The sad part is multiple of the marines arrested were demoted and ran through the legal system because their command insisted they knew about everything going on despite zero evidence. One of the marines I knew. He was arrested because his roommate was involved and first sergeant was 100% certain he had to know something. He knew nothing. They wasted his time for years and caused a good marine to leave the corps. EDIT: for those asking, it was released everything that happened after the investigation. Marine Corps was forced to drop many of the charges due to illegal handling of the investigation on the Marine Corps' side. But, those who were actually guilty and participated in the crimes were dealt with by both law enforcement and the Marine Corps and got what they deserved. No, they were not trafficking children for sex slavery. They were trafficking weapons, drugs, and families across the border. And yes, it is possible to have a roommate for an extended period of time and not know wtf they do after work. Everyone has their own personal life.
Oh but forcing everyone in the military to take an untested and experimental government vaccine or else you’re kicked out of the military won’t force good service members to leave? We should be worried about the jarheads who don’t think and just “follow orders”.
@@lg860 it's innocent until proven guilty here in the states and always has been. Not denying that it doesn't go that way always, yet overall that's the rule. If you wanted to experience guilty until proven innocent you should have just gone to Mexico. Not that long ago that's how it was and cops would literally pick up men who were walking on the sidewalk for no reason than to fill arrest quotas set by government officials. I'm an American yet my parents were always nervous when I went out walking that I to would get picked up. After all they dam well could and would threaten you with jail if you didn't cough up some money.
I lost a boot camp buddy in June 1970. He was a grunt in 2nd plt, Fox company, he died from multiple fragmentation wounds. These Pendleton Marines have dishonored themselves, their families and most of all 5th Marines.
The California Globe contacted Camp Pendleton to confirm the administrative and criminal punishments that were handed down. Military spokesperson, Major Kendra Motz made a public statement over the weekend that nine Marines were sent to courts-martial, eight pled guilty, and 15 were charged with lower-level offenses.
I appreciate that they kinda just had them march out of formation and stand in a perfect line, like they got the order to get arrested and were just like “alright then fair enough.”
What were they going to do, fight back?. They were in the right place to get a fight, but they were not going to come out on top. For one thing, they wouldn't have been armed, and the MPs are always armed.
When we were stationed at Ingleside, TX, I reported a large group I witnessed huddled around a desk watching child r*pe porn. I had listened to enough of their vile remarks to know they didn't just stumble on it and were going to report it. I was told they would be dealt with. Two years later, I learned two of the men earned promotions to the next rank and the others were either still stationed there or moved to another duty station. The person I reported them to was part of their CP ring. Six years later, we were in Groton, CT. Here we go again ... more underage and child s*xual abuse, including materials and active physical abuse on children and underage girls. The command didn't play games there. Several men and one woman were arrested and everything they touched was taken into evidence. Families were questioned and there was even a sweep of their neighborhoods to question neighbors and children. Big difference between locations.
Back in the 70s we were called out to formation and you could see the drug dogs going into the barracks. Found nothing but as the went to the company HQ, the dogs stopped at a Marine who was discharged that day and was waiting for his buddy to bring him to the airport. Since discharge day is an active duty day, his “enlistment” was extended for another 3-5 years.
This happened several times when I was a El Toro ..same time area ..used to be in morning formation which usually took only mins ..evertime we stood for a extended period we knew they were searching the barracks
I would have went AWOL and let them drag me to Virgina for a few months while I was processed out when they caught me. And got a OTH discharge. Or just say I'm a drug addict and not quitting drugs. Same way to get a OTH
I was stationed there with 2/5. People would be shocked at how much organized crime occurs on Camp Pendleton. This is not the first trafficking ring to get taken down.
Everytime there was a search for drugs/contraband in the barracks they always found something. A whole lot of something. Never had anyone arrested that I knew, but a ton of NJP's thrown out like candy 🍬
That's because health and comfort inspections can't lead to criminal charges unless PMO or NCIS is there to conduct the search. NJP is not a criminal charge and doesn't require a criminal investigation.
