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Marshall Plexi VS Neural DSP Quad Cortex 

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4 months ago I reviewed the Marshall SV20 20 watts Plexi. I loved this amp so much that I had to order one. Since ordering one my Neural DSP Quad Cortex turned up and I've been using it for the majority of recordings in the studio. In this video, I see if the Neural DSP Quad Cortex inbuilt plexi tones can compare to the real thing. The Studio Rats are core band members Paul Drew on guitar/production/mixing, drummer James Ivey and Dan Hawkins on bass. They collaborate with singers and musicians to produce radio-ready songs.

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Комментарии : 263   
@ValNanovsky
@ValNanovsky 3 года назад
Dude, this is one of the most complete and accurate comparisons I've seen. Fantastic job! Really appreciate all the work you have done!
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Cheers Val!
@SlinkyT82
@SlinkyT82 3 года назад
Excellent tone and playing, that lil plexi just kills! Played through one once and was blown away. Love the comparison with the QC, def sounds really cool and will hopefully get even better with updates. Cheers!
@jorgeleonel6663
@jorgeleonel6663 3 года назад
Excellent experiment/video, Paul! I was looking forward to this!! Thank you
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Anytime Jorge
@nicholaslee2442
@nicholaslee2442 2 года назад
Thanks for the awesome video! You really answered the whole tube vs digital debate inadvertently. But, the cortex is an insane value for all the things you get. I hope to own the cortex for my main recording tool and an sv20 just for my personal pleasure
@VictorAxelsson
@VictorAxelsson 2 года назад
just wanted to say that in my opinion you have the best guitar tones on youtube, it’s amazing how good it sounds in every video you make. Clean tones and distorted tones, all sound so good. Love the quad cortex vids! Planning on buying one so it’s super helpful :) ps. your playing is ofc super awesome as well
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 2 года назад
Thanks Victor!
@NikolausBrocke
@NikolausBrocke 2 года назад
Very professional and focused test. Thanks. Subscribed.
@TheAtticus82
@TheAtticus82 2 года назад
Dude, this sounds insanely good. Nice work!
@stevewoodzell415
@stevewoodzell415 Год назад
Thanks for the great video, super useful! Am pretty much sold on getting a Cortex for live use
@joeedbkk
@joeedbkk 3 года назад
The capture sounds identical to me, that Quad cortex is an impressive piece of work. Your channel is one of the best guitar channel out there and you deserve more subscribers. I'm really enjoying your videos.
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Cheers Joe, much appreciated
@michaelwirth6843
@michaelwirth6843 2 года назад
What are you talking about?!? The Plexi sounds like a real amp, QD doesn´t!
@jeremyedwards9304
@jeremyedwards9304 Год назад
@@michaelwirth6843 you’re gonna tell someone what they hear lol
@guitarlair
@guitarlair Год назад
@@jeremyedwards9304 it sounds close but the Plexi is def fuller on the low/mids, if you can't hear that you're tone deaf .
@BenLubin
@BenLubin Год назад
Sounds phenomenally close. Amazing technology.
@danielbertola7868
@danielbertola7868 2 года назад
The comparisons of the capture to the real thing always impresses. Its hard to compare when sitting in the room but listening objectively, the QC is unbeatable in the modeling world at the moment.
@ignaciogiss2315
@ignaciogiss2315 Год назад
It's amazing how good and up-to-date the amp sounds with a 60 year old design.
@IvanBassist
@IvanBassist 3 года назад
The Neural Capture sounds pretty damn good, but that Plexi sounds awesome! I recently ordered a QC. Looking forward to testing it with bass :) Great video!
@qualaup
@qualaup 3 года назад
Awesome capture Paul!!!
@zeluizsn869
@zeluizsn869 2 месяца назад
I'm a new user of the QC. This comparison was really good. Subscribed to your channel.
@EricMarinko
@EricMarinko 3 года назад
Wow the capture was really good. Great sounding amp! I'm not really sure about the model comparison though. It seemed the real amp was noticably louder, so loudness bias is a factor when trying to subjectively judge it.
