"Marjorie Morningstar" (1958) 

I thought I'd seen all her movies, but I didn't know this one existed. So glad to find it too.

Oh yes! I´ve met such Noels - luckilly they have no charm for me.

I don’t know...if said Noel Airman looks like Gene Kelly I think I’ll chance it, even for a 46 year old Kelly. He was STILL SO HOT even then.

To his credit, Noel airman was very self-aware and honest in his relationship with Marjorie. He could have been more of a con artist. And when he was about to be, for candlelight dinner in his cabin, her uncle came in and firmly set him straight.

Happened to me, with a composer in LA.. that’s show biz ladies… “that’s a wrap” ( as they say) .. always chasing the illusion of fame… and ignoring all the love and goodness all around him. I gave up many a “ suitor” under his spell.. my bad ..

Great movie! Great quality upload . More classics please.

You can write about your dad in your diary rather than on a comment about a movie ,it would be more personal to you ,strangers don’t care.

@@user-ke8st8jc1v your wrong - its nice to share the human side of things. She’s allowed to do both.

@@user-ke8st8jc1v I care. You are wrong. There are many caring people in the world who you have not met yet, and empathy for another person's shared feelings are very much valued by me, so speak for yourself.

Speak for yourself!!!🤔 I thought what she said was very heart felt & I Thought it was worth saying! I am sorry your such a missarable person! You need the Love of Jesus! He would heal your heart! 🤗

@@caroleelagrone9729 Most of christian religious people are not emphatic - than for shure Christ is not heal there hearts 🤗

Huge age gap.

@@keithharvey7230 What are you refering to?

Ahhhh, our movie loves, who epitomize masculinity or femininity to us; the ideals which we almost never attain. No wonder that sense of poignancy lingers on. 🥺

I've always loved Natalie Wood... she had a vulnerability that I could relate to.

@@angelacoleman6580 Natalie Wood's vulnerability was particularly noticeable in "Love With The Proper Stranger", which is my favorite of her movies. She and Steve McQueen were wonderful in that movie. It's interesting that Steve McQueen married Ali MacGraw 10 years later. She too was a classically beautiful brunette like Natalie Wood.

I think the film differs from the nouvel, especially the ending which is somewhat sad. In the novel, Marjorie has a conventional marriage and become a shadow od herself but she does not marry Wally.

@@isabellecouturier2559 WHAT!? I don't wanna know

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Yes. So good.

@@dalegreene2756 Stop with the stupid emoticons.

A Man In A Net, she was fabulous in the role. I found out she was up for Lorene's role in Here To Eternity, promised it in fact just had to do the audition. The chair Monty Clift sat in in the scene where Pruitt meets Lorene is the exact chair that was Morticia Addams! Carolyn was gifted it post AF and kept it the rest of her life.

Thanks. Even though I saw her name at the beginning, I kept trying to think who Marsha was. There is a Hallmark actress that looks just like her, but I knew this character would be too old to be her.

This!

Oh yes. I would love for someone to wait on me like that. So beautiful. Just beautiful.

He really cared and put her feelings first.

They divorced because she caught him with the butler. Ten years later, they remarried. She said, "Better the devil, you know." Unfortunately, I believe she caught him again. She may have made a fatal mistake by saying she'd had it and was going to tell the world who RJ really was. That would have ruined his career since he was toted as a ladies-man. He never called for help and refused to turn on the lights. Another couple heard a woman crying for help and a man saying in a mocking tone that they were coming. They were in a boat themselves, and they couldn't see where the woman was. They tried calling the Coastguard too but didn't get an answer. She was found early the next morning, floating in her red downfill jacket with wool socks on. Her bladder wasn't empty. I don't understand how she kept those socks on in the water. She was also covered in bruises. He refused to identify the body and left in a helicopter. He made the captain stay in-house for a year afterward. Christopher Walken has never said a word about it. More information will come out once RJ is no longer with us.

@@lorimiller4301 but she didnt catch him with walken, lana confirms that there is no way walken was "that way." She thinks it was a fight between natalie and wagner, he hit her, maybe knocked her out, realized he'd crossed a line and dumped her in the ocean, hoping she'd drown and his violent mistake wouldnt come out.

@Cindy Hiel Natalie was murdered by a murderer.. that rrrat, R.J.. *I know.*

@@lorimiller4301 ABSOLUTELY correct. That Rrrrrat murdered her. He had thugs following the Captain everywhere and forcing him to go back to rj's house or ELSE DIE TOO. Captain was under lock and key at rj's house. But still bothe the Captain and that spineless creep Walken heard Natalie being BEATEN to a pulp AND DID *NOTHINGGG!!!* YES. NATALIE CAUGHT WALKEN AND THE RRRRAT SCREWING EACH OTHER. AND RJ DIDN'T WANT NATALIE TO TELL. SO HE MURDERED HER. HE SILENCED HER ...BUT WE KNOWWW THE TRUTH. ALLLLL INVOLVED IN THIS COVER UP HAVE PURCHASED THEIR TICKETS TO HELL. AND GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM. INCLUDING THE FAMOUS CORONER AND THE POLICE!! RJ WILL PAYYY FOREVER. PLUS HE WILL STAND TRIAL. THERE IS NO TIME OUT FOR MURDER.

@@joejones9520 Horsesht! Lana didn't know but *I DID.*

Natalie Wood as Marjorie Morningstar made me cry. She didn't know what a wonderfdul actress she was. May she rest in peace.

This comment really touched my heart. I wish I had dodged a bullet too back when I was a sweet young kid with a lot of love to give.