@@MisterBones223 Same. I got out for a whole host of reasons. Basically boiled down to getting burned out from backing my guys but getting shafted by the E-8/O-4 and up level.
my dad was a combat instructor on Pendleton we all lived there for three years and we moved like a year before this happened. It was crazy to me because i never thought marines would do this but also i knew that Pendleton was the marine version of a small city. Where marines and dependents would rob the gas station and break into homes for a lil extra money for the commisary
This is a more "diverse" marines which resembles something more akin to mercenaries not to mention the lower standards of admittance. No one is seriously joining the U.S. military out of loyalty or duty anymore. It is a gig. Which is a damn shame when compared to our ancestors
Yea 40+ Armed NCIS Agents and a few battalions of Marines would encourage a "peaceful surrender" by almost anyone. Still you can see why they didn't (wisely) arrest them during target practice or a live fire exercise XD
I was a cop for 5 years. The ones who resisted arrest were either a) career criminals who were arrested a lot, or b) completely innocent. These marines knew they committed a crime, and finally got caught! They knew in their heart they were 100% guilty and just disgraced everyone. It happens every every every time!!!!
@@prettynoose8497 Thank you for your service to our communities and your insight! I agree and cannot see a perspective where the arrested Marines had their rights violated or ignored as the lawyer claims but hey I never went to law school. As a former police officer do you see any misconduct at all or just a metric ton of BS?
I used to be in the USMC working as an F/A-18 maintainer. In the early 2000s I belonged to a joint Marine - Navy Hornet training squadron at MCAS Miramar, at San Diego, CA. In 2000 there was a bunch of busts within one of the work centers that ran a drug ring. They had members of the squadron who were really NCIS that helped root these guys out. The work center that had lost so many members couldn't function anymore, so higher echelon transferred in a bunch of guys from deployable squadrons to staff that shop once again.
They had to pull a whole Hawaii P-3 squadron out of the cycle right as they were getting ready to deploy to Diego Garcia in 2001 because NCIS busted a third of the maintainers for making/dealing meth. The CO was later relieved for sleeping with one of his clerks.
@@APersonOnRU-vidX used to be. I EAS’ed back in 2013, years before this. So I dunno which battalion is currently residing there or which battalion this is…
I used to live in the end room on the upper deck in 2004, the room I was given after my trip to the sandbox. 18 years later it looks pretty much the same.
While I was between A schools in Great Lakes NTC, I had a collateral duty where I had to escort people returning from AWOL/UA through their processing (drug tests, admin stuff) I saw many people with disciplinary stuff on their way to getting kicked out or sent to the fleet un designated (Deck Seaman). Watching them go through that was the biggest deterrent for getting in trouble for me.
Where is the evidence that the charges were dropped? What specific rights of theirs were violated? Are you aware that military law is NOT the same as civilian law?
While on CQ my team leader smelled weed in a barrack room. He told the private to just give it to him so we could flush it and call his squad leader to keep it internal. He refuses so we had no choice but to call MP. All of a sudden there was CID and MPs and battalion commander. Turns out he had a couple pounds of weed and ecstasy. Edit: this was ft.wainwright, AK at like 1AM. Thank God I had the next day off..... lmfao I never thought to myself until now what was probably said at formation the next day
I was in that formation watching some of my boys get taken away. They had popped for drugs, and had nothing to do with the guys involved with the smuggling. They were solid grunts who knew their job and never pussied out. It made me sick to watch them get treated like that in front of everyone. Rules are rules, and they got caught, but plenty don’t and go on to pick up rank. This was one of the major moments that made up my mind to not re up.
I served in 1/5 from 2005-2009. This doesn't surprise me. That unit is notorious for charging people. My company once charged 90 percent of the marines for a hazing incident despite evidence few participated. I once had a 1st Sgt who said "Disrespect my ncos and I will make charges up to nail you". I miss pendleton, but not 1/5. Screw that unit. Ps, in that hazing incident I escaped charges because I was in the hospital for blood poisoning. I got lucky
@@Styxswimmer I care, because I work to make money to pay soldiers to defend me. If you were to choose between a soldier who spends his rec time IMPROVING himself mentally, physically, and spiritually or some failure of a soldier who spends his rec time as a pothead, which would you prefer doing the job?
