As always, I appreciate those of you who are watching. Hope you have a fantastic day. If you enjoyed the video and want to support the channel, you can use code DJAY123 on Fortnite or you can use the same code on our store, cosmobunny.shop ! Also, we did play through this game on Degenerate Plays. Here's the link to that channel! - www.youtube.com/@realdegenerateplays
The one thing I hated about the game was how short it was When I got the Symbiote I was hyped but after only 2 hours it was already removed? I understand not every game has to be GTA length but it was way to short with the symbiote I wanted to have it for atleast 6 hours of story and strong writing but we get none? We get one scene of Peter being a prick and then he goes full monster mode it doesn’t feel natural. I was hoping it would slowly make him more aggressive and make him actually kill someone. They played it so goddam safe that it’s embarrassing that Sam Raimi actually pulled it off better and people said that version was the worst
New raimi suit looks better. But this game is seriously lacking actual content. No combat challenges, no new combat animations of any kind outside of the abilities, 300 mill probably just went to them fleshing out the city hopefully the last one actually takes advantage and adds dynamic boss battles in the streets bring back chase missions as crimes , maybe a combat gauntlet allow us to fight waves or literally anything. People defending it because they don’t like side content when a lot of us who still play would have loved some sort of replayability that isn’t really there this time around. I 100 percent agree with every point you made. They need to give insomniac 6 years at least I love fit more at launch because I love Spider-Man but the post nut clarity hit very very hard
It’s the fact that the first game had far more variety in its missions and gameplay overall, besides swinging and skills obviously. Like the second game, as much as I love it, just feels like “swing till here, beat some guys, swing away and maybe press ONE button to o stop a chase”.
The symbiote saga to me requires as much care and buildup as the Infinity saga to truly do that story arc justice. Peter Parker wore the black suit exclusively for a few years in the comics before Venom was even introduced. Trying to tell that story in a 2 hour long film or 24 hour game just never works out. The 90’s Animated Series and Spectacular Spider-Man have both done the symbiote arc way better due to them having more time to develop characters in their shows.
Personally when it comes to the symbiote arc, don't continue using what happened in the '94 cartoon. Stop letting Peter get aggressive with it. It's over used and it's now personally getting annoying to see in all media when it comes to it.
ssm symbiotic arc is extremely overrated honestly eddies turn is very drastic i feel like usm show handled it better and introduced agent venom as well
@@naolerena3193 well, Eddie was supposed to have a redemption arc in Spectacular but the show got cancelled before that could happen. So all we’re left with is the villain arc and I think that side of Venom was handled quite well in that show.
@@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX what im trying to say is his turn was rushed and was character assassinated when he tried to kill gwen stacy multiple times. I enjoyed the show due to the great voice acting and how stan lee ditko inspired the show was but this was one of the worst versions of venom i’ve seen
It doesn't help that the Spider-Man 2 defenders make this game their entire personality but have very little media literacy of other Spider-Man stories.
Facts if you see they literally made a separate subreddit from official one that down votes anyone who validly criticizes the game for not being the second coming of Christ. It’s ridiculous because if so many act like this game has no flaws we will get the exact same game with a couple animations if we are lucky for the last kne
Yeah and they get super mad if you just say "Hey will there be DLC?" or even the people who criticized the face scans and motion capture, etc. They just get really mad that you don't slurp up every facet of the game.
@@P8nplaysI think my issue with that is just how unlike their hero a lot of those people are. It's like they don't actually understand why Spider-Man is supposed to be a special character, at least from the way a lot of these people act.
@@DegenerateJay the thing is a lot of us just want the game to be the best it can be if they had more content and fun side activities even a couple races for traversal mastery that maybe unlocks a different skill or move would be great we don’t even get the semi race droid missions anymore just the ones with the wingsuit and many people think we just think the game is trash when in reality it’s not but it should have been rivaling Arkham city they had everything set out to do that but instead had to rush partly blame Sony but short have cut mj missions for more venom and main characters development
The more I play Spider-Man 2 the more I find wrong with it. When I first played it, I was on the hype train thought it was worth game of the year. When I played it again when new game plus came out, I noticed how many times Peter got ragdolled or nearly died, next play through I noticed how Miles was feeling left out and unneeded and how it was never really addressed in the story. Just beat after beat I noticed was either missing or just poorly executed. For having an entire section devoted to music, the games story didn't have any rhythm.
Li and Miles should've had their own story from Peter where Li teams up with other inmates or Just regular street criminals, until Miles confronted him, they advertised the game as two Spider-Man but it's really just Peter's story ft Miles,
I got off the hype train before it released because of the obnoxious fanbase in the lead up to its release. It doesn't help that a friend was one of them saying "I'm gonna rage if it doesn't win game of the year". But finding flaws the more you play is definitely accurate.
