated especially marines
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 5 месяцев назад
Joined the Army, late 90's, and was issued Alice gear and used it up through ~2006.
@paulbarthol8372
@paulbarthol8372 5 месяцев назад
The Marines don't issue uniforms. The individual Marines have to buy them. In the three years I was in the Green Weenie, I was required to buy five different sets of uniforms. That didn't include dress blues, which were optional in the real marines. khakis, OD green utilities, wool class A, Camos. Wool/poly class A. Never wore the Khakis, they were just clearing out their old stores. Only wore class A reporting to units and parades/inspections. Just stuff to lug around until the next whimsical uniform change. $3.65 a month uniform allowance to cover laundry, dry cleaning and new uniforms. The camos cost something like $20 a set.
@michaelh.3555
@michaelh.3555 5 месяцев назад
I remember paying $20 for cami trouser or blouse. Wore summer service alphas for the Platoon picture and Charlie's on graduation day (17Jul81) and in Hong Kong on liberty. The rest of my grunt days were poplin then woodland camis (woodlands suck).
@michaelh.3555
@michaelh.3555 5 месяцев назад
I still have a very unserviceable poplin utility cover from boot camp, but left all other uniforms, including my blues, at the curb one day.
@user-bo4zf9hu4o
@user-bo4zf9hu4o 5 месяцев назад
Your initial issue in Boot Camp were issued to you. A recruit is given an initial uniform allowance (never see it and it is recorded as a "credit and debt") That issue contained all required uniforms and accoutrements (belts, buckles, EGAs, skivvies, boots, and shoes). Reason why the Marine was required to have and keep, (in serviceable condition) the initial issue at all times. And, if you still had obligated service time (after initial AD), you were required to keep that initial issue until expiration of OST. The Marine was required to purchase any needed replacement(s) for those issued uniforms and etc., as required. Officers are required to purchase their uniforms (and may receive a stipend to offset the costs). USMC .1978-1998
@leftyo9589
@leftyo9589 5 месяцев назад
in the Navy, they issued it to you, but they also charged you for it!@@user-bo4zf9hu4o
@NIGHTSTALKER0069
@NIGHTSTALKER0069 5 месяцев назад
I can’t remember what all the colors are for. You could do command and signal. However, when I was in we blue was used by doc so he could see the blood and still have some type of light discipline
@mikhailkalashnikov4599
@mikhailkalashnikov4599 5 месяцев назад
The ALICE equipment issue in the 80's (when I served) was pretty much exactly what you showed, although except as a REACT force on board ship, most of that would have not been practicle aboard ship for typical sea service/guard duty (as on board a battleship). I think you would find a war belt w/sidearm as typical for this duty. For instance, a compass, camo netting on helmet, rifle, etc., wouldn't serve much of a function on ship duty. Of course this would all be available in the armory/berthing area if a boarding threat existed. Now if you look at the Marines deployed as part of a BLT/MAU, these guys obviously would be fully equipped for an amphib operation going ashore. Sea service for a Marine grunt was both fascinating and deplorable if that makes any sense. I really enjoy your videos, thanks.
@tomconway8881
@tomconway8881 5 месяцев назад
Good video. Thanks
@gregp9350
@gregp9350 5 месяцев назад
Ah, sweet memories, from the mid to late 80's, then early 90's. Used this 782 gear all the time. Only difference we had the kevlar helmets. Weren't issued the flashlights, bought mine. The earplugs were aquired as well, not issued as I recall. Had the cats eyes band for the helmet. Just got rid of most , including older Vietnam style vest & gas mask, with glasses insert a few years ago, moving / fire etc. Life gets in the way sometimes. Good trip down memory lane. Thanks.
@m35benvids87
@m35benvids87 5 месяцев назад
Thanks and have a great one
@zoopercoolguy
@zoopercoolguy 5 месяцев назад
The butt pack was typically used with the ALICE harness so that the backpack could rest on it. This transferred more of the backpack's weight from the soldier/marine's shoulders to their hips.
@nigelterry9299
@nigelterry9299 5 месяцев назад
More please, Ryan!!!
@jacoballen3267
@jacoballen3267 5 месяцев назад
At Parris Island back in 2002-03 I was issued the very same gear, with the exception of the K-pot. The golden standard 1970’s 80’s and 90’s deuce gear BUT we just started wearing the digital MARPAT camouflage uniforms.
