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martha is dead is story and ending explained. Martha is dead is a psychological horror with Giulia, the protagonist, investigating the mysterious and sudden death of her sister, Martha.
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@gamersault
@gamersault 2 года назад
What a ride the story of this game was. Thanks for suggesting it, because I probably wouldn’t have known of it to go over it
@angelina11tang
@angelina11tang 2 года назад
Thank you for explaining! I just saw the play through recently and been wanting an organized explanation, always fun listening to your videos :)
@ChellePearson
@ChellePearson 2 года назад
I have been trying to find a explain video that I could understand, thanks so much
@damapikowa6191
@damapikowa6191 2 года назад
Remeber that in those times Giulia whould likely be killed in asylum, because of T4 operations lead by germans in war. And she survive long enough because war ended when she arived. I have theory, that her father’s power as general saves Martha anyway - because she could be dead as someone not worthy to be alive.
@nocturneliquid4456
@nocturneliquid4456 2 года назад
There is a good documentary available in Italian, I saw it today - causal discover - after having finished the game days ago. Looks like the Volterra’s psychiatric institute was particularly active during WWII, with a good affluence of people (both who acted like a crazy man to avoid get recruited and who got closed in for others reasons). And wasn’t rare to the institute to receive young children, some for a lifetime. So, this game MIGHT actually be inspired from a real story
@Jinxed_l3mon
@Jinxed_l3mon 2 года назад
I actually kind of pieced the entire lore in a way that I hope makes sense! BIG SPOILER WARNING FOR BOTH MARTHA IS DEAD AND TOWN OF LIGHT!!!! ❌TRIGGER WARNINGS❌FOR SENSITIVE TOPICS SUCH AS: DEATH, ABUSE, MENTAL ILLNESS, MISCARRIAGE, SUICIDAL BEHAVIOR To start off, it’s actually important to note that Wired Production’s first game, Town of Light, is technically a sort of sequel/prequel to Martha is dead. In the game it actually gives some background on Irene, the mother, and explains how she impacted the story. In Town of light, you play as a character named Rene who goes through her memories of the mental institution that Martha herself was placed in at the end of the game. When you go through the old documents talking about the patients sent there, you actually find out Irene was sent there a few years after the birth of Martha. Lore wise, this is how I assume the timeline goes: 1.) Martha is born, Irene having a very traumatic and difficult birth which causes her to become infertile afterwards, which is one of the main factors for her declining mental health. Take in the fact that the ‘medicine’ you find around Martha’s home was basically meth, this explains why Irene started having erratic and abusive behavior towards Martha as a child. This is also explained in Town of Light, and her documents describing Irene as being “a danger to her daughter’ (Yes, singular. This was probably the biggest clue way before Martha is Dead came out). So, being fueled by the medicine and her internalized hatred for Martha causing her infertility, Irene began to heavily abuse Martha- as seen in the puppet show at the end of the game. 2.) This is where the lore begins, seeing as how soon after Martha subconsciously created her alter, Guilia. One of the breaking points for Martha is shown when Irene is shown to have hit Martha with a cane over the head, as shown in the puppet show. The symbolism of her ‘mask’ breaking, along her her lips being sewn shut and her ear being caved in, this scene is a reference to the letter Martha had “written” to Guilia in her lock box, describing how when she was young Irene had done something so terrible that she became “deaf” and stopped speaking entirely. This scene highlights the moment the Guilia alter had been created. 3.) The reason for Guilia being made is simple: Guilia was made to withstand the abuse done by Irene, explaining why Guilia was the only one to remember how terribly Irene had treated her. Martha and Guilia would constantly switch back and fourth, which explains their constant lack of memories concerning the other. If Martha was quiet and good, she’d remember the good memories, but if she switched to Guilia when their mother was acting out, she’d remember the bad memories. Several hints are shown through the story to represent Martha’s DID: The memory loss/blackouts through the game, the whole “mother didn’t like it when we switched clothes/beds”, the reason why Guilia’s room was ‘Locked up’(Guilia never existed, so she would t have a room, it’s the reason we only find the puppet show and nothing else), Guilia making the comment about how she “was Martha’s voice”, even showing how in the puppet show when you play as Guilia and get in trouble for smashing the vase on the floor the first thing you say is “Martha made me do it.” Guilia was the shield, the one to take the brunt for Martha growing up, so that way Martha wouldn’t really have to go through the abuse. 3.) Moving on with the story, it’s obvious to see that Martha’s condition only made the abuse worse, Irene probably thinking that Martha was acting out and causing trouble on purpose. This leads us to the disturbing scene that explains why Irene was sent to the asylum back in Town of Light. Irene, at her breaking point, forces Martha/Guilia to eat her own pet dog, as shown in the puppet show. This is the reason why at the beginning, Martha or ‘Guilia’ was sent to stay with the Nanny, and why Guilia has such a strong bond with her. While Irene was getting help at the asylum, Martha would be taken care of until Irene was deemed healthy enough to be sent back home. While it’s not shown how much the asylum mentally helped out Irene, it can be deduced that Irene did in fact stop abusing Martha. Still, the damage had already been done and Martha would forever be changed, which would eventually lead up the tragic story we have before us. 4.) Now I’ll try my best to explain the ‘death’ of Martha. It’s obvious that the alter Guilia possessed romantic feelings for Lapo, her boyfriend and I guess by default, also Martha’s. In Lapo’s final letter to Guilia it’s hinted that he was one of the only ones who also knew about her DID condition writing about how “he felt he was the only one who could tell the two apart”. While I’m not sure how this played out in his relationship with Martha, it can probably be guessed that perhaps the Guilia alter probably spent more time with Lapo and had greater feelings for him than Martha. However, this now bring us to the second biggest plot twist in the game: the pregnancy. The letter hidden in Martha’s box goes to explain how Martha had sex with Lapo and became pregnant. Since the alters are technically two separate people( at least that’s how Martha interpreters her alters) Martha took this as her cheating with Guilia’s boyfriend and become insanely guilty at having ‘betrayed’ her sister. So guilty, that Martha had made a plan to essentially ‘kill herself’ and rid herself of the guilt by telling her mother in hopes that she would be murdered so that Guilia would live a better life when they ‘switched places’ (yes I know it a bit confusing if you don’t have all the clues yet). However, we’re hit by the tragic truth that either way, Martha/Guilia suffered from a miscarriage in a later chapter, as shown when she wakes up to her sheets and private area covered in blood. While it’s not really described as to how it happened, I guessed that the ‘medicine’ was probably the cause of it, seeing how once again- it was meth she was taking. Specifically, Martha(it’s shown when we see Martha’s box and see the medicine in there). It’s why Guilia is confused when she wakes up, thinking she just had an early period, not knowing that she had been taking the medicine and unknowingly gave herself an abortion as Martha. Very sad when you piece it all together :(
@Jinxed_l3mon
@Jinxed_l3mon 2 года назад
5.) I’ll start wrapping it up now. So now that we have most of the clues pieced together it now takes us post ‘Martha’s death.’ Essentially we’re now left with the Guilia alter, the Martha core now “gone” (or maybe not depending on how you interpret the ending scene). The Guilia alter truly believes that her ‘sister’ is dead and gone forever, which steadily declines her mental health and leads to most of the game being consisted of real events and figments of her mind. This is what intrigues me about the game the most: deducting what did and didn’t happen in the game. What was real and what wasn’t? While some scenes we can guarantee did happen: Her family’s passing, the bombing of her town, Lapo’s death, her torture by the soldiers. But then we have the scenes such as: The White Lady, her hallucinations, Martha’s ‘death and funeral’, cutting open Martha’s stomach to find the unborn fetus, the list goes on. For example, while I do think that Martha had ended up killing her mother in a fit of rage (or rather she ended up switching alters mid through the interrogation, which explains why Guilia was distraught and pleaded that ‘it wasn’t her who shot the gun’) I don’t think the whole body dismemberment bit happened. If anything it was a twisted imagery her mind created. 6.) All in all, the big plot twist of Guilia and Martha not being twins- but one person with alters was shocking and unexpected, yet also explained so much in the game. The tape recording of Irene confessing how Martha’s behavior after the lake incident was worrying her and the father, wondering why Martha was suddenly quiet again. Not to mention how the mother had gotten worried after receiving the letter about Guilia being ‘pregnant’, since Irene had hinted that Martha hadn’t switched alters in a long time. And not to mention Irene acting confused/guilty when Martha began talking about Guilia and about how she ‘killed Martha’ and so on. 7.) Finally, I’d like to finish my theory off by exactly explaining why I 100% believe that Martha is the core person while Guilia is the alter. Here is my list of reasons why: •Martha is the first one introduced in the puppet show, Guilia only being seen after her first traumatic experience with her mother •Guilia’s ‘room’ being locked up, symbolizing how she never had a room in the first place •The reason why after the lake incident, Irene calls her Martha instead of Guilia (The whole necklace scene of her putting it on symbolizes this) •An optional scene you can get in the game when you call your doctor: Guilia introduces herself on the phone which makes the nurse whisper on the phone ‘Doctor, it’s that strange girl again.’ (A hint that Irene had already informed the asylum of Martha’s case) •❌Trigger warning❌: At the end of the game when given the option to watch the scene of Martha’s suicide attempt, we see her use the sharp edge of what looks to be a dog tag necklace. While her thumb covers up most of the tag, you can clearly see that the name begins with an ‘M’ (showing us without a doubt it was Martha who was checked in) All in all, I personally believe that this game had an amazing plot design. The sense of mystery a tragic story telling kept me on my toes the entire time. It was a brilliant mix of suspense yet peaceful moments. The beautiful scenery of 1900’s Italy was wonderful to look at, and made interacting with the world very fun. The plot twist was so unsettling and shocking, yet it was everything I wanted in a horror game. I’ve always been a big fan of minds twisting the horror around us, even if some do find it to be a bit cliche. However, what intrigued me was the rare interpretation of DID, which I feel is a topic that I’ve never really seen in any type of media before. My only complaints that I have are for the game mechanics. Some moments in the game were hard to complete due to the lack of detail on certain missions. Most of the time I ended up having to look up tutorials online to do certain tasks. Some objectives weren’t made clear, and it was a a bit annoying how my map wouldn’t highlight the areas that correlated to them. While I did find the graphics beautiful, sometimes the shadow effects would end up completely blacking out certain parts of the maps(it might of been a me problem though, I was playing on Xbox one and some play throughs I’ve seen have mostly pc povs which looked better to me graphic wise so idk). The bike mechanic was kind of goofy and glitchy, it was hard for me to control so I ended up mostly walking around the map(which I didn’t mind cause the scenery was beautiful to explore and take pictures in). And lastly: the infamous loading screen freeze. Luckily this was something almost everyone else was having trouble with so I’m glad it wasn’t just me. The loading screens were very, very troublesome to sit through. My save system actually ended up not working to the point where I couldn’t load back to my personal saves without my game freezing on me. I actually ended up having to play the game by chapter because the game would only let me go back to the auto saves at the beginning of each chapter. Anyways, I hope you all like my interpretation of the story! Let me now if I messed up any information about the game or timeline and I’ll change it. Have a great day and thanks for reading!!!
