In this video I break down who owns who with regards to the Marvel characters and what this does and can mean for these characters now and in the future.
Great job on the video and is a well detailed explanation. As far as everyone knows, currently Namor, Hulk ( and his associated characters) and Spider-Man (and his associated characters) are the only ones that Disney/Marvel Studios doesn't own the full rights to. I wonder what that means for the Disney Plus She Hulk series since that has the characters from the Incredible Hulk 2008 movie. Hopefully time will tell and Disney can acquire the rights back from Universal for both Hulk and Namor. That would make things so much less complicated. I predict Sony will retain the rights to Spider-Man for some time especially with the rumors about Spider-Man No Way Home and if they are true, that movie will make Sony an extreme amount of money.
Thank you David, really appreciate the support! As far as I know, Universal only has the distribution rights for solo Hulk films which is probably why Disney haven't made any after The Incredible Hulk as they wouldn't legally be allowed to release it. I don't think Universal however has the rights to Hulks supporting characters i.e. Emil Blonski, She Hulk, Thunderbolt Ross etc... which is why I think they are able to appear in the Disney+ show without conflict. Also I am not 100% sure on this but the Hulk rights might only apply to films which could be another reason these characters can appear with no issues due to it being TV. The Namor situation has always been a bit random and heard different rumours which may or may not be true so for that one I will just wait and see until Marvel or Fiege confirm something! Like all companies, Universal is driven by money and I HIGHLY doubt that them making a Hulk movie that has new cast and characters completely unrelated to the MCU would give them a lot of money, they would definitely make more if they just sold to Disney BUT now Disney is doing so well with these 'side characters' it all depends on whether or not they actually want the Hulk back but with the MCU I always say... anything could happen!
I completely agree with regards to the Sony deal coming through soon, especially this past week as there has been so much news about it, just need that last bit of confirmation from Feige!
I agree Alfred! I want to see all of the characters in one universe but also have there own pockets in the wider universe so its not always an Avengers and X-men and FF crossover. They all need space to breathe on there own but ultimately they would be owned by the same company. Sony seem to be very stubborn though and with a working relationship they already have with Marvel, I doubt they will just sell Spider-Man and his characters back unfortunately!
Exactly! Although Wolverine and the Mutants moving forward now will also =MCU/Marvel and with the recent news that Jamie Fox will be back as Electro in Spider-Man 3, it wouldn't surprise me if soon Spider-Man also =MCU.
@@mtime6648 Not that I know of! I don't think it is the same as the Fox deal where if Fox didn't make a film with the Fantastic 4 every few years, then the rights would revert back to Marvel automatically. I think with Sony, it will have to be an agreement between Marvel and Sony for Sony to sell the rights back!
Thank you for watching! Oh sorry if I didn't explain it in an understandable way. If you let me know what specifically it is that you are struggling to understand, I would be very happy to explain/ discuss it further!
@@mashrafeealam2387 No not at all Mashrafee, I don't think you were being rude at all, I just appreciate you watching and wanted to try and help you understand better!
@@mtime6648 Yes!! Luckily, I think Disney (who own Marvel) are such a big company now that even without certain characters, they can always make things successful, take GOTG for example however, Spider-Man has ALWAYS been and likely always will be one of the most famous Marvel and well superheroes of all time so I think in some ways they will always rely a little on Sony to keep using that character.... especially now he has been introduced into the MCU because I can't see the fans being happy if he just disappeared all of a sudden due to SONY owning him!
Marvelonmymind For the tasm series to be fair the Tasm series was supposed to be the beginning of a shared universe consisting of the marvel characters that Sony owns not the one that venom started The reason it was canceled is because the actor that played Peter didn’t showed up at an expo in an alternate reality he did showed up at that expo he was supposed to go to and it wasn’t canceled here’s what does this universe would’ve looked liked in my opinion (I use TV tropes of the tasm series for this look it up and go to canceled/planned films this series would’ve been impressive) Tasm (2012) Tasm 2 (2014) Tasm 3 (2016) Sinister six (2016) Kraven (2016) Black cat (2017) Spiderman 2099 (2017) Silver sable (2017) Venom (2017) Sinister six 2 (2018) Tasm 4 (2018) Silver & black (2019) Carnage (2019) Jackel (2019) Agent venom (2019) Spiderman 2099 2 (2020) Kravens last hunt (2020) Silver age Spider-Man trilogy 1 (2020) Clone saga 1 (2020) Superior Spider-Man 1 (2021) Venom/carnage 1 (2021) Silver age Spider-Man trilogy 2 (2021) Clone saga 2 (2021) Superior Spider-Man 2 (2022) Venom/carnage 2 (2022) Clone saga 3 (2022) Superior Spider-Man 3 (2022) Silver age Spider-Man trilogy 3 (2023) Venom/carnage 3 (2023) Death of Spider-Man 1 (2024) Death of Spider-Man 2 (2025) Death of Spider-Man 3 (2026) Td;lr: if this universe did happened it would end with a death of Spiderman trilogy
THIS SOUNDS AMAZING!!! I love this pitch. I think this is the way to go about building a Universe like the MCU and love how you have given The Sinister Six and Kraven and other characters their own dedicated films so establish and invest the audience in them as characters which would make their appearances in the Spider-Man films more impactful! And if you built all of this up over these years, people would be so emotionally affected by the Death of Spider-Man trilogy and may even feel similar to how they did when Tony Stark died in Endgame! The one from this list I would want.... and still want to see most is Kravens Last Hunt BUT I want a movie of 2 just to establish that character on his own, that way we will be more invested in his ideas. Thank you for watching and commenting!
