Marvel Legends Legends: What If...? The unproduced plans for more Super Hero Figures from Toy Biz 

The ultimate “what if”storyline..... What if Scott the toyguru worked on the ML line/ toybiz instead of Dc and MotuC

Toybiz was the best, they were made 20 years ago. They really cared about their figures. Some included comics, bases, smaller figures as accessories, stands, cards, way more paint than what hasbro puts on their figures. They really pushed the envelope for action figures. Just imagine the crazy stuff they would have made today, with updates on articulation and new characters. This is the biggest “what if” when it comes to figures.

One thing to note, ToyBiz had produced some 12-inch figures with soft goods shown in this video. It was called the Marvel Studios line and had X2 Wolverine, Movie 2 Blade, 04 Movie Punisher and a comic style military Wolverine.

I've ended up with so many of those Legendary Heroes figures, they're very underrated.

Toybiz marvel legends My favourite action figure line There was hardly a bad figure in there, two that stand out for me , the variant vision series 7 and The juggernaut series 6 and the best wave was The Giant man series absolutely fantastic

The transforming figures were released I had the captain America helicopter and I remember seeing the spiderman wolverine and a hulk tank in the store when I got them

Adding a “lesser articulated” thug is brilliant! I still remember the police officer that the 2000 movie Sabertooth came with. Removable hat, a pistol, and a cool rag doll mechanic that made him go limp! Toybiz really was something special.

Both the 12 inch line and transforming robots were released. The 12 inch line was labelled Marvel Studios. You show the two customs that were used to convince the higher ups at Toybiz to green light the line. Blade, Punisher and Wolverine were all produced for mass market. The transforming robots were called Meta Morphs.

Marvel Legends need to bring back the VS pack series I really wanted a 90's Cage figure vs Hardcore with the on coming airplane as the cardboard background prop from the end of issue #1 and battle damage chase figures of them both with Cage having a removable black jacket and Hardcore accessory would be his bladed whipping chain. Namor vs Attuma, Blade vs Deacon Frost, Silver Surfer vs Thanos, 90's Ironman with classic Tony Stark & mullet headsculp vs 90's Mandarin this time, 90's Captain America vs Red Skull Nazi wearing uniform, Thor vs Loki, Punisher 2099 vs Fearmaster, comic book versions of Black Painter vs Killmonger.

8:04 that Line is of 2003 from Toy Biz its Called (MArvel Studios12 inch) the blade one was gorgeous, man Toy Biz was Cheap for so much , Toy Biz was generous

Second the motion on the Spot figure. I've always liked that weirdo.

Geeze that 12 inch WWII Cap is incredible. I can't believe I've never seen this till now. This series feels like what they attempted with the Marvel Studios series which had some nice releases also.

It would be cool if Hasbro revived the legendary comic heroes line.

I would of loved them to release some Heroic Graphics characters (Flair, Marksman/Huntman, Icestar, Foxbat/Flying Fox, Doctor Destroyer/Doctor Death) as part if the Legendary Heroes line. Ok...I'm a fan of the roleplaying game Champions, where the characters originally came from.

im really waiting for my 2nd version of Firestar ! She hasnt been done for 20yrs ,so this IS good news

I still have all my Toy Biz marvel legends, they are my favorite!!! I stopped collecting when they changed packaging.

The Legendary Conan frost giant thingy was epic as well. Find a pic of that bad boy. Amazeballs

I used to love getting the toybiz figure and loved how they came with the comic

What if....there's still a Kay Bee in a closed mall still has the Toy Biz Marvel 3 for $10 bin still sitting in it.

I'd love to watch your take on the Toyfare exclusives.

All I can think about toy biz making marvel figures is translated to marvel select

Ive always wanted a Rocketeer figure, but none of the ones produced could move his head, looking up for flight poses, so i always passed on them. Im picky i guess!

9:40 no question that Rhino design was re-used for the 4-inch-scale 'Power Charge Rhino' released in 2010 www.figurerealm.com/actionfigure?action=actionfigure&id=31253&figure=rhinopowercharge

Most of those Toy Biz Marvel Legends & Legendary Heroes figures he talked about actually did come out.

It makes me so sad that we never got that classic Darkhawk. While I like the ML one, it's not really my Darkhawk. There was just something so badass with that boxy helmet and wings. I guess the MU one comes close to a classic Darkhawk so I am happy that we at least got that. Here's to hoping Hasbro decides to release a Walgreens exclusive Classic Darkhawk!

Wow how very neat, and kind of bittersweet at the same time.

I don't know about the actual reasons behind this but ToyBiz' Marvel Legends were way easier and cheaper to get here in Germany than the Hasbro ones. You could get a figure for 16,50€-20€ throughout the 2000s. Not in large stores like ToysRUs but small comic book shops. Now they are 25-30€ if you can even track them down.

what if was the last comic series i actually enjoyed as a kid.. makes sense, i loved mad & cracked.

