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The TJCS crew discuss Marvel rejecting the Russo brothers to direct Avengers 5 after the Russos expressed interest in the project.
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@RandomBlackGamer 3 месяца назад

People complain about the current state of Hulk but forget that it was the Russos who neutered him in the first place. They flatout admitted that they did it to raise the stakes of Endgame. Not to mention it wasn't just them that worked on those films. It was also the excellent writing of Christopher Markus & Stephen McFeely.

@riddim 3 месяца назад

They didn't write the script

@RandomBlackGamer 3 месяца назад

@@riddim there are certain ideas that the directors get the final say so on though. Smart Hulk was their decision and stated they didn't know what to do with him.

@warriornico80 3 месяца назад

@@RandomBlackGamerdo you feel like smart hulk is a permanent thing? I'm not saying I prefer it over angry hulk, but it made sense narratively that Bruce finally could control it considering what happened in avengers 1, and after Thanos neutered him as well 😂 but I think they could bring the real hulk back out and it still make sense for Bruce's arc. At least I hope

@paulchambers2379 3 месяца назад

Winter soldier is still my favourite mcu movie.

@majorlazor5058 3 месяца назад

If anyone says Civil War is their favorite Marvel film I respect their taste. If they say Infinite War is their favorite I look down on them a bit. It’s an issue of choosing story and character development over flash and action.

@REDANDSILVER741 3 месяца назад

This is insane from Marvel when their biggest hits have been from the Russo Brothers

@Slomoshun4u 3 месяца назад

They are two of the most overrated movie creators I think I've ever seen. We've seen the mediocre trash they create when they don't have 50 producers and writers making them look good

@jrad410 3 месяца назад

But its not like the mcu was something they built

@TheRockisaBondMovie 3 месяца назад

@@Slomoshun4uyea they didn’t have anything to do with the success 😂

@TheRock-zf3jp 3 месяца назад

It would have been a hit whether or not they directed it . Plus I doubt a tenthpole film like Avengers they had full creative control.

@Smspodcast_ 3 месяца назад

A dog could’ve directed avengers 3 and 4 and it would’ve ended the same. Wtf are we talking about?

@GAMEBYTHEPOUND 3 месяца назад

Disrespectful I’m sorry. I would have never let the Russo brothers go or Ryan Coogler. I would have locked all 3 of them in for the next 10 years and they can release there passion projects on Hulu20th century. Phase 4 would have been better with them

@majorlazor5058 3 месяца назад

Thank you for including Coogler. Even if Black Panther 2 was a step down it was still one of Phase 4’s best.

@py16667 3 месяца назад

Pretty sure they left by their own accord & this is an unconfirmed rumor that people are quick to believe

@rupertbath2748 3 месяца назад

Such an odd decision as having them back would generate hype and interest to struggling MCU.

@lethalintersection 3 месяца назад

For most people 4 of their movies make up the top 5 of the best Marvel movies

@graymoon3000 3 месяца назад

It’s absolutely ridiculous. They have done the best marvel movies. They way they brought all the characters in on Infinity war and civil war was brilliantly done

@DemonQueen1975 3 месяца назад

Their budgets may be out of control but the Marvel movies they've directed have made a killing at the box office for the studio.

@zshakur 3 месяца назад

The Russo Brothers made the 4 GREATEST MCU films PERIOD!! Infinity War and End Game are MASTERPIECES!! Winter Soldier and Civil War are AMAZING!!! MCU is drowning right now. They need the Russo brothers.

@thmsbadger43 3 месяца назад

Nah

@shotsofkennessy 3 месяца назад

RIP Marvel. They’re worth the money. My excitement for the MCU was low, now it’s non existent other than Deaspool

@lennydaiglejr3094 3 месяца назад

Both Extraction films were awesome.

@178fluffy 3 месяца назад

They didn't direct those films. Sam hardgrave did.

@lennydaiglejr3094 3 месяца назад

@@178fluffy I’m aware, John also commented on films that did not direct.

@MarekWachowski 3 месяца назад

21 bridges was not that bad. I enjoy that one.

@CamPlays355 3 месяца назад

This obviously means there trying to move away from that era

@antwanefort 2 месяца назад

All Hulk fans are happy about this news. lol

@AkronRain69 3 месяца назад

Whaaaaaat?!? Those two have directed all of Marvel’s greatest box office hits!!!!! Marvel is just asinine at this point!