@grumpyAF
@grumpyAF 2 года назад
@@Jinxed_l3mon Thank you for such an in-depth analysis. Wanted to ask you, what do you think about the cloth Martha found in the cellar? I've noticed that Lapo's handkerchief on his arm was the same cloth as well as Irene's dresses in puppet theater
@Jinxed_l3mon
@Jinxed_l3mon 2 года назад
@@grumpyAF Thank you! That’s actually something I kinda of passed over during my theory, so thanks for bringing it up! First concerning Lapo, I kind of studied the cloth wrapped around his arm during the cutscene and I don’t think it’s directly connected to Irene’s fabric. The fabric Irene uses is definitely smoother looking and had a certain pattern to it while Lapo’s was more rough around the edges and plain, though it may be because he was a soldier who was part of the revolution. I actually did some research and the color red had a big impact during the war for what the shade symbolized. War wise- red would symbolize blood and sacrifice along with courage, which would go well with Lapo’s character since he sided with the rebellion against the upcoming Nazi germany. However, the color red has also been known to represent attracted attention, sin, murder, sexuality, guilt, and sacrifice. Throughout the game Irene has always been linked with the color red, as seen with the fabric thrown in her bin and the dress her puppet wears in the show. The color itself has always been eye catching on its own, especially in such a bleak game such as Martha is dead, where we’re never really introduced to such bright and vibrant colors. However, going back to what I previously said about red having multiple meanings, I assumed that perhaps the symbolism of sin, guilt, murder, and even sacrifice play heavily into her character. Especially when you take into account on how the Guilia alter was very adamant about Irene being involved with Martha’s ‘murder’. Add this with the fact that the particular shade of red fabric seems to be one that Irene had worn frequently within the past, so much that Irene even had a personal number who would supply her with this particular fabric (one of the optional phone calls shows that Irene is very close friends with the woman who gives her it). My guess is that the color red has probably always been something connected to Irene since Martha was young, especially since it’s the same color Irene wore when she abused her. However, the one mystery that I’m not 100% sure of is if Guilia really did find her mother’s red cloth both at the lake and caught in the river next to her home. Personally, my theory is that it was her mind playing tricks on her in order to place the blame onto Irene. Faced with her ‘sisters’ ‘murder’ Guilia was at an impasse when she struggles to find evidence on who could have done it. Then coincidentally, the same crow we had saw in the cut scene before who had killed off the sparrow(a symbolism for death himself coming to bring Guilia to her fate that she had cheated before) shows itself out of nowhere and leads her to the fabric by the river. The perfect symbolism of death once again leading the protagonist to the inevitable death that awaits in her future. While the loss wasn’t for Guilia herself, the act of the bird leading us to the red fabric brings us the most infamous meaning of the color: death. Specifically, the death of Irene herself by Martha’s hand.
@Sweettormentt
@Sweettormentt 2 года назад
@@Jinxed_l3mon Wooow thank you so much for this! I actually enjoyed reading your theory and tbh, it gave me a sense of "calmness" in terms of knowing there's an ending 😂 because i spent way too much time trying to figure out a logical ending, it was a little bit frustrating to think that oh, this was all in her head (the end). But your details made it way more interesting AND made sense! I was also wondering about whether or not you think there mightve been a mirror at the end of "Guilia's" room, in order to make it look like there are 2 identical rooms? If you know what I mean, because I'm thinking why would her parents encourage the other alter to this extent, by having a completely separate room with the same furniture! But I dunnoo, im so confused! And also the piano part where she said her mom yelled at her for "pleasing herself" and im just like, what significance does that add to the story? Thank you soooo much again for the time and effort you put in explaining this !
@Jinxed_l3mon
@Jinxed_l3mon 2 года назад
@@Sweettormentt Hi!! Thanks for liking my theory! And to answer your question I actually really like the whole mirror theory to make it look like there are two rooms for both Martha and Guilia! Especially since mirrors/reflection do seem to hold a big impact at symbolizing Martha’s DID through the game(Her 3rd journal page, the way Gulia’s picture she’d taken for Martha’s picture frame is shown to never be there when she wakes up in a later chapter). It actually made me realize something really interesting about the whole room situation as well! I just noticed that both Martha and Guilia’s rooms each have their own separate color schemes- Martha having blue and Guilia having red. Guilia having the red scheme is interesting to me bc throughout the game the color red has always been associated for when death was nearby(the red poppies shown when you cut off Martha’s face in the dream, Irene’s dress, the red room, etc) An interesting way at showing how Guilia’s part of the room was probably never real to begin with.
@SkyeMueller
@SkyeMueller 2 года назад
In the German voice acting you can actually kinda hear the switch during the conversation with the mother. Her voice switches from a gentle tone to a very deep growly tone and back.
@SupremeWaffle2021
@SupremeWaffle2021 8 месяцев назад
I can somewhat hear it in this one too. When Giulia speaks, it sounds far different to the words we didn't hear during the blackouts.
@Krypto1201
@Krypto1201 2 года назад
I love how there's REALLY not a SPECIFIC villain. The real reason this all happened is SELFISHNESS. From Martha, Julia, the mom and even the bf. That's the true horror of the game
@tpenoel88
@tpenoel88 2 года назад
Dude, there is no giulia, its all in marthas head, the blackout, the mother hitting her head, the unborn defected 2 head baby, its all telling us that either giulia martha didnt exist, her mother might be abuse her in her childhood, but had to put giulia in asylum because she is a danger to her surrounding
@morganrhodes159
@morganrhodes159 2 года назад
@@tpenoel88 so no ones pregnant
@courtneyfasnd3637
@courtneyfasnd3637 2 года назад
​@@morganrhodes159 Martha and Giulia share the same body, they were pregnant but suffered a miscarriage ( Giulia waking up to the blood) however the two headed fetus was a delusion, representative of their split personalities ( two heads in one body) and possibly Giulia trying to become the sole personality. 39:52
@monelmonelmonel
@monelmonelmonel 2 года назад
@@courtneyfasnd3637 Then why would their parents say they have twins if they share one body
@chocolatecake6940
@chocolatecake6940 2 года назад
@@monelmonelmonel maybe a delusion? As when hearing the mother’s confession she was confused when Giulia (who she thought was martha) said “what did you do to my sister?”
@traviejnr
@traviejnr 2 года назад
The fact that she keeps blacking out indicates she isn’t the only alter present in the system. Either Martha is still an altar that has gone dormant, or Julia and Martha may have even integrated, which occurs commonly when some alters find they would be stronger together rather than split, and seeing as the system refers to Julia as the stronger of the two, it would make sense they have integrated. It is very unlikely for any kind of alter to be violent, that said a persecutor alter may use self defence in the context of self preservation with situations like the mother being killed.
@rastalj4230
@rastalj4230 2 года назад
I guess the Lady is one of the personalities.
