@@thisismadness1827mario got heavily nerfed at the beginning of the movie because he's barely starting. Hence why Second round he got slammed. Also, didn't Mario save Brooklyn when Bowser and his goons Infiltrated. The same happened in Sonic's first movie but against Eggman..? Mario wasn't actually fighting the dog he tried to be as silent as possible and prevent the bathroom to be ruined
@@GianEditss sonic is still too fast in base, he might not be able to hit Mario with crazy hard attacks without the chaos energy but he’d still be way too fast to get hit, he’d be clowning Mario like he did to all the people in the bar fight scene 🦔>🍄
Yes, finally a guy who are not a annoying Sonic fanboy or a Mario fanboy. You're right, they're both goats. The Mario and Sonic franchise literally marked my childhood a lot, and I honestly hate it when these fanbases are spreading misinformation about the characters against each other, just to justify that Sonic (or Mario) wins at No Concept of Diff. The world needs more people like you partner, keep up the great work!
Mushroom Mario: Breaks blocks and walls and creates little earthquakes. Chaos Sonic: Shut down all power to a continent just on a whim. And you say power goes to Mario...
@@chrischen8456 Super star last 10 seconds. Super Sonic's couldown is proportional to the number of rings he has, so if he has 400 rings he can just camp Mario and wait until he turns back into his normal form. Ps : can Mario fly? Answer says NO
I think that people are forgetting that movie Mario’s just a regular guy with very little experience. If Movie Sonic (in base form) fought Movie Mario (in base form), Sonic would definitely win. It’s not even close. Sonic takes strength, speed, durability and everything else (maybe besides IQ). Movie Mario stands no chance against Super Sonic, even with the Super Star. He literally had the power of the universe in his hands and sliced through Eggman’s robot like butter. Sonic in his super form is untouchable. He slams Mario in every category
Dude the Mario movie is set in 80’s and the sonic movie is set in our day so the experience go on Mario and even the IQ because being plumber is doesnt mean being stupid
@@Kaiju_Enjoyer_69 when I say “little experience”, I’m referring to everything related to combat. He doesn’t know how to fight well and had just started to learn how to battle. He’s an experienced plumber, but I don’t see how that’s gonna help him in combat
How is mario better in the category of strength than sonic mario in the beginning has the strength of a normal person and sonic is much deadlier than mario.
As much as I love Mario (and Sonic), Movie Sonic vs Movie Mario should not be a debate as Mario is just a normal guy, with not many feats because he is just a newbie. Maybe when we get more statements and feats, only then it gets remotely close.
You can give durability to Tanookie Mario since he never got hit, actually, you can’t give durability to movie Mario at all since he looses the power up in one hit 💀
Mario (Base) vs Sonic (Base + First Movie) Durability goes to Sonic. [He survived bomb and missile explosions] and in my opinion, he wins Mid-High Diff. Mario (Super Mushroom) vs Sonic (Chaos Charged) Durability, Endurance and Power go to Sonic. [Mario's Power Ups lose their effect with any type of damage] and for me he receives Low-Mid Diff. Mario (Lucky Bell) vs Sonic (Chaos Charged) Strength goes to Mario. [He hit Donkey Kong so hard that he easily broke iron bars and several bricks along the way]. Durability and Battle iQ go to Sonic. [Durability is the same thing as Super Mushroom, while Battle iQ is why Sonic has shown to have a slightly more varied intelligence for combat]. Reflexes go to Sonic or it's a draw. [Both have great reflexes but Sonic has more reaction speed] and in my opinion Sonic wins High-Extreme Diff (if we add other topics such as AP, Endurance, DC and others, it would be possible to prove what I'm saying). Mario (Super Leaf) vs Sonic (Chaos Charged) Durability, Battle iQ and Abilities go to Sonic. [Durability I have already explained, Battle iQ has also been explained, now in the Abilities part Sonic has: mobility over water, electrical discharges, creation of projections of himself, being able to fold into a ball shape, time reduction, being able to run on steep surfaces, increase the power of your blows and Spin Dash] and Sonic gains High-Extreme Diff. Mario (Super Star) vs Sonic (Super) Strength goes to Sonic. [He stopped Eggman's robot foot which was bigger than several houses in the city and then his punch, Eggman's robot has the potential to destroy a city] and in my opinion, Sonic wins Mid Diff.
