Marxism, Identity Politics and The Left in Pakistan- Dr Taimur Rahman and Dr Shahram Azhar - TPE 115 

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You have much better understanding of Marxism but we need further discussions.

Second that

I did many times

Yes defs

@@ThePakistanExperience yeah yeah 😁 i am watching. But you know still 1 hour isnt enough 😋

@@ThePakistanExperience i know man 👍 thanks. I am not negatively criticizing or anything. And i also know that most of the viewers do not want overly complex talk like this, but if it could be possible in future to talk about this topic, "I" would love that. 🙏😊

And know that I love what you do. This is the only podcast that is a dream come true, in the context of I as a Pakistani. ❤️

@@DWAGON1818 I answered the scientific portion of your question, but decided to delete it. Simply not worth a discussion given that you are already so sure it's not one. To answer the other question communist insurgencies exist in India, Nepal, Bhutan and the Philippines. Socialist/leftist groups are growing in Latin America. The most inspiring is the Palestinian struggle (although not completely communist it still nevertheless draws quite a lot from Mao). All these movements have a high level of political conciousness and mass participation.

@@DWAGON1818 the Palestinian struggle is not Islamic, it's distinctly labels itself anti imperialist and anti colonialist. It's large leftist support in the west is due to its Maoist influences and socialist style mass organizing. There are different parties in India both can be described as "big". The Indian communist party led a strike that was numbered in the millions (can't recall figures off top). Plus I only named the countries with active insurgencies, there are a bunch of third world countries with underground parties and mass support that have yet to launch anything. Marxism isnt going anywhere, especially in the third world.

@@ThePakistanExperience Thanks to you. Since I got direct access to you, through this comment I want to tell you this that your podcast has actually been a learning. Moiz and you were talking about 'social capital being attached to woke culture' in one of your podcasts from before. I actually used that as a point in one my answers the other day. :)

The seen and unnseen, newslaundry hafta

@@71espn Thanks. I will check it out.

The seen and the unseen is the only one i know that is quite good, other than that even i have not much idea except the famous bland ones, i also got to know about it after he did one on something related to pakistan and bangladesh with srinath raghvan

I love the seen and the unseen, newslaundry ke journalism tau ache hai, podcast be acha hae hau ga, will look in to it

@Sultan Mahmood: How many comments have you written so far? How many of them are relevant? Please delete all the irrelevant comments. According to you, Mr. Modi is a mass murderer. How many murders has he committed? Do you know that in April 2012, the Supreme Court-appointed special investigation team (SID) said that it had not found any evidence for prosecuting Mr. Modi? Did you ever describe General Yahya Khan as a mass murderer? How many people did he get murdered in 1971? You have condemned Javed Ahmad Ghamidi, a well-known Islamic scholar. Who are your favorite Islamic scholars? ​ @Shakil Chaudhary Thank you for your reply` I acknowledge your contributions, which you may think in your wisdom based on the 200 hundred yours of colonial secular indoctrinated background which you find yourself, Sadly your wrongly directed trajectory wits have nothing to do with human beings divine natural reality and/or your communities presuppositions of your media's breathless machine targeting and hoping to rectify human society for the sake of betterment, from your secular dim perspective. It is all a delusion in your secularised head. Allah is in full control of everything, ((( EVERYONE IS BEING DIVINELY TESTED))) قرآن؛43;36 جو شخص رحم اللہ کی نصیحت سے دستبردار ہوجاتا ہے ، ہم اس کے پاس ایک شیطان کو جکڑ لیتے ہیں اور وہ اس کا لازمی ساتھی ہوگا: () 36) (اور شیطان انہیں حق کی راہ سے ہٹا دیں گے) پھر بھی وہ اپنے آپ کو صحیح راہنمائی کا تصور کریگا؛) () 37) یہاں تک کہ جب وہ آخری دن ہمارے سامنے حاضر ہوگا ، تو شیطان سے کہے گا ، کاش کہ میرے اور تیرے درمیان مغرب سے مشرق کا فاصلہ تھا! () 38) اوہ کتنا برا دوست ہے لیکن اس دن تمناؤں کا فائدہ نہیں ہوگا ، کیونکہ تم ظالم ہو کیونکہ تم بھی اسی عذاب میں شریک ہو گے۔ () 42) پس جو عقیدہ آپ پر نازل ہوا ہے اس پر قائم رہو۔ کیونکہ تُو صحیح راہ میں ہے۔ () 43) اور یہ تمہارے اور تمہارے لوگوں کے لئے یادگار ہے اور اس کے بعد اس کے مشاہدہ کے بارے میں تمہیں جانچا جائے گا۔ Quran 57;16  Is it not time for those who believe to surrender their hearts to the remembrance of Allah, and to the truth that has come down, and not be like those who were given the Book previously, but time became prolonged for them, so their hearts hardened, and many of them are sinners? اسلامی [تھیوکریسی] شریعت تھیوری کے مخالفین کا صرف ایک مسئلہ ہے: عقیدت مند مسلمان سیاسی طور پر بے اختیار گروہ ہیں۔ عقیدت مندوں کے پاس کوئی اجتماعی طاقت نہیں ہے۔ مساجد اور کچھ دوسرے لوگوں کو چھوڑ کر کوئی بھی سچے مسلمان کی حیثیت سے اسلامی شریعت کے دفاع میں بات نہیں کرتا ہے۔ ایسے مسلمان ہیں جن کے پاس بڑی طاقت کے منصب ہیں ، لیکن اگر وہ اسلامی پاکستان کے آئین اور اسلامی قوانین کے تحت شرعی اقدار کے دفاع کے لئے اسے واضح طور پر استعمال کرتے تو وہ اس طاقت کو فورا. ہی کھو دیتے ہیں