We had a couple of guys pop hot in my unit years back. At the time, consequences ranged from rehab and/or demotion to discharge depending on rank and if it was the first offense. I had one young Sergeant in my squad who decided to voluntarily take discharge because he wanted to smoke weed. Words got a little heated between us briefly because I thought he was making a bad decision. In hind site, good for him for knowing himself I guess.
Wow! That’s a good lesson. A lot of people go through their whole lives without ever really knowing who they are. My brother (who’s a Marine), would have just called him a shitbag to his face, and then never given him another thought! He’s not one for reflection. 😂
In my early 20's I was eager to join the Marines. I wanted to have that "killer mentality, and reputation". So, I went to the recruiter, talked to him. They found out I had asthma in my medical history, and said I wasn't eligible. They said "Go try the Army." Now that I'm in my 30's, I'm glad they didn't let me join. I don't want to go fight some war for some old fat politicians to line their pockets. And, I also enjoy smoking a J from time to time.
@@jdmbeats Sounds like the right call. I was the same but didn't have asthma so I enlisted in the Army National Guard. 10 years after my discharge, my back is shot, my hips and cervical spine are crooked and at least one of my discs shows minor degradation. The VA won't accept the x-rays I already had so scheduled me for more but they only requested for my cervical spine instead of a full back and hips like I needed. Now I have to figure out why they didn't request anything else and schedule for it. I have to fight to prove that I, a 5'5" 145lb SAW gunner, wearing a 30+lb vest, Kevlar helmet with NVG's, around 15 to 20 lbs of ammo, a 22 lb fully loaded weapon system as well as everything else, has service related back and hip problems and I was told since I was in the National Guard, the VA won't even try to track down my medical records. I weighed myself before putting on my kit and after. It weighed just over 92 lbs. I humped more than half my body weight every single day for a year and I'm in constant pain. Luckily my state legalized weed so that helps. Doesn't fix my body though.
I have a neighbor who just moved in maybe a year ago. Real nice younger family, super friendly. We’d take them vegetables from our garden and get fresh eggs in return. The husband was an army guy stationed at fort brag. One day I come back home and he’s just gone. Few days go by and I see moving trucks. I ask what happened and evidentially MP came and just scooped him up for an unnamed offense that was a 25-life sentence. The wife and son had to move in with her mother in Charlotte since he was the bread winner, real sad. Well a few months pass and evidentially he was involved in trafficking and underage… content. Never would’ve guessed he was that type of person. This stuff happens more than you’d think. Super spooky. New neighbors moved in about a month ago and they’re a real nice older couple, brought over a flan dish to say hello. I just hope there’s no surprises with these lol
There was a couple accused of being Russian spies and when interviewing neighbors they talked about how kind they were so basically everyone hides behind a mask of their true self these days
I remember when I was in Sgt's course back in 04 a Sgt always came to class with between $30-50k in his pocket. He was a grunt to from 1/5. He was robbing banks in fallbrook and escaping through the back gate onto base. He and couple other Marines were checking their rifles out of the armory to rob the banks. It wasn't in formation though!
A guy in my OCS class initially came in on the “Judge Program.” Ended up being a damn good Marine, transitioned to Navy EOD and eventually became an officer. It works for some people.
I was in OSUT in 2017, drill asked if anyone joined to avoid going to jail one guy said yea, he got caught with coke and I guess the judge dismissed the case once he knew he enlisted. He was from Tennessee
Being in that formation was the day I knew I was either moving branches or EAS'ing after my contract. I chose to EAS. Would not recommend being under the command of (then) Lt. Col Olsen or SgtMaj Dorsey, absolute poor leadership and understanding of an INFANTY battalion.
Sorry you had such poor leadership Devil Dog. I was down the road from you with 3/1 India before I EAS years ago. I do know how a bad Marine leader can make life hard though, especially in combat ops in Iraq.
Since being out of the Marines for a few years I can say the worst supervisors or leaders ive ever had were marines and as a civilian the worse supervisors to have are prior marines.. sad but true.
