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Only thing Scopely will listen to is their income going down. Not sure why they would try doing this when we are on the edge of a economic downturn. Many people don't have the extra money to spend and it will just turn people off. They should be focusing on trying to get people to spend $1-$5.
Thant thankfully I doubt. All the current Epic characters are team players not plug and play capable like Mythic or Legendary. So I really don't seem them being able to tune for a Zuggs, Captain Bullion, ZIM and 2 unknowns capable node. Captain Bullion needs another Illuminati member with him or he becomes much squishier.
I assume it is a temporary release method. It would be too easy prob for a high value toon, perhaps good enough to make apo redundant? It sucks we can't get him all. But why not link him to an event like scourges then? It seems odd.
What we have here which has been going since the game launch is big spenders want to paywall they don't like getting crushed by light spenders ..last I heard a big number 1 alliance got rocked by a smaller alliance and they really get butt hurt 😅
Whales want a gap in pvp against light spenders and f2pers. While They have captain britain, they will win more CC battles, get the next legendary (that will also probably counter Captain Britain) So this will just make whales face more whales instead of us who either don't spend or spend little.
It's also just occured to me, that if you miss this spending event, and it gets vaulted, you will be locked out of the top content of the game for the following year (trials, legendaries, towers) even if you decide to spend at a later time! So imagine a trial comes out with some decent offers, but you didn't spend on Britain 5 months ago, meaning there is no chance you max out the current event, so there is no point spending on it or any subsequent event! Scopely are potentially going to lock people out of spending for the entire year!
Let's not get quiet about this over the weekend. This is outrageous! And we were on such a good path in game lately. For a brief amount of time it really seemed they listened and cared about the whole player base. I guess those times are over.
I couldn’t agree more. They were ok the right path to make the game explode in growth. That’s how they can monetize better than squeezing a small community. Grow the community and get back to micro transactions
@@DorkyDadMSF Indeed, make the battle pass cost $1,- and see the switch in income. There is no incentive for the people that only have $5 a month to spend on a MOBILE game to spend anything. With this, CC just turned into another mode I'm not interest in anymore. I will drop in ranking and eventually find myself with people half my TCP. They are players that haven't invest much into the game and will drop out because it isn't fun anymore. It takes a long time to build up a good reputation and an extreemly short time to ruin it.
I’ve spent more this year than ever before because the game has been fun, though I’d still qualify as a light spender as described in the video. The ability to progress and be competitive has made MSF my go-to daily game. But this announcement and all the implications? Screw that. I’m happy to drop down to FTP and if it plays out they way you and MobileGamer discuss? I’m out. I’ve no interest in going back to the original delayed legendary unlock design given how prices throughout the game have gone through the roof. No single toon is worth that much money. I’d rather buy a PS5 and a couple of pay-once games and never launch MSF ever again.
@@doriangray6985 maybe…orrrrr it might smack a bit more of reaching out trying to find like minded and confirming you aren’t crazy….but hey let’s assume the worst of people
@@Horsey1407I havent quit but i understand the need to voice your opinion in frustration/looking for confirmation of your decision. It sucks. I get why you're leaving. Hope you find something fun to get into.
Potentially locked out of the next legendary and in turn the one after that and in turn the one after that and so on and so forth. Potentially locked out of diamonds depending on how many go ahead and buy him and how polluted Crucible becomes with him. Once everything down to Platinum is full with him its game over for the non-havers in terms of reliably obtaining any form of diamond orbs. Potentially locked out various of characters and teams should they ever go back to win crucible instead of play to accumulate event points. Potentially locked out of the main core source depending on how good the locked out legendaries are in Arena. You really gotta stop and think about the knock-on ramifications.
The reason they are having a 6 character team is because illuminati will be required for future legendaries and they want the players to have 5 characters to participate. Thats why they made it 6. They have never done that before for a brand new team. "Oh thats a shame you don't have CB but you do have five so thats enough. good luck fighting mephisto on that last node!"
Watch this won’t just be an issue of CC gaps. With these many redirections and it affecting the next Legendary. I’d be willing to wager the next Legendary is for Arena. Even likely a Mephisto counter. If Captain Britain is as restricted as ZIM and Zuggs. They could effectively create a gap in Arena between the Krakens and Light-F2P that lasts an entire year. That will also effect the Prof X unlock.