@johns4751
@johns4751 3 года назад
Great comparison! It’s remarkable how close the QC can come to the real deal, particularly in the hands of an expert operator.
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Cheers John, that Marshall amp is so good.
@jayl5941
@jayl5941 3 года назад
Another fantastic video. That is one great sounding little amp.
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Cheers Jay, yep that Marshall is killer
@dreamscuba
@dreamscuba 3 года назад
Great video and comparison. I have a QC and this is the closest I will get to having a plexi. You got the QC sounding very close; the capture was even closer. I am very impressed with the QC and yet it reminds me what a phenomenal bang for buck the Boss Katana is, which I have. Thanks Paul! Oh, your Goldtop is so lush.
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Cheers as always Scuba
@cleverdood
@cleverdood 3 года назад
Those both sounded amazing! I doubt you’d be able to tell them apart in a mix, but holy cow did they sound fantastic!
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Cheers Jason!
@Ningishzidd4
@Ningishzidd4 2 года назад
Wow, great playing. Such a rich sound.
@NevermindTheNirvanaTributeBand
@NevermindTheNirvanaTributeBand 3 года назад
I'm capturing one this weekend! Thanks for this!
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Nice one, let me know how it goes.
@Nicolae8607
@Nicolae8607 3 года назад
Please post this capture in the cloud sound amazing. Thank so much..your videos are very educative and cool tones🤟
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Hi, thanks so much. Will do.
@DropDee44
@DropDee44 Год назад
@@TheStudioRats So whats the cloud name? :D
@irishRocker1
@irishRocker1 Год назад
The model was similar but the capture was spot on! Specially having seen the model comparison first, when you hear the capture comparison it was like wow that is what you were aiming for but could not get with the model. It was interesting to see you add post eq to get it closer though.
@CoreyWitt
@CoreyWitt 2 года назад
Not sure if anyone else has asked this, but I'd pay just about anything for a Kemper Profile of your SV20 through that db13 cab. I used to have a similar rig, with the handwired Marshall 2061x into the exact same db13 cab. It's so great. Thanks for posting this!
@LeoAmuedo
@LeoAmuedo 2 года назад
Love your channel !!! Great playing as well !
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 2 года назад
Cheers Leo.
@TavaresProject
@TavaresProject 3 года назад
That capture feature is a beast!!!!
@MrFafnirsgold
@MrFafnirsgold 2 года назад
This is the Best video I ever saw in comparison of a real amp with a digital amp. I make every bet. In a Blind audition I would find out 100% what is the valve and what the DSP. Even if they are becoming better you cannot make something better that is perfect in building out the tone. In dynamic, attack and response. Brilliant. Thanks. One thing in advance i am messing in every comparison dsp vs valve. How dsp reacts when decreasing guitar volume and how a valve amp reacts doing the same. In my opinion this is one of the Main differences
@Utubesup7890
@Utubesup7890 Год назад
I’ve had both and amps first and pedals. But the quad wins in all areas. It reacts when you lower the guitar’s volume. The Kemper sounded like a cocked wah when I’d lower the guitar’s volume. I couldn’t wait to sell it for many reasons. Many reasons. The feel. It need da pedal to help it with sound and feel. Ui was awful. Rig manager a pita. I don’t want to be tied to a computer myself.
@SuperEr90
@SuperEr90 5 месяцев назад
that sound capture was impressive good!
@Nicolae8607
@Nicolae8607 3 года назад
OMG I want this QC so bad 🤟 Thx for the video,always a lot to learn from them.
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Anytime Nicolae
@physiciansplaza6557
@physiciansplaza6557 3 года назад
just got mine after waiting 6 months, worth the wait. Now if I can just figure out how to use it
@Geetarhed
@Geetarhed 3 года назад
Les Paul plus Marshall = tone heaven, great channel!
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Cheers Rob.
@nigel900
@nigel900 2 года назад
Fantastic! 👍🏻 Me got a Marshall Plexi 1987x, but me want the Quad Cortex too…
@thebassshopbsas
@thebassshopbsas 3 месяца назад
The best video comparing quad and a real amp so far.