@@bhoff82 I'm very much happier now since I got out. Glad we didn't go into actual combat under their command or it would've been a bad day to be a grunt.
@@TJ-zz4lr yeah I know what you mean. Got a Supervisor who's been out since the 80's who's got a serious attitude problem when things aren't happening his way 😂.
Just because someone wears the uniform, does not mean their character is in line with the honor that comes with the uniform worn in service. There are, truly, some serious scumbags who somehow get in and ruin the perception of the whole because of their sole actions. And they're the reason why we get safety briefs about drugs, rape, human trafficking, and other seriously criminal issues.
Military citizens are held to high standards, I often feel the same standards should be applied to government officials who misrepresent intelligence data in order to initiate military action against sovereign nations, often getting many people killed in the process.
I worked in the fire service for years, I was shocked at some of the conduct that these men and women had who wear the uniform, the same people who swore to protect and serve the community. So seeing this in the armed forces does not shock me. So I agree with your opening comment...
I had a marine coworker that told me he smuggled people. I never believed him but after seeing this video he was probably telling the truth. Crazy bastard
Being called out of formation like that and then straight into the hands of NCIS/CID and ultimately to the brig/stockade. Your heart gotta fking sink like the titanic right in that moment.
The first few that got called out probably had no idea. After five or six guys everyone in that ring knew what was going on... and yet they stood in formation and reported when called. but then, where could they go? They had to know they were being arrested and were surrounded by law enforcement.
that honeslty was a stupid way to do it. bet that captain, wanna be high speed, thought it was a good idea to make "an example" out of them in front of everyone. while im all for smoking someone infront of their peers or in front of a formation, a freaking mass arrest because of pretty heinous crimes such as human trafficking and drug smuggle... nah. thats just flat out stupid
Growing up in the Marines. The amout of child abuse and sexual assault towards children I witnessed, and/or experienced is truly astounding as an adult now. The best decision I hope I truly made, was telling my recruiter I wouldn't be going to boot camp as scheduled.
I served in the USMC from 1989 to 2009. Almost all of the child abuse I saw was committed by either the local allied civilian population or enemy combatants. The few times I did see it being committed by our personnel, I reported it. 12 of my 20 years were as an MP and a CSI/CID. Fortunately, most of the crime committed by our people did not involve children.
How did you grow up in the marines if you didn't even go to boot camp? Also I served twice and have lived my entire life and have never seen ANY sexual abuse in or out of the military. Now I am well aware that it is RAMPANT everywhere and a few times I dealt with advances that I escaped. Some guy even attempted to rape me with a butcher knife at age 17 but I fought my way out of there. These things still are not considered normal behavior though, especially in the military. I think a lot of it depends on the kind of people you hang around. I believe any type of rape or child molestation should be a Capitol Offense, no questions asked. We might fry a few innocent men in the process but I would honored to be the first innocent man to die and just consider myself a casualty of war against this heinous crime. This type of offense is worst than murder. It affects that child's entire life and everyone they come into contact with. I could explain further but don't care to. Just like hard drugs it's a cancer and I've seen it ruin generations. Lots of crimes should be considered a CAPITOL OFFENSE and until we start taking the future of mankind seriously we will always have this cancer eroding our society and poisoning the future of humanity as well as mankind. I am sorry for your trauma, it should have never happened.
@M Y T H I C A L N O V A Is that okay with you buddy? I saved time and now here I am wasting more on your little cringe emojis. This river goes both ways brother.
I was stationed there from 05-09. 62 area. I miss San Mateo every day, and I got out 13 years ago. When I got out, I feel like I left part of my soul behind at Pendleton.
Sadly, this is repeated all too often in the service. Almost exclusively drugs, but I've seen it all during my 25 years in the navy. Currently, standards are being lowered to allow these types to enlist to fill the ranks of a military in distress regarding recruiting and retention. Expect more scenes like this.