Comparing this to the two zombie characters is apples to oranges. I have pretty much ignore those characters because there are a lot of other options in war and they are not required for a legendary unlock or other game modes. If they did something similar with spider society and/or alpha flight (which is likely if they can do it for a CC team), players would quit in droves.
I personally thought the requirements for OML were bad enough. We went from the scourges where it relied on strategy rather than pure star level. I maxed out my OoT and Cabal, but was stuck on the lower difficulty purely because of the star level on Starbrand and Leader. It just felt bad knowing I was missing out arbitrarily, particularly since I don't think those star requirements were announced ahead of time. This method is a kick in the teeth. Not only is have a god tier CC def team, but to also gate the next legendary behind this is wild. You just know difficulty of the legendary campaign will be based around having Captain Britain too. I recently started buying the battlepasses because I've played the game forever and felt it was a measure of good faith, but it hasn't been returned. Learnt my lesson and will stop spending.
Yes, I've commented this on both of your videos. You're the best CCs imo, i watch all your content. Been playing since defenders meta and I've never missed a day... but as soon as this goes live, I'm done. I've already let my alliance know as well. So thanks for all you guys do for the community. Peace
Ever since the new game director took over, the game is sliding more into a pay to win feel. Not saying that Scopely can't make money, but it just seems like they are taking some of the great things that they implemented last year and pay walling it. I have been playing since the beginning and this is the first real feeling of wanting to quit. I buy the passes, so I am not 100% f2p.
@@DorkyDadMSF I think the best fix is to just allow the unlock for him be 3 star requirement and extend the shuri and pym showcase to allow ftp a chance .
@@DorkyDadMSF It's worse than it was then though. In those days there was no crucible, there was no RTA, there was just Arena, and kits were not yet so dominant, pure power and a clever combination could still win the day. You lost far less back then for not having one of the legendaries unlocked yet.
@@DorkyDadMSF yea couldnt get oml cause i still needed some charcters and they game is like "here are some offers that will help with the oml unlock " and the offers COSTED FK MONEY LIKE WTF WHATS THE POINT OF THIS THIS IS USELESS CRAP LIKE AM F2P WHAT THE POINT OF THIS BS HUH!!!!!!!!!
and a add on it should be like the scourge and trial events like i know trials need specific teams but at least the teams can be unlocked kinda hard but possible but some of these teams can't be unlocked easily in the new legendary events like why
I wonder do you think its a coincidence that this news was dropped the weekend before the 4th of July long weekend. I am sure that Scopley will say that they are out of the office till middle of next week where they are almost certainly hoping the noise about this dies down. That said I think they made this decision knowing fell well the communities response would be negative and decided to do it anyway. So unless Scopley notices a sharp drop in the spending in the game they are not going to change anything. Unfortunately as a ftp player they don't care what I think. This is one instance whee we need to spenders to restrain themselves for a while and let that impact Scopley's internal numbers.
Been playing for 67 days and was considering buying some passes but not now, I'll stay f2p. People who spend deserve to be appreciated, by the devs and the f2p players but not at the expense of the majority of the player base, that just stupid imo.
Considering it took me two years to get Apoc unlocked and I’m also working on run 2 of DD6, I can honestly skip Illuminati if the negative hype is this bad, it’s hard enough grinding out the gold and mats to get ready for DD7. I want to get mad, but I’m like, at least its not a netmarble game.
As a contest of champions player also, all these frustrations sound so familiar....and if the pattern continues, they won't listen till they start losing lots of money.
Interesting. I have noticed that many of their milestone events require you to spend money to get points. And it's not like $5 it's 30-$100 because it's for new characters. I am on the verge of just going back to console gaming.
Sounds like Scopely told the envoys to piss off in that call. I'd be mad too. I'm a returning player after taking last year off and am probably leaving again unless they change this. I've already had one foot out the door after the OML release, so this is probably it. Maybe that's the plan for them. Thanos snap the endgame FTP and replace us with new players that will enjoy the journey to endgame while spending on time heist and passes.