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 месяца назад
Glad you liked it
@TheRickdoggie
@TheRickdoggie 3 года назад
Great video Paul! Hard to beat the real thing! But you matched it really nicely.
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Thanks 👍
@mattgilley8789
@mattgilley8789 3 года назад
Please, please post this capture in the app. Sounds killer!
@physiciansplaza6557
@physiciansplaza6557 3 года назад
EXACTLY what I was about to type, I see a great many beat me to it lol
2 года назад
yes please. Post it
@affair2k
@affair2k 2 года назад
Yes...I am thinking in buying a QC, and if I can have this sound, It's a no brainer for me.
@jeshuabenson12
@jeshuabenson12 Год назад
amazing video!! i'm now convinced to buy myself a quad cortex! will sub to you as well! God bless!!
@pabloc9869
@pabloc9869 Год назад
Amazing Job 🙌🏻
@BenJ2827
@BenJ2827 3 года назад
QC is on my shopping. I have the SV20 combo and with an SD1 in the front it’s the best sounding aggressive rock amp I’ve ever owned! Amazing amp.
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Nice one, cheers Ben!
@Nghilifa
@Nghilifa 3 года назад
Sounds effin great! If you hadn't pointed out which one was which, I prolly wouldn't have known myself. As far as sound quality goes, the digital stuff is right up there. I haven't tried playing one myself but I suspect (like you said) that the experience of playing through one is different from the valve/tube amps that we all know and love. I might have to enquire Santa about a QC for christmas 🤔
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Cheers Ricky
@DidiHyena
@DidiHyena 3 года назад
Nice Video👍 You said it...you feel the difference by playing...something is for the bedroom, something to get the power... real men play Marshall🤘 stay tuned and keep on rock'in
@ThatIrishCowboy
@ThatIrishCowboy 2 года назад
Wow! When you said " that's getting close" I busted out laughing because that was so accurate as soon as you tweaked the EQ. I love my quad cortex. My main distortion right now is a capture of a dumble I found paired with a klon centaur and boosted by the utility gain. It sounds phenomenal. With the QC I now have a dumble, klon centuar, mezzabarba trinity, driftwood, and even a wizard. That's like $200k worth of amps and pedals that sound exactly like the originals.
@IndyRockStar
@IndyRockStar 2 года назад
i have the Helix. I love the Helix, but compared to the QC it's like having an Epiphone LP to a Gibson. I ordered my QC from Sweetwater (only seller in USA) and I was told I'd get it by September sometime. For only $1,849 it beats a Kemper or AxeFX by a mile.
@dutelatte2154
@dutelatte2154 Год назад
Wow when you capture the sound it's really amazing, when you are just making the sound I don't think you can get a good one as much as when you capture it, the less versatile thing is knowing that after capturing you can't change any parameters.
@paulcasilio1119
@paulcasilio1119 3 года назад
Paul: "I hope you got something out of this." Me: "Every time, Paul. Every freaking time. Thank you, man."
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Thanks Paul, I’m glad you do.
@simonecelante7729
@simonecelante7729 2 года назад
Great job!
@TechnoRiff
@TechnoRiff 3 года назад
Nice comparison. I think with a bit of EQ tweaks, the QC could sound even closer to the Plexi.
@ian2lorimer
@ian2lorimer 3 года назад
Nice....the capture sounds pretty damn good. Pretty close.
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Cheers Ian.
@abgz1206
@abgz1206 2 года назад
Awesome. Thanks 🙏 #staysafe
@Paul-D
@Paul-D 2 года назад
I really paid close attention here, great headphones etc. and I think that SV20 here absolutely ruled the day, They way you recorded it (what mic did you use btw?) just caught everything I love about that plexi sound - although id of had a little less drive haha. The neural is awesome too.... but it sounded so 2D compared to the bloomy natural fuller sound of the amp.
@bogg4n
@bogg4n 3 года назад
That capture sounds great! Will you share it?
