Marsupial Tigers Still Exist! (If Not, They'll Be Back Soon) - Phylogeny of Marsupials 

That's so exciting! Congrats!

Careful where you buy it from. Reach Out Reptiles gave snakes to a convicted animal abuser

Did you go for a morph or a locality?! I'm torn in between the 2!

Do not worry about the marsupial tiger! African boi,Galante is on it! A painted dingo will suffice...

Love my tiger from Reach Out Reptiles, just watch out for that food response! lol

That's so interesting!

How did she react? I'm really interested!

Most mornings we watch a few videos while having breakfast and then she sits close and solicits some scritches. Usually if something on the screen upsets her, she'll scream to warn her flock (me), flap her wings loudly, and climb back to her cage, the same reaction as a real threat, like seeing a hawk out the window. This is common enough that we have vocabulary for it: "it's ok, it's just TV." She usually calms down as we chant this and returns for more scritches. When the Tasmanian tiger appeared on the screen, she became very quiet and climbed away before screaming, and wouldn't come back down. Every time it showed up again, she seemed torn between screaming and flapping to alert the flock and being very quiet and hiding for self-preservation. She didn't return to relaxed behaviors at the cage, wouldn't say that it was just TV, but kept watching intensely and crouching quietly. I pulled the cage cover to block her view, but she peeked around to keep an eye out for the predator. I tried to coax her down so I could comfort her, but she was on alert until the video was over and her favorite cockatoo's daily video started.

@@glendas.mckinney926 "but she was on alert until the video was over and her favorite cockatoo's daily video started." awww so cute, i feel so bad for her haha

​@@glendas.mckinney926I was almost inclined to ask how old she is since they are long lived and this was somewhat extinction...

And it was so depressing too. They ever populated zoo around the world and even have offspring in captivity. Yet that still not enough to save their species from extinction

They are bizarrely unnerving to watch. Something about them is so prehistoric looking

I thought I was the only one who thought it hit uncanny vibes! Like it somewhat gives off fantasy vibes for me, idk.

im from Tasmania and im convinced i saw one when i was down south. the south west quarter of Tasmania is dense rainforest & is virtually untouched so many of us suspect they are down there.

@@Freemanjacobt i hope so

Fellow Tasmanian here, it's just so weird that these creatures went extinct so recently too. Like they're still within living memory to a lot of people still alive, albeit an older generation, today. It's certainly exciting news that's on the horizon with attempts to clone and revive the species, but the question does remain just because we can, does it mean we should? Personally, I'd love to see a living Thylacine.

Another fellow Tasmanian here,' They' are not extinct !

@@Tasforestworker Well, you’re going to have to back that claim up 😄

I can only direct you to 'Thylacine awareness group of australia' for some trail cam fotos from Tas and mainland videos as well as testimony from many people recorded from ALL over oz not just Tas. I know what i saw and more than likely have a very good handle on the Tas bush compared to most if not all on this site. If you have a closed mind nothing myself or any other witness will change your thoughts. Literally hundreds of witnesses post supposively the extinction date plus thousands of plaster casts of prints and poo and fir samples ...its starts to build up. I might add from first hand , a poo sample collected from Tas was sent to Adelaide Uni . For DNA testing and it came back as Numbat ????? No numbats in Tas and it just so happens numbats are closest related species and they didn't know/want to test for thylacine.

@@Tasforestworker yeah...right

Is this the best pet mammal? Well no, because it's eating me right now, but I'm so priviliged to be the first person to be eaten by the resurrected masupial tiger, wow guys, this is just rad!

I vote for the Quoll as best pet mammal.

It makes me so happy!!!

@@ClintsReptilesone little complaint tho... you said dipro(to)dont missing one syllable many times!

Where were you when I was filming this????

Sometimes I just forget that this is a college level explanation, this video is very easy to understand

Actually, I think this went into a lot more detail on marsupial taxonomy than I got doing a biology degree. Then again, there wasn't a lot of information offered on mammals, and the detail on different mammal groups focused on those found in BC, Canada. Which includes exactly one marsupial, the virginia opossum.

I love them so much!