@bikecommuter24
@bikecommuter24 5 месяцев назад
I was a Air Force Combat Arms Training and Maintenance Instructor for three years before I retired, prior to that was a Airrcaft Mechanic I cross trained during the big personnel shift during the early 90's anyhow I wore a web belt during our Range sessions I had one of those butt packs on my belt, LOL I used it to keep snacks for those long range days, usually candy bars, paydays and whatcamacallit bars. my belt was for my M9 pistol and spare magazine pouch, we already had big first aid kits and water containers available. I wonder if my Dad wore any of this type of gear he served 49-53, he was an Engineman- Fireman he served on three ships that transported troops.
@mikezimmermann89
@mikezimmermann89 5 месяцев назад
I first saw ALICE gear in 1976. We were told it was new, New, NEW at that time.
@earlcollinsworth
@earlcollinsworth 5 месяцев назад
Great video! Thank you sir! Please break out some more of that gear and educate us!
@motomuto3313
@motomuto3313 5 месяцев назад
The light was always mounted to the non firing side. I still have my setup from when I was in CAP. It sits in the closet collecting dust and cat hair. I do still get milage out of the rucksack.
@anonymousm9113
@anonymousm9113 5 месяцев назад
We were issued the ALICE LC-2 kit in Army Infantry training back in '01. The 101st ABN, being one of the priority units, issued MOLLE in late 2002. My brigade had deployed to Afghanistan a year earlier with Interceptor Body Armor (IBA), and ALICE gear, to include the Load Bearing Vest (LBV). ALICE rucks remained more popular than large MOLLE rucks throughout my time in, though it was hit or miss as to whether your unit allowed the former. Most of us attached pouches straight to the IBA instead of wearing the Fighting Load Carrier. I wore a standard LC-2 setup (harness instead of LBV) for Air Assault School in 2004, then largely switched to MOLLE, though the earlier issues of that system included ALICE clip adapters. I kept an old M249 ammo pouch on my kit for years. The newest stuff is pretty decent. I managed to acquire a near-entire issue of Multicam MOLLE gear for Drill Sergeant School in 2016, when most Candidates were still wearing UCP ACUs and gear. The Tactical Assault Panel is far better than the FLC it replaced, and just before retiring I was issued a medium ruck that never went on my record. I wish I'd have just paid for the Modular Scaleable Vest. Incidentally, I brought ALICE back to life one last time in early 2018. My last FTX as a Drill Sergeant saw me wearing LC-2 kit, and even carrying my USGI machete and M9 bayonet. The Army no longer does bayonet training, so the Trainees loved seeing me fix bayonet and teach them some basic skills.
@rexrodecolt
@rexrodecolt 4 месяца назад
Awesome 👌 Informative video. 10/10
@robedwards9486
@robedwards9486 5 месяцев назад
God I hated cleaning that stuff after a nice low crawl through red clay. Big grey trash cans filled with soapy water and 1 or two way to big scrub brushes. Then at equipment turn in before going to another unit or base ahhh. They wanted it to look like new even in the seams even though you where probably the 700th and some person to have it before you all mostly older than you where. I joined the US Army in the very beginning of 1990 and can still remember every ding scuff and bit of worn away anodizing from the Vietnam era M16a1 I was issued, still had the triangular hand guards. Loved it though. Figured out how to make the MILES gear shoot it's beam without discharging the rifle. You could give the round sensor near the muzzle a small slap with your fingers and the pressure sensor would register it as the rifle firing and send the beam at whoever or what ever it was pointed towards. Last FTX at basic in the woods I drove the drill sergents crazy setting off their gear so they where beeping constantly. They wouldn't be looking and me or my fox hole buddy would point it at them and slap the sensor, they would start beeping indicating they where hit. Never have I seen such frustration and rage from them. It was the ultimate payback for many hours in the front leaning rest position.