@GefilteFish. 3 месяца назад

true....but they were successful via MCU. After endgame....their movies have not been good

@solidcrusader8935 3 месяца назад

Time for Russo Brothers to join James Gunn's DCU and produce reboot of Justice League for DCU fans.

@rbleaks818 3 месяца назад

Nah James Gunn would toss their resume after looking at what they have done since Endgame

@majorlazor5058 3 месяца назад

New moderator fits well. She is really good. You can tell she’s done this professionally.

@EnzoTheBaker 3 месяца назад

If Deadpool 3 is as amazing as we all hope, maybe the rumored Shawn Levy might be the one to direct Avengers.

@Galactic123 3 месяца назад

As directors OR Producers, John? Didn't they produce Everything Everywhere All At Once? You said you loved that movie!

@mikeglass2460 3 месяца назад

All the Marvel movies that the Russo’s directed also had the same 2 writers .

@loooooooooby 3 месяца назад

That budget excuse is a load of BS. An absolute steaming pile.

@WallyB. 2 месяца назад

Well this aged poorly…

@joshuawilliams9976 3 месяца назад

The Russos did 21 Bridges, Grey Man, Extraction 1 and 2.. I loved em all

@HTHAMMACK1 2 месяца назад

They all sucked.

@joshuawilliams9976 2 месяца назад

@@HTHAMMACK1 I like that opinion for you, thank you

@kwhitevuu99 3 месяца назад

21 Bridges was awful??? How? I love that movie.

@HTHAMMACK1 2 месяца назад

Because it's terrible. Just because you love it doesn't make it a good film.

@kwhitevuu99 2 месяца назад

@@HTHAMMACK1 same way all those movies are award winning but when I watch them I can’t stay awake.

@swornbrothers5193 3 месяца назад

Kevin Feige's arrogance. This movie could have been good

@ichiban308 3 месяца назад

Feige isn't funding these movies. Iger is.

@HackneyShark 3 месяца назад

Don't be surprised if they go to DC now lol

@djnc9488 3 месяца назад

James Gunn is gonna scoop them up & pitch them with a big project.

@SaltyDog09 3 месяца назад

They publicly said they wanted to do the new dcu Batman film, but Gunn gave it to Andy Muschietti. They havent really seemed interested in anything else DC publicly.

@joshjones9749 3 месяца назад

Marvel is taking a page out of Jerry Reinsdorf's book...they're gonna look about as good as the Chicago bulls have looked since Michael Jordan...

@pitchking5496 3 месяца назад

THIS PART! 👆🏾

@lukelaps9298 3 месяца назад

That’s good, their directing is grey, flat and 90% green screen

@Jamyes9909 3 месяца назад

They've made the best movies in the MCU. Not only that, but Infinity War and Endgame are two of the biggest movies of all time.

@lukelaps9298 3 месяца назад

@@Jamyes9909 they directed them sure but they didn’t write them

@svenm4740 3 месяца назад

@@lukelaps9298 Did you watch a special directors cut of their movies? And your comments would be a textbook example of moving the goalposts.

@SIMON_SAYS_SO 3 месяца назад

Save the Russo Brothers for X-Men movies.

@byronkennedy7203 3 месяца назад

I was thinking the same thing. They're great at handling a large cast.

@waterjack3 3 месяца назад

The Russo Bro films have been the THEE best films in the MCU! pair them with the writers, Marcus and Mcfeely!

@joshuaromerogonzalez945 2 месяца назад

This aged like milk

@TavareHill 3 месяца назад

I think the screen writing team for the next avengers movie will be more important than who directs it

@blatherskype25 2 месяца назад

Wait, Extraction and part 2 was pretty good sir

@shanepennington4264 3 месяца назад

4/4 is just insanely good. All I’m sayin.

@Alex-vx8sm 3 месяца назад

The Gray Man 🔥

@TheMightyMRP 3 месяца назад

Watch Feige hire a Disney + TV show director instead of the freaking Russo Brothers for Avengers 5. Literally every single Marvel film's budget goes way up these last few years, but the Russos brothers doing it would suddenly be bad? And there's an old saying, "if it aint broke, don't fix it". Russos may not had success outside Marvel, but they've been successful with Marvel projects every single time. You need them Feige, you can't hire a Disney + dude for such an important film, or anyone who's worked on these last subpar films these last few years.