Aww, what a special moment. I'll never forget a moment when a baby racoon we freed from nasty jaw trap held my finger in his tiny "hands" and tried to chew it for comfort. Interactions with wild animals are so special, I felt like a Disney princess, being allowed so close. That possum must have been used to humans, who knows, maybe they enjoyed the affection enough not to let fear overcome them :)

It was probably scared stiff hahaha

My dog kept trying to fight the opossum that hangs out here until we told him it was "just an ugly cat" He has only tried to befriend it since, and now it doesn't even try to get away from us humans 😂 they're adorable dorks

@@characterblub2.0 My Mom used to feed our farm cats their cat food on top of the air conditioner to keep the dogs from getting it. One night the dogs really set up a clamor so Dad goes out to see what's happening. There's this opossum up there eating cat food! Dad tries to get him down and he bites Dad, so we had to trap and observe it for a month to make sure it's behavior didn't change (chance of rabies?) So this silly opossum gets fed cat food and dinner table scraps, as well as garden scraps since we were busy canning tomatoes and pickles at the time, and peaches. A month of this, and we turned him loose then almost couldn't get him to leave, LOL, and he was fat and sassy--and didn't have rabies, thank God. They are adorable dorks indeed, but can be annoying as well.🤣

I mean, New Guinea and parts of Tasmania are very unexplored and unknown because of thick jungle

@@IMADINOSAURNOTABIRD They've done a lot of environmental DNA studies throughout Tasmania though. I wish it were true too, but I wouldn't hold out hope. New Guinea on the other hand, I say we set up trail cams and do enviro-DNA studies there. Even if we don't find Thylacines, rainforest biomes are teeming with bio-diversity and therefore perfect for discovering new species. New Guinea is still definitely under-explored and researched.

@@TheMageOfVoid Great points. I especially agree with the New Guinea part, because I mean things like orangutans live near there, what other amazing, unique creatures like those may lurk within the thick forest. New Guinea is also one of the few jungle strongholds left in the world, beside the Congo and Amazon. It’s sad to see all the rainforest and the diversity carried with it disappearing as a result of human greed.

@@IMADINOSAURNOTABIRD Nonsense, but I admire wishful thinking.

That's how I feel when I look at the list of animals that have gone extinct because of humans. ;_; There are so many of them. Probably for every species we've brought back from the brink there are several species that didn't make it.

A million times Yes to every phylogeny video

Completely Agree! ANY VIDEO❣️

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That's a really fun idea!

@@ClintsReptilesI feel like it would be a great collaboration with thought potato.

Quetzalcoatl: Best pet winged snake?

Other channels like TreyTheExplained have already done that though, and no offence but I think this channel should stick to science and reality.

"Monstrum" On the channel Storied is this, except the phylogeny. They discuss the creature, myths, and culture that caused the myth to be created.

I don't live in Australia, but I agree with this person that a lot of the world doesn't understand the reptiles in Australia because they stopped exporting them a long time ago so the few that we have in captivity don't really represent the full species. We also tend to have a lot of misconceptions that change the way that we care for the animals outside of Australia that have long been corrected in Australia but have never really left that country and I think the animals in these other countries would benefit a lot from that information. Dav Kaufman has done a lot with busting myths about various pet reptiles by visiting their native habitat so he would be a good person to collaborate with for at least one trip to Australia. But if I'm being completely honest, multiple trips to Australia to cover a variety of different species in their many different habitats and talk about the differences between the wild populations in Australia, the captive populations in Australia, and the captive populations outside of Australia would be of great benefit to a lot of people.

Wait a few more decades and climate change may introduce some of that biodiversity to civilisation. It would probably take the form of a lovely hemorrhagic fever or some such highly contagious kill-em-quick delight.

Preach,!

What about the places where humans still occupy their traditional niche?

@carlosandleon Yes and New Guinea is one of those places!

There's a whole group of people that claim to have spotted them. There's a community like Bigfoot hunters that have RU-vid videos about finding a Thylacine.

Also, let me know if you ever want to go ahead with that Diprotodontid video. I have a Thylacoleo carnifex skull cast that you absolutely MUST include so you can get a good look at their teeth. They are insane. Trust me.

I love your channel ❤

Omg this is so cool seeing that paleoanalysis commented on clint's video and he liked it. Should I be concerned that this was one of the best parts of my week lol.

@@FQT_Keller-Ash No. this is awesome

Love both your channels!

It still boggles my mind, ever since I first experienced it at university, that there are paleontologists who can take a single molar and instantly tell you whether the extinct animal was a marsupial, placental, or multituberculate (which were super common mammals in the Cretaceous and Paleocene that may not be either metatherians or eutherians).

They make good pets too, but only live 2 years. Unlike all other rodents, they can be house-trained.

Agreed 💯

Their short life span is truly tragic. Similar with rats. They're like little puppies but only live for a couple years :( Also quokkas are so amazing, their little faces are the cutest.

@@suchnothing we need a captive breeding program for opossums, then we can create a long-lived morph of opossums.

I have a long-running disagreement with my husband about opossums. He hates/is terrified of them. I think they’re so ugly they’re cute and very beneficial to the ecosystem. They’re basically frontline warriors against Lyme disease because of all the ticks they eat!