Valid points but Battle IQ and Abilites go to Super Leaf Mario [Super Leaf Mario is very intelligent he knew how to stop a giant bullet from exploding] [Abilities aswell is Super Leaf Mario Mario has a lot of Mobility and travel speed Mario was also faster than bomber with his power up my opinion Mario Wins High Diff
@@HomeoftheeditzFor me, the Abilities kept going to Sonic because he had a greater variety and seemed better to use in combat, like his projections that he could use to confuse the minds of his enemies and the electrical discharges that were so large they could hit the enemy. Mario up in the sky. Battle iQ also remains Sonic for me because it's more creative than Mario. Just like in the bar scene in the first film where he moved so fast that time slowed down for him and so he took the opportunity to mess with people, he also thought fast enough to use desert sand to blind Eggman, in the comics that he had the idea of running extremely fast inside the safe in which he was trapped so that the two of them would fall and not be taken by the bandits, and he was also smart enough to take a robot part to use as a Snowboard and go down the mountain of ice and he also came up with a plan to defeat Eggman and on top of that he was managing to combine his abilities with Knuckles and Tails since it was the first time they fought together as a team. And it is for these and other reasons that I still believe that Sonic will beat Mario (Super Leaf) with High-Diff.
Bro forgot mario is just some normal ass guy without any abilties and even with powers sonic solos cause 1 hit and he becomin normal and super sonic vs mario with star sonic solos cause the star in movie is also temporal while sonic chaos energy is until he decides This was proven in the second movie as since sonic decided not to use the emeralds because he isnt responsible First movie sonic barely knows how to fight but still claps mario
I don't really know a lot about Sonic, but I do believe he is very powerful. But what I do know as an extreme Mario fan is that he is basically invincible with a Super Star, unless there is a time limit.
And knowing that Movie Super Sonic can wish for literally anything, he can just wish for the same Super Star as Mario has. What is Mario doing if Movie Sonic does that?
Do we really need to debate again after over 30 years ? Sonic beats the f out of Mario's asf with any power with any version with any environment with any fcking condition, Sonic is a super saiyan hedgehog, Mario's a human dum*ss
Fact is browser is multi-universal in the fandom it stats “Mario defeated Bowser, who was under the effects of the Power Stars, which enabled him to create universe-sized realms within the walls and paintings. He had to of created the time in the painting as well, as time and space cannot exist without the other. Further evidenced by how Tick Tock Clock is a world entirely based on time. If he didn't, he'd have Infinite speed for moving in timeless realms. Now, why universe-sized? Because just Bob-omb Battlefield is described by Mario as a parallel world of some sorts when he calls it a world and compares it to the main verse's realm as a world. We also know Bowser made this pretty much instantly. And we know Bowser created these worlds individually, because Toad describes them as Bowser's "separate" worlds." There are a lot of mistakes in your argumentation.First,"which enabled him to create universe-sized realms within the walls and paintings." Toad here said: "Bowser has stolen the castle's Stars, and he's using their power to create his own world in the paintings and walls." "his own world" is singular and "in the paintings and walls" implies that he create a world within the paintings and walls, wich means they're all connected each other making one big dimension. And yes,i referred the world as "dimension" because of the unknown size. What? you already prove that? yea nah saying bob ombs battlefield is universe size because the manuels said "Another world" is not correct. Another world doesn't means he's a parallel world,only an another space, "an another dimension" Also,for the timeframe,really? Argumenting bowser did it instantly because mario said '' I'll head out right away "means no sens at all,you can't just say he did it instantly because mario said that,you don't know(or at least don't explain) how much time does mario take for coming over peach's kingdom. For the time thing,time does exist in this dimension,but daily reminder that timeless void exist.(just a reminder nothing more.”