@py16667 3 месяца назад

It’s not that they just didn’t have success after Endgame, they’ve put out very lackluster content since, no studio should be too confident in them at this point

@under_score3829 3 месяца назад

It's also important to remember that the Russos never had writing credits on their Marvel films either. Christopher Markus and Stepehen McFeely were responsible for those screenplays. So even if you did get the Russos back, they'd be directing Michael Waldron's script. IMO, I think any Avengers movie written by Waldron is in serious trouble, regardless of who's directing it...

@TmDuX 3 месяца назад

They mentioned in an interview they wanted to direct secret wars, I bet Marvel is aiming for that, will see, chillax people

@PassiveAgressive319 3 месяца назад

Winter Soldier is my favourite MCU EVER! What is Feige thinking?

@Jab-Cajun91 2 месяца назад

Business is business

@rahnekallon609 3 месяца назад

I could've sworn you enjoyed Everything Everywhere All At Once. They produced that

@johncampea 3 месяца назад

They had nothing to do with the movie. They handed off the rights and kept a "producer" credit, but were not involved in the film in any way. That why they weren't on the stage when they won the Oscar.

@rahnekallon609 3 месяца назад

@@johncampea Ahh, I see! How weird. Thanks for clarifying

@jrad410 3 месяца назад

Directors in mcu are largely swappable. So much of the story and character build in Marvel are built up by Feigie and others.

@majorlazor5058 3 месяца назад

I totally disagree. Eternals and Black Panther 2 both has rough and rushed productions. But Coogler made a decent film while Chow made one of Marvel’s worst films ever.

@xaviergoudeaux7530 3 месяца назад

They literally talked crap about working with Marvel a year after Endgame came out. I wouldn’t expect them back. Talent talks and money walks.

@Jay-jb2vr 3 месяца назад

Womp womp

@Guzmania 3 месяца назад

Unfortunately, Russo brothers' styles are pre-2019. It no longer fits Disney's style, which is pleasing fans.

@zshakur 3 месяца назад

Disney is only focused on pleasing a certain group of fans. They are loosing by doing all this pandering....

@majorlazor5058 3 месяца назад

Pretty sure if Disney worried about pleasing fans they wouldn’t have such a drastic lower fan rating.

@Guzmania 3 месяца назад

@@majorlazor5058 yeah... i meant Russo Brothers' style is to please fans andit no longer fit Disneys business strategy.

@majorlazor5058 3 месяца назад

@@Guzmania gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up.

@MrRobertGillan 3 месяца назад

@@zshakurYou’re so worried about “pandering” that you can’t even spell losing* correctly

@liamhemstock2286 3 месяца назад

Honestly. Sam Raimi said he’d be up for it and I think he’d do a good job but I like him doing more dramatic and personal films. Coogler has been one name that keeps coming up. I’d definitely get Marcus and McFeely to write the screenplay for Secret Wars. Look. In a perfect world, where I have all the power and money I’m seeing if James Gunn can do it and if he can’t because of his work in the DCU then Lord and Miller would be my picks

@johntangen8324 3 месяца назад

I think there is more to it why Disney said no to the Russo brothers. Since theyve had so much success in the MCU, i bet they want to be paid with a big payday, probably upfront salary + ticket sales. And since Marvels movies have also had quite big budgets lately, they håpefully have learned and scale down abit. Keep it a bit more grounded/«real». I also think that Kevin Feige doesnt want to give the Russos all the credit for the MCU. But i bet the payday is a big deal. The Russos probably want a very lucruative contract.

@LazyEyeNZ 3 месяца назад

I agree with your points. I do think the Russo's would have wanted a huge payday for their work alongside backend bonuses and yes I do think Kevin Feige doesn't want to keep using them for Avengers films as it means they'd get so much credit. I also agree with John their recent projects haven't been great and go way over budget.

@HARLEMHEFNER 3 месяца назад

The Russo Brothers served as producers for the Chadwick Boseman film 21 Bridges I enjoyed it. Outside of that yeah they been hit or miss

@dank2171 3 месяца назад

Extraction was pretty awesome .