@SteveJ2824
@SteveJ2824 5 месяцев назад
US Army 1992-98, spring 92 basic training we were issued the Kevlar (K-pot) helmets, - Summer 92 AIT Medic school, Ft Sam Houston we were issued the older Steel pot helmets w/ our TA-50 gear for our field training oct 92-93 S korea, our cold weather gear, parkas, mittens etc was the older OD green, not the newer woodland cammo pattern also heard some older vets say that early 80's when they were issued 2 field jackets, one was woodland cammo, & the other was OD green Support units (POGS) were issued a less amount of field gear than combat arms units
@mikearena6590
@mikearena6590 4 месяца назад
Pretty decent description. 87-89 we had the woodland green camo, not the dessert cammo. We had Kevlar helmets and kevlar vests, that were all worn during security alerts, any responses, missile duty, and regular guard rotations. Never used the cammo strips off the helmets. Web gear wasn't used typically on the ship, but was used in off-ship like training or spotting. We were, after all, all infantry Marines. Also used gas masks anytime we were geared up. Running through the ship in that gear was interesting, but the helmets saved my head a few times! I was MarDet, and am in many of those pics and videos that you posted. About half of the guys in those pictures were on the Jersey for our MarDet reunion last summer.
@peterkirk6518
@peterkirk6518 5 месяцев назад
Back in the mid 70's we just called it TA-50 or a ruck sack. Our helmets were called steel pots w/ liner.
@GoldPicard
@GoldPicard 5 месяцев назад
Still called them that even when I joined in 2009.
@michaelh.3555
@michaelh.3555 5 месяцев назад
Steel pot and chrome dome (liner painted silver).
@JonahPedersen-tz3uk
@JonahPedersen-tz3uk 5 месяцев назад
I was a Marine linguist (Navy equivalent is CT) TAD aboard both Wisconsin and Missouri during the Gulf War and this is a pretty good video on basic 782 gear.
@mikequigleyorruneoform7096
@mikequigleyorruneoform7096 5 месяцев назад
I picked up one of them flash lights at a consignment store last year. When you open up the bottom to show the lenses I was like "What!". I had no idea. I think I have a full set and was probably never open given the condition inside. Thank you.
@Synergy7Studios
@Synergy7Studios 5 месяцев назад
I have an A2 grip and an A2 flash hider on my modern AR15 build. They both just work (but i have filed the nub off, it sat right under my middle finger lmao)
@darrenerickson1288
@darrenerickson1288 5 месяцев назад
Really good video, thanks! You can tell the person knocking, “Come!” now. 😂
@Wolfspaine7N6
@Wolfspaine7N6 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the info, I'm using it for my own ALICE gear.
@tonyn152
@tonyn152 5 месяцев назад
Very interesting. Would like to see more about the gear.
@tracygallaway36
@tracygallaway36 5 месяцев назад
Thanks this is a good look a the Alice stuff!
@ArloFSE
@ArloFSE 5 месяцев назад
I was a Air Force FireFighter in the 90's to 2002. We were issued ALICE gear until about 1998 when some of started getting an Assault Vest attached to our body armor issued when our Magazines were moved to the Chest at about a 30 degree clant. I kept my belt mounted magazine pouches to carry extra gear.
@TheRealGraylocke
@TheRealGraylocke 5 месяцев назад
Back in the day when I served in the US Army, yes, I had a pouch to hold a compass, also had a US Air Force survival knife strapped under the issued med pouch. And yes, the flashlights on the right shoulder were a pain to deal with. For inspections, they'd be on the right shoulder position. Normally just drop it down to the waist belt. I was in Military Intelligence (yes, I know of the oxymoron). Also had a Rambo style survival knife I carried while in a tactical MI unit in Germany during the cold war; we were never issued ammo, let alone magazines during training exercises, but there were wild boars in the forests we had to contend with. I could trim down a fallen limb to serve as a makeshift spear shaft for the Rambo knife. Also, back in the day, we used to use mouse traps with camera flash cubes and fishing line to set up perimeter trap lines. Boars didn't like getting blindied in the middle of the night and would run off. Fun times!
@christopherblare6414
@christopherblare6414 5 месяцев назад
I joined the Marines in 2010 and moonbeams were still issued. As far as I'm aware the red sense was basically the only one ever used.
@magtafcmdr8621
@magtafcmdr8621 5 месяцев назад
Joined in 1997. Same use of the moonbeam.