Bro I don’t even play this game anymore and this pissed me off beyond belief. One thing that no one has mentioned is what happens when people spend large amounts of money on this team and they turn around and nerf them
People who spend will always spend and non spenders wont, but the problem is like in my arena shard i have a whale/kraken i talked to him , he is a cool guy and just to show jhe likes competition and thats what makes it fun for him, for example he puts shitty defences just so people can beat him and then he can try and get back up there , the moment you kill f2p those type of krakens wich i think they are a few will prolly quit aswell or spend less just cause they wont have any competition at all and it will get boring
4 year player, missed sunday cuz it was a busy family day. logged in Monday to not being able to auto stuff cuz of the "incentive" so basically penalized. the endorphin and dopamine hit the game feeds needed to go I deleted it. im done with MSF.
With this new team coming out should I upgrade AlphaFlight or should I hoard for Illuminati? I don’t think upgrading AlphaFlight would affect my alliance or my crucible at the moment. They’re not really a spider-society.
Yeah, this sucks and feels bad looking at what they are trying to get away with for future updates/releases/characters. This sucks a lot more for the end game players or those who are competitive in CC. But, as a fairly new player who doesn't know what they're doing, this is just something I cringe at and move on. Even if I shelled out and bought this new team, I wouldn't be able to build them high enough for it to make a difference, and I barely fight against people who have these current new teams unlocked. I rarely see Alpha Flight or OML in my matches because I'm so far behind. There are other teams/characters/game modes I'm trying to focus and catch up on. As a new-ish player, yeah, this sucks, but I won't feel the effects of this until after they become unvaulted. I wasn't able to get OML and I barely run into him in the game modes. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like Scopely is also doing this now because the new players [who I'm assuming they're trying to keep] won't be affected too much.
I think the game needs content that has some kind of path to it as long as they make it so you can grind for it without spending it shouldn't be that bad. It would be nice to have more things to work for. The economy has always been trash. You either buy the stuff or wait till it becomes obsolete and they open the flood gate. Going from counting miniscule amounts of things to having like 20k plus of the same thing that isn't valid anymore... feels bad. Spenders already have diamonds to separate from non spenders. Making player vs player content about who spent more seems like a feel bad for all parties.
Imo, people cry to much. We all know EVERY game or everything in life is pay to play. No one makes it to the top in any game without paying. Furthermore, I could understand the out cry if ftp were constantly paired against whales, but that isn't the case. It's a fair leveled playing field.
I know they plan to do a undying type release, but they were one offs every year, if they do this and peeps who cant get him for a year will kill cosmic crucible in its tracks for 90% of the community. If on the other hand they make it a pretty repeatable or constant event like apoc then people would only have to wait until new shuri and henry pym become farmable at least. Terrible idea in general tho, this is so daft
People will get angry but they won’t quit. They will also say they won’t buy this team but will at the end of the day. They know these two fundamental things. They also know that envoys (see Content creators) depend on the game for their income, so they will only go so far with the rage before they dial it back.
This is actually good for people who are truly free to play. It takes the vast majority of the playing base out of the market of even considering spending and effectively levels the playing field. It makes people stop spending so willingly and actually participate in a more fair game state. I say f it just make them all 1k--put the entire cost of game operations on the few with so much money that they are actually willing to spend it on a boost in a game so they can sit in the top slots while everyone else is able to actually compete in a more balanced state. Sure, it sucks for people who have been willing to pay historically in spite of it being rather expensive and now it is that much more. But most players are not in that position. If they make it expensive enough, they could force a fair game state (except very few spending--let them spend) and fund their operation and themselves almost exclusively off of the filthy rich of the world who can afford digital shards for a single character in a game with hundreds of toons just for a short-term advantage in hopes it bleeds into a longer term advantage in hopes of getting ahead in a game that has no actual end except quitting. I kind of view it as "oh well, I'll get him when almost everyone else does then whenever they actually give us the f2p mats." If the cost is expensive enough, that would be the only way to view it...and no one would get captain britain until f2p releasable and he's just sort of a pseudo-toon that no one has but is in the game and thus nearly entirely moot as if he was not released at all.