@johncampea 3 месяца назад

I'm honestly glad you liked it. I thought it was horrendous. great action scenes, but barely better than The Acolyte overall.

@DaveMaguire 3 месяца назад

I was gotta say, the Russo Brothers did a fine job producing/writing the Extraction films. However, all their other credited work after Endgame have been a wet fart imo.

@maxpops8427 3 месяца назад

@@johncampeanow you lost me putting it Above ‘the acolyte’ of all things

@Ieson75 3 месяца назад

It's all about the writing. Maybe they need to get the writers of the Russo's films. A shit story will still be bad with speilberg directing.

@lukeflyswatter3203 3 месяца назад

One thing we discovered about the Marvel films is that they wasted a lot of money on the CGI because they didn't plan the scenes ahead of time. Basically they fixed everything in post. And they redid entire scenes causing artists to do a lot of overtime. If they had planned scenes like Gareth Edwards did with The Creator then they would be way below budget.

@joshuaromerogonzalez945 3 месяца назад

It's all because Marvel tends to choose inexperienced directors for their projects, because most of the time it's Kevin Feige and the executives calling the shots creatively

@billymaness5456 3 месяца назад

The Grey Man was AMAZING

@johncampea 3 месяца назад

I’m glad you enjoyed it. Honestly. But for me it’s one of the worst big budget movies I’ve seen in the last few years.

@ahmedfouzan2018 3 месяца назад

@@johncampea It's a decent movie, but it's bland. I didn't feel anything while watching it.

@Sams_I_Am 3 месяца назад

@@ahmedfouzan2018yea I take what he says with a grain of salt.. I mean this the same guy that liked David Ayer’s Suicide Squad 😂

@DrKumkar 3 месяца назад

Who cares about other projects? We know their record regarding Marvel. The hype alone is worth it. Playing D for Disney is pretty wild dude.

@munny_1206 3 месяца назад

Scaling back on the quantity of projects produced by Marvel frees Feige up to be a lot more hands on, like he used to be before phases 4 & 5. I think as long as Feige is driving the car it doesn’t really matter what director is navigating. I know it’s not the best analogy but you get what I’m saying

@specialed171 3 месяца назад

Yeah if Feige is hands on the project, it doesn’t really matter who the director is. They just need to coast with Feige’s guidance

@dondayelbano3262 3 месяца назад

Russos gave them their highest grossing movies and also arguably their best movie in CA: TWS. If this is true, it's ridiculous. I'm apprehensive about seeing MCU films in theatres now. The Russos would get me in a seat for sure.

@corndizzle25 3 месяца назад

21 bridges is definitely underrated, it’s not Awful John, might not be your cup of tea but awful? Respectfully disagree

@etherieeetheriee1636 3 месяца назад

I agree

@patrickbernard6640 3 месяца назад

Agreed.. I enjoyed it..

@rogerroper6769 3 месяца назад

I agree...

@PaulMaudDib2677 3 месяца назад

"Crack is one hell of a drug." Marvel 😂

@graymoon3000 3 месяца назад

LOLLLLL

@hearyeitskingj 3 месяца назад

Grey man and extraction 1 and 2 are Epic movies! Them Brothers make great Action Movies!

@nicholassiple7838 3 месяца назад

Love the Russo bros and their 4 mcu films are all in my top 10 mcu films overall. I imagine the combo of their rising budgets and who knows how much $ they might be asking to direct both salary + backend % although i love them.

@Kaste11 3 месяца назад

Maybe they want them for Secrets Wars. 🤔

@Dru2037 3 месяца назад

They only want cheap writers and directors.

@HARLEMHEFNER 3 месяца назад

If it's budget concerns I completely understand. ENDGAME production budget was nearly 400 million. The Multiverse Saga has not been successful so a production of that size with Secret Wars Disney will lose money

@kevinmockono7048 3 месяца назад

I did enjoy 21 Bridges! It was a good time…

@Jordan-e3q 3 месяца назад

Marvel just keeps shooting themselves in the foot

@ninjagofire02 3 месяца назад

That is a gamble indeed. I Guess we’ll have to wait and see

@missnurse78 3 месяца назад

Ah man. I liked 21 Bridges !