@paultozz928
@paultozz928 2 года назад
WOW. VERY INFORMATIVE I still using a pod hdx 500 with great results. I will upgrade soon It's at the end of it lifespan after 6 years of gigs.Gigs beat up gear on the floor
@Utubewrk123
@Utubewrk123 Год назад
Put it higher up. You can’t compare that hd500 thing. I had one. It was awful. Actually a lot of the pros are using it on the floor. I’ve seen some bands have them on metal slides out of a metal cabinet. But the foot switches will hold up. You can’t protect a pedal board either on the floor.
@FrallaN024
@FrallaN024 3 года назад
Great video
@stevenf7474
@stevenf7474 Год назад
Capture sounds great!!! Are you going to upload it? It would be great :)
@06szymonszymanski
@06szymonszymanski 3 года назад
Sounds really good but real thing wins for me. Great comparison, thank you 😊
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Agreed the Marshall is definitely top.
@IvanXman
@IvanXman 2 года назад
DSP is the future. They will get more and more powerful and there will be the point when you won't need tubes anymore. In fact, tubes are the outdated technology (last century/millennium) that requires a lot of electric power, produces a lot of heat and not really reliable:)
@jaimemonroyofficial
@jaimemonroyofficial 2 года назад
Yes, definitely real amp wins, QC sounds good but it is only that, sounds good.
@Utubewrk123
@Utubewrk123 Год назад
Great stuff here.
@DANTHETUBEMAN
@DANTHETUBEMAN 2 года назад
You dialed that in vary close, you could raise the high frequency your boosting at the end. The capture sounded great. I could record or play a gig with those sounds.
@CyberneticArgumentCreator
@CyberneticArgumentCreator Год назад
Sounds great. Way different dynamics but the EQ and clipping are very very close.
@deanhewlettguitar5119
@deanhewlettguitar5119 5 месяцев назад
Sounds amazing. is capture uploaded? I can't see it on the cloud Cheers Dean
@ianstake402
@ianstake402 Год назад
well done!!
@SLASHMPI
@SLASHMPI Год назад
Love thia video
@yomamaa13
@yomamaa13 Год назад
I need this capture!
@jspmusic7938
@jspmusic7938 2 года назад
Hi Paul, is there a possibility you could upload the capture on the Cortex Cloud? I am just in love with that sound..
@Migler1
@Migler1 2 года назад
My suggestion is to increase the mids on the cortex just a little bit to get it more simular.
@Johnmannish
@Johnmannish 3 года назад
Amazing. Please make a DI capture of that amp and share it so i can use it with my cab, please!
@physiciansplaza6557
@physiciansplaza6557 3 года назад
I second that notion!
@NJ-Tech
@NJ-Tech Год назад
Any chance of uploading that capture to your QC cloud? If you dont mind of course, thats a wonderful tone!
@SomeDudeDan
@SomeDudeDan 3 года назад
Awesome! Could you please share the capture of this amp on the Cortex mobile app? Thanks in advance!
@MrNastyguitar
@MrNastyguitar 2 года назад
Sounds like you adjusted the Plexi to sound like the Quad on the last recording you did, both sound like there was a blanket covering them, where before it was wide open and clear for the Plexi
@deepestpurple
@deepestpurple 2 года назад
Nice work and playing! Do you have this on the QC cloud capture?
@ryanstark9326
@ryanstark9326 2 года назад
Hey! Great video, so you have a overdrive on your plexi too or is that the sound direct without any effects?
@jasonkerr931
@jasonkerr931 Год назад
Can you post this capture on your profile in Neural Cloud? What a tone!
@prodantech
@prodantech 5 месяцев назад
I wonder how the Quad Cortex compares to the UA Lion for Marshall tones. Not just from the raw standpoint but also how the units respond to your playing, simulate edge of breakup and that kinda stuff.
@VladiVladiG
@VladiVladiG Год назад
Hi, great comparison and great tone matching. Do you happen to have the capture of your amp on the Cortex Cloud? If so, let us know which one it is. It sounds bitchin! Thanks!