@What____778
@What____778 2 года назад
@@rastalj4230 alters are not personalities
@tarobug2560
@tarobug2560 2 года назад
I really don’t think she has DID, honestly. People dealing with DID don’t see alters as separate people walking around alongside them. I’m pretty sure she has schizophrenia, which would also be… unfortunate…. Making mental illness scary isn’t exactly in good taste.
@traviejnr
@traviejnr 2 года назад
Most depictions of D I D aren’t accurate though are they, look specifically at the movies like Split etc, they depict specific alters as extra terrestrial superhumans which we all know is hyperbolic. That said, she is in a mental institution, there’s no way to know whether what she sees is real or if what she sees is the inner world, Either way you are right, it’s definitely not doing any community is any favours by trivialising and making fear out of what is a very serious mental health issues for some@@tarobug2560
@tarobug2560
@tarobug2560 2 года назад
@@traviejnr oh absolutely. If I had been more awake I would have gone into more detail- but my main issues with the DID label were that she sees her ‘sister’ in photographs and in person (albeit she IS an unreliable narrator) and it feels more like a schizoaffective disorder rather than DID. I won’t say I’m uniquely qualified to talk on the subject, but I *do* see myself out of the corner of my eyes on occasion and have been diagnosed with SAD. I am glad we can agree on the game being unkind to those of us who deal with mental illnesses of all sorts though, and while I *will* give it kudos for being a genuinely unsettling game… it’s not… it’s not *good* so to speak. There’s so much media out there that demonizes neurodivergent folk and I really wish we could move past that as a society and present these issues *as they are* in a more educational sense. I enjoyed the game but I didn’t *like* it.
@redisselderei
@redisselderei 2 года назад
I think the sparrow was another way to tell us about main character's DID. 1. In the childhood flashback Giulia says that the nickname Nanny gave her was Sparrow. 2. When she starts investigating her sister's death and takes her father's camera the first task we're given is to take a photo of a sparrow. At first I thought that it was only there to teach the player some of the game mechanics, but it actually played a much bigger role later. 3. The third time the sparrow appears it gets attacked by a crow. Giulia finds the dead bird on her way to Martha's body and decides to bury it with her sister once again recalling how Nanny would call her. This time it creates an obvious link between Giulia and this sparrow. 4. When Giulia cuts Martha's stomach open and takes out the embryo, it's not actually a single organism but cojoined twins with one body and two heads (two minds in one body if you want to interpret it that way). She then places the embryo on Martha's chest just like she did with the sparrow before. So the conclusion is: Giulia = the Sparrow = the Embryo with two heads → Giulia has two "minds" in her body. If all her interactions with Martha's body were just illusions created by her damaged mind, it might be that her subconscious just tried to tell her the truth about herself.
@marku.9644
@marku.9644 2 года назад
I'm pretty Martha is the main person. They only showed the mother giving birth to one daughter, Martha.
@scottthesmartape9151
@scottthesmartape9151 2 года назад
Split personality disorder
@boredom120
@boredom120 Год назад
Thank you for the explanation. 💐
@unslaadkrosis9435
@unslaadkrosis9435 2 года назад
The song playing at the lake scenes is Between Music - Breaking the Surface It is mostly recorded underwater, give it a try it's amazing. Also their other pieces are used in the game
@HeyMishkaTV
@HeyMishkaTV 2 года назад
Thank you! The music is SO CREEPY, I was wondering how it was achieved.
@unslaadkrosis9435
@unslaadkrosis9435 2 года назад
@@HeyMishkaTV My pleasure 😊, i wish them to reach wider audiences
@lilpretzel5629
@lilpretzel5629 2 года назад
Thank you so much!
@chasethemaster3440
@chasethemaster3440 2 года назад
Nice
@shayshields9579
@shayshields9579 2 года назад
i remember this song i found it on fb like 5 years ago i just forgot the title all i know is that it was a underwater band
@exosproudmamabear558
@exosproudmamabear558 2 года назад
For people who say people with D.İ.d is not agressive. You are right neither Martha and Guilia is agressive but she is coming age of 18-20 which is a common age for schzophrenia to come out. And untreated schzophrenia can show agression and paranoia. Which she progressively becomes paranoid and her delusions gets worse and worse.
@yonyon3753
@yonyon3753 2 года назад
THIS!
@mijiah
@mijiah Год назад
this better not be a comment saying people with did are aggressive and that did is the same as schizophrenia
@exosproudmamabear558
@exosproudmamabear558 Год назад
@@mijiah No did is a complete different diagnosis than schzophrenia thats why her schzophrenia comes way after DID symptoms since they are not related.Poor girl is just unlucky af
@hongducle9862
@hongducle9862 2 года назад
I don’t think whoever voices the father gets enough praise his grief made me almost cry it was so real sounding
@chazzbrasiel6704
@chazzbrasiel6704 2 года назад
After playing this myself, I revisited LKA's previous release, "The Town of Light" which revolves around Volterra Psychiatric Hospital. I found a seemingly random, irrelevant paper in one of the rooms which mentions 'Irene E.' It seems that Giulia's mother was once a patient there.
@Jackieeeisvibing
@Jackieeeisvibing 2 года назад
Yeah another comment says it’s kind of an explanation or prequel
@Lavender2005
@Lavender2005 9 месяцев назад
Makes sense
@lunebadru5997
@lunebadru5997 2 года назад
As a person with DID this game... really did an amazing job showing how fragile the mind can be and how trauma never truly goes away. I weeped for Martha/Julia because their mother was never a mother...just a monster
@relek9901
@relek9901 2 года назад
That's how I feel too...and I also have the diagnosis
@mrdee2454
@mrdee2454 2 года назад
@🍙chái ☆彡 Yes people with DID just randomly murder everyone. Mental illness always represented as killers when its very rare
@greenangelynn5774
@greenangelynn5774 2 года назад
@🍙chái ☆彡 well, at least they’re not murdering psychopath this time unlike Hollywood 😒
@mijiah
@mijiah Год назад
i don’t like it at all. it’s just another story about a system that’s crazy and a psychotic killer who hurts themselves and others. it’s no better than any other psycho killer story. it’s disrespectful.
@madblackliam
@madblackliam 2 года назад
"It's Giulia's fault that Martha is death!" "Martha, breakfast is ready!" Me: It's a trap!
@spicybeantofu
@spicybeantofu 2 года назад
Deaf* is the word you're looking for
@soundclouduser1794
@soundclouduser1794 2 года назад
@@spicybeantofu still how would Martha hear her say it’s ready 😭
@-simplicity7551
@-simplicity7551 Год назад
@@soundclouduser1794 because Martha's not really deaf, and the mom knows that
@DarkerGames
@DarkerGames 2 года назад
Very interesting and fascinating and horrifying incredible explanation of Martha’s Dead GamerSault take a break if you want to me and everyone will understand have a fantastic day and keep being an inspiration to everyone that watches you
@norsecommander7862
@norsecommander7862 2 года назад
You are always at gamersault's comment section
@jasontodd5639
@jasontodd5639 2 года назад
@@norsecommander7862 exactly 🤣
@himmel_channel
@himmel_channel 2 года назад
I think that the mother probably gone to depression after the hard birth. I heard that this happens to some women who give birth, that causes them to hurt theirselves or their babies. I am no doctor/psychiatrist so I'm not sure about the deeper details of this. It's not going to excuse the abuse the mother did but as we can see from Martha's tale mental health problems are hard to cure especially during their time. just my 2 cents on the take
@KantankerouslyK
@KantankerouslyK 2 года назад
A lot of mothers, actually. Fathers too, believe it or not. "Baby blues" are fairly common for the first two weeks of pregnancy, but I think what you're referring to is postpartum depression, which is more severe and lasts longer. Sadly, there's a lot of stigma around it, which can make many avoid treatment out of shame, even in the modern day. In some cases, it can lead to abusive behavior, especially if left untreated. Although I cannot stress enough that having postpartum depression does not automatically make anyone a bad parent or that it will make them abuse their children. At the time the game takes place, some women could be put into an asylum for it. Which may explain why Irene was sent there. Although it could also be that Irene already suffered from mental illness, since postpartum depression typically only lasts within the first year (though supposedly it can last up to 3 years), and judging by the puppet show, it seemed her daughter suffered abuse all the way into her childhood. Not a psychiatrist/therapist either, so I may be missing some things. Just someone who's known people who've gone through it and likes to be informative where I can.
@ShantiDoss2000
@ShantiDoss2000 2 года назад
@@KantankerouslyK Do know there is part where she sent to Nanny where her sister was with her mother and well she suffered DID mental disorders so she think like that But in Reality She was in Nanny’s care and her both parents I mean her father at war and mother may possibly admitted to asylum at that time. And she was also child too during that time her mother maybe admitted to asylum.
@himmel_channel
@himmel_channel 2 года назад
@@ShantiDoss2000 @Shanti Joseph Doss that actually makes sense of Irene being sent to the asylum and the nanny being there to take care of mc(sorry still confuse about the whole guilia, martha thing 😅) during their absence, considering in the puppet show we see Irene being with her.