@@marvelonmymind7245 Look up on TV tropes for the tasm series (the amazing Spiderman series) that series was supposed to be the beginning of a shared universe consisting of the marvel character that Sony owns not the one that venom started look it up on TV tropes you know what I meant
@@jonmcinnis1645 Thank you for this!!! The detail on the TV Tropes site is amazing and VERY VERY detailed! It will take me a while to read through it all but I love the way the site breaks down each of the films into the different characters so its easy to follow how many films would have been made for each of the characters. AND WHAT...... A CROSSOVER BETWEEN FOX/MARVEL AND SONY/MARVEL.... lets hope that will still be possible within the MCU now that Disney own 20th Century Fox
Marvel mania Through research I figure out 4 different companies owns the rights here they are Disney: owns 90% (back in 2019 they used to own 70% but they bought news Corp. in 2019 which owned 20% and now it’s 90%) Hasbro: owns 1% (AKA rom and micronauts) Sony: owns 8% Comcast(The company that owns universal): owns 1% So if the rights for all the marvel characters will be under one company again I think Hasbro should sell the rights for the marvel characters they own back to marvel (A.k.a. Rom and Micronauts) and then Disney should buy Sony and then Comcast should buy Disney and BAM! all of the rights for all the marvel characters would be under one company again here’s a possible timeline and I imagine it 2022: hasbro sells the rights for the marvel characters they own back to marvel (A.k.a. Rom and Micronauts) 2026: Disney buys Sony 2029: Comcast buys Disney TD;lr Within 9 years all of the rights for the marvel characters would be under one company again by 2029 Marvel mania that’s how I think the rights for all the marvel characters would be under one company again (because four different companies owns the rights for all of them) so what do you think?
Hey Robbie, thank you for such a detailed response! Sorry I have taken soooo long to get back to you! I completely agree that all the rights for Marvel characters will be under one company again in the future. I also agree that Hasbro will be the first to sell the rights back to Marvel as they have no intentions of using the characters they own and would profit more from having Disney buy them back. I do think there is a possibility of Sony selling back to Marvel as well. Although this is much less likely as Venom made a large box office despite critic and some fan disapproval and for big companies like Sony and Disney, profit is what drives them. It does seem like there may now be negotiations already taking place where the Sony characters will be integrated into the MCU with Olivia Wilde being brought on the direct a female led spider character which is being Produced with Kevin Feige. If this is the case and they are working well together, I don't think Sony will want to sell back because as long as they have the rights, they have control of quite a lot but Disney will be fighting to buy him back. Although Disney is having a bit of a financial dilemma at the moment, I don't think they will ever be bought by Comcast! The mouse is just too big and profitable to be bought. I think it is much more likely for Comcast/Universal to sell Disney the 1% they own. But who knows at the end of the day, this year just shows that anything can happen!!!
Marvel Mania Thanks but I’m pretty sure Hasbro will sell the 1% of the marvel characters they own back to marvel (AKA ROM and Micronauts) since you know they’re marvel characters
@@robbiemcinnis5582 Yeah I am with you on that! Hasbro will end up selling Rom and the Micronauts back to Marvel. I mean there was a Micronauts movie being talked about all the way back in 2009 and that didn't move anywhere! But they have had plans to do a Micronauts movie and integrate them with the GI Joe characters and others they own which was announced back in 2015 and was meant to be released in October 2020 but they then pushed it to June 2021 BUT with everything that has happened, I can't really see it making that release date. I also don't see the film being really successful and when they see it isn't I think they will sell back to Marvel. Plus, it seems Marvel are going to focus more of the Microverse moving forward so it could be a good get for Marvel at this point! I don't know, do you even think the Micronauts movie will go ahead? I haven't heard any production updates on it!
@@robbiemcinnis5582 Well with Sony, I think it can go one or two ways and think things could have been very different before Venom came out! Before Venom came out, I think Sony were planning on releasing the film and then using the box office of that film to judge the success they can have with the Spider related characters. Despite backlash from fans and critics, Venom performed a lot better at the box office than people expected which I think gave Sony a lot of confidence. They then became more confident when Into the Spiderverse was released as (in my opinion) that is the best Spider-Man movie to date and did win Best Animated Film at the Oscars and although it didn't make a lot at the box office, the hype and praise for the film ensures fans will come back next time as will loads of new audience members. Now moving forward, they have Venom which will probably do quite well because people want to see the sequel and Venom and Carnage are two of the biggest Spider-Man characters. BUT there is also Morbius who is not as well known so I think Sony are waiting to see how lesser known characters perform. I then think they are going to try and implement one or two characters into the MCU and test that out and then finally compare and see what is more profitable. If it is much better to have the characters in Marvel films and they see that, they will be able to charge Disney loads for the rights. So I think it kinda depends on the success of Sony's upcoming films! How about you? How do you feel? Personally, I would like to see Spiderman and his characters back BUT Sony did win me over with Into he Spiderverse