I thought of that at exactly the same moment in the film. They would have had long fruitful careers left.

They were both great and left us way to soon.

I agree everyone I've ever met has loved someone " inappropriate " and had sex that felt so right but they judged it as wrong. Knew their family and friends would not approve. But didn't care while their obsession blazed hot!!

“ Dee Bigelow” Amen, sister, well said ❤

This made me laugh at what was considered risqué literature back in the 50's. GOD'S LITTLE ACRE, EAST OF EDEN, CATCHER IN THE RYE, MADAME BOVARY....

@@servraghgiorsal7382 We had to read Catcher in the Rye during Senior year in HS. I found it to be so boring!!

@@deboraholsen2504 I couldn't put it down. Then read all the Salinger I could get ahold of. Read it again several years ago, in my 60s. Found it just as moving, insightful, and reflective of the confusions of adolescents as well as adults. Maybe try it again...

Lol! Funny story, I remember watching the old Peyton place t.v. series when was a sixth grader, much to mature for me, I'm now in my sixties 😉

Yes, with a flashlight under the covers with my two sisters sleeping in the same room only with me it was the book “Peyton Place”. 😂

Yes He wrote great novels

@@carolreid4821 , I’ve been on an Audible binge with Wouk’s books…..really appreciate him for the first time! He was incredible.

Caine Mutiny!

Enjoy your end days. I intend to live a long life with many happy times to come.

@@jaengen ... what a rude un-necessary comment.

Hey, thanks for that side note :) I guess it's easy to tell that even in his role in MM, Marty seemed kindhearted, considerate, and humble. Perhaps that is why he made such a good husband for his wife in real-life. Thanks for your comments 🙂

Were you happy with the casting? We all 'cast' the characters of our favorite book & Hollywood is hit or miss meeting our expectations!

@@poorthing As much as I loved Herman Wouk's novel "Marjorie Morningstar", I never could get interested in the movie. Something about it never got through to me. It was probably Gene Kelly cast as Noel Airman, because he looked nothing like the way Noel was described in the novel. It wasn't Natalie Wood because she was perfect as Marjorie. I remember reading the novel the first week of Christmas break right after President Kennedy was assassinated, when I was 16. Herman Wouk is still my favorite American novelist. He lived to be 104.

SHOE GAL “They don’t make movies like that anymore.” My precious dad and I always said that about the old classics we loved. “Marjorie Morningstar” was one of those. So nostalgic and sentimental.

Yes. I have to agree with you.

“There’s a Noel Airman in every girl’s life”…..truer words were never spoken.

Yes INDEED 💕🌸

Yes! Lots of learning from the Noel Airman’s of the world. ….

The title of the movie could have been

I agree, You have good tsate.

Gene.. Very handsome

there is so much emphasis now on being a virgin when you marry. Back then it was the Most Important Thing for a girl in certain dysfunctional circles.

@@dianaparadise799 sorry but I'm thinking you've got it backwards. I'm 75 and virginitywas incredibly important until the hippygeneration broke everything open. Society changed so much almost overnight. . It took a longtime for many of us to find our own values and not discoun t those of our parents completely. Not all of our parents were " dysfunctional "!!!

If you liked the movie, you would love the book!

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Me too! sobbing like a baby and I'm 74 years old

I’ve been bawling tears over this film nonstop since 1958.

Hello how are you doing?

The movies today are just too damn cynical. Sorry to say, so are too many of us. A little sentimental emotion can be good.

Hey there..You're Welcome! Thanks for your lovely comment :)

A lot of ethnic versatility there.

Hello how are you doing?

Another great movie is Splendour In The Grass!!

@@janelleabbott2227 Natalie Wood was also terrific with Robert Redford in this property is condemned. From Ms. Harper Stacey.

I agree with you he looked more like early 40s

@@lorraineelkosiry3542 He was 46 at the time lol.

Carolyn Jones looks too old too, in fact she was 8 years older than Natalie

I surprised myself ❤

And to think she was married to Wagner when she made this movie!🙄

Non-dancing? He definitely did a turn or two.

@@Alexaklr Well yeah, but it was secondary.

Hello 👋 how are you doing?

That's Carolyn Jones...addams family morticia

STJ oh my goodness!!! THAT IS Mortician from the original tv show the Addams family!!! Oh my goodness

Carolyn jones ( morticia in the adams family ) As Natalie’s friend ,

I doubt if Barbra Streisand or Meryl Streep would agree with you. Both fervently pursued show business careers, and both succeeded beyond anyone's wildest dreams. In addition, they have had fulfilling personal lives. Show business isn't for everyone, but it can be triumphant if you know how to navigate it.

@@chrisn7259 How do you know these two are happy ? Have you spoken with them? Fame and success do not make for happiness and fulfillment. It’s a double edged sword many times.

I agree, having loved a composer who is always chasing the illusion of fame and ignoring everything else in his life..

@@mariec4275 Even in everyday life, not everyone is happy all the time. Everyone has problems. It doesn't matter if you are in show business or not.

I only know of the film with Audrey Hepburn called Green Mansions. Perhaps the title came from a resort. I recall reading that the director went to South America to look for locations, but the jungle was too dark for the story idea, but it worked. I don't know if the title is related or a coincidence.

@@jamesstuartbrice420 The two aren't related except in name.

this was shot at schroon lake in the adirodack mts in northern ny state

There were many places like that resort in the Poconos and Catskill Mountain's in the 50's and 60s both for families and singles. Went to a few in my way back when. Definitely brought back memories.

Hello 👋 how are you doing?

As always, 😉. First time seeing this movie. Thanks for uploading it.