@ShantiDoss2000
@ShantiDoss2000 2 года назад
@@himmel_channel That part of Irene before she was admitted to asylum and if play the role of Nanny we can understand what was happening with MC’s mother.
@SummonerDagger88
@SummonerDagger88 2 года назад
@@ShantiDoss2000 That makes perfect sense, yeah. Also because the doctor tells Irene that she knows how an asylum is like.
@Roaming725
@Roaming725 2 года назад
I didn't take away any message/trope like "a person with DID is dangerous" from this game like some comments suggest. Hallucinations from taking meth, trauma/stresses from childhood abuse, war, pregnancy, and betrayal all took part in how the story unfolded. If anything, I took away that we ought to continue mental health advocacy and R&D and that war is bad.
@lonewolfheart1697
@lonewolfheart1697 2 года назад
Thank you! As a survivor of childhood abuse, the last thing we need to is to have harnful labels put on us. The mind is an incredibly fragile place. Even Irene seemed to acknowledge that what she did was wrong. Rather dismissive to call it nonsense though but that's very realistic too... the abuser downplaying what happened. Anyway, we need to continue to end the stigma of mental health. People have to remember that back then, the asylum was the only place and it wasn't particularly humane or compassionate there back then. Even the message at the very end states that times have changed and whilst Martha/Guilia had nobody to reach out to, that doesn't have to be the case.
@Roaming725
@Roaming725 2 года назад
@@lonewolfheart1697 Yes!!! While far from perfect, I am grateful that I'm living in this time period than any prior era because of the progress we've made in areas such as mental health, modern medicine, and societal acceptance of diversity (in many senses). Martha/Giulia only had poor options and we see what that did to her. As you mentioned, things are different now and I hope we continue to push for better options.
@thibaultbergette7223
@thibaultbergette7223 2 года назад
Abuse = rape Parental violence = child beating
@tartlynerdy
@tartlynerdy 2 года назад
My feelings did cartwheels the whole time. Wow. I freaking love psychological horror/thrillers.
@ixedtea5302
@ixedtea5302 2 года назад
Looking at this game again, it has a VERY good dark representation of fictional D.I.D. Not real D.I.D so dont confuse it. Also the use of puppets to tell the story of her childhood was so good.
@RQ_play
@RQ_play 2 года назад
Well summarized! Great video. --- SPOILER ALERT --- Just completed the game, and once I saw in the puppet theater that only one baby was born and her name was Martha, most of the pieces came together. The awful way Martha was abused by her mother, and how she had to create Giulia, developing a split personality, so there will be someone stronger to protect her. The medallion was another huge clue that only Martha really existed. My heart was absolutely shattered, learning about Martha's sad story, I was crying inside to learn how cruel life was to that poor girl. In addition to the abusive violent treatment from the mother, loosing a baby and her nanny, all that violence she suffered from both sides of the war. At the end I thought that she died, but I'm glad to have learn by watching your video that she didn't. This story moved me and was a well written masterpiece. Still feeling so sad for the pain Martha went through, but that's what a well written game does, make us care about characters.
@yeetopateeto-2290
@yeetopateeto-2290 2 года назад
I had never heard of this game. Very interesting and visceral. The rawness of the story is what makes it so dark. The music is really good too. . Great narration. The story I thought was told In a very clear and understandable way. Love these vids!
@MadaraUchiha-ly8wr
@MadaraUchiha-ly8wr 2 года назад
The song I love the most is she is in the film room developing pictures. I can't get over that song 🎵
@suinegdiagne
@suinegdiagne 2 года назад
@@MadaraUchiha-ly8wr yeah that song so peaceful, I've been looking for the name of that song; Do you have it?
@yeetopateeto-2290
@yeetopateeto-2290 2 года назад
@@suinegdiagne it’s called Ninna nana sette e Venti
@MadaraUchiha-ly8wr
@MadaraUchiha-ly8wr 2 года назад
@@suinegdiagne Make sure you also add the title Martha is dead otherwise you get a older more broken version of the song.
@cisrot
@cisrot 2 года назад
Something that Sony censored which was actually very important to the plot contextual wise was that the narrator wasn’t just harming herself by cutting, but by obsessively pleasuring herself until she would begin to bleed. In my opinion I believe that may be why she woke up with so much blood between her legs on that one day. Another theory is that the blood shown was a miscarriage, however I really think that the inclusion of this very important fact regarding how she would uniquely self harm herself was the cause of the blood. I would have imagined that if it was a miscarriage we could have seen more context clues for it.
@lonewolfheart1697
@lonewolfheart1697 2 года назад
Yes!!! So glad someone else linked those facts together too!! It could've been a miscarriage but given how incessantly she was abusing herself that way in the asylum then it's very likely that is what was happening before she went there. That act is very much a symptom of abuse. As a survivor myself, I also was doing that without understanding it (too young)... never to the point of bleeding but nonetheless, I'm glad that they were brave enough to include that in the end story because it does indeed happen in real life.
@anonymoususer9197
@anonymoususer9197 2 года назад
@@lonewolfheart1697 so I noticed your comment and I just wanna ask something... You don't have to reply if my question is way too personal and I really don't want you to bring up uncomfortable topics but since you seem relatively open with your experience. I just wanna ask if this kind of self pleasuring can happen due to different kinds of abuse or a specific kind. I recall doing such things as a child even compulsively but I cannot recall my early childhood well so I was wondering if the neglect I dealt with could have also been a cause
@lonewolfheart1697
@lonewolfheart1697 2 года назад
@@anonymoususer9197 It's okay. My abuse by my father was sexual in nature so it meant I was sexualised at a very young age. There was also mental and emotional from both my parents as well. I'm sure how specific the abuse needs to be elicit that behaviour from the victim. Sending healing to you.
@anonymoususer9197
@anonymoususer9197 2 года назад
@@lonewolfheart1697 thank you for sharing your experience and I wish you really well. I've just recently been trying to come to terms with my childhood and I've been thinking of going to therapy as I feel like I can't live on like I do currently much longer. It's just that I've been especially trying to come to terms with my past but it's so hard since I can't recall a huge chunk of it. I just wanna say you're really strong. I wish you all the best and thank you again!
@lonewolfheart1697
@lonewolfheart1697 2 года назад
@@anonymoususer9197 I have had a lot of therapy over the years and I would recommend therapy as it can help greatly. You don't need to remember everything to heal. I was once obsessed with trying to remember as I have a lot of black holes in my memory but therapy has taught me that I don't need to and that forcing myself to remember could re-traumatise me. You can get through this but don't do it alone. Help is out there and it will make a difference. Sending much love. You're strong to have survived. Now you can get help and learn to live. Blessings to you. ❤️
@queenofpents3442
@queenofpents3442 2 года назад
Any form of abuse is a dehumanizing experience. It makes you lose yourself and become something you don't recognize. The abuser is like a parasite that invades the victims soul. This is absolutely disturbing and heartbreaking. Its almost like this was the sister's fate because of how they were tortured while being raised. Gawd my heart😢
@morganwickman4180
@morganwickman4180 2 года назад
I wonder if the white lady was another alter? Since during the actual acts of murder, Giulia blacked out during the events. Since Guilia otherwise never showed aggression really and just took the abuse, but the white lady was a legend told to her as a child, most likely when she would have developed DID, and though alters aren’t necessarily dangerous, the white lady could be seen as someone who could stand up to her mother and potentially protect her, or at the very least be stronger than the young personalities of Martha or Giulia.
@troymihoyminoy3889
@troymihoyminoy3889 2 года назад
I was thinking the same thing!
@-simplicity7551
@-simplicity7551 Год назад
would that make the nanny an alter too? created to take care of Martha (or Guilia?) while she was tucked away in the body's mind. a loving mother figure that she never had.
@kosmik8647
@kosmik8647 2 года назад
Someone speculated that Martha in fact was real but at the end of the story Giulia's mind protected her psyche with coming up with a story that Martha was never real. It was too much for her to realize she was the one who killed Martha so she rather believed Martha was her imagination.
@atlast6913
@atlast6913 2 года назад
But the mother only gave birth to one child and the scene with the necklace and the death implied that Martha and giulia were the same
@amelie-hb7ln
@amelie-hb7ln Год назад
Martha was real, giulia is the alter. When Martha died, giulia took her place to be her mouth
@laindiaok
@laindiaok Год назад
@@amelie-hb7ln Martha didn't really died, actually, I would say, Martha's the one talking at the end of the game, after she speaks about how she was healing from trauma. It's not impossible for hosts to go back front after being protected by an alter. Giulia is in the front the first part of the game, and keeps switching with Martha, but it would be very interesting trying to figure out when she's Martha and when she's Giulia. For example, I think that Giulia was impersonating Martha from the begining and not the other way around. Martha wanted to finally get rid of Giulia, as she knew her mother wasn't a bad mother anymore, but Giulia kept showing up, as Martha didn't "remember", Giulia would come back everytime to show how her mother was still the one that abused the child. And when they kill the mother, it's actually Giulia talking in the recording, that's not Martha, Martha loves her mother as she's the host and doesn't remember, Giulia would hate her and want to kill her. And I believe Giulia was trying to harm the body, and really kill herself, kill Martha, because of all the guilt she had for getting the body pregnant, as thinking that the mother would do what she thought she did (killing Martha on the lake), but it probably was nothing but a delusion by Giulia, as we could see how her Mother would run for Martha. She didn't like Giulia because Giulia would despise her too.