@@suchnothing guinea pigs are tragic. my little brother had one. for like two years. she was an albino, which didn't help, and she also preferred lettuce to kibble, which also didn't help in retrospect (i later found out that lettuce and celery are useless veggies with insufficient nutrients even for humans)

and if i might add a suggestion... do more maps to show how the clade originated from asia/americas with the corresponding continental arrangements of the period. these visual aids really help us lay masses remember better!

You should know that there are twenty-five extant families of carnivorans: Canidae (Dogs), Ursidae (Bears), Ailuropodidae (Giant Panda), Phocidae (Seals), Cystophoridae (Hooded Seal and Elephant Seals), Otariidae (Sea Lions and Fur Seals), Odobenidae (Walrus), Mephitidae (Skunks and Stink Badgers), Procyonidae (Raccoons and Bassarisks), Ailuridae (Red Panda), Nasuidae (Coatis, Kinkajou, Olingos, and Olinguito), Melidae (Badgers), Mustelidae (Weasels, Ferrets, and Minks), Lutridae (Otters), Ictonychidae (Zorillas, Muishund, Shulang, Huro, Grisons, Wolverine, Tayra, and Martens), Felidae (Cats), Protelidae (Aardwolf), Hyaenidae (Hyenas), Nandiniidae (Feripaka), Prionodontidae (Linsangs), Poianidae (Oyans), Genettidae (Genets), Viverridae (Civets), Herpestidae (Mongooses), and Eupleridae (Malagasy Carnivorans).

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You may be, but it is not that impossible. Just like with mammoths or other ancient creatures, they can be much closer then we ever hoped.

I've got a friend of mine who loves this animal as much as you do and who has confessed to me of wanting it to be brought back pretty bad. He introduced me to the Tasmanian Tiger and is probably the reason I am watching this video.

A lot of thylacine habitat is still intact though. After all, they were killed off primarily by hunting and disease, not habitat destruction, and they were not dependent on old growth forests.

In the suburbs of Perth, the Quenda (Southern Brown Bandicoot) is a regular backyard visitor. I've had them come in the house to feed on spilt birdseed.

The only one I ever saw was the stuffed one near the entrance of the museum in Hobart. I used to visit regularly and would just stand and stare at it. Last time I visited it was gone. I was very disappointed.

It will never work and even if it works for some species these will not have a viable habitat for a reintroduction so what is the point in bringing them back? Rather focus on saving the biodiversity we still have today

There are some ethical questions, but, lets set them aside as there is some even bigger one, do we have enough unrelated specimen to set up sustainable population and prevent inbreeding?

I agree this is a practical issue for many of the extinct species they try to bring back. However, the impact of inbreeding on the survival of a species/population highly depends on the organism. Some do well with very few founders, and others do not deal well with inbreeding at all. For me, the bigger question is how to best conserve the biodiversity we still have today with the limited resources available. Scientist claiming that the cloned mammoth will be able to roam free in Alaska and Siberia are delusional. This will never happen for many reasons. So, de-extinction is a pure theoretical possibility but can never be a feasible solution to save and bring back biodiversity on a planet that faces rapid climatic changes and large-scale habitat destruction. It would be a very wrong signal for society if de-extinction works, as it would suggest that it does not matter if we drive species to extinction if we can bring them back with a DNA sample.

@@hobbybrauer De-Extinction has always been interesting to me for the reasons you addressed; should we bring the animals back, what sort of world are we reintroducing them to? Would they thrive given we're already driving so many other species to extinction with the consequences of our actions? Is it ethical to bring an extinct animal back knowing they'll be the only ones of their kind, essentially limiting their opportunity for life to scientific research? What would it mean to reintroduce these species to the wild and what effect would their presence have on already precarious ecosystems? I would be cool, but I think we need to address some other problems (climate change and rampant pollution) before we take the plunge into bringing these animals back in earnest - we can still run the experiments on a back burner because it's no doubt a useful thing we should be doing (gotta retain species destroyed by poaching and human carelessness somehow), but we need to make the world a more sustainable, hospitable place first.

@@hobbybrauer I think that we do not have one single solution how to preserve biodiversity as it is threatened by different factors in different place of the world. We have to have different solution for places where the pollution is main issue, where bad agricultural practices are problem, where overfishing is problem and so on. Issues in Europe and Northern America will require different approaches than problems in e.g. Northern Africa and in Northern Africa issues are different than in central Africa. And the issues can vary between countries and regions in given country. Regions that are overusing their water resources will need different solution than regions where biodiversity is threatened by logging and so on. I would not be that critical of habitat destruction as destruction of one type can lead to creation of different one. For example open pit mines and quarries are often places where endangered species can thrive as those provide otherwise uncommon habitats. But in general I would say that the response to most of the problems we have is use of available technology that will lead to reduced pressure on natural resources, but it will not be entirely without footprint as we simply need some space for water storage, some place to put desalination plant and plants that will deal with waste, as well we need some navigable rivers, some space for highways and somewhere where we can mine necessary resources. At the same time we must accept that the Earth is highly dynamic system and that the climate and environment changes and there are some aspects of this that are out of our control and thus we can't keep the world from change as some sort of museum exhibit. Regarding to de-extinction, I don't think that people would say: "Oh it is OK if we hunt them to extinction, we can bring them back anytime we want to." I see it rather as a tool to fix mistakes from the past when ecology was not yet well understood.