@bw1895
@bw1895 5 месяцев назад
Been in the Army for 25 years now, and I still use some of those items. I hate the camel back, so I still carry my canteens and canteen cups in the original Alice pouches. The right angle flashlight was generally a duffle bag item as we never really carried them, although they are still issued out today. When I carried the LBE “Load Bearing Equipment”, I much preferred it over the newer rifleman’s kit. All of the new stuff places your equipment onto your chest which doesn’t allow for laying in the prone position and makes firing your rifle difficult. The old LBE could easily have the front buckle released so you were laying flat on your stomach which makes for a much better firing platform. I still carry several items from the ALICE days including my ruck sack as I think it’s much more comfortable and smaller restricting how much stuff I can carry to the field meaning I don’t have to carry as much stuff on my back. I never used an M1 helmet only the PGST helmet but I will say that the newest helmets are by far more comfortable than the old ones. A 25 year Infantryman.
@arthurbrumagem3844
@arthurbrumagem3844 5 месяцев назад
I retired from the army before the equipment which puts stuff on your chest. Never gave it a thought about the problems of lying prone. Good point .
@fireemblemistrash75
@fireemblemistrash75 5 месяцев назад
My first gear setup was an alice belt with 3 pouches, a reproduction buttpouch, canteen pouch, and suspenders. Y suspenders are so awful but it led to my current H harness setup from eagle industries for my Ak
@thurin84
@thurin84 5 месяцев назад
that camo/scrim on the helmets interesting. dont see that style on helmets much. pretty cool. would love to see any other field gear you guys have got in the museum. love this stuff.
@patkinder6632
@patkinder6632 5 месяцев назад
When I joined the fleet in 75 we had the M1941 pack , steel pot helmet deuce gear was all old Ww 2 stuff , and the Nam style flak vest
@Riceball01
@Riceball01 5 месяцев назад
Taht was the same gear that I was issued when I joined the Corps in the mid '90s. And that's how we configured our 782 gear too. We were never specifically told how to congifure out 782 gear, but we did learn in boot camp. But it really didn't matter since that was pretty much the only way configure it since it was the most comfortable, practical, and ergonomic way of doing so. One big drwa back of the 782 gear is that it's not that easy to adjust the width of the belt. It's a real pain to make it wider or narrower and it's always best to adjust it once and leave it. But osmetimes you have no choice. I was a Reservist and for our annual 2 week training my unit would usually go to 29 Palms for CAX or Combiuned Arms Exercise and when in the training grounds you had to wear your 782 gear with you any time you stepped outside your hooch so that you had your canteens with you. The problem was that, normally, you'd have your web belt confgiured to go over your flak vest, this means that it's too wide to wear over just your cammies so you had to live with eitherh having your 782 gear hanging loosely or deal with the hassle of resizing your betl down then back up when you were to go out to the field. I was lucky, being a gear nerd I found and bought a web belt extender, this allowed me to keep my web belt fitted for wear with cammies but when it came time to put it over my flak vest, I'd just clip in the extender. It was the greatest single piece of gear that I've ever bought.
@dragonweyr44
@dragonweyr44 5 месяцев назад
The uniforms were called BDUs, or Battle Dress Uniform. The desert camo is the three color and six color desert camo. The Six color was the Chocolate Chip as you call it Fun fact: Enlisted personnel used red filters on their flashlights, officers used blue ones. At least, that was the rule in the Army. Marines, I don't know Red and blue filters reduces how far light travels at night We, in the Army, were issued 1 canteen and cup and no first aid kit. we had a single field dressing located on the chest No compass, no carabiner Our earplugs were worn at all times on aur BDU left breast pocket. NOT on the ALICE pack
@DJF1985
@DJF1985 5 месяцев назад
We never called them BDU’s in the Marines, we called the Cammies or Camouflage Utilities, mostly just Cammies. 1980’s Infantry Marine here. In the Army, which I joined after my time in the Marines, we called the BDU’s.
@rvail136
@rvail136 5 месяцев назад
Im a jarhead who was plagued with the ALICE system. It sucked bollocks. Fortunately, we had a commandant in the late 80s who went camping in the early 90s with his sons in Alaska...his kids had commercial equipment, and the commandant had his ALICE 782 gear...he realized just how bad it sucked. The USMC now has modern, very heavy duth commercial grade equivalent field gear.
@johnnunn8688
@johnnunn8688 5 месяцев назад
A Yank using the word ‘bollocks’? As a Brit, I’m stunned. 🤣😂
@arthurbrumagem3844
@arthurbrumagem3844 5 месяцев назад
Spent 23 yrs in the army and when I did canoe trips in the BWCA of N Mn most of my gear was 100% military. Fairly lightweight, very durable and available. Many would ask me if I was still in the army.