@placeclevertitlehere
@placeclevertitlehere 10 месяцев назад
there’s a news article you can apparently find in town of light at volterra asylum that is a funeral announcement for giulia and also names martha as a surviving member, the same funeral announcement you see in the newspaper in martha is dead
@РусланЛакійчук
@РусланЛакійчук 2 года назад
In the previous game of this developer "The Town of Light" you can find notes referring that two sisters existed. Right at the beginning in small building near gate entrance to asylum. Also, in the middle of the game, there are note of a patient Irene K. which hints us, that their mother was a patient of the asylum in which she wanted to get Julia.
@Crawleys_Wahoo
@Crawleys_Wahoo 2 года назад
I watched a let's play of it in my mother tongue German. It's a beautiful, but also very serious and sad/depressing game with some really shocking moments. The way of Storytelling is great, very creative and in a natural flow. The soundtrack is also great.
@HeyMishkaTV
@HeyMishkaTV 2 года назад
Thank you! This is the best explanation of the story I've seen. The game is really intense and confusing to experience.
@josie5165
@josie5165 2 года назад
I feel this game would've been stronger if they just kept her replacing her sister and kept it a ghost story with psychological elements playing on her guilt and loss of her sister. I for one hate how the media constantly and consistently portrays people who suffer from a real life disorder like DID like they’re dormant monsters ready to kill. I love a good ghost story and this could've been one of them! I feel racking everything up to her having DID erases and tears down the complexity story we see. Too many creators don’t know too much about DID and I wish more would be considerate of, though small, a very marginalized vunerable community. I don't think the creators are remotely bad people, but I hope more writers will be conscious of how they present disorders like this.
@michaelwilliams5607
@michaelwilliams5607 2 года назад
The entire point of the story is that you don’t know what actually happened. Martha/ Giullia is an unreliable narrator and it’s up to you to decide based on context clues and the information that we’re given what the truth is. It’s very evident that Martha may just be a mentally disturbed person who making up an entire fabrication of events. Or maybe she does have DID. It’s not set in stone so you can’t be made at the creators of the game hinting at it as a possibility when they hint at like 50 other possibilities for what happened. So the inconsistencies serve as doubt to her authenticity. I know is frustrating not knowing what actually happened but that’s the beauty of psychological horror is that it makes you question if your own presumptions or what you call the truth.
@josie5165
@josie5165 2 года назад
@@michaelwilliams5607 That is very true, I guess I just get defensive when I see creators hint at DID and use it as plot devise. Its true she isn’t a very reliable narrator so maybe not. Either way the game was very very interesting
@LiLSizzlerr
@LiLSizzlerr 2 года назад
But her mother didnt loose it at piano - In the recording its said that they found Martha/Gulia hurting herself pretty bad.
@josie5165
@josie5165 2 года назад
@@LiLSizzlerr I forgot about that! 😅 This game was so complicated it's hard to remember what was established and what was all in her head
@_gremlinboy
@_gremlinboy 2 года назад
100% agreed! Was so disappointed to get to the end and have the twist be "ooh it was the spooky DID all along" it's a similar frustration to "it was all a dream" type endings except it's ableist too.
@paulakostrnova4993
@paulakostrnova4993 2 года назад
This is some great narrating. I imagine it must've had taken some time to cover this story. You made it sound gripping till the very end. Thanks.
@jacklee9271
@jacklee9271 2 года назад
So summary, Irene tortured Martha and killed her dog which then Julia as a second personality appeared which cause all these problems. Irene is pretty much the winner of worst mother reward and she really had it coming for her being killed by Martha shooting her in the personality of Julia
@aquadiamond5499
@aquadiamond5499 2 года назад
You have no idea how long ive waited for this vid THANK YOU
@YAMAHAZI
@YAMAHAZI 2 года назад
I literally JUST realized that Giulia became the mouth when the “only” Martha “existed” couldn’t speak anymore. There were NO twins!
@osenator
@osenator 2 года назад
The censorship of Sony soured me into not buying this game.... sad, looks amazing.
@yaboinoodle6878
@yaboinoodle6878 2 года назад
The scene in question made sense bc it went under my skin but it's worth it
@webyr5097
@webyr5097 2 года назад
@@yaboinoodle6878 what was the scene ? i saw a let's play with the non censored version but idk why they censored it
@brianamlitt
@brianamlitt 2 года назад
@@webyr5097 it's the scene where Giulia cuts a two faced fetus out of Martha's corpse, the scene is still there but it's skippable and non interactive. they also had to update the warnings to include reference to miscarriage.
@webyr5097
@webyr5097 2 года назад
@@brianamlitt Ok i see thank you !!
@MindbenderTTV
@MindbenderTTV 2 года назад
One small correction. Technically, the "Martha" alter didn't die. She and Giulia fused into one fully integrated alter slowly, with them fully integrating in the final scene. Great video!
@digitaldarlingarts
@digitaldarlingarts 2 года назад
Y E S! I’m so glad you made this! I had been planning on requesting it
@lexiwexiwoo
@lexiwexiwoo 2 года назад
I'm a true crime junkie & I dabble in creative writing. I am pretty proud of myself for calling the plot during the Demo. Whenever Death said her and Martha had out maneuvered both Death and Fate, I knew that it had to be a "split personality" situation. I had thought maybe they'd go supernatural with it, making it a manifestation of the twin sister she always wanted and be dealing with the "spirit" of the sister who didn't exist, but this was definitely a great story. The human mind is incredible and will do so much to protect itself from the world around us. Whether that's suppressing memories, compartmentalizing the thoughts and feelings associated with trauma, or having to essentially fracture and create a personality that shields the person from the trauma that was inflicted. Is it common for people with this kind of condition to only create 1 or are the cases I've seen where it can almost be created each time they experience more trauma that varies from what the 1st personality was created from.
@Bean-nw7pe
@Bean-nw7pe 2 года назад
You should look into "The Town of Light." It's made by the same developers of Martha is Dead and explores the very real Volterra Psychiatric Hospital. The main character is a patient of the hospital and you get to see what she, along with other patients, had to go through. Although she isn't a real person or based off a real patient in the hospital, the experiences portrayed in her story ring true to what real patients went through. You should check it out!
@Jack-so5bp
@Jack-so5bp 2 года назад
The rate these videos are out out is honestly astounding, especially at such great quality.
@lonewolfheart1697
@lonewolfheart1697 2 года назад
This a fantastic & detailed explanation. Very useful having just finished the game myself. I agree that it's kinda obvious that Martha suffered from Dissociative Identity Disorder when you like back at the story... all the little hints/breadcrumbs dotted along the way. Thank you so much.
@nezuko9118
@nezuko9118 2 года назад
At last some one explain the story of this game thanks for the hard work
@gracerigoni300
@gracerigoni300 2 года назад
People with DID typically have more than one alter and there are expansive ways in which a system may or may not be able to communicate with one another. I personally think that neither martha or gulia killed their mother, and if this is truly about a girl with DID, but a seperate alter that even gulia didnt know about. Clearly she was undiagnosed, or at least gulia was unaware of a diagnosis, and so i think its possible she would have had no idea if there was anyone else. I think because of the blackouts and memory lapses after Marthas death, this leads to the idea that there was another alter that we as viewers do not get to see since we are only getting one perspective for the story. I also think it is possible that the martha/gulia we see at the end is a fused martha and gulia, where neither alter in the way they were presented to us is still alive, yet they have access to similar combined memories of both people. Its also possible that if each sister died, then a new or separate alter received ownership of their respective memories, but I'm not sure, the game does a great job at making the player question reality. I also know that this is a fictional representation of a real disorder and that is very serious not to mix up the actions in the game with real ones or to project said actions as fears. DID is a serious condition created by trauma and that is not something to be taken lightly.
@raito1156
@raito1156 2 года назад
Hey Gamersault your content is dope, No lie.
@thethmooteresa
@thethmooteresa 2 года назад
Agreedddd, he is the best Narrator ☆☆
@raito1156
@raito1156 2 года назад
@@thethmooteresa awww thanks bro his our guy
@TheePoohhBear
@TheePoohhBear 2 года назад
I don’t know if this is a stretch but this game seems like a Masterpiece
@B1g_B0sssss
@B1g_B0sssss 2 года назад
Well, it's solid, but the voice acting isn't good at all, they truly Sound like shallow isolated shells, aside from Irene which her actress did a pretty good Job with.