Well, in Australia Christmas is in summer. It's stinking hot but we still have displays featuring Santa with his sleigh and reindeers in the snow ⛄😂

​@@redplanet7163I have seen footage of Aussie Santa wearing red shorts, and at least once, he came ashore on a surf board!

Actually declared extinct in 1986 as is the norm. Fifty years after the last live specimen died.

That’s not a great reference why don’t you just say the range of years

Yes, THIS. ❤

Thats true… The recent exclusion of stem-mammals from Reptiles is just nonsense to me… Birds are reptiles, so are we mammals. Who could say that that ancient scaled, hardshelled-egg-laying, lizard-like creature that gave rise to all amniotes wasnt a reptile??

@@danielarato4021 Well said, even the clade containing amniotes and the extinct tetrapods that were more closely related to amniotes than to modern amphibians is called "reptilliomorpha" and many of the stem-amniotes were lizard-like in appearance.

Yay for eutherian Clint!

Clint is an animal. The misconception that humans are not animals is the worst misconception in all of biology.

😊thanks!

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My parents have friends who live out near Mudgee, NSW. Lots of locals around there are certain they've seen thylacine. National Parks and Wildlife are aware. I mean, if the Wollemi pines could stay hidden from humans since the last ice age, imagine what an animal capable of running and hiding could do in the rugged, almost inaccessible places where the pines were found.

​@@LuubelaarLots of people have also seen Big Foot. Is it possible a small population survived somewhere? Yes. But it is extremely unlikely, especially given the extensive efforts over the decades to try and find any solid evidence of them.

Collect the toothpaste into a pressure vessel, attach the empty toothpaste tube and pressurise the toothpaste and force it into the tube. Too much will cause the tube to pop and the place would look like a demonitised video.

@@Tuck-Shop ok that last part genuinely made me “LOL”. 🤣❤️👍

@@glorygloryholeallelujah Thank you. It always brings me joy knowing I made someone laugh.

It'll be tricky, but I do believe it is possible its just a matter of finding the right surrogate or artificially creating a "pouch" for them to survive in. Either way it's fascinating and exciting to think that a recently extinct (or deeply hidden) species could come back.

As a Tasmanian I know that a lot of Tasmania is covered in extremely dense bush/forest, all the Thylacene has to do is just retreat so far inland away from human populations to be kept a complete secret/hidden from most people. It's why so many people who regularly go deep into the bush claim they have seen them, because its so far out of the way and they rarely bring back any footage/photos its enough to sew doubt into people. But after a while, you have to wonder or start to hope that they're out there somewhere, just hidden away out of sight.

@@BrightWulph Not even to mention that the expeditions launched so far have been by hobbiests or were short-term camera trap observation studies, definitely nothing thourough or comprehensive enough to say that they aren't out there.

@bustavonnutz Exactly, all it'll take is dedicated research and time to set up a long-term expedition. Technology has come a long way since the 80's, the data is out there, it just needs the funds.

I think dragons, griffons, and centaurs would all have to be related, even though they look super different, because they all have 6 limbs instead of 4. It would be fun to discuss how a vertebrate got to 6 limbs in the first place. Did their upper limbs split into two somehow?

@@suchnothing Wyverns are often treated as cousins of dragons, and thus not true dragons, which would suggest they did have common ancestor that the two split from quite some time ago.

Reminds me of when he praised the griffon skeleton in his latest Halloween decorations video.

​@dracone4370 wyvern are probably just dragons that lost one pair of limbs, just like some lizards have lost one or both pairs of limbs.

I'd be willing to take a young thylacine and have it raised by an adopted stray dog.

- John Smith (yes that one) describing an opossum.

I know that quote!

Yeah, the videos I've seen it looked like it had a barren enclosure and was doing a lot of repetitive behavior, so I figure it wasn't very happy.

@@ettinakitten5047 I believe all the enclosures there were quite stark, as zoos tended to be back then unfortunately. There’s not much left of the zoo today, but what does remain looks pretty awful for the creatures that were kept there.

Thank you so much! What did you get?

@@ClintsReptiles birds are reptiles shirt epic Christmas gift

I really want to get one of those myself!

@@ClintsReptiles cool

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