How is Peter almost dying a bad thing? He got his ass best but he also did more than anyone else. Same thing happened in the first game too, he almost died twice.
I think a lot of suits look like ass (including most of the update suits) and the third act could’ve used a little more refinement, but my biggest gripe with the game is how there isn’t single player DLC yet. This game has been out since like, what, October? And the first update for the game that improved on a lot of it’s initial problems came out in March. That’s 6 months apart! And then another one that added some more not-so-good suits came out 3 months later in June. Like I’m genuinely worried Insomniac will just skip out on additional content for this game just to jump to Wolverine or the Venom spin-off, kind of like how Nintendo skipped out on Tears Of The Kingdom DLC, or how Rockstar skipped out on RDR2 and GTAV DLC. Y’know, speaking of this Venom spin-off, couldn’t they just make that DLC for this game? All they really have to do is add some additional coding to the Venom you play as in the Oscorp mission. Then you could give him his own swinging mechanics, on top of his own skins, missions and side content. Hell, it might also be possible that the Symbiote somehow finds it’s way to Eddie Brock, and they reveal additional backstory on how Peter even knows who he is, unless if they decide to make it revive Harry again from his coma.
I’m not sure if this is true as I would have to find the source but from what I read the DLC for the first spider-man wasn’t received as well so when the miles morales game came out it was a stand-alone game. So it’s possible that the sales for the DLC affected them possibly doing DLC for Spider-Man 2 and instead will probably just make a standalone game. Maybe those storylines could be concluded in the supposed venom spin off to try to maximize sales instead of releasing the story in pieces like the city that never sleeps dlc. I personally didn’t like the story dlc for the first spider-man game. Having hammerhead be the main villain just didn’t work for me personally. But what I said about the sales figures for the DLC might not be true there could have been many other reasons.
@@GeekBlvdit probably didn’t help that the first game dlc was announced like right when the game was coming out and was maybe $30 if I remember correctly? I feel like 6 months out from 2’s release considering all they’ve added was quality of life updated, time and weather, ng+ and mostly horrible suits the game feels like it’s dead. I’ve finished ng+ and already got the platinum when it came out and I don’t think I’ve touched the game since
While I do kinda agree with that, I’m also a fan of how they went all out with this game and included way more stuff than I thought they would, especially going with Venom’s King in Black thing
I didn’t mind Harry as Venom as I felt it worked well in this universe, but I do agree that the entire storyline was rushed. My biggest issue was how they handled Venom as the main villain with him trying to take over the world. To me, Venom works best as a villain turned anti-hero, but given his actions in the story I’m not sure how they could redeem Venom in a possible spin-off game now.
I honestly found this game to be a disappointment, i wasn't looking to hate this game as spider man ps4 is one of favourite games. But having said that, this feels more like an expansion than a true sequel.
As hype as I was for SM2 and counting down the days to launch I only had any excitement for the venom parts of the game other than that the entire game was a drag and I cant even complete NG+ and I’ve completed the first game multiple times and even got the platinum twice for it on ps4 and the remaster
What would revive this game is a directors cut, it needs it. I’d much rather have a directors cut for this than a Venom game 100%. I would love to actually play as symbiotic Spiderman with alot more story and have more venom time and have carnage be a DLC than have a venom game and abandon this game. The venom game is o unnecessary when we have this that is incomplete.
Ngl, I don't really like this portrayal of Kraven. Taskmaster from the last game is kinda what I wanted him to be. A lone warrior, studying our moves and fight patterns, and ultimately hunting us down. Him having an army felt so out of character.
@@trevorphilips9065 how about Alistair Smythe? He's a famed robotics expert that could've been hired by Norman as a candidate to find a cure for Harry. Since he's a robotics scientist, why not make androids or anti-spider bots while we're at it. Bots that can emit sonic sensors to eliminate Symbiote option (not that it's possible to begin with since the symbiote abilities are mixed in with Peter's normal abilities).
@@trevorphilips9065 there's a lot of possibilities here. Kraven's role in this is because he wants to die fighting. Not even because of the thrill of the hunt, but purely because of a suicidal fantasy. That's stupid. I'd rather it'd be like a situation where Harry does kill someone and gets their just desserts for it. Maybe Smythe experimented on Harry or the symbiote with the excuse of "evolution" or "progress"
At first, I really liked this game. I would defend it to hell and back. But now, after having a lot of time to think about the game... I don't really like it... and I hate saying that because I loved the first game and Miles Morales... The story of this game wasn't very good, to me. I'm amongst the crowd that thinks that Peter was nerfed in this game, and I don't really like the pacing of the story. Also, You have nothing to do after you finish everything aside from stopping crimes, and you can't replay story missions or enemy bases, and that's frustrating to me, because after doing all that, the world feels... _empty._ I also had a hard time with taking down enemies in this game when I felt like I shouldn't have when I replayed both the first game and Miles Morales just days before this game came out. Especially the Symbiote enemies, which I HATED trying to fight, even though I was on one of the easier difficulties of the game. All things considered, I just...don't like Spider-Man 2 that much, if at all, and I won't be checking out Wolverine or Spider-Man 3.