@meta7517
@meta7517 2 года назад
I have a very different theory on this game. The devs previous game, The Town of Light, was updated with a few notes refering to Martha AND Gulia, and Marthas dead. Also, they talk about Marthas mother who says that she made her sister silent. So this tells us that Martha actually existed and actually died. My theory is, that Martha really died, and Giulia killed her, maybe out of jealousy, which, combined with the abuse of her mother in her childhood, caused her schizophrenia to break out. To handle what she has done to her sister, she first imagines in her psychotic state, that her mother must have killed her, and when Martha killed her mother, it worsens her state so that she tells herself that Martha did not even exist, so that she couldn't have killed her.
@meta7517
@meta7517 2 года назад
Funny thing is, in this theory, the games title can be taken literal: Martha IS dead, she existed and died.
@BasedLegoMaul
@BasedLegoMaul 2 года назад
The game genuinely blew my mind. I couldn’t stop thinking about it for weeks after and recently have revisited talking and thinking about it. It’s so dark and depressing but I think everyone should give it a play or atleast watch videos on it. Your video however is probably the best explanation on the entire story.
@peppina981
@peppina981 2 года назад
reading all the comments and theories about the bloody bed part, here’s a different take - SPOILERS - I feel like I’m the only one who thinks the blood could also be referring to the late game reveal that in the mental hospital she started compulsively m*sturbating to the point where she bled and had to be restrained. The bloody bed scene could be one of the early clues on how she’s already been in the mental hospital a while and that a lot of these memories are fabricated based on what she heard on the radio and are now getting mixed with the reality she’s living in. The miscarriage interpretation probably makes more sense given all the other pregnancy talk throughout the game, just an interesting alternative way to look at it.
@meanbean8012
@meanbean8012 2 года назад
I love the background music choice! I never thought I'd hear it in someones video :0
@jacquelynkrogulski9750
@jacquelynkrogulski9750 2 года назад
I’ve been waiting for this!!! Thank you!
@Traigame2cervezas
@Traigame2cervezas 2 года назад
This story has the potential to be a David Lynch/Mark Frost series. Lol I was picturing the whole thing while listening to your narration. And speaking of Lynch, have you thought about making a video of "Who's Lila?"
@casha_1549
@casha_1549 2 года назад
Omg "who's Lila?" is such a good game!! I hope he considers this suggestion
@DeezoDaKid
@DeezoDaKid 2 года назад
I'm so happy I came across this video, because I played Martha Is Dead and I had so many questions and this is a really good explanation
@Kittyluvr98
@Kittyluvr98 2 года назад
You should do Rusty Lake next! Great mystery/horror games and there’s even a short film
@NoArtisticLimitation
@NoArtisticLimitation 2 года назад
Yes! I’d love that!
@richardskettini3323
@richardskettini3323 2 года назад
Without exaggeration, your synopsis of this narrative is far far far more entertaining then the actual game is. That isn't to say it isn't a predictable and pretentious story but at least when narrated one can appreciate the highlights and themes without having to endure the utterly boring gameplay. Thanks buddy, you are doing more of a favor then you realize.
@-topic9506
@-topic9506 2 года назад
ugh, the telegram part KILLED me. so unnecessary. almost none of the gameplay was something you could even "fail". it made the whole thing feel like a failed movie that the creator made a video game out of
@TheSwauzz
@TheSwauzz 2 года назад
Your comment is what seems pretentious. What a roundabout way of dissing the game wholeheartedly.
@richardskettini3323
@richardskettini3323 2 года назад
@@TheSwauzz It was a compliment to the creator. The narration allows the good portions of the game to be appreciated. That's a good thing. I didn't say anything about the gameplay that people don't already know. It's not very fun. Story stronger than gameplay, but "it was all all a dream and imaginary friend" stories are pretty lame in this decade. Especially if you see it coming
@pizzamafioso9191
@pizzamafioso9191 2 года назад
The only thing i still don't get is: Why did the dad love *Gulia* more then *Martha*? I get it that mum wanted the past to be forgoten so it makes sense why she was happy when Gulia, the face Ego, was "dead". But why would the dad love the false version of his daughter?
@Cheemma
@Cheemma 2 года назад
I thought this game was fascinating and I liked it overall, but I personally did not like the ending. I thought that the game was representing the horrors of grief and the madness it can lead to - a very real horror that a lot of people can actually relate to. I don’t think the game needed a huge twist, it felt almost like a cliché cop out to suggest that it was in her head all along because she’s mentally unwell. It wasn’t a great representation of mental health problems and it left me confused and unsatisfied. I know she’s an unreliable narrator and it’s down to interpretation which can be a very cool thing, but it felt almost like they were doing a “it was just a dream” and like the devs didn’t even have a canon. There was a little explanation of the piano incident and the reason Giulia was silent, but nothing else was explained at all. The photograph of her killing her sister, the body and the funeral, the conversations between her parents. Are we to believe that she imagined all of it? Just, again, feels like a cop out which is a shame because it was really good before that twist. I think the game would have benefitted from a simpler narrative that she was losing her mind with grief, again, a very real and relatable horror. That was very effective, for me at least. Not many people at all can relate to imagining all of that and being so mentally unwell they can no longer function. The mother committing the murder and getting the sisters mixed up was a good enough twist, it didn’t really need more than that. I also felt disappointed that nothing came of that cool scene where the death puppet said the two sisters were destined to die and he got the wrong one
@skelemanbrie
@skelemanbrie 2 года назад
I agree with you wholeheartedly ESPECIALLY about the death scene!! It felt weird to have Death explicitly state they’re both slated to die, and then the ending is about how the MC survives over and over against her own beliefs that she would. Plus, grief is a universal horror. It’s something anyone can understand to some degree, because everyone has lost someone/something. It’s also, in my opinion, an underutilized one. I felt the game was handling the themes so well until the final twists of the MC being both Martha and Giulia, because it deflates any grief we were supposed to have, and also takes away from the replay-ability. I won’t feel the same sense of care and worry and horror about the tale unfolding when I know none of it is real. The letter from the boyfriend, stating he knew Giulia was alive? Didn’t happen. The conversation between mom and dad during the funeral? Nope, not real. The picture of Giulia carrying Martha out of the water? Trick of the light. Im not trying to complain about the game, it’s beautiful! I just felt the ending became more complicated than it needed to get the original themes across. And plus, portraying mentally i’ll people as inherently dangerous is just overdone in my opinion, ESPECIALLY in relation to Schizophrenia and DID patients. It’s a trope that needs to die.
@Cheemma
@Cheemma 2 года назад
@@skelemanbrie Yeah I couldn’t have said it better myself, really. I really couldn’t see anyone replaying it because as you say, there’s no weight to it anymore. After finding out the sister didn’t exist and none of that stuff happened, it’s just meaningless and the player just won’t feel inclined to care anymore. I feel like a lot of it wouldn’t make any sense and it would raise more questions than answers. Whereas when we thought Martha was real, I was absolutely hooked and felt so much empathy for the characters, especially Giulia, over the loss. Loss is something we all experience at some point as you say, we can all relate to so I was very impressed and intrigued when it seemed to be appealing to the fears and sorrows we all have surrounding death. I thought that was very effective and unique and I was so disappointed when the ending erased all that and we were left with a cliché instead. I don’t like to trash the game either because I thought it was so interesting, the visuals and music were fantastic, and it had so many great ideas in there. I’ve been thinking about the game a lot since I saw this which is always a sign something had an impact on me. I think I’m just a bit frustrated that it had so much potential to be something unique and amazing right to the end, but the ending just kind of ruined it for me. It feels almost like the devs decided on a different ending halfway through (or so) making the game, the Death puppet scene didn’t go anywhere and a lot of stuff just doesn’t make sense. It was like they felt it needed a huge twist but it really didn’t, it would have benefitted from keeping the simpler narrative. I find myself wondering if there was an alternate ending but I feel like there isn’t a significantly different one, maybe the “it was in her head all along” narrative kind of erases the possibility of alternate endings?
@-topic9506
@-topic9506 2 года назад
i believe death is in Martha's head, just like Giulia and I think the white lady. he's a puppet just like them. maybe Martha's system had to choose who to "sacrifice" when they thought they were dying in the lake? I don't really know, but I think him also being a puppet's gotta mean something
@Cheemma
@Cheemma 2 года назад
@@-topic9506 I don’t think there’s much to suggest DID, I don’t think that’s what the game is about. I know it’s down to interpretation but I’m seeing a lot of people jumping to this conclusion and I’m not seeing it myself. I think it’s supposed to be symbolic rather than literal. Also just pointing out that her name is Giulia, an Italian name. My boyfriend is called Mikołaj and I wouldn’t call him Nicholas, it’s best to learn people’s names rather than anglicise them
@-topic9506
@-topic9506 2 года назад
@@Cheemma lmao I wasn't anglicising it, I just made a mistake lol
@payasiitos
@payasiitos 2 года назад
I finally finished this game and I was in awe of the storytelling, truly interesting on how you can somewhat decide her story at the end
@DerNomade1871
@DerNomade1871 2 года назад
Wow a ww2 game that focuses on horror and doesn't actually doesn't do the cringeworthy steryotypical move of demonizing Germans? By all means s I'll have to play it now
@benfrank9622
@benfrank9622 2 года назад
"Why do you say that name?!" - Batman
@katherynesmith4301
@katherynesmith4301 2 года назад
LOL i thought that too XD
@gamingdespair
@gamingdespair Год назад
Good job. I just got my collector's edition 2 weeks ago. It's untouched and I'm keeping it that way.