I wanted that Vanguard figure so much. A Mighty Man figure would also have been great.

I think all of us Adult Toy Collectors are related in some way, lol, the way you describe yourself as a collector at the beginning, sounds like you're talking about all of me and my collector friends too, lol, Toy Biz has always had some great figures, they had a sweet WCW line in the late 90's too. Awesome Video as always Guru. Respect.

I had a hulk an captain America figures that transformed they got released in Canada or some how my mom got a prototype

And this all started YEARS ago when Toybiz made two highly articulated Spiderman figures as part of a hodge podge classics style line. I still have my Symbiote Spidey from that first series. I also remember the first marvel legends series with the terrible tacked on Toad figure, I bet that fig has some value now since no one bought it? lol

The classic Marvel Legends S1-S11 was the shiiit. The Pitt series still best baf out of that classics line. I remember I had 3 of those because i like it so much. Never thought prices would sky rocket

The produced Darkhawk is not so much a composite as he is based on his appearance from Runaways and the Marvel Team Up League of Losers. I hunger for a classic DH myself but am pleased with what we got. Now if they could just make a Sleepwalker...

The 12" Ironman mockup at 8:32, is a repaint of a figure from the toy line ZMDC (九港大戰) from Hong Kong back in the days. You can check out their ig and facebook page: @zmdc_hk .

If Toy Biz were to continue making Marvel Legends, the price of each figure would only still be around $12.00 (They were around $7 to $8 then). The Moment Hasbro took over in 2006, They raised the price immediately to $15.00 a figure! I missed those days when I can get a complete BAF set for around $45.00.

If toybiz never died out, I think we would definitely have mythic legion details and paint with toy biz articulation but with updated proportions. They would've ruled the 6in scale of all time. I mean hasbro is not too bad now but for the price point and very lack of articulation, toybiz would've done it all and for less.

IN 2018 Amazing Heroes tried to fill in the gap left by Legendary Heores and they had some great choices including Nexus. Unfortunately the Kickstarter failed. I think they were going to try again with smaller launch but I don't know if they did or not.

Sometimes Toy Biz had issues with body proportions and some of the sculpts could have been better but they were way more durable than Hasbro. That probably doesn't matter to a collector but it matters to me and my boys when we play with them. As a kid would you rather play with an AWSOME Wolverine with his claws missing or a decent Wolverine with all his parts?

I've only got Marv figure from Sin City I got it second hand for $16 Australian.Id love too have that Pitt baf

Is it possible to bring toybiz back? Like start a whole new line of made up heroes and villains? That should be cool.

Legendary heroes was a cool like. I had the whole first series. I still have dredd and judge death. The problem with them was the plastic, or maybe the paints used were awful. My dredd got super sticky with age , his paint just peelled off, and his leg just snapped off out of nowhere his armor pieces also snapped off, madman yellows pretty easily, death just seems to be rotting. And pitt... Pitt, though awesome also has a tendency to get really sticky. we actually got rid of him recently cause he was just deteriorating. And it's not like he was being played with or anything. Not sure what the problem was but it's very unfortunate. I had a to completely refurbish my Dredd. (New paint job, and resculpt of the armor) it's strange cause no other figures I have from that age or even older have done that. And in my hunt for a loose madman in good condition I noticed most are horribly yellowed. It really sucks cause this series had some great figures that I'd love to own again. But yeah cool series with weird issues. Wish it would have continued. Maybe get a the tick figure at some point. Love your channel btw. Been watching your stuff a lot lately. Very interesting.

You forgot about the Judge Dredd villain Mean Machine, he was definitely planned for wave 3 (also a character called Aphrodite IX) the pictures are online with a quick google search, the detailing on Mean Machine are insane, he would have been the stand out figure of wave 3. There have been a few Dredd figures over the years, but no Mean Machine, the wait continues.

Am I the only one who would love a new Vampirella figure??

I got the Legendary Comic Book Heroes Conan the Barbarian Twin-Pack recently. Absolutely love them! :D

Video game Annihilus is another one I wish would of made it out. I think a few were released overseas, though.

The modern day upgraded look and consistency with hasbro for me all started in 2016 with the juggernaut build a figure wave, they some good figures before that but not consistently. But since 2016 they have been knocking it out of the park on a regular basis.. They have surpassed toybiz with the overall look and sculpt now if only we could get the weathering and paint apps that toybiz had, it's the last and final step needed and hasbros transformation will be complete..!

Man i never knew they made a cyberforce figure!

I know it was after you left Mattel but I'd love to hear your thoughts on the evolution of DCUC to DC Multiverse. I was sad when Mattel lost the license as they'd been doing some great stuff with DC Multiverse.