@@EmmanuelPrudhomme I appreciate your perspective, but my opinion is based on my own experience with the game, not external influences. Let's respect that different players can have diverse, valid opinions about the same game.
I like this game but I wanted to love it. As is I think it's fine and it's a good game but this story was really meh compared to both of their previous outings. At least MJ wasn't annoying anymore.
The story had its misses for sure, but I still think it’s vastly superior to Miles’ story. I really just could not care about Phin 😂 Kraven was so better as an antagonist
Imagine this game had the storyline like Spider-Man PS4 but had the same friendly neighborhood app and activities from Miles Morales and Sm2 with the gameplay and transversal from Sm2? That's what Spider-Man 2 was supposed to be like
I actually think mj was more annoying this game lmao, shes just so incredibly unrealstic being john wick now its actually immersion breaking. Also beating a dead horse here but that face... that aint mj from spiderman 1, cant convince me otherwise
@@KIN1311 Oh I don't like that stuff either but in 1 I thought she was a nag constantly. Dude took a bite of pizza after not eating for a day and she freaked out.
As someone who loves Spiderman 2, I agree with a majority of your points. However I do want to point out that GOW Ragnarock also didnt have NG+ until later. This is intentional of course to continue engagement. However, I do believe it has to do more with Sony and not insomniac holding it back at least IMO. I agree with most of your points disagree with some but I do also feel that I cant be excited for DLC because we dont know much. I do think insomniacs are listening considering the number of quality-of-life changes they made i also wonder how much is in their control.
I like Spiderman 2 but people called it a masterpiece to quickly its a good sequel but it doesnt even come close to topping the first game story wise. I hate the swinging in this game but the web wings wasnt something I expected to enjoy
@@no.1spidey-fan182 TBH, i'm worried about SM 3, the only villains they got left are Green Goblin and Carnage. Carnage is not exactly known for his depth and the way they wrote Norman is previous games is not any different from Doc Ock or Harry.
@@onglanh5329 Same. I'm not interested or hyped for the 3rd game until further notice at this point. The sequel killed all my hope for this franchise😔. I did see the Goblin design though and that's cool and I guess
@@onglanh5329I think they might tackle Carnage in the DLC for SM2 since it wouldn’t make sense for the symbiote to exist however long until the events of Spider-Man 3
My Man chose to speak a very controversial truth here and honestly i do have to agree with this. Despite the weird arkham tank here. The Arkham series had great pacing with each other and i always come back to playing each of the arkham games but when it comes to Spiderman, only Spiderman ps4 is the only one i replay again.
I after much fuss got to NG+, and it was more fun than I anticipated. I didn't expect to like it but some things still felt rushed, especially after the Kraven Death. It made me think: "Damn, that's it?" If Insomniac wasn't rushed by Sony for them to get another exclusive to put in the game awards, then I feel it would've been much much better.
Precisely. Apparently, Insomniac was supposed to have received an extra year to work on the game, which means Spider-Man would have seen its release this year in place of what we got.
While I'm not a huge fan of this game compared to the others, I do remember God of War Ragnarok also took forever to release more content, so it might be a Sony thing.
@@shaunavant532pretty sure it was 2 years for Elden ring. But that game is massive and the dlc takes 40+ hours to beat so you can’t compare that to a spiderman dlc
They have to have dlc coming out, just due to the leaks. Edit: I'm an absolute simp for the Advanced Suit 2.0 and the Upgraded Suit, easily my favorite suits.
I think the “leaked dlc” is just more cut content they forgot to remove from the files. I think they’re putting all their eggs in the Venom spinoff basket along with Spider-Man 3
@@Kyle_Hanson which one? Webman, black suit variant or red, black and green? All three are garbage in my opinion. They should’ve just updated the default colors from orange to red and make the blue more vibrant.
Nah bro we long over due for some DLC for the game, we got DLC for the first game like a month after it came out….we’re like 7-8 months after launch with no post content at all.. other than a few horrendous suits. I think we might just have to wait for another 2+ years to see what happens 🤷🏽♂️
Damn this game came out 8 months ago already, i remember being so excited for it and when i played it it was a good and fun game but it didnt live up to exactly what i was hoping, i dont know if id say i was disappointed but maybe slightly let down by some aspects. But im still very excited for the 3rd main installment and i hope its the best one yet if sony isnt being assholes trying to rush it out
My favorite alternate suit for Peter is the Last Stand suit. I love the street level look for it. And for Miles, I personally love the Purple Reign suit cuz I love the colors.