A DD is a terrible thing to have on one's record. Some feel this is worse than a felony. At least a felony may be expunged. Consider the case of my brother in law. He got a DD for drug use and going AWOL. He died recently. The drugs took a terrible toll on his body. His sisters were upset that he couldn't get the normal VA burial benefits. I hated explaining how the bull ate the cabbage if you will. A sad story for my brother in law and these young marines.
Highly unlikely that any of them got Dishonorable Discharges. Some might end up with Bad Conduct Dishcharges. There's a big difference. Very few Dishonorable Discharges are given out. Most will probably end up with a "General Discharge, under other than honorable conditions. Most discharges received at court martials are upgraded during the review/appeal process.
I am not sure I follow you here. As I understand your comment, the DD is so bad that, something something bad that was not a result of the DD, he couldn't get a burial. I am not going to argue about a DD here, but you didn't really illustrate how bad one was for someone being discharged aside from not getting a VA burial when they are dead and no longer care. Or maybe I am nitpicking. That said, I am only talking about your comment and have no doubts that there are other details that would not be best to air out on a YT comment string.
@@CharlieUlivarri A DD will absolutely ruin your life, much less your time after death. You lose your right to vote, your second amendment right, you lose all rights to military veteran benefits including medical care (I believe this even applies if your injuries and disabilities are service related), you will never work a government job again, you will never receive a federal benefit like financial aid for college, you will find similar difficulty in finding employment after discharge as if you were a convicted felon (in so many words you are). A DD is catastrophic.
@@CharlieUlivarri DD is worse than a felony in most circumstances. You have the same rights as a felon afterward and whatever you do you have to disclose that you were DD which inhibits you greatly. Also you get no entitled benefits of being a service member. So anything you may have been compensated for is unattainable and veteran and active duty service programs are also unavailable to you. Lastly most DDs come along with a Stint in a federal prison and because your military you end up in a military prison which arguably is worse than normal prison, so there's that.
When I was in back in the 80’s, approximately 4 or 5 Marines were caught with heroin and syringes in their foot lockers. Back then we lived in squad bays still. So the command had the entire platoon arrested even those who lived off base with their spouses because for sure everyone was involved or knew something and failed to speak up.
@@HateTheIRS It's a great pollitical tool. Fluff abunch of inflated numbers to make yourself look liked you cracked a ring, but most people wont challenge the brass and 20ppl get the shaft for 3 people.
When i was in the service i was a seabee, I served with the third marines in nam. In my squad almost everyone used drugs. The battalion waited until our tour of duty was within a week of going home then general discharged all that they could , I served in the Arizona terriority, hill 65. liberty bridge 67/68
@@mokooh3280 I have no idea. I'm just a civilian. I know he was on 2 ships in his Navy career. The first one and the one he always boasts about is the John King. I think he was a Seabee after serving on the ships. (But don't quote me on that.) I only ever knew about him being a Seabee because it was the 2nd most thing he was proud of besides the Navy in general and the cartoony looking Seabee patch on his BDUs when I was a little kid. I know he was stationed in a few places so maybe that explains it. Idk to be completely honest. I'm fairly ignorant to a lot of things about the military. I'll be straight up with you.
When I was in the Canadian forces we had a guy busted in a pedo ring. We were tasked one day to clean the basement of our barracks because of a field mice infestation. We got to his locker and it was stuffed with Lego building sets. They were all the same set, some Star Wars thing. We thought it was really weird and we asked him about it, to which he told us he was collecting them because they were rare and would be worth a lot of money in a few years. Turns out he was using them to bribe little boys to keep quiet after he took perverted pictures of them. He was busted a couple months later, spent the max time in military prison which in Canada is 2 years less a day, plus a DD and another 8 years in federal prison
I remember being in this formation, it was wild, nobody liked the BC and SGMAJ. But those dudes were actually doing drugs and it was stupid that none of them were discharged dishonorably. But the Battalion Command loved to play stupid games, so they won stupid prizes
Regardless of the who, what, when, where, or why this seriously degrades our armed forces, and the worst part is that these are Marines, some of the toughest we have to offer.