I returned to the game, quite a few months ago now, and it has honestly felt like it’s going the right direction and getting better since then, I even started to buy a few cheaper packs here or there. This type of thing is exactly why I left in the first place and would very quickly become a reason to leave again. I understand not being able to 7* every character, but collecting characters is why I’m here and this is just anti-fun.
I am a moderate spender and typically buys minimum offer to unlock. I won’t spend more under FOMO pressure. If I lose CC without CapBritain or cannot unlock next legendary, so be it.
First love your guys collaboration. My two favorites. Second. I also love that you have a seat at the table speaking for the players, not sure how much good it does, But probably a little bit anyway. Third, this is definitely a business decision made because of the old man Logan cheese unlock that they probably lost a lot of money on and they're trying to make up for it here. Typical, unintended benefit to the player base because of their sloppy work and then we all have to pay for it.
My guess: 1. They are gonna dish out offers first. 2. They do let people have a change to claim 5 stars for shuri and hank pym 3. But only after the whales and spenders FOMO into buying.
As an alliance leader in a top 100 raid and war alliance who has spent $700 per month on average during my time with the game, I will be quitting the game if Cpt Britain unlock is not changed to accommodate f2p.
Most recent releases has been barely 4 stars, some 3 stars, getting shuri AND Hank to 5 stars probably will be $200-$400 only for the chance to get CAP britain thats insane
yeah we need to keep pushing, reddit, discord, youtube- everywhere, scopely has to take this back. we as the whole community need to come together and make our voices heard
I'm a ftp player, but I understand that the devs need to make money. If Captain Britain is going to be paywall, it seems the best solution would be to make the free-to-play version better so that it's at least useful.
Dorky you made a good point about them listening to us but that was last year. I was so impressed how well the game was doing. This year though, they have gone completely deaf. They don’t care about how the community feels.
I've been playing since close to launch. I've never missed a character unlock. If CB is fully paywalled or the next Legendary is impossible I'm done. I've bought passes before never characters and either way I'm 100% never spending again.
CC is the only mode i enjoyed the 1on1 competitive nature. Big spenders already have a big advantage with stars, diamonds, getting full team in advance, Mephisto ect. Now this... I like punching up and I am good at it but i don't want this mode to only be a wallet contest, it already is partially but not to a unbeatable extent if you have skills. This will start to be that and if I stop caring about cc, not sure the rest is worth it.
I have been playing this game for years. I sopped and came back because i was able to get some decent characters now its back to having to spend real money. I'm not trying to spending that much money on a free mobile game
Last week i beat a 130 mil player, me being 79 mil. He had 3D on all SPS and read gear on most toons in crucible. This week similar thing, 125 mil guy, I beat him. I won these matches cause i follow the community, i check out counters, i think about my attacks, and they don't, they have a bigger stick and they hope that gets them the win. And when it doesn't? When a lowly player like mw beats them? They probably hate that. This shit Scopley is pulling is not to get a bit more money from light spenders, I'm sure they already have data which shows this is unlikely. This is to give the guys who do spend a lot a true advantage, an almost guaranteed win vs those who spend sporadically or not at all.
The stupid part is that they have such a bad lack of communication. All they had to do was say is not required for the next legendary specifically. Then half of the heat is off. But the fact that they're not saying makes me believe that he is, and they just don't want to do it all the heat at one time
Everyone acts they are up in arms threatening with leaving and saying its not ok. At the end of the day most of the envoys, atleast half the members of players voice and all spenders will just open their vallets and spend on him. And this happened with OML and other predatory events previouly. They know these are just empty threats.
I've been looking for an excuse to quit, this could be it. The game has gotten to big for my small mind I enjoyed it until the apocalypse crap started.
I recently started playing MSF again two weeks ago after quitting way back when the first dark dimension was introduced with Ultron and red stars also being relatively new and the level cap at 70. We were *itching and moaning back then with all the pay to win and paying for new characters to unlock legendaries. Glad to see there’s been no progress on that front for the last 4-5 years 😅
For anyone who is frusterated with scopely but still plans to continue spending, and does so using ultra cores, please consider being a little petty and buy what you want straight through the game instead of using the ultra cores bought through the webstore. For those that may not understand the impact of this: Apple or Google (depending on your phone) take a percentage of the sale of in-app purchases. But by pushing ultra cores through their 3rd party webstore, scopely retains all sales. So by buying your usual things exclusively through the game you can continue to play the way you're used to and still help get this message across by hitting scopely where it matters most to them, their wallets.