@jonathanstein8147
@jonathanstein8147 5 месяцев назад
Fun little trivia the base of the moon beam that was for extra lenses was more often than not where we packed our chewing tobacco.
@michaeldalzell6670
@michaeldalzell6670 5 месяцев назад
Seeing that web gear brings back memories of when I was in the Army
@studinthemaking
@studinthemaking 5 месяцев назад
What no boxes of crayons for the marines?
@boondocker7964
@boondocker7964 5 месяцев назад
You must be Einstein, eh?
@WillVogt
@WillVogt 5 месяцев назад
At boot camp in 99 we used ALICE and in 2000 when we were in Okinawa my unit 2/4 tested the first version of MOLLE and it was JUNK, cheap plastic frames and so many broke during a field exercise that the whole company had to quit the training a few days early... few things are truly grunt proof!
@stevenckaroly
@stevenckaroly 5 месяцев назад
782 gear or deuce gear were the common terms in the Seabees during this period as well.
@fox579
@fox579 5 месяцев назад
From what I observed, the steel pots were replaced by the kevlar helmets around 1985, but the kevlar flak jackets were in use a little earlier. You see pictures of Marines in Beirut ('82-'83) wearing the steel helmets w/the new (PASGT) kevlar flak jackets. The M-16A1 was still in the fleet during Beirut as well, but was also replaced @ '85 w/the M-16A2. I joined in 1987 and never saw a steel pot helmet or an M-16A1. We had mostly newer ALICE gear, but there was still some Vietnam era stuff floating around too. The radio I carried was a "prick 77" (AN/PRC 77) which, even in the late 80's, seemed antiquated to me.
@CooperJohnson01
@CooperJohnson01 5 месяцев назад
We still use these Alice belts but we just use them primarily for duty. What replaced them is the Molly war belt
@vermontvermont9292
@vermontvermont9292 3 месяца назад
They did make a pad to go around the belt. You can still find unissued alice gear, and theyre still making the belts. I have several unissued full sets. Including 3 full set ups of the lbv88e. Alice a great, I still use it, and use a medium alice ruck with the m81 cover.
@craykard8325
@craykard8325 5 месяцев назад
I was issued ALICE gear with molle IBA in the summer of 2006 at Fort Benning, GA OSUT.
@vaderdudenator1
@vaderdudenator1 5 месяцев назад
Love the A2 shoutout
@steveskouson9620
@steveskouson9620 5 месяцев назад
When I was in the Army, we were transitioning from the old "Steel Pot" helmet, to the new design, which was known as the "Fritz" helmet. It looked like the WWII German helmet, hence the nickname. steve
@henrycarlson7514
@henrycarlson7514 5 месяцев назад
interesting , Thank You
@almirria6753
@almirria6753 5 месяцев назад
My wood land cammies did not have the velcro pockets but the rest of my 782 gear looks about the same 80-84 USMC 29 Palms, Ca [various commands] 96-99 USMC MCAS Yuma, Az
@hololightful
@hololightful 5 месяцев назад
When I went through Army basic in 2003 we were still using Alice gear... And even at the beginning once I was done.
@alancranford3398
@alancranford3398 5 месяцев назад
I wore ALICE gear for three decades. Pulling magazines or hand grenades out was a matter of setting up the belt gear and then practice, practice, practice. I preferred the Marine Corps jungle first aid kit to the US Army practice of just one field dressing (tactical band aid) in a compass pouch--I managed to make it SOP for my platoon to carry two field dressings (they fit!) because modern weapons tend to produce multiple injuries instead of just one hole. Some of the 782 gear I used while on active duty with the Marines was dated 1944 and 1945--the pistol belt/cartridge belt used with ALICE could have been Eighties manufacture or Forties, Fifties, Sixties and Seventies in cotton canvas or nylon web. Extra padding for belt and straps was no luxury. Going on sick call because of web gear injuries was no fun. Parachute cord and 100 MPH tape were necessary to keep pouches from shifting and sometimes unlatching and falling off. Not shown were the entrenching tool carrier and bayonet scabbard (or KaBar sheath).
@OPENXAIMER
@OPENXAIMER 5 месяцев назад
Still use them as conscripts in the Hellenic Army...