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 2 года назад
One game I'd love to see you attempt to explain the story for is The Path! It's a pretty old game but the story itself is so broad and unique that I'd love to see your take on it!
@RodaMoonknight
@RodaMoonknight 2 года назад
I watched a gameplay of this game but I swear to god I didn't understood the story just from it. Thanks for explaining it and handling well such a heavy story.
@rabbitspirit5202
@rabbitspirit5202 2 года назад
I'm not sure if I'm missing something but the amount of hidden meaning being that Gulia are one in the same (Gulia only seeming to have one bedroom when she was young, only one child being born as Martha) seem to be contradicted by the entire funeral process entirely as a vast number of characters send letters of condolences as well as various newspaper articles about Martha's death and an attempt on Gulia's life.
@senorpupik320
@senorpupik320 2 года назад
This game is perfect in almost every aspect except for one. It´s portraying person with D.I.D. as dangerous to others which IRL is not very likely. My girlfriend has D.I.D. as result of her childhood pedophile and violence trauma. People with D.I.D. are not likely to be violent more than a average person. Of course Giulia murdering her mother can be discussed, cause it could all happen only in her imagination as herself admits. Other than that, game do great service spreading much needed awareness about D.I.D. and offering unique experience.
@darrenchiam2472
@darrenchiam2472 2 года назад
The reason why Giulia would murder her mother is not unique to D.I.D, it's just that there are two personalities that is unique. It's basically similar to two siblings being abused and one of them taking the responsibility and guilt to prevent further abuse by eliminating the source, then hiding it from their other sibling. So I would disagree on this game portraying D.I.D as being dangerous, I think it tells people that abusing someone just because they seem different is wrong and will bring karma. Of course this is based on the idea that what Giulia did hear is real. I do agree that in the case there is truly no supernatural in this game, then it does portray the opposite, but considering D.I.D tends to appear due to abuse rather than natural causes, I still think Giulia acting the way she did is reasonable.
@senorpupik320
@senorpupik320 2 года назад
@@darrenchiam2472 You are right. Just I don´t think it was Giulia who killed Irene. It just doesn´t go along with her personality. And also she has no memory of killing her. So there is probably and likely another alter that took over. Or she is suffering from another mental disorder which would not be uncommon due to trauma she went through. Also it´s still a game and it needs to be sold and gain new fans, so there kinda had to be some murder for the content. I played The town of light, which was great but probably didn´t performed as good from sales point of view. Martha is dead is certainly step forward to attract wider audience. I love that developers are doing their thing, being unique and spreading awareness to important topics while most of the other games today are soulless. Even the indie titles. And hope Martha is dead perform well enough so we can expect more titles from them from the same universe (Town of Light contains notes about Irene and even Giulia). For people who didn´t played The town of light: According to note found in asylum, Irene was hospitalized 26yo in Volterra asylum after the dog cooking incident. While most pacients were treated poorly due to low standards and overcrowding of asylum, Irene was treated well because of huge donation from her family even getting her own room. When she was hospitalized she stated: "She wanted to take us away, that damned kid, wanted to kill us, shes a devil I tell you, she is the devil herself. She destroyed my ability to give life, she left her sister in silence, silence is scary."
@exosproudmamabear558
@exosproudmamabear558 2 года назад
She probably has shizophrenia too. Not just D.i.d untreated shizophrenia can cause agression and paranoia
@AcidicGumdrops
@AcidicGumdrops 2 года назад
@@exosproudmamabear558 people with schizophrenia are statistically more likely to be victims of violence and abuse than violent abusers themselves.
@exosproudmamabear558
@exosproudmamabear558 2 года назад
@@AcidicGumdrops True because schizophrenia is a spectrum. Not every untreated schizophrenia patient will be aggressive. But there are cases that go with increased aggression.
@COP-mr2im
@COP-mr2im 2 года назад
Props for the italian pronunce. Really well done
@CeliMe007
@CeliMe007 2 года назад
The game story is really confusing at points. Who died? What's a hallucinations and what's real? The story telling is all over the place at times.
@amydand
@amydand 2 года назад
I’m just as confused… it’s like he skips tons of info and I have no idea what’s going on.
@CeliMe007
@CeliMe007 2 года назад
@@amydand honestly, everything he put in this video is the story. The game developers need to work on their storytelling.
@wrlccywrlir
@wrlccywrlir 2 года назад
@@CeliMe007 It's supposed to be confusing since the character you play as doesn't know what is happening either. It's all over the place because we see everything from the real Martha's perspective. It also allows you to interpret the game however you want to. This video just makes it easier for you. Giulia is a result of Martha's endured abuse by her mother, another personality that was created so she could detach herself from what was happening, Giulia only exists in Martha's head and so on, the video pretty much explains it.
@CeliMe007
@CeliMe007 2 года назад
@@wrlccywrlirjust because its meant to be confusing doesn't mean it's written really well. And I think the most lazy way to avoid plotholes is to leave things up to interpretation
@mwur6190
@mwur6190 2 года назад
@@wrlccywrlir then who was the woman that we saw the corpse of in the beginning? Was it a random woman? and why did it seem like there were twins and not just one? Since it seems like the parents act like there were two daughters. Does that imply that the dad loves the alter?
@lider881
@lider881 2 года назад
Cool game, i like the immersive setting and soundtrack but -spoiler am i the only one who is tired of those stories where the narrator is crazy and is half- imagining everything? I feel like this twist has been done to death
@lonewolfheart1697
@lonewolfheart1697 2 года назад
Maybe so, but as an abuse survivor, I can tell you that the twist was realistic for the situation. It wasn't done just for the sake of it. Dissociative Identity Disorder is a very real condition. It's a shame that people might think it's a "tired" plot twist to use but it's used here to raise awareness of what people actually go through in real life.
@_Spy_
@_Spy_ 2 года назад
So basically we were playing as Martha's made up identity, *"Gulia",* who was taking over to deal with the abuse of her mother. That night *"Gulia"* probably having fed up with this and wanting to live and not rely on Martha and her body took over and created a new reality which Martha and she are twin sisters until the very end when that reality is destroyed. She tried to take over by killing Martha so she can finally live only for Martha, the real identinty, to return and take full control of the body again, asking what had happened and then killing *"Gulia".* In *"Gulia's"* mind Martha is in fact dead...at least that's how I understand it...wow... Man this game is something else. I've never seen something like that, not that I'm aware of. Bravo to the creators, they did an amazing job and I won't shut up about how cleverly and beautifuly they used the mechanics of photography and the dark room. As someone who loves photography it's one of my favourite features of the game. Also, I love how they found a different way to use the term *"twins".* 10/10 for this game.
@salazar556
@salazar556 2 года назад
I consider this to be one of the best horror games. It goes to show that you don't need monsters to make something scary and disturbing. The only thing I'd change is the impact your choices have. I was kinda disappointed that what you choose has little to no effect on the story.
@mikshinee87
@mikshinee87 2 года назад
Developers call it an illusion of choice.
@mochiness
@mochiness 2 года назад
The music you used in the beginning of the video sounded so familiar....is it Aquasonic?? Ive never heard of this game before, but thank you for sharing your thought with us! Great choice of music as it really reflect the haunting beauty of this insane narrative
@cnashford2
@cnashford2 2 года назад
This video was great! Thanks for the explanation.
@gamersault
@gamersault 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@gf-ry6qz
@gf-ry6qz 2 года назад
You know what’s sad? The body is in the water, drowned. The music playing is people singing under water. Eerie
@coffee-ouji
@coffee-ouji 2 года назад
ah, fuck this game played with me, man i love psychological horror sincee it's mostly based on tension and confusing you..... and it did, holy-three-headed-hell-doggos 10/10, was holding my forehead all the way, would never see again thanks R, love how you narrate. it truly helps me understand these weird games, they're awesome
@riley.....
@riley..... 2 года назад
thank u for the video R, issa wonderful
@kissairashaegawa8555
@kissairashaegawa8555 2 года назад
First off awesome video. Second I'm more confused than the time I watch Inception.😂 Lastly my thoughts are that the story probably ended when her mother said she was going to put her in a mental Asylum. Meaning all the stuff after she said I think was in her mind cuz they did say she would get free and hurt herself. So in her mind she killed her mother. in her mind her dad got killed and she got tortured by troops. My explanation for the cameras and finding out her city was bombed is I feel like they would probably film her anyway because she's a general's daughter going into a mental Asylum. And the idea that her City got bomb is probably just from watching the news.