@DougErapps
@DougErapps 2 года назад
the Cortex gets close but has a persistent blanketed (blanket over the speakers)/slightly- muffled tone. Missing the openness of the actual amp.
@mightymikeamps9317
@mightymikeamps9317 Год назад
Is your signal chain guitar>A/B switch> Marshal or QC > interface?>DAW with Delay and reverb Or are you getting your delay reverb and mic pre somewhere else? Also do you use any compression? Sorry for the million questions, but you have such a consistently high quality tone no matter what you use, and I really want to improve.
@fftbbald
@fftbbald 2 года назад
Please share that capture!
@eoinc4091
@eoinc4091 Год назад
Hi Paul, thanks for the vid! How does the Studio 20watt compare to the Plexi 1959slp ?
@kenmasters007
@kenmasters007 2 года назад
The capture was sooo much better than the preset. Did you still have any of the latency issues with the capture?
@zwip778
@zwip778 3 года назад
Your playing is sublime. You should teach your style of playing. Did the capture also feel different under your fingers or just the modeling? I’ve just ordered an FM3 and hopefully the feel is there.
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Hi Anna, thanks! It still does feel different, it’s a small thing but it is there. Good luck with the FM3 I hear it’s great.
@andrehughes1
@andrehughes1 2 года назад
The plexi sounds better in every way. Will the audience notice, after eq and chorus and delay and processing? No. That makes the Quad Cortex worth it.
@IndyRockStar
@IndyRockStar 2 года назад
For me the Quad Cortex is a chance (probably my only chance) to have a $100,000 dollars in amps without actually having to buy them. It's so close that most cannot tell the difference in blind test. I think the main difference you're hearing is the volume. People have a built in bias to automatically think louder is better.
@intargc
@intargc Год назад
It's not always 100% about the audience. In most instances, the audience won't care if you're playing through a 1992 Line 6 solid state amp. They just want to hear the rhythm and the vocals of the songs they like. As long as it's there, they're usually happy, barring few people that can really discern the differences. Your amp and guitar have a very clear and defined relationship that involves more than just "does it sound like that amp I like." The amp provides character, feel, and response. These things are what inspire us to play certain licks, rhythms, styles, etc... So pick the amp that inspires you the most based on all of those characteristics, not just "omg people that don't play an instrument will never know the difference."
@Utubesup7890
@Utubesup7890 Год назад
@@IndyRockStar amps are always better and depending on the amp they take pedals better but… this is the best modeler I’ve ever had in feel, sound, UI, no computer needed just a cell. Compact and cool factor. The plug in whiners don’t realize neural already put a lot of those captures in there already. The whiners just don’t want to put out the money or move away from their computers. Meanwhile, the people that literally have signature plug ins are using the actual quad on stage. Pro or not, I love it.
@knockknock3686
@knockknock3686 3 года назад
Paul great vid .. bloody funny too ..
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Cheers knock knock
@spencercarter8008
@spencercarter8008 3 года назад
Hi Paul, have you ever tried a Marshall origin? It's unwieldy and lifeless at low volume, but my goodness when you open that master volume up, it's gotta be up with the finest Marshall tones I've ever heard. Run into a power soak and pushed, it's equal parts exquisite and furious.
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Hi Spencer, I haven’t, I’ll see if they can loan me one to review.
@jeffarowbat6385
@jeffarowbat6385 2 года назад
Great video! which speakers do you have in your divided by 13 cab?
@karlhouseknecht
@karlhouseknecht 2 года назад
What is the Marshall running through for mic and cab? Real cab and mic or a load and IR/cab emulation? Direct out?
@jonathankrieger9121
@jonathankrieger9121 Год назад
Will your capture of the Plexi be available for other Quad Cortex Users?
@szymonszymanski3
@szymonszymanski3 Год назад
Hi Paul, could you upload this to the QC cloud please?
@rylovengeance
@rylovengeance 2 года назад
Pleeeeeeasseeeee post this capture!!!
@robh1780
@robh1780 2 года назад
The real SV20 20 plexi is just so perfect and delicious. I would not mind having the Neural DSP for experimenting in Studio,
@neildeakin4454
@neildeakin4454 Год назад
Bloodyhell, just ordered the DSP on the strength of this video.