@TannyWanny
@TannyWanny 5 месяцев назад
with G3 rifles right?
@OPENXAIMER
@OPENXAIMER 5 месяцев назад
@@TannyWannyYup
@imbetterthanyouis
@imbetterthanyouis 5 месяцев назад
very basic to my original loadout , frankenwebbing a mix of alice / plce , 58 pattern and dpcu , but that was mainly because we were transitioning from 58 pattern to dpcu which was basically alice gear in aussie cammo , that m81 jacket you have i bet you will find is a marsoc modification , and the reason why the Rastafarian helmet cover were not issued is because generally ghilli suits are individually created but the netting on the helmet you have is the head part of a thing called a snipers veil it came with a poncho sort of thing and a piece to cover your weapon in the same material , during the 80s you would have seen a few different iterations of the woodlands from the 70s they would have had erdl and mostly the brown dominant version and the late 70s early 80s it would have been erdl transitional basically a slightly recolored brown dominate then when m81 came in there was a winter weight and tropical uniform defined by tropical being ripstop ( that square stitched material ) and the winter weight being a heavier drill material without the ripstop stitch , you can tell in the photos because the winter weight faded in a very distinct way mainly the black tended to end up with a blueish hue , in fact at the 1 minute 22 mark you can see both guys wearing the winter weight and how drastically it faded and is part of the reason it was discontinued
@imperfectlump6070
@imperfectlump6070 5 месяцев назад
I hated the ripstop because it didn't stop the rips. They were thin.
@imbetterthanyouis
@imbetterthanyouis 5 месяцев назад
@@imperfectlump6070 yeah it did seem to make a tear worse , gotta admit but its more comfy in hot weather
@tankman7711
@tankman7711 5 месяцев назад
Your woodland cammies does not have our EGA and USMC stencil on the left top pocket. As during that time period we did not wear ' nametapes' but were required to have to have the stencil/heat transfer of the EGA with USMC underneath and always on upper left pocket of our cammies.
@cartman4885
@cartman4885 5 месяцев назад
If you look on the left sleeve shoulder it has velco so I think it's ARMY
@tankman7711
@tankman7711 5 месяцев назад
@@cartman4885 Army didn't wear Velcro on BDU, it's been ' customized' for wear underneath armor , by someone. Possibly around time Army went to ACU uniform...
@klsc8510
@klsc8510 5 месяцев назад
I had much of this when I was assign to the 601 Tactical Control Squadron in then West Germany. The unit was a MOVABLE radar squadron. We would deploy to the field and play war games! SO yes some of the Air Force got to play in the mud! We would live in tents and eat C-Rations three times a day.
@DCS_World_Japan
@DCS_World_Japan 5 месяцев назад
The field alterations of the blouse are just like what airborne troops did way back in WW2.
@hanihani-kl1po
@hanihani-kl1po 4 месяца назад
I like the old school military gear ,uniform and equipment 🪖🇺🇸 👍
@charletonzimmerman4205
@charletonzimmerman4205 5 месяцев назад
Smoke-em, if you got em!
@esmith3438
@esmith3438 5 месяцев назад
The putting on the lower pockets on the sleves started in the 2000, mostly with Army SF or SEALS were doing that. the correct goggles were the black sun, dust, wind goggles. ditch the netting on the helmet nobody really wore it. i saw few Marines in OIF 2003 wear it. I wish i could come get your gear right...lol turn you grenade around its in back words...lol
@HootOwl513
@HootOwl513 5 месяцев назад
Actually, that's a Utility Jacket. [1:45] The Blouses were the Green Class A top, and the Dress Blue Blouse. I was in from 1973 to 1977. We were issued the Olive Green cotton sateen Utilities. Viet Nam rip-stop camo utilities were available to Recon people [Mitchell Pattern] in the French-influenced, angle pocket design. Also available in solid OG green ripstop. The Army also had these same uniforms [MacNamera era] but called them something else. My last year, we were allowed to wear the VN ripstop cammies, but we had to buy our own. They were pretty thin in winter, so long john bottoms were needed. Woodland camo came in after I was RELAD. A Marine's Utility Jacket would have an Eagle-Globe-and-Anchor proudly displayed over the left heart. Those Utes must've belonged to a SeaBee or Seal.