My favorite suit in Spider-Man 2 is the black suit & the secret wars black suit. I honestly hate the suits insomniac make that are not from the comics. They look so bland or terrible. Still waiting for the DLC. Thanks for the vid Jay God bless you brother.
My favorite Spider-Man 2 suit would probably be the Sam Rami black suit. Although I also liked Miles’ hooded suit with the cargo pants. It kind of looked like Red Hood from Arkham Knight.
It’s definitely more on the simple side, but the Boricua suit for Miles is a favorite of mine. It was a pretty cool inclusion, and when I sent my Dad a picture of the suit, he liked it so much that he wanted to give the game a try. We’re Puerto Rican, and there aren’t too many custom outfits in games with the flag as a major design element, so it was an instant hit for the two of us.
My favorite suit is the final no way home suit. I think the team for Spider-man 2 had there expectations set way too high. Because if you remember they wanted to add the mechanic of being thrown to another wall onto the streets making the fights feel grand
The final product we got has me heavily worried about Wolverine. That being said, Ragnarok had extra time due to Judges surgery/recovery. Will Santa Monica receive a similar rush on their new IPs and the next installment? Sony’s history with micromanaging while still being successful is really unfortunate all around
Here's the issue with the time strain argument, they added mechanics and shit that was completely contradictory to Peter's character, they gave Peter high tech expensive technology that he wouldn't be able to afford BEFORE he even signs on to work with Harry
I think what really made this a lackluster sequel was the story. Everything about the writing felt safe, which is especially a problem for the black suit/Venom arc since that's the last thing you want to be safe with. I actually don't think the problem was the black suit arc being as short as it was or having Kraven and Venom in the same story. I think the just executed it in a pretty bad way, which sucks since I think the story was close to being pretty good. I also do have ideas on how Insomniac Venom could've been really good without diverging from what we got, although I'm not sure if I should share them here. But the point is if they were more bold and do something like explore Peter's inner dark side, it would've made the game way better.
Unlike the first two games, spider-man 2 has no replayability. I cant play this game for a second time without being bored. Insomniac games clearly needed another year to develop this game
Makes me glad people aren’t afraid to look objectively at a game regardless of how highly you might want to to hold it. Also my favorite suit is the classic spidey suit with the black and red design. Makes me feel like I’m playing web of shadows.
2 месяца назад
When is the last time we got a road map for anything in these last what, two years? Why are these companies rushing these game studios?
2:06 they can focus on so many things bc they outsource their games to sweet baby inc. which is why they get leaked so often. It’s also why the general quality of these games have dropped so much.
I was looking forward to this game immensely leading up to the release, so much so that I played through the entirety of the 2018 game again for like the 6th or 7th time a month before, just to get that hype built up to maximum. After getting it fresh in my mind again and comparing Spider-Man 2 to its predecessor, I was left really disappointed. I felt that the story beats with Peter having the Black Suit were incredibly rushed and that it was very much ‘here one minute and then gone the next’. I was really looking forward to having Peter slowly deal with the suit’s corruptive influence on his mind and having it be long and drawn out process to really sell the impact it’s having on him, his mindset and his relationships the longer he wears it. It also really bugged me that MJ treats Peter like he’s completely at fault for what he does while wearing the Symbiote and expects him to apologise profusely when he was literally under the control of an alien life form that wormed its way into his brain and changed him from the inside out. She still doesn’t acknowledge or admit that it wasn’t his fault even after she herself gets possessed by a Symbiote and experiences how it completely takes you over and brings out your worst side firsthand.
I've never gone to having so much interest for a game pre release to just not carrying anymore post release. spidey 2 is not bad by any means but for whatever reason I have no urge to replay it. The pacing issues of the story make it clear it was rushed. A lot of the side quests weren't as good or as memorable of the first game. Graphically speaking the game looked amazing and the gameplay itself was crisp but IDK. I just don't care anymore. I understand the hacking thing played a big part in whatever plans they had for Post game DLC but giving us the silent treatment is like out of sight out of mind. I considered uninstalling the game the other day. Just curious if anyone else is at a point they just don't care about this game anymore.
I don't have a PS5 so I'm just hoping whatever version hits PC feels definitive and complete. Insomniac being run so ragged at Sony is unfortunate. Makes me worried for Ratchet and Clank (which was my favorite franchise from when I played on PS). On the symbiote story end, I will say that's a massive Spider-Man storyline to tackle. It's gotten so popular everything wants to include it but it doesn't really work like that. Take Web of Shadows for example. In that game the symbiote is like the entire plot and even then it's a plot you jump into the middle of (you don't start from when it's origin story). You then spend the entire game either choosing to reject the symbiote or falling into temptation for its power and aggression. I also loved how you make those choices, but in general the good and evil ending isn't much a thing anymore in games. In comparison this game includes so many Spider storylines including a second Spider-Man and setup for Silk and Green Goblin. It's gonna be a huge wonder how Insomniac manages to fit everything they're alluding to for a Spider-Man 3. Honestly I'm looking more forward to a Miles Morales sized Silk game in between.