@tarotsushima3332
@tarotsushima3332 2 года назад
I'm still torn on whether Erich really died or not because Guilia in the narration scenes has the scar on her top lip that she apparently got from being beaten up by the soldiers that captured her father but when she comes to, she finds no one around and hadn't been taken away so idk.
@Dokrobei
@Dokrobei 2 года назад
Guys, after the credits there's a % on screen. What's that suppose to mean? It's not a completion percentage cause I got platinum but still got a 96% score at the ending. The only thing that comes to mind is that it depends on answers given in the mirror puppet scene. Like if you guess all the right answers you got 100%.
@flowerpower003
@flowerpower003 2 года назад
I got 90% good theory on it being related to the mirror puppet scene
@littlejunkettes4122
@littlejunkettes4122 2 года назад
Oh my god, I thought I recognized Udo Kier's voice as the father. It's good to hear him
@nyu1425
@nyu1425 Месяц назад
Okay I'm not playing many games but I like this kind of video and damn this is really good... Especially I love how the war become an important factor that actually mixed in quite deeply into the plot and not just there as a background setting...
@beffwithanf
@beffwithanf 2 года назад
I wonder if the Irene we see in the game is a factive of the real Irene and her death is an analogy for that alter integrating or changing in some way?
@jacobgallegos8762
@jacobgallegos8762 2 года назад
The mom had it coming
@adelle3068
@adelle3068 2 года назад
12:15 what is the song playing in the background? It’s hauntingly beautiful
@Ll_ring00
@Ll_ring00 2 года назад
One thing I don't understand. Why did she pretend to be her sister?
@Rock_Lee_The_Handsome_Devil
@Rock_Lee_The_Handsome_Devil 2 года назад
There never was a sister, its an alternate personality
@Ll_ring00
@Ll_ring00 2 года назад
@@Rock_Lee_The_Handsome_Devil OH, THAT MAKES SENSE. But was her mother and father talking about? The mother was clearly favoriting her alternate personality.
@Rock_Lee_The_Handsome_Devil
@Rock_Lee_The_Handsome_Devil 2 года назад
@@Ll_ring00 one personality was created to protect the other, it appears one was 'favoured' because the other one would only show up to deal with the trauma and keep the other safe
@Ll_ring00
@Ll_ring00 2 года назад
@@Rock_Lee_The_Handsome_Devil That totally makes sense
@BanishedSilentShadow3318
@BanishedSilentShadow3318 2 года назад
Case for the funeral part, it might be just a fabric memory for Gullia (or Martha) to symbolize the death of the other.
@dizzydots4786
@dizzydots4786 2 года назад
I straight up didn't connect that it was a DID represantation until late video - Which is really cool, and it means they've done it super well! I also like the comorbidities of delusions and hallucinations. As a DID set (hate the term system for ourselves), we have comorbid Tourette's syndrome, manic episodes and psychosis. Many of us are perfectly fine with the "living situation" such as the Tourette's and such, but there are a few who have a gutteral disgust for it. For example, our Bronté. She'll still tic but she makes it extremely clear; No one can comment on it or react to it. She has a fragile superiority complex, and because she doesn't tic internally, she finds herself detesting the fact that the body does. Or, my twin brother. Another alter who is a gay man, suffers from a lot of body dysmorphia and gender dysphoria - but he's completely grand with the Tourette's. I mean, most of the time he can see the humour in it like I can. And, it's alters. Like "altered state of consciousness/perception/self" If alters were just "personalities" it wouldn't account for the dissociation and amnesia
@alleosussquirt8041
@alleosussquirt8041 2 года назад
Why does every horror game have to have some animal abuse? It just is not fun to witness no matter what...
@MrJuliolozano88
@MrJuliolozano88 2 года назад
The music for this video is amazing. Whose the artist/what’s the song?
@keitaowl
@keitaowl 2 года назад
I usually have not even played the games here but when you post a long video I AM IN EVERYTIME
@ethribin4188
@ethribin4188 7 месяцев назад
So... the mother is the cause of everything. She realized her mistakes, but it was to late, couldn't deal with it, and inadvertently kept the mistake from being fixed or her daughter's wounds healing. So in the end, she died by her daughter's hands, while her husband died due to the duality of her daughter getting them caught up between the war and it's partisans. And after all of that, her daughter still didnt heal. She couldn't heal. All she could do is give up her defense mechanisms used to hide from her suffering, and actually suffer. What a truly sad story.
@Fedorah_Mccain
@Fedorah_Mccain Год назад
Yo, what are those music tracks though? They sound beautifully haunting
@ZZZmrsssze
@ZZZmrsssze 2 года назад
After a mental trauma, when you give your existence love or trust to someone, or when you're just a victim of abuse, the pain is so big that you disassociate yourself from reality and very often people trying to hold on all this pain are treated like crazy people who become prisonners of mental hospital drowned by drugs. Many mental hospitals abuse of not mentally disturbed people by druging them, often people inside cry and ask for help.. IDK sometimes we just need to be patient with deeply depressed people, try to be there for them and give them some hope, listen to theyr pain no matter how crazy theyr vision of life is and i realy believe that they can heal from inside by this way, and come back to reality when they feel it's safe again!
@lazyknowledge6286
@lazyknowledge6286 2 года назад
Yay! Thank you for explaining it. Then I can skip the playthrough I was watching which was no fun whatsoever. But I love knowing the story! :D Thanks!!!
@katherynesmith4301
@katherynesmith4301 2 года назад
Got here one minute after it was posted. : O
@Fanartist-Kitty
@Fanartist-Kitty 2 года назад
I'm early again yhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh love your videos EDIT I CRIED SO HARD
@campbellartis5317
@campbellartis5317 2 года назад
The dog didn't deserve that but at least the mother got what was coming to her i wish Julia tortured her mother through but everything Julia can do to her mother won't even compare to what Julia had to go through
@sleepyiGuy
@sleepyiGuy 2 года назад
please do dentures and demons, it's a simple game in 8-bit style but it's pretty cool
@gorister8684
@gorister8684 2 года назад
Nah, it sucked
@moonchild5859
@moonchild5859 2 года назад
sincerely, since the dog incident, the mother had it coming.
@brittanyxxbabyxx2186
@brittanyxxbabyxx2186 2 года назад
Thanks for the videos very great job! This story is so interesting and deep! This is a wonderfully made game
@rorozoloc7706
@rorozoloc7706 2 года назад
I literally just commented that we needed this. 😳😳😳
@rosenrot234
@rosenrot234 2 года назад
Kinda neat the folks who made this game clearly did homework on alters. Like how some alters are sort of gatekeepers to certain painful memories. Keeping them away from other alters to keep the overall system safe. And how alters sometimes go dormant. The way I see it. They integrated. Fusing together into a new alter. Helping each other in the end rather than struggle for control over the body. This way, the system can be safe.
@SilveryBlue1010
@SilveryBlue1010 2 года назад
I just need to know one thing, did Irene really cook the dog???
@toxicradiant9858
@toxicradiant9858 2 года назад
Sadly prolly, Irene wasn't exactly the most stable mother and there's no doubt if she'd actually hurt her kids that bad she'd do the same if not worse to an animal that got in her way during her lows
@SilveryBlue1010
@SilveryBlue1010 2 года назад
So, she was murdered by the monster(Martha/Julia) she created..
@toxicradiant9858
@toxicradiant9858 2 года назад
@@SilveryBlue1010 I believe so! It is a little confusing lol
@quaelgeist3337
@quaelgeist3337 2 года назад
I cannot speak for people with did but this just feels... wrong. I doubt this is meant to potray it
@josie5165
@josie5165 2 года назад
I agree not only does the media always portray people with this disorder as monsters but I feel it’s a weak choice for the game itself as it erases the complex supernatural story it’s built
@quaelgeist3337
@quaelgeist3337 2 года назад
@@josie5165 oh of course. Don't be a fucking coward and go ableism. Go ham on the supernatural and shit like the butterfly effect
@lonewolfheart1697
@lonewolfheart1697 2 года назад
You have to consider that at the time, there was no help like we have today. The asylum was the only place you went and it was not somewhere to heal. The practices and treatment were barbaric... it's accurate that Guila/Martha didn't want to go there but had nobody else to help her either. That's why she got more and more extreme in her behaviours. The message at the very end clarifies that times have changed now.
@thetruthh.8836
@thetruthh.8836 11 месяцев назад
It depends. Some people have multiple personalities. Also, she is not necessarily violent, she is if you, as a player, decide that she killed her mother, but the truth is that she most likely didn't killed her in realife.
@jjranger90
@jjranger90 2 года назад
I’d like to see you do Rule of Rose
@msfox103able
@msfox103able Год назад
My name is Martha. I'm 29.
@xepicxyoshix5982
@xepicxyoshix5982 День назад
Hot damn! The amount of twists, I thought it was one thing but it was this other thing which turned out to be another thing, just amazing!
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