@guitarlife6190
@guitarlife6190 8 месяцев назад
When you did your capture did you use a load box or did you mic your cab straight into the Cortex?
@zoomzoom3950
@zoomzoom3950 Год назад
Having the real amp you like is great for AB comparisons for modeling. Most modern modelers can get close, except the feel.
@Utubewrk123
@Utubewrk123 Год назад
I agree. I love my amps and pedals but the quad is the best feeling and sounding modeler out there right now. With the best UI. I’m glad I’m no longer tied to a computer as well. Amps will always come first though with pedals as I’ve said.
@zoomzoom3950
@zoomzoom3950 Год назад
@@Utubewrk123 Still have and buy tube amps, and if I could actually use them as designed I'd transport them. I've owned many modelers including Vox, Boss, Fractal, Line 6, they all were good at the time, but like most technologies they continue to improve in many ways. My main modeler now is a Boss SY-1000. However, I'm building a small, portable wireless rig around the Mooer Prime P1, the sounds are very good, but there's very little feel. All in all, for the price and size, I can make it work. Fits in a lunchbox size carry case, with 2 wireless systems, wireless in-ears, footswitch, cables and USB charger. Even fits my Tech 21 PSA 2.0.
@eoinc4091
@eoinc4091 Год назад
8:09 I remember what computer games sounded like that 😂
@bartlettpsj
@bartlettpsj 2 года назад
Noticed you are doing some other processing.. There is delay and reverb, yet the QC doesnt have that set.
@Tone5DP777
@Tone5DP777 2 года назад
I think the actual amp sounds more alive. The Neural Plexi is very good, but it has that a little bit of that muted horn tone.
@MacGregor88
@MacGregor88 Год назад
I notice there is reverb and delay on the Cortex, where is that coming from? Are you using any other external gear that is affecting the sound?
@gabrielxgtr
@gabrielxgtr 3 года назад
Amazing video! I’ve just subscribed to your channel!! May I ask you something? If I use the scene mode (A-B-C-D), I can use E-F-G-H as stomps? Thanks!
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Hi Gabriel. As far as I know??? that’s not possible yet. But I could be wrong.
@gabrielxgtr
@gabrielxgtr 3 года назад
@@TheStudioRats No problem!! Thank you so much. Cheers!!
@r.llynch4124
@r.llynch4124 3 года назад
QC is awesome and the amp sounds killer too. Can you please share this capture?
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Cheers RL. Will do.
@MeTuLHeD
@MeTuLHeD 3 года назад
Hey...a question occurred to me. When you did the capture at 9:16, how was the Cortex connected? Did you use a mic on the cab, or did you run a signal out of the amp into the Cortex?
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
it was miced. cheers.
@MeTuLHeD
@MeTuLHeD 3 года назад
@@TheStudioRats So wouldn't that mean you capturéd not just the amp, but the cab as well?
@evetsiksatu
@evetsiksatu 3 года назад
Not sure how you can be in the same room with the Marshall levels set that high--even in half power mine starts shaking the walls through my closed back Orange cab!
@finnjeff
@finnjeff 2 года назад
I believe he was attenuating the Plexi with his Boss tube amp expander.
@lordviewer7305
@lordviewer7305 3 года назад
How awesome is this comparison. Gotta love that Plexi that spongy feel is still not in the model amp, altough the capture of the real amp got so close, especially those low mids. Fantastic, I would also be able to rock with the model on the Cortex it sounds fantastic.
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats 3 года назад
Cheers Lord, the Marshall is such a killer little amp.
@Utubewrk123
@Utubewrk123 2 года назад
It feels to me the most like an amp. Comparing them it to the Kemper and helix, the quad wins in feel, sound, UI ease of use. Love it. Amps will always come first and pedals but that quad is something else. I had begun to really dislike modelers until I gave in and bought the quad.
@iancurrie8844
@iancurrie8844 Год назад
They sound completely different to me. Especially that last week.
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