I absolutely agree with everything you said here. Insomniac set the bar so high with the first game that the sequel suffered for feeling less than outstanding. I think there's a compelling narrative here about Peter Parker balancing his personal life with his superhero antics that I still enjoyed and have resonated with. Still, it tried to focus on so many different themes and character arcs that made the final product messy.
Alot of money was wasted on advertising. I remember seeing the same spiderman 2 ad on youtube 4-5 times in 30 mins. That's just overkill. Any fan of spiderman was going to know the game was coming out anyway
I just recently got the game yesterday, and I've been enjoying myself just cause I wanna chill after work. I do think people who think this is the peak of Sony's exclusives and or games themselves are fooling themselves. Overall I can't wait to fight Kraven, and I have loved the small details so far.
I don't know what's going on over at Insomniac. They take months to add the smallest of updates, and each update introduces new bugs, they add horrendously ugly suits nobody wants, they keep insisting Miles and Peter need the same amount of suits which is a terrible handicap for Peter, there's no news on DLC. As much as I love Spider-Man 2, its kind of dragged down Insomniac's reputation a bit.
I may be the first one to say this but marvels Spider-Man 2 has really died out since release man. Feels like this game went 2 steps back compared to the first game. Swinging/ combat wise they taken stuffs out which angered me and also they didn’t go beyond in that aspect. The game has been out for 7 MONTHS….. and still no dlc and ppl wonder why the game is dying. I got bored of this game cuz it didn’t have that replay value like it did the first gam. Also another reason why this game is dead is cuz the symbiote plays the exact same way as the other regular suits (apart from surge) but outside of that it’s the same combat/ dodge/ swing animations and the finishers… you can’t even morph into the symbiote in the game🤦🏾♂️ it don’t feel different when wearing it cuz it doesn’t play different. Insomniac really let me down
Literally should’ve just been the Symbiote arc as well as Martin Li. Just a darker story, have shit happen y’know. Let’s have a game where the hero ‘loses’ then the 3rd game can be about ‘being greater together’
honestly i’m really disappointed with what there doing with spider man story and gameplay wise SMPS4 was one of the most overrated spider man stories i’ve ever seen and the combat was bare bones with op gadgets i’ve loved what they’ve done with miles tho. SM2PS5 is more of the same thing but at least kraven was great and venom was fun to play as
Yeah the second half game felt a bit rushed. Definitely a flaw but still I have to say insomniac did handle it pretty well. It’s still a great story and I think it’s a bit better than the first one. I love how they handled The friendship between Harry and Peter, Kravens arc, Miles temptation with vengeance, and the cherry on top, MJ isn’t irritating anymore. I despised her attitude in the first game. It’s still a 9/10 for me.
@@Mop154 Did you come up with that one all by yourself 🙄? Dude, the game is great. It has an awesome story and there are many moments in the game that are very memorable.
If there is anything, I'm more tired of in the Triple A space concerning superheros is the focus on realism, and not a solid art direction. I'd kill to have another Spider-man game in vain of Ultimate Spiderman and Spiderman Shattered Dimensions. With gameplay being a focus and less of a cinematic experience. I enjoyed the first Insomnic Spider-man, but i always thought that this series was limiting itself in gameplay depth, but atleast it made up in story. But when I saw Spiderman 2, and heard of the story being weaker than one. It didnt excite me enough to buy it as I felt like it was a glorified expansion. Same issue with God of War & God of War Ragnorok.
This game is almost like an amalgamation of spider-man ps4 and Miles Morales, both good and bad. The game sets up Peter and Miles’s stories well where Miles has to confront Martin Li the man who killed his father and Peter has to fight his dying best friend who’s trying to take over the world. The problem is how these characters are explored and the balancing of these villains. Miles is forced to meander until he fights Li and then near the end of the game when he teams up with Li, those are the highlights of Miles’s story in this game. Harry is too underdeveloped to make the audience really care for him and is almost a carbon copy of Phin except his evil actions are caused by venom rather than his desire for revenge on someone. This is because the game is split between miles’s world and peter’s. Their worlds only ever intersect because of spiderman and that’s about it. This is why the stories feel disjointed and stitched together. Kraven is disserviced by the story as he doesn’t really have anything interesting going for him. He’s not the antihero of stas and he’s not the villain of the comics, he only goes after the sinister six and that’s it. There’s no previous history between him and peter, there’s no point where Kraven is building up to fight either of the spiderman and he’s not much of a presence in the game. His feats are him killing the villains off screen and scorpion with a stab wound in the gut with his own tail which is more anticlimactic than it sounds. He just doesn’t do much to progress the story. When venom becomes a villain it causes the story to go into over drive where there’s a “take over the world” plot and venom kills kraven in a narratively unsatisfying way just like the other dead villains. Venom feels really hollow and lacks a lot of what makes him appealing in the comics.