The USMC tries to instill their core values and 14 leadership traits into recruits in boot camp and in the ongoing development of Marines. I believe you should learn those values and traits as a child by your parents long before you ever join the USMC. If someone is a scuzzbag entering the USMC, they will, most of the time stay a scuzzbag. In today's popular culture and society, being a scuzzbag is accepted and even encouraged.
We should hold our armed forces to the highest moral standards when it comes to protecting human life. If you can't keep that many men from becoming criminals ofc you should be degraded for the world to see
Yes, Marines who take part in an illegal activity like human trafficking degrade the Corps. Their arrests are like cutting out a cancer, leaving the United States Marine Corps a healthier body without them.
The fact that a lot of charges were dropped because of mishandling of the investigation on the Marine Corps part is so on brand. I worked S-1, so I’ve seen plenty of legal bs that commands get away with daily. It’s insane. That being said, some of these Marines got what they deserved.
I lived in a few barracks that were condemned. That trash happens all the time. I hated being in Garrison. Bunch of piss tests and uniform inspections, room inspections 😆.
I see a lot of comments defending these Marines. I think they are in denial. I'm retired Navy and US Customs and Border Protection. I have personally arrested military personnel at the US/Mexico Border in San Diego for alien smuggling. I've had former Marines tell me it's common knowledge that there are criminal gangs in the Marines. They join the Marines to learn skills that can be used in street combat. The Navy also has gang members in the Fleet.
Bro don't live in the FANTASY WORLD of the U.S. Military is Crime Free or Trouble Free. Many People join, from all types of backgrounds & temptation is real. Military Life is very similar to Civilian Life in the aspect that you're there to preform a Job. You get paid, you go home, you have free time etc. etc. A BIG PROBLEM is that many in Active Duty feel as if they are UNTOUCHABLE or they know everything or all the rules & ultimately they believe they are SLICKER than the SYSTEM. Know this though, no matter what or how long something goes on EVENTUALLY it'll be brought to LIGHT & those who are/we're involved will have to face their wrongdoings!! Just some REAL ADVICE from a former ENLISTED.
I'm confused on what the problem with this arrest is, can someone explain it to me? Some people said it violated rights and was done wrong? I don't understand how.
As I recall, the Bn CO made comments to the Bn that undermined the presumption of innocence of those arrested. The Bn CO needs to retain an attitude of impartiality, which he failed to do.
You have little if any rights in the marine corps..there is an article in the UCMJ [ UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE ] To cover any cause they'd need to arrest a marine right down to they don't like the color of your hair..or how it's combed..
I personally was honorably discharged even after being found guilty for conspiracy to counterfeit money. Hit with a article 15. Loss of rank, 45/45. Gained all my rank back BUT my employer is a defense contractor and it showed up. You can get a DD changed to a general discharge. Sadly I’ve heard soldiers getting the book thrown at them for petty things. It’s up to your chain of command how far they want to take it.
@Bass N Brass Does a general discharge do anything for your resume or job prospects? Is it worth putting down on the paper or is it something one would rather not disclose?
I got an article 15 once lost the fine from pay over being 30 seconds late to a formation, and it was the Leutenants fault that punished me for being late lol. Needles to say the NCO's over me made sure it vanished later on.
I got a general under honorable from the army for a DUI, after being in for 3 years. I’ve erased it from life don’t tell anyone I was in don’t call myself a veteran I don’t use and haven’t tried to get any sort of benefits. I mostly just try to forget that chapter of my life but the regret and shame is something that is still with me 5 years later
There was a guy on my Navy ship that insulated one of the bulkheads with Thai Stick. Dogs smelled it out. I believe this was the first ever incident of drug sniffing dogs coming aboard this particular ship. It was a relatively new thing at the time. Urine tests were new as well. It was toward the very beginning of modern drug interdiction policy within the US Navy.
When I was a platoon commander at Camp Lejeune in the 70s we regularly brought dogs in to search lockers and field gear. I remember one night out in the field I was checking lines and one guy was really surly with me. Turned out that he had been smoking a joint right there on the line before I came around. So much for Semper Fi. I had a few thugs in my platoon.