@wyn0342 3 месяца назад

Sad about this but I get it. I think they don't want to have to rely on them. If they bring them back and its another hit, then they would be alway asked to be brought back every time they fail.

@waterjack3 3 месяца назад

i think rejecting them was a mistake...they should have been Captain america 4 and other films to complete the arc. They have a vision, and frankly, marvel doesn't seem to have a good one yet.

@orlandoalessandrini2505 3 месяца назад

Huge mistake

@mechamogaka6964 3 месяца назад

Bro they better have turned them down for Secret Wars!!!😂

@freshparkfilms 3 месяца назад

I'm surprised at the hate behind their movie the grey man, I loved it thought it was awesome and was hoping they would continue ue the series of movies that was supposed to come...Grey man is awesome people give it a re-watch...Cherry was great too what an awesome story and just like the whole journey of that movies main character was incredible 😊 give them another shot!

@RobertBurns71405 3 месяца назад

Considering how genuinely awful their movies have been since Endgame, I think this is a very good thing honestly

@MrRobertGillan 3 месяца назад

But all of their movies IN the MCU have been top notch

@RobertBurns71405 3 месяца назад

@@MrRobertGillan to each their own, I just have a hard time seeing them making another good movie at this point

@GefilteFish. 3 месяца назад

@@MrRobertGillan were they top notch due to their creative/talents as a director or did kevin have a lot of input and there was the comics they can get ideas from?

@Jay-jb2vr 3 месяца назад

Huh?

@AtlantaJonny 3 месяца назад

1) Dance with the one who brung ya 2) This ain’t the time to worry about budget. It’s the time to worry about reputation & legacy.

@Smspodcast_ 3 месяца назад

They didn’t do shit for them.

@hartshaped 3 месяца назад

I’d love to see Christopher McQuarrie direct an Avengers film, he’s a director that can do set pieces in story, the action is well shot, he can direct ensemble team based characters and he is able to wrangle and collaborate with big stars. From what I understand I don’t think he’d touch Marvel or anything like that but I think he’d be immense to do an Avengers film

@carlxd467 3 месяца назад

I feel like Marvel is keep something very secret about who they want for their director to direct Avengers 5 and Secret Wars.

@DanielTorres_999 3 месяца назад

Whose the new question reader goood laawdyy😍

@jonathanmays8203 3 месяца назад

That's what I was thinking

@patrickbernard6640 3 месяца назад

Right! 😂

@Mr.LegendDude 3 месяца назад

I liked Extraction II and The Gray Man.

@TheBlaskar 3 месяца назад

Their budgets spiral out of control but so do their Marvel box office returns

@VeraciousMind 3 месяца назад

Hopefully they can come back

@juanluismendoza8655 3 месяца назад

It’s pretty shocking to look at the Russo Brothers’ filmography after Avengers: Endgame and wonder why most of them were disappointing. The best thing they did was producing Everything Everywhere All at Once and even in that film, their involvement was probably minimal. As for everything else… Cherry (bad), The Gray Man (bad), 21 Bridges (bad), The Electric State (unknown) As for the Extraction duology, it depends whether you think the action in those movies could compensate for the bland writing.

@JoeJoe-lq6bd 3 месяца назад

This is a bad decision. Avengers 5 needs to be their big budget film if anything. If they're worried about budget on that, might as well just pack it up and go home.

@daydreaminavenue 3 месяца назад

Why the hell would Marvel reject the Russo Brothers? They have directed some of Marvel’s most successful films

@crispyfoxv 3 месяца назад

because marvel feels they replicate taking no name directors and have them create a great film.

@roko2xz47 3 месяца назад

@crispyfoxv ironic, cuz they've been doing this for the past 3 years and it's clearly not working and they are loosing money

@tbone2123 3 месяца назад

At least the hulk will be safe from them ruining him more

@blakebonecutter 3 месяца назад

Marvel has never been a director’s first studio. Nearly all of them are replaceable. Not surprised.

@FelipeNinio 3 месяца назад

I bet you the house that if it were Chapek in command and this story came out, it would be him in the wrong.

@Playmaker251000 3 месяца назад

This makes me wonder what the Russos were like to work.