The flame side missions should’ve been a part 1 of a multi-part dlc for carnage like how the ps4 dlc was done. The game should’ve focused on Miles and Peter trying to stop Kraven from hunting the villains where they team up with the villains to fight off kraven, but in the end he kills the villain. It shows peter and Miles actually try to help the villains instead of just telling the player that. Have kraven be the one who hired taskmaster and have kraven kill him to show how dangerous he is. Kraven should also chase after wraith and prowler because it’s weird he goes after black cat but not them. Harry should be more careless and immature because he’s been in that tube for at least a year and in that time peter has grown up and lived his life, that should start the rift that pete and harry have and it’s widened because pete is constantly leaving harry behind to be spiderman with miles, this develops harry’s jealousy of miles. Have mj worry about peter leaving to risk his life instead of upset that she has to support both of them financially because she understands that peter is saving new york when he leaves , this is because kraven is a lot more deadly than Peter’s other villains. Have harry be a hero longer than he is and maybe his mistakes cost the lives of the villains the spider bros are trying to save this causes peter to tell harry to stay behind on missions giving more fuel to harry’s fire. Have Kraven be venom, it’s a really cool concept that doesn’t just throw away the starting villains that the games tend to do, this elevates kraven as well as giving venom the spotlight in the game. Peter has to fight kravenom to get the symbiote from to harry who’s dying without it. In the end peter is forced to either destroy the symbiote or contain it to save harry from being twisted by its effects and this will lead to harry to take the experimental g formula which turns him into the green goblin, because his father is too old to be fighting spiderman and harry still has a grudge against peter and miles. These would improve the story imo and be more narratively satisfying compared to what we have currently. Here’s hoping Sony learns their lesson of rushing out undercooked products (they won’t).
Personally now that I got Peter’s Spider-Verse suit back I’m ready to move on from this game,I’ll just do one more NG+ playthrough and that’s it,if DLC comes then I’ll play it,but I’m not going to follow or even think about this game anymore.
I liked the game and the story was okay but not great and I hope we get some dlc mainly because I would like to see carnage followed up on after the side missions but I kinda think it’s not happening now but I hope I’m wrong also my favorite suits are the black Rami suit for Peter and the Black Panther inspired Miles suit
Honestly overall Spider-Man 2 sucked it was only ok because it was Spider-Man. The story was ass Peter got emasculated time n time again, no content and a rushed story
I actually didn’t notice the issues with Venom at all. In fact, the pacing was really good in my opinion. My view on this (and why I think the game has been criticized a lot recently) is that Spider-Man and Spider-Man Miles Morales were pretty much perfect. How do you follow up with that?? Spider-Man 2 is pretty similar with a few additional elements to the gameplay
I still love this game but it has flaws Like parts of the story Also no way home suit is my favorite suit Edit also to all of the people that say “ThIs GaMe Is WoKe” shut up most of what yall complaining about is what Spider-Man would do to help people like saving a museum or helping a teen with his prom date or helping a BLIND lady Woke has literally lost all meaning by these people
I just wish insomniac was given more time. Even if the story stayed the same the game is so buggy, streets of npcs standing in the air, enemies spawning in buildings, ai being odd, sped up animations for npcs, then theres downgrades, downgraded crimes and missing crimes and npc variation in crimes not working, go swing a civilian, 9/10 its a guy with a old face, headphones, the accessibility options regarding time of day, the whole game despite having incredible jump in quality of the gameplay itself and the visuals but so much feels like its missing the quality and attention to detail that msm and miles morales had in those games. I didn't think the game would release in a state that genuinely felt unfinished because those 2 other titles didnt feel like that at all
So, I'm mixed on this Jau, I usually am right there with ya but, I actually think Spider-Man 2 did exceed expectations least for me. From the King in Black venom, to the black suit, to kraken all of it. I was very happy with the game. I'm not just to defend it, I'm just giving my honest thoughts. It feels like what it be if web of shadows were made today, not as good but, still really good Also favorite suit ouch um... if we're talking in game suits, I'd say last stand suit. Mods? Easy, Unlimited suit
Idk I'm probably not gonna buy or play the next one. Spiderman 2 was really boring, I like the swinging and gliding but I didn't get attached to the story this time or any of the side stuff like I did in the first one. Also some of the side quests where odd.
Honestly this isn’t a surprise with everything going on around the game overall still we don’t know if we are even going to get the DLC expansion right now who know at this point Insomniac is definitely in a weird unfortunately spot with part of this game I like and also don’t like in it all make me very cautious optimistic for Insomniac in the future with upcoming games from them just my thought here
I just got done with the game not too long ago. I agree with your points as far as the swinging is cool the web gliding is a nice touch and the symbiote affects is really cool I just felt like the ending was kind of rushed Am I the only one that feels like the ending was rushed.