Start by being atheist

@@DWAGON1818 Sains ke Bahane. करोड़ो Garib ko kamunijam ने marvaye garib

True that.

There Idiots in delusion.

Thanks 🙏🏽

@@ThePakistanExperience I love those 4 5 hours bakchodian sessions that you do. They're genuinely very therapeutic. Desperately waiting for the next one

@@ThePakistanExperience Best! Me to weekend ka soch k bethi hui the 😄

@@ThePakistanExperience haha, zaroor zaroor, kyun nahe 😍🤩

Yes. Because he is my teacher, my mentor :). I studied with Prof Steve Resnick at UMass-Amherst :)

@@shahramazhar4378 nice, we should do a project together, i always wanted to animate his ideas. How may i reach you?

@@ThePakistanExperience point hai boss.

@@ThePakistanExperience The quote is basically saying that extra wealth allows a nation to support cultural and intellectual development by financing certain people who don't have to worry about their income, but will focus on their intellectual activity or some other skill. In relation to India, it is saying that Indians should not have extra wealth and they should always be kept in a state where they are focused on basic needs, so they have no space for development beyond material needs. This will make them useful labouring slaves for the empire.

@@ThePakistanExperience I was actually supporting Shahram's statement. May be you misunderstood me. Shahram pointed out the importance of who makes decisions about surplus, and I'm also showing that the British understood the iportance of surplus on a national scale, and deprived India of those resources. In fact, the cultural and educational support given by the British was to implant a foreigh and superficial culture on Indians, and this produced a schizophrenic mentality.

@@ThePakistanExperience Sir aap idr kbi tashreef tou layee, sb milay ga

@@ThePakistanExperience Thank you but sikhaya kis ne ap ko ye podcasts karna ye nhi bataya 😂😂

@@ThePakistanExperience Okay Thanks let's watch Joe Rogan too 😁

@@ThePakistanExperience My gott, don't belittle yourself. Koshish karne waale ko kabhi haar nahi hoti. Kuch try karen. Wo to har channel par hi aa jaate hain khushbu laga ke zara pyaar se bulyen.

@@ThePakistanExperience Bilkul. Koshish hi kar sakta hai insaan. Baki Zizek ki marzi. Actually Zizek aur Chomsky ka lafda bhi chal raha tha. Agar yeh dono ek platform par aa jayen to ww3 in 21st century intellectual discourse ho jaaye. It would be like Batman Vs Superman: Dawn of Ideology.

I think that's not what he meant, his analysis(or rather I should say fear) is that western media manipulates in the garb of being independent and unbiased whereas they are privately owned propaganda machines and their HISTORY confirms their mischievous exaggeration of the facts to create political space for their state to exploit the parts of the third world. This has continuously happed and could happen.

@@abhigupta999 see, it's not like that there is only one kind of voice from West .. there are thousands of left leaning academics who express their views openly against their govts in the west. Now, that is absent in China's case. So, even if it's a capitalist propaganda .. they are not crushing other viewpoints in their society. I am willing to live under such western democracy who might be against my interest 'supposedly' then to live under an authoritarian govt who works for my interest 'supposedly'.

There are inexplicable human right violations in these dictatorship

Yes. But western propaganda is the most effective form of propaganda. They've made Zelensky a hero, just a year ago, he was corrupt. They've made 80% of Americans believe WMDs were in Iraq in 2003.

Where did he annoy Dr Taimur?

twitter.com/ShahramAzhar - follow him here