@nendoakuma7451 3 месяца назад

They let it float soon after Endgame that they’d like to come back for a Secret Wars movie. I seem to recall that they have been publicly critical of Disney a few times since they left, at least when Chapek was in charge. i don’t know if that is a factor

@jeshurunabinadab6560 3 месяца назад

Good, let’s move forward

@BrontoSmilodon1 3 месяца назад

People are going to curse Feige if avengers 5 is just ok

@tarb1320 3 месяца назад

LOL people already have been doing this since phase 4.

@BrontoSmilodon1 3 месяца назад

@@tarb1320 yeah people have been putting the avengers movies on a high pedestal even though they're just ok movies that are on par or slightly above the Bayformers franchise.

@PrimeTime__ 3 месяца назад

Russos gave them 4/4 hits but number 5 is questionable. This is a joke. Disney just doesn't want to make good cinema anymore apparently.

@tophercabba 3 месяца назад

wasted 180 million on the crapolyte lol but yea dont give these guys the money smh

@TheShadowlord148 3 месяца назад

I doubt itll be that bad bc quantummania was shot under bob chepek and he took alot of creative power from kevin. So seeing that igor gave him his previous power back the movies will go back up in quality

@mightheal 3 месяца назад

I can see them being turned down for the Avengers so that they can do X-men. They'll be better used for X-men because the story for that will most likely be far more character driven where as both the Avengers movies will be more spectacle driven.

@bentertainmentproductions8451 3 месяца назад

They are saying Avengers 5. Avengers 5 isn’t Secret Wars. I still think they’d be great candidates for Secret Wars. That’s a trilogy right there if they want to do it justice.

@roko2xz47 3 месяца назад

It's Avengers: Eternity Wars, Avengers: Secret Wars and Avengers: Forever

@txag 3 месяца назад

It doesn't even have to be sub-par. If it's just mid/meh Disney/Marvel will get tarred and feathered.

@johngrayson9218 2 месяца назад

They produced Everything Everywhere All at Once too.

@johncampea 2 месяца назад

They had nothing to do with the movie. Zero. They literally just passed the project on to someone else and got to keep a credit. That's all. That's why they weren't on stage at the Oscars when it won best picture.

@justinlewis7942 3 месяца назад

I didn’t read all the comments, so if this has been said, my apologies. The the great Russo bros movies had the same writers. Christopher Markis and Stephen McFeely. That’s the duo Marvel needs to get. Then pair them with the Russo’s. That’s the recipe.

@lowgunberry 3 месяца назад

I have not seen Cherry but I actually liked 21 bridges playing the cop the detective. I thought he did a really good job in that role and the whole conspiracy thing with all the other cops so I agree with you on that one, but I understand the aspect you brought up that makes sense.

@SonGohan-gh1yl 3 месяца назад

I doubt this rumor is true

@LoveTheGiant 3 месяца назад

21 bridges, Cherry, Gray man were all solid movies....

@johncampea 3 месяца назад

I’m honestly glad you think so. I disagree completely, but I respect you like them.

@irishspagetti6565 3 месяца назад

and they're producers on everything everywhere all at once

@leblancgeorges1479 2 месяца назад

Isn't Captain America 4 costing between 350 and 400 milllion?(Same thing with the next Mission impossible)The Russo brothers aren't the only ones who can go over budget.

@Mrlivelifeherbal 2 месяца назад

I thought they brought the russos in as producers for that too

@WhatShallEyeDo4U 3 месяца назад

Who the fuck would pick Spielberg over the Russo's for an Avengers film, John? 🤣

@Mupeta. 3 месяца назад

I would.

@WhatShallEyeDo4U 3 месяца назад

@@Mupeta. Enjoy the Ready Player 1 of Marvel, then.

@HTHAMMACK1 2 месяца назад

@@WhatShallEyeDo4U Dude, you talk like the Russos Marvel films are masterpieces. They aren't even close.

@WhatShallEyeDo4U 2 месяца назад

@@HTHAMMACK1 those words never came out of my mouth. And compared to what Spielberg has been putting out the last 8 years... Most of us would take the Russo's based purely on action comic book films. And yes, talk about the Russo's flops all you want, but have any of their marvel films been flops or have been highly disregarded by fans? Not at all.