The game just didn’t live up to the first one. The first spiderman was (in my opinion) one of the greatest games ever made. I had several hundred hours in that game. Spiderman 2 on the other hand, I think I have maybe 60 hours, and it would’ve been a lot less if not for the delayed NG+ release. They just didn’t bring enough new to the table. Story wasn’t nearly as compelling, the game in general was too damn short, and there were not enough stakes in the plot. It didn’t feel like there were any repercussions at all at the end. We kind of just end up in the exact same place we did at the end of the first game-Harry is incapacitated because of his sickness and Norman is obsessing over trying to cure it. The only big thing that happens is that Peter “passes the torch” to miles, which doesn’t even make sense narratively anyway because Peter didn’t really suffer any consequences in this game, so his temporary retirement doesn’t make sense. Not to mention the complete lack of end-game content other than small bullshit side missions (helping someone ask out his date to prom… REALLY?!??) or mini-gauntlet levels that are repetitive as hell. The only compelling piece of side-content is the Wraith Missions, and they’re arguably more enjoyable than the main-game story
I feel like the first one was so great that the expectations for the sequel were very high. Sadly it didn’t meet those expectations. The story felt kind of short since they had to include both miles and peter’s stories/perspectives. If they had made the game longer then i think this could’ve worked out or at least give the writers solid space to do both characters justice. It’s still a good game but not as good as the first one in terms of story.
The final product we got has me heavily worried about Wolverine. That being said, Ragnarok had extra time due to Judges surgery/recovery. Will Santa Monica receive a similar rush on their new IPs and the next installment? Sony’s history with micromanaging while still being successful is really unfortunate all around
I can’t respect miles cause he don’t use the N word. Yall got a black character and just use him as a diversity quota. At least in across the spider verse, miles feels black. This miles do not act like a black New York teen. And this applies to all the writing. It’s like it was written for a children’s show. Very immature and childish dialogue. Peter feels like a baby. Everyone and everything feels babyish. I hate it
Honestly, I think they should’ve let the symbiote stay until the next title. I’m the comics or tv series Peter never just has venom for just one episode. We need to naturally build that connection with Peter to make it immersive. Hell, keep the story like that until the part where Harry wants the symbiote back. Let Norman test his medicine, become the green goblin and harry gets mad at Peter for killing his father and get the symbiote in the next iteration back. Then all the teasers and Tweets where they said „venom doesn’t wanna conquer the world, he wants to kill Spider-Man“ would’ve made sense and we would get a nice connecting story instead of a rushed and very weird 3rd act
1:00 What the hell ? Dude Insomiac had 5 YEARS TO FINISH THE GAME , 5 YEARS . And sony gave them 300.000 millions dollars . Dude come on . This is all Insomiac Fault stop defending them
The most likely explanation for what’s going on is that when the SM2 game began Predevelopment Insomniac had already started implementing possible future SP DLC’s into the very first build of the game but with Sony’s Executives riding high on Insomniac’s Success wanted to capitalise on that success as much as possible & as usual have gotten in their own way yet again by making poor Insomniac immediately start working triple overtime on multiple other projects all at the same time. So Insomniac puts the SP DLC development on the back burner for the time being then as the SM2 was halfway towards the finish line work ramped up for the Wolverine project & the Live Service Spiderverse Game was cancelled which costed Insomniac & Sony more or less 200 of the $300.000 they claimed was Spent on SM2. So consequently Sony couldn’t afford divert any further resources & funds towards the SM2 Project which unfortunately resulted in the planned SP DLC’s being Cancelled outright. But Thankfully because the Suit Brand Deal DLC’s contracts have already been signed & publicly announced by that point Sony couldn’t just go back on that deal to cut more costs. What’s most likely to happen going forward is that all of the Planned SM2 SP DLC is going to be all bundled together into the Spontaneously Greenlit Venom Project since it’s technically officially classified as a separate project that will guarantee a greater marketing return on their investment than the original previously estimated next to *NO RETURN* on their DLC SP Investment development costs since it was probably planned to originally be released for Free which Sony can’t afford to do anymore due to spreading Insomniac way too thin with little results that have costed them money they don’t have. So long story short we seemingly may have lost the planned SP DLC but we are going to get the same content & resources repurposed, and re-used for the solo venom game as a consolation prize which is the best case scenario for this hole Sony’s dug themselves into. I hope I’m wrong & Insomniac announces SM2 SP DLC sometime in the not too distant future but that realistically is still very unlikely. 😢
They could have had double the game for half the money. PS4 is such an amazing game, I've played it 5 times and it still puts a fat stupid smile on my face with how much I love Peter. SM2 just turned me off massively. I technically appreciate it a lot, but I don’t love it, and that’s just so sad…
Ultimately, Spider-Man 2 is a GOOD game that could've been a GREAT game, but was rushed out the door before it was ready. Also, the lack of DLC compared to its predecessor is really disappointing.