Just how big of a deal is it really? If you don't get Captain Brexit there, who cares? I don't understand what the big deal is with even having that guy.
Every time I look at the store, I think that they don't really know why people spend money on their game. Outside of the top spenders, people aren't dropping $100 to get 4 star characters at release. They are buying $10 packs, $25 Team packs, that kind of thing. These big money releases aren't drawing in more money than they wouldn't already get. It is just pushing out all of the other players.
Been playing just under a year, 40mil tcp, lvl 99. Frankly i've already gotten tired of these $ spending events & toon unlocks. I spend here & there on the odd battle pass, but there is no way im dropping thousands of $ to get a toon or do an event. Its frankly a slap in the face to the entire player community having 🐎💩 like these pay only events
MSF is running out popular marvel characters they haven’t used yet, more and more duplicates to the point its hard to know which version someone is talking about, it feel like their now in the process of trying to force as much milk from a stone as they can before the game implodes
I almost always buy the passes, and sometimes small offers from the web store. And yeah it feels ridiculous to call someone spending almost $100 a month a “light spender”, but yeah… this sucks. I spend but nowhere near enough for Scopely to even care. I personally think it’s absurd anyone would consider dropping hundreds of dollars for characters in these games. Seems like budgeting malpractice that people actually let them price characters this way. I will NEVER spend $100 on a new character. Ever ever ever.
I think this will affect your views too. I look to content creators for advice on CC. Now you can either showcase your strategies to the haves or the have nots...but not both. If you are doing CC strayegy videos using CB, I might as well not watch anymore.
I’m was a passive spender I’ve spent almost 1 lakh INR in this game which is huge in India believe me but now I’ve stopped spending since I reached a lvl now if scopley paywalls me then all the remaining money I’ve spent is shit? i will def quit if i see a captain Britain with my opp in crucible and I don’t
They booked lots of revenue for the year because of Battle world. That game mode was delayed so they are behind on their revenue targets and need to do things to make up the gap. Seems like they are making these decisions because of it.
Honestly if they said what vaulted meant it could solve 99% of this. Is it 3 months? If so, not a big deal. Is it a year? Now the community is mad. Scopley uses terms not defined before but relates them to other characters and makes changes to their release and does a shocked pikachu when we’re mad.
Scopely is really practising the rich stay rich and the poor get poorer… it perplexes me what their thinking behind this is. I’ve watched the entire video and I completely agree with what mrstephen has said on Discord. Understanding the fact that keeping things for whales/krakens competitive is one thing, but completely building a “Chinese Wall” between f2p and whales & krakens, whereby this character is not unlockable for f2p, is crazy. I stopped playing this game back in 2019 and started around end of 2023, I’m lvl 89 and have no complaint about my progression. I have like 80% of the roster unlocked, so no problem there. However, Cosmic Crucible rank-wise, I’m S2, and I’m gunna get to a maximum of Gold/Plat at a push if CB won’t be unlockable for the next 6-12 months. The way it might affect other game modes like arena and war is not even certain yet… what is certain is that without a FULL Illumination team, the next Legendary is unlockable for F2P… therefore, that’s 2 “exclusives” F2Ps lose out on😅…. GG Scopely.
The powercreep is out of control in this game. Theyre jusy taking it to he moon, and its horrible for past teams. Every new team is absolutely bonkers, their kits and passives are several hundreds of words. Bullseye's passive is like 5 words. They need to find a way to rebalance old character kits and stats.
They need to find a way to make money that doesn’t involve overscrewing the rest of the playerbase. They have experts over there. Someone needs to figure it out, or they need to hire someone who can. This isn’t rocket surgery.
Id be fine with not getting a legendary on first unlock. The infuriating part is leaving the return opportunity gated like the Undying team. Thats the fck this game momemt for me. That or i keep my 80$ a month and go ftp.
I was till a few days ago a "moderate" spender ($80-120 a month). With the Illuminati release info I have ceased paying a single penny towards this game. Let it DIE!