@brianmorisset4489
@brianmorisset4489 5 месяцев назад
I had two sets, one for field use and one for ceremonies
@KennethStone
@KennethStone 5 месяцев назад
I’d love to see more of these “what was issued” series. Really helps bring it home to those of us who were NOT one of Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children . Question though- where did they store all the crayons? 😂
@Krahazik
@Krahazik 5 месяцев назад
I got the web gear in basic and during my first enlistment from 99-03, I had Molly gear in 04-05 in Iraq.
@Orxenhorf
@Orxenhorf 5 месяцев назад
The grenade pockets were a pain in the butt if empty. They caught on every fricking stick and branch out there. I actually cut them off of the (surplus) gear I used when deer hunting. (Ammo pouches can hold a surprising amount and variety of other stuff.)
@Karichi503
@Karichi503 5 месяцев назад
That moonbeam looks like its never been turned on. I still have mine. Its worn as hell but it still works.
@ronaldrobertson2332
@ronaldrobertson2332 4 месяца назад
You can order an LED bulb for the moonbeam, making it a bright 80 lumens. Works great.
@DV9486U
@DV9486U 4 месяца назад
The blouse is probably not USMC issue due to missing the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. WRT the pocket mod, Brown Water Navy has been doing that since Viet Nam, allowing the blouse to be tucked and maintain access to all four pockets.
@beefgoat80
@beefgoat80 5 месяцев назад
One of my uncles let me play with a flashlight like that one. I remember him showing me all of the different filters. I wondered why they were those specific colors. I completely forgot about that until now. 😮
@GM4ThePeople
@GM4ThePeople 5 месяцев назад
The ALICE pack & gear still has its adherents to this day.
@davidmarquardt9034
@davidmarquardt9034 5 месяцев назад
Although I never served, I remember reading that when they first started issuing the Kevlar helmets in the early 80's to the army, some people complained that the bottom rim resembled the German WW 2 "Nazi" helmet (even though the design pre dates the Nazis, going back to WW 1). Even though the Kevlar was lighter and the design offers more protection than the older steel helmet.
@baconknightt
@baconknightt 5 месяцев назад
Marine corps veteran here 86 to 95. ARNG 95 2008.With regards to the butt pack,we still had them on our Alice/782,OE-252 gear up until we were sent to Ft Carson for train up to go to Iraq. But while we were there, literally a week from getting on the plane to ho, they handed us new gear, Ballistic body armor w/sapi, and a piece of 💩 new ruck. I'm not saying you're wrong, we just didn't get it all at once. Some units took way longer.😅
@Rabiddojo
@Rabiddojo 5 месяцев назад
I loved the duce gear once you removed then inside straps of the magazine pouch add 550 cord and 100 mht /100 mile an hour tape make lope for single finger grab for mags man I truly hated the new gear when it was Coming out we talk to our CO about E-4 and above did t have to use the new gear unless there was an inspection 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@lorenzosyperreck8941
@lorenzosyperreck8941 5 месяцев назад
Apart from the first aid, these webgears are still the standard issue here in Brazil, Mag pouches, flashlight, canteen, belt, compass, all exactly the same.
@orlandosierra9109
@orlandosierra9109 5 месяцев назад
What about them sexy UDT shorts that RECON is wearing on 4:23 ... I remember the tighter the better. LOL Anyone who wore those was high speed dual cool! Ooh-Rah! Great vid, brings back outstanding memories.
@ralphjacobson8815
@ralphjacobson8815 5 месяцев назад
Even as a Tank Commander, we had that crap. Imagine getting it caught on something when climbing into an Abrams and end up suspended from the turret ceiling.