This is from the games but browser is still a higher tier then sonic in the movies. The tanooki Mario made a world collide which is a least a Plantery feat alone.
Bro said powers on the 2nd round belongs to Mario wtf💀 He literally lost its power after getting hit ONCE lmao💀 But still you respect them and said both are goats so
@@Tonhonumero1 bro sonic faster than speed sound he Just soaked Electric and mario is human level he not fast Just steong and iq high others normal like human sonic win mid diff
Mario with the cat suit is able to dodge many attacks, with the mushroom is able to gain a lot of strength, with the tanookie suit gains some speed and agilty, and with the super star is almost inmortal
On the last one I have a complaint Sonic parried a near-titanic robot punch with his hand and even destroyed another without needing to move Mario defeated an army that was itself somewhat easy to defeat
Super Sonic proved to stop the blow of the giant robot without wobbling while Mario with the help of Luigi were able to throw Bowser with many turns, no Hate
@@Godzilla_kingofthemonsters Sonic survived a explosion. Was able take to Tank the force of ramming into eggman’s cyber car which was enough to flip it over .And Was able to tank hits from knuckles.
Mario has more feats than Sonic Because He did tank hits from Donkey Kong and Bowser But he also tanked a Blue Shell Explosion,Sucked underwater, Constantly Damaged on the Training Course and Also fell from the Second Floor of the dark lands after being shot
@@GianEditss that doesn't change anything experience depends on how old a character is mario is in he 40s and sonic is in his 20s or 30s mario should win experience
@@GianEditss I'm not even that big of an anime fan, but Goku scales to universal from what I've seen and that's probably a lowball with the scaling I've seen fans of Dragon Ball do. I'm a much bigger fan of Mario and Sonic (Sonic being what I'm a bigger fan of.) but their movie versions don't even get close to some of the stronger anime characters.
Awesome edit!!, I Iove it!! In my opinion super sonic wins superstar mario mid-high diff, the superstar is more powerful(i guess) but its just for a moment. But you re right in the final, both are goats
That's true but in the movie Mario and Luigi had it longer than in the video game. When the fight was over they went back to normal. Maybe in the movie version they can choose when it can stop. Game Mario destroys Sonic though that's for sure. Thank you for liking my edit I appreciate your nice comment :)
Base: Mario High Diff Base 2: Sonic 2 Low Diff Mushroom vs Charged: Sonic High Diff Cat vs Charged: Cat Low-Mid Diff Racoon vs Charged: Racoon Mid Diff Star vs Super: Super High Diff Overall Both Goats
Sonic base vs mario base=sonic mid diff Sonic2 vs mario=sonic no-low diff Sonic chaos charged vs mario mushroom=sonic neg diff Sonic chaos charged vs mario bell=sonic no diff Sonic chaos charged vs mario takooni= sonic no-low diff Super sonic vs star mario=sonic no-low diff No way bro gave mario reflexes Isnt chaos charged sonic the form which was at the end of sonic1 when he beat eggman. What is mario doing if sonic goes at him with that speed
I think that in agility it is wrong because Mario has the agility of a cat and Sonic has super sonic speed so I think that even Mario with the power of the cat, Sonic would win
Lmao no he wouldn't 😂 sonic gets mid Diffed dont say "power ups are 1 hit" while thats true if sonic is not able to land a single hit on mario, why would Mario's duarability even matter? (this is his power up form)
For the super star and all chaos emeralds there both have combat and for Strength💪 i think it goes to Super Sonic cuz in the movie he pull a huge Big Robot (Death Egg Robot). Power is for both ( Man there are both wearing💪)