I realize that’s not useable criticism, but the second game just gave me wrong vibes. I can’t quite put my finger on it. Maybe it’s a culmination of many small things I dislike. Then again I already didn’t like Mile’s spin off game, so maybe the first one was simply the right thing at the right time.
After hearing Sweet Baby Inc was involved with this game, and now involved with Marvel's Wolverine. The Future of insomniac pushing certain agendas will be the destruction of their company. This is just my opinion, so if you disagree feel free to leave a comment.
@smaaron_j_46 We're not. No one wants homosexual throat shoving flags, side missions and references scattered everywhere in a superhero game. It's pathetic, was blatantly put in for the sake of hitting a diversity quota. That deaf girl side mission was icing on the laughably bad cake. 😅
I just completed the game got the ps5 for ncaa football but needed something to justify going to ps5 too. The lizard chase was their biggest wow moment which they had been already shown off afterward that no real wow moment in the game. It doesn’t got that amazing acting like uncharted 4 or 2.
I thought the game was mid. I loved the first one and was obsessed with it but this one story wise felt a little flat. There were some great set pieces and side stuff but I got bored. I’m tired of spending hours getting collectibles that brings nothing to the gave other then fluff.
I think ppl a lil to over exaggerate sayin this game is trash and it’s forgettable I have my problems with this game nd it definitely was rushed in sumn places but I still enjoyed it very much so
I really enjoy and enjoyed this game and thought it was a great game but I do think it wasn't like a game of the year title. But I'm so hoping it will recieve dlc or something.
Personally in my opinion with this game, its good. But at the same time, there were some things that should've been better. This game in a way reminded me of Spider-Man 3 (how the story was planned out). Imagine this, kravin is the equivalent to sandman in Spider-Man 3 (besides the other villains) and well venom is about the same as well with how short he is as well when it came to marketing and what really happens in the film/game. Venom is to much "symbiote" and not enough what makes "Venom" who Venom is. Venom shouldn't just be this "Hulking, symbiote based villain" let him use webs. Allow him to be "invisible" to Spider-Man's Spider-sense. Make him go invisible in general. Those are key aspects of the character that they don't do anymore which annoys me. Another thing that annoys me when it comes to venom is how the symbiote HAS to make the user more aggressive or more angrier. Here's a fun fact that people believe is true when its not, the symbiote was NEVER and i repeat NEVER aggressive when it first came out in the comics. It got aggressive by Eddies hatred and being rejected by Spider-Man. Since the '94 cartoon, all of that changed and now its over used and personally, annoying to see all the time across all media. They should really do their research with these characters from the BEGINNING. And not just use recent stuff. I understand wanting to use harry as the host of venom but add a better spin to it and if your going to market venom as the biggest bad of the game or whatever, then do that instead of doing this all the time in media. I believe they should've went more of the route of web of shadows for some of the mechanics as well since it would make more sense and actually use fire as a weakness to venom cause that's been apart of the lore of the character for so long. But these are my opinions on it. *I literally got platinum a little more or less then 24 hours after launch. That's how quick it was do everything
Tbh I think the symbiote making the user aggressive makes sense because it’s gives more incentive to get rid of it, while also playing into a theme of addiction. And I don’t think it’s bad to diverge from the original source like this. ‘94, USM, and Spectacular Spider-Man had symbiote arcs that were in some ways, more memorable and well received than their original 616 counterpart.
My favorite suit in the whole game is definitely the Raimi suit. I mean, come on. Need I say more? Now, when it comes to potential dlc for this game in regards to those beetle missions, we're unsure if that's even going to be the dlc. I mean, it's possible that this whole thing is just a cut part of the game. It's possible that the beetle was gonna play a role in the game at some point originally, but ended up getting scrapped. We don't know.
@@lightdarksoul2097 It may be basic compared to the more extravagant suits. But it's iconic. It has so much value to it. I like it because of what it means to me and to spider-man as a whole.
@@mijofalco6355 i can understand that. I prefer a bit more but then again many suits wouldn't exist without that one. Plus the web pattern was always cool
I usually try to defend this game from people who just absolutely hate it and think that it’s a terrible game but I agree it’s still nowhere near perfect. That being said I still hope we get some kind of dlc and I hope insomniac fixes some of these issues in the 3rd game
I think the game was great, but they released basically Spidey Arkham City so Spidey 2 was always going to end up Arkham Knight comparatively. But people had hopes for an Arkham City 2 essentially. And then everyone hoped for big dlc but the leak messed with that