Standing in formation ready to depart on Iraq deployment, 6 names read from my platoon to get their gear and stand aside in formation. All charged with drug trafficking, in overseas duty station. Master mind got 30 years the rest got 7 years for the use of the drug. (LSD). Funny after that we deployed, we were the best platoon in the Battalion.
It was a fight club incident in Hotel company. A week later whatever company shares the building with hotel one of the instructors threw a recruit off a 2nd floor balcony. Whan i went they had a lot of DI's in training school to fill the empty spots for the DI's that condoned both instances
I could fill the first name with a couple last names. Irony. I know of 2 who got promoted on 2 merit boards. Corporal to Sargent. Pathetic! Sometimes the worst get to the top by polishing the right knobs in the command....@@vindictivegrind9370
lmao, when I was in my battalion commander went through our barracks while we where away training in 29 palms and he found a small bag of coke in a locker and lsd strips just sitting in a fridge in another room. he also fried all the corporals and below for having liquor in their barracks and our CO and 1st sergeant dumped a laundry bag full of everyone's liquor bottle's in front of the whole company while in formation. Great times
Ugh. I stood in from of the old man in Iwakuni. I was accused of giving an ex girlfriend (PFC and UNDERAGE) from another unit alcohol. All because I was in the barracks room she was in at that time. DId I mention she WAS an EX girlfriend? Long story short, ALWAYS SAVE YOUR RECEIPTS! I was innocent of not giving her alcohol. Which was true. No one in that room was drinking at the time I was in there. They knew I would bust them. My biggest mistake. Dating a PFC AND who was UNDERAGE. The old man just told me to use better judgement when dating women.
Drug use in the Marine Corps was a problem in the 70's. You never knew when the guys would show up with their drug dogs. They just walked into the barracks and told everyone to immediately stand at attention in front of their bunk. You should've seen the stuff they were throwing out the windows as they got up. You could've started a drug store or a weed shop with what was lying on the ground by the barracks. I didn't have to worry because I lived off base with my wife!
I wish Hollywood would stop trying to make the marines out to be all apple pie just because they have a cute uniform. They should be treated the way they treat the Army.
Being treated like the army would be wonderful. The way Marines are treated on a daily basis is a lot like being a POW. I think that's why none of the brainwashing cases from Korea were Marines. To them it was just another day . They did need to face a judge but the way it was done had to be terrible for unit morale.
I was once at Keesler AFB in Biloxi, MS on TDY for training. There was this creeper of a guy named Matt in my training class - had a mustache, glasses, told a lot of dirty jokes, etc. One day, he's called out of class... and he never comes back. All my instructor says is "Matt won't be rejoining us." I get back to lodging and I see Matt's car cordoned off by caution tape with what I presume we're OSI inspecting it. We all knew what it was: Child pr0n. Weeks later, an on-base PSA was released about Matt and what happened with him. As it turns out, his crime was... pirating music and movies? 🤔 I kid you not, that was what they said. We all just presumed it the other thing because he was a creeper. Was piracy really what happened? I have no idea. 😅
They wanted to make an example. Otherwise you could have just called them out 1x1 and had them go into an office where a couple guys were waiting, cuff and stuff and load on a bus.
Good order and discipline above all! Burger King kid doesn’t do their job, someone doesn’t get their French fries. A Marine you trust with your life doesn’t do their job, someone could die.
@@christopherjakel1049 Highly unlikely! To me Integrity is what God thinks of you! Reputation (theirs would have sucked after this) Is what everyone else who know you thinks of you.
My son was very disillusioned with the Marine's. He was expecting to work with men like his two grandfathers, one WWII Paratrooper and the other CBI. His supervisor told him the military is a microcosm of society in general, unfortunately. And since he was serving under BHO he didn't stay long.
I did under clinton. I went in 1992. Hit the fleet in 1993. Still had the 'fear of a senior lance corporal. Fast forward 3 years later and I end up in Iwakuni Japan. PFC's telling Gunnies to go screw themselves. Write them up or NJP. So much for 50 cal pits dug with canteen cups...
They weren't told they were getting an 'award'. Thats not how military citations are given. They are given in DRESS. They were ordered 'front & center' during roll. Period. No 'reason' needed to be given.