So it sounds like Toy Biz had pretty much run out of ideas for the Marvel Legends line, outside of 12" dress up Megos and transformer knock-offs, and instead wanted to focus on their Legendary Heroes line that would've drawn a much smaller crowd. I was heartbroken when Hasbro took over the line, because those first few waves were pretty lame, but I'm almost happy now that Toy Biz failed before they could run the line into the ground like that.

That photo of the Pitt series of Legendary Comic Book series looks oddly familiar.

Seriously still need Forbush Man!

Nice video but what about Bi-Beast or Red King? There's also Disco Luke Cage and Crimson Dawn Psylocke. I'm pretty sure there's also a hand painted flame on Super Skrull.

Why did so many JLU figures get cancelled? I have all of them. Even a real Holiday Hal Jordan.

THIS is exciting!!!

I actually saw those Marvel Mechs figures at Toys R Us

Forbush Man, Milk and Cookies, Spider Ham.

One figure I wanted but was mysteriously missing was Lady Deathstrike from the X-men 2 movie (X2) ? Hasbro are starting to make the Fox X-men figures, so hopefully one will get made at some point.

Nexus would have been really cool to see

They were going to make Darkhawk? I missed out on Darkhawk?!?

Damn im kinda sad to see all these planned figures and sets. Hell I dont usually got for in a BaF line but I would for a quinnjet

So many Rocketeer figures and I still can't get a Jonny 5 toy.....

Toy biz made the best figures if i think of the toxin and venom that they made those where beast figures and can stand next the the new figures, and still blow them away

i got some toybiz figures and there great, my favourite is first appearance hulk and 2002 hobgoblin

Thanks for the videos! That was another good one! And yes Hasbro! Make a figure of The Spot! He would be great with extra hands and feet accessories that look like they're punching and kicking through his portals!

what if toybiz made mortal kombat figures it would be awesome

Toy Biz partially acquired Marvel, not the other way round.

What is the figure in the thumbnail

Oh I would have loved more Conan figures! I had the one from the 2 pack but one is never enough

Hey Scott, I know you no longer work on any DC product, but in your opinion, what would it take for DC to take notice of a company like Jazwares to do 6" figures? I've been looking at their Fortnite figures in the 6" scale and they seem like they'd knock it out of the park with DC. I loved DCUC back in the day and they still look great, but I'd love a 6" line with the same level of articulation as Marvel Legends.

What was the industry reaction to toybiz’s demise and the eventual transfer of the marvel license to hasbro? Were people surprised?

Man, I didn't realize that there was a 6" Rocketeer from Funko 😥 I hope secondary market value isn't high.

I dig marvel but not a rabbit hole I want to go down ...lol..cool vid

I feel like the Hasbro ML series QC is hit or miss.

Pretty sad there wasn’t more Spider-Man figures

Hasbro need to do the real ghostbusters like the spiderman retro figures

I would have loved to get a Conan figure

Hasbro has a wolverine/jet/transformers figure coming soon

I have the bishop bald

9:03 I'm above making a lowbrow joke, but I will point out it's there.

What if Scott saved the DCUC line

Didn't Toybiz aquire marvel ?

Cool!

thats alright man, even McD people eat in Wendy's..lol!..yeah, but glad for DCUC & Motuc, they saved me money from Hasbro's dark days

Other than Rocketeer and darkhawk it really kind of sounds like we dodged a bullet most of them sound like absolute garbage

I just threw out a whole bunch of toy biz figs rats ate parts of. Toy biz missed the boat not making a pied piper irony man armor. Ooh la la!😄

Hello this is really cool what if there and I'm glad you didn't make some of the stuff lol

Toy bears has more articulations than Hasbro problem solved

ToyBiz was the best hands down. Fuck Hasbro!

“Piece de resistance would be the Rocketeer” Rock-a-who?

I always wanted to collect Marvel Legends but found the Toybiz versions so ugly. The proportions were often off due to the articulation being clumsily designed. Overly gangly arms and legs, long feet, ball shoulders etc. I love the Hasbro line though and have a large collection of those.

A DC universe classics please!

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YO WTF IS UP WITH THE SUBTITLES

Short answer would be we won't get MCU. Marvel Legends line will still have ugly looking figures. Mattel's DC Superheroes line probably will see more improvements with articulation with vocal fans complaining the lower articulation with Toybiz super articulation figures with occasional articulated fingers. We would have gotten the animate Fantastic Four line, more 12" Marvel Icon figures, a few more Marvel Legends variants and an X-men 3 movie toy line. But also with the rumor of Toy biz owing factories money. In the long run maybe they would have been folded. Heck maybe Mattel may have gotten the Marvel License.

Great content as always. Hey Spector, I'd love to draw something for you, perhaps a Darkhawk piece. What do you say? Take a look at some of my work on ig if you get a chance @artbytheanomaly This isn't a self promo, I'd just like to thank you for your vids with an original drawing. Keep up the great work!