@jastrapper190
@jastrapper190 5 месяцев назад
The Large Alice rucksack is still the finest military rucksack that was ever issued. Imo. In Ir@ q from 2002-2006 I was issued all sorts of rucks From Alice to MOLEE AND THEN FILBE AND THEN ILBIE… But even given all the new systems I still deployed by my choice with an ALICE. My vehicle once hit a landmin€ with our LAV and my pack was shackled on the left from headlight cluster… a very “privileged location on an LAV because the rucks in the back get absolutely coated (with several inches sometimes after a day of hard driving through the desert) with what we called “moon dust”. It got into everything. When you unrolled your isomat to sleep at night it was like the dirt-E kid from Charlie Brown. A cloud of moon dust in your sleeping bag and everywhere imaginable. So having the left front headlight cluster to shackle a pack to in an LAR BN it’s to best spot… except when you hit a landmin€ with the left front tire… Then everything you own is blowing in the desert winds looking like Swiss cheese. I still have that Ruck Sack. If you hold it up to the light it looks like Swiss cheese. What did the most damage believe it or not wasn’t even min€ shrapnel but rocks and dirt thrown at incredible speed by the expl0 sives. But that ALICE ruck I could have patched and sewn for a few hours and made serviceable again. That ALICE ruck was far superiour to every other ruck. It was cheap and simple and fits the 99th percentile. It was light and had just enough in the way of pockets without being ridiculous like the MOLEE or FILBE. I also prefered the Alice magazine pouches for much the same reason. They were just an amazing design. I always carried four fr@ gs and six magazine as an infantryman along with a mag in the weapon and sometimes double mags taped together in the weapon for a total of eight.
@steveskouson9620
@steveskouson9620 5 месяцев назад
Interesting! steve
@morganmckenzie1303
@morganmckenzie1303 5 месяцев назад
The frame on the kidneys though...
@jastrapper190
@jastrapper190 5 месяцев назад
@@morganmckenzie1303 I know some don’t like the fit but it never bothered me. To this day I often use my ALICE to get groceries with. I can carry some serious weight in it and it distributes the load quite well. The frame is one of the best features of the pack. I remember taking the fabric off of ALICE frames and strapping all sorts of stuff to it with the shelf that’s compatible with it. 5 gallons jerry cans of gasoline and water. Multiple ammo boxes. A PRC-119 man pack radio. That’s one of the “strengths” of the design. That frame on its own is infinitely useful. I’ve even strapped on a Home Depot bucket onto the frame and used it for throwing trapping stuff into or for a seat while goose hunting and throwing the animals in the bucket to keep things clean. I could go on and on…. Lol. I truly do love the design. Like everything… if you throw 75-100 pounds of anything on your back… within a very short distance it’s a misery. However that is a downside to the design… some people of very tall or very short stature… the pack isn’t really “adjustable” in the way that more modern designs are.
@Alcochaser
@Alcochaser 5 месяцев назад
I have a whole detailed web page on this subject if you would like to share and examine it. Google "US Nylon Field Gear of the Cold War and Post Cold War"
@thurin84
@thurin84 5 месяцев назад
thanks for sharing that!
@Alcochaser
@Alcochaser 5 месяцев назад
@@thurin84 Glad you liked it!
@bjpikas
@bjpikas 5 месяцев назад
Damned...I didn't think I was that old yet....as all this gear was my initial issued gear at my first duty station.
@ZygmuntKletterstein
@ZygmuntKletterstein 5 месяцев назад
We used to love stealin... Erm, trading ALICE packs with you guys. Cut the stupid frame away, leaving only the top bar and a quiet Bergan! Wonderful Ruck
@user-rf3cn2ou3x
@user-rf3cn2ou3x 5 месяцев назад
Always liked Alice !
@michaeldalzell6670
@michaeldalzell6670 5 месяцев назад
That flashlight 🔦 was to keep low light disaplen
@blue387
@blue387 5 месяцев назад
I'd like to see reviews of helmets from M1 to PASGT
@johnwalsh4271
@johnwalsh4271 5 месяцев назад
Are those grenades hollowed out? The dummies, like the ship's dummy rounds, are usually painted blue.
@harry503
@harry503 5 месяцев назад
I hope
@boondocker7964
@boondocker7964 5 месяцев назад
As long as the fuse has been cut off the grenade is okay to screw around with "gently".@@harry503
@shawncarter5619
@shawncarter5619 4 месяца назад
I joined the Marines in 1989, and we still had all of this crap as standard issue. The LC1 harness was a hot mess that spent most of its time sagging down to your ass and riding up around your ribcage in front. The pack was GREAT!!! I loved that damn thing. Quick release shoulder straps, good light weight frame...the design is still much better than modern issue. And it came in THREE sizes! Ahhhh nostalgia!
@stevenkiergaard6129
@stevenkiergaard6129 5 месяцев назад
Love the 'maroons' misspeak. I'm former gator navy so, while I have huge respect for these maniacs that we kicked out the stern gate to go be bullet sponges, I seldom miss a chance to "heckle".
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