Shame on you SGTMAJ, CO & USMC for parading this in public BEFORE any courtroom/judge/jury touched it. Innocent until PROVEN guilty is supposed to be how our system works. Several were eventually proven or pleaded guilty and that’s just fine, shame on them but to publicly disgrace Marines (let’s just call them “American citizens”) like this PRIOR to seeing a courtroom is inexcusable. I can only hope the CO and SGTMAJ were both relieved. Perhaps the base CO should be scolded as well? Very glad I retired before this sort of public opinion court garbage occurred.
Chuckles as you finally realize that wearing a uniform doesn't make you God. Nothing like fighting for oil right lol. That's all we do nowadays. While politicians call it freedom.
CAMP PENDLETON - The July arrests of 16 Camp Pendleton Marines in front of their 800-person battalion was unlawful and a violation of their rights, a Marine Corps judge ruled Friday. The July mass arrest of 15 Camp Pendleton Marines in front of their 800-person battalion may have violated their rights and threatens to upend the case, attorneys for two of the accused told the Union-Tribune. On the morning of July 25, as 800 Marines stood in formation at the Camp San Mateo area of Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton, 24 Marines’ names were called. In total, 13 Marines were charged with human smuggling and conspiracy, and eight more were taken away for questioning. Those eight, who were said at the time to be suspects in an unspecified drug activity, were escorted off but not charged
Wow. That was my barracks when I was with 1/5 from '83-'84. They were 3-man rooms, and mine was the 6th or 7th from the right on the lower deck. They were brand new back then. The front of them and door were the same orange color. Memories.
This looks exactly like my Barracks at Camp San Mateo with Wpns Co. 3/9 in ‘83-‘84. If I remember correctly, 5th. Marines were stationed in Las Pulgas?
Imagine getting arrested and convicted for this and like a year later the president and congress human traffic over 2 million illegals. Talk about a kick in the nuts. LMAO. poor guys.
80s here, short time at Pendleton but it was a very different feel for a base. Spent 6 yrs out of country and saw the world. It turned out they everywhere is the survival game, just different rules.
Nobody in the comment section actually stated why they were being arrested in this particular instance. I’ll assume this incident had to do with human trafficking.
NIS did a grandstanding show: my federal civilian LE manhood is bigger than the USMC. The criminal suspects should have been called into the BN SGM or FSG's respective offices one at a time. This would have prevented embarrassment to the BN and allowed a safer apprehension of each suspect within a controlled environment. Nothing was gained from this pure showmanship. The Camp Provost Marshall should have objected to this scandalous affair. I assume the LTC was about to retire. The Provost Marshall has the last word on any military installation,. No federal civilian LE official may override him. Federal civilian LE officials are invited onto military installations at the request of the respective Secretaries of Service.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. John 3:16
Wow. I have stood on this exact spot. Just what in hell is going on? My second family, the First Marine Division. No, I am not a Marine, I'm an old firefighter. I trained my fire crew with the Marines, long story for another day. Let me say one thing though, I must. We trained in full gear, humping the hills there. When a Marine gives his nod of approval, and tells you "you guys are crazy", I take that as respect. I was a reserve Captain. I made many friends. When I had trouble supporting my little girls, guess who showed up at my door with groceries? Truth cannot be simpler. Oorah, Semper Fi! There are good and true Marines there. Please don't let this reflect poorly on the Good Men who serve. I will NEVER forget you, my true brothers. Damn, I should have made it simple and been a Marine.
As an MA I have seen it all. Drugs, prositution, theft, trafficking, porn, rape. you name it we have it in the services. You have to remember the services are a cross section of civilian society.
All I got to say is when I was in boot camp in San Diego half my platoon was former criminals and also half of them didnt even speak English... Boot camp for me was like a the worst hell hole prison you could ever imagine. Beatings arrests misconduct you name it it happened. It was straightup like the worst maximum security prison you could ever be in insanity everywhere with a high drop out rate. My whole platoon was under investigation and criminal interviews by the CO of my company. Lots of Mexican gang members in my platoon.
