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In early 1937 France adopts not one, but two service pistols, both in 7.65 Long for ammunition compatibility with the upcoming SMG (MAS38). The most widely known is the 1935A mostly due to being the template for the SIG P.49, but the other pistol, the 1935S, is usually dismissed as being somehow inferior but is it really?
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23 авг 2024

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@itatane Год назад

Had to pause it for a moment there, Chap. You snuck a "war were declared" in on us, and it took me a second to wrap my brain around no vintage film sequence. Well played!

@thebotrchap Год назад

In my defence it's a different war to Othias' and Mae's 😇

@myparceltape1169 Год назад

Septembre.

@PapaSchultz74 Год назад

Was waiting for the same or a least a hint of it 😅

@alan-sk7ky Год назад

@@thebotrchap 'At the moment'

@zoiders Год назад

If you say the name of a French state arsenal aloud three times while looking in the mirror Ian McCollum appears like Candy Man.

@thebotrchap Год назад

It only happens if you do it while managing to mangle the pronunciation in his own unique style 😇

@jeroendesterke9739 3 месяца назад

JUST received (April 2024), "The French 135 Pistol" by Eugene Medlin and Colin Doane. I was very pleased to note that it had been autographed by Eugene Medlin - not even the vendor (Amazon) had noticed.

@cheesenoodles8316 Год назад

Additional comment, I have wanted one of these, a very nice S presented it self, this video helped me make a good assessment. This video was very timely and had all the details needed. Now I want the 9 version. PS: I shamelessly took all the credit for knowing so much about these two French pistols.

@nigelwright1610 Год назад

1935S. The Bob Ross pistol. Full of "happy little accidents!"

@Rileysworld727 Год назад

Its great to see you break down the 1935S and 1935A because there are very few videos on them and ive had a hard time understanding what makes them different. I love your videos, keep up the good work.

@thebotrchap Год назад

That's my mission for these two vids. Bust some myths good and proper.

@cheesenoodles8316 Год назад

Sheed some light on the world of French semiautomatic pistols, very good.

@Stephane-au-fil-de-la-vie1266 Год назад

J''admire la maîtrise de votre anglais technique félicitations et merci pour cette vidéo le mac 35 ayant été l'arme d'ordonnance de mon grand-père.

@thebotrchap Год назад

Merci, en fait c'est pour les vidéos en Français que je dois bouquiner pour trouver la terminologie appropriée 😅

@Zorglub1966 Год назад

@@thebotrchap En romanche juste pour voir?

@robertl6196 Год назад

Very cool. The 1935s I see over here in the US are typically much more raggedy GI bring backs. Yours look very well preserved.

@darrellh1840 Год назад

Very interesting video Chappy! Thanks!!!

@simonjones6128 Год назад

Loved it chappie

@cgdeery Год назад

Nice pistol collection..and cool Lizard pattern jacket.

@StrangelyBrownNo1 Год назад

Really informative as always mate! Learnt a bunch of new stuff.

@Ashcrash82 Год назад

I'll echo what some others have already said, but I really appreciate this video. Concise and to the point, yet digs deep enough to satisfy my gun nerd / engineering bent. These are pistols I know little about, but I do love my old Ruby pistol, so pointing out the similarities was cool to see. Sounds like you need to befriend someone with a job description similar to Jonathan Ferguson's, only of the French variety ;)

@hanktorrance6855 Год назад

I have both of these and love them

@Chiller01 Год назад

I was unaware of this pistol. Thanks for the excellent information.

@perunhromovladny4082 Год назад

Thank you Sir for your interesting and educational videos!

@CAPNMAC82 Год назад

Merci, Msr. F.

@B9oyd Год назад

Ian is gunna smell your mentioning of .32 french longue xD

@thebotrchap Год назад

I filmed inside a salt circle just to be safe.

@cedhome7945 Год назад

Ian has a huge stock pile of french stuff and by telling the rest of the world he is pushing the values up (only joking)

@Ashcrash82 Год назад

@@thebotrchap 🤣🤣

@keithplymale2374 Год назад

Great video Chap. Especially since you are a native French speaker so you have access to French writings on both these yet also are an excellent English speaker and can do things like this. I would wonder if the designers of the 1935S designers were reflecting Great War experience with pistols having issues with replacing the magazine after mud got into the well?

@pmgn8444 Год назад

Viva Le Chap al a Mle 1935S! My Mle 1935S M1 is probably a parts gun: MF 1945 G serial frame, MAT slide, slide & frame patina similar, and a painted slide stop. Very interesting on the load development. Mine did that very same thing with the vertical loaded chamber indicator. Didn't follow up do to concerns on getting the bullets properly crimped to the case. Looking forward to the Mle 1935A video. Is there Mle 1950 in works also?

@derekp2674 Год назад

Thanks Chap that was really interesting. If the 1935S was succeeded by the MAC Mle 1950, then it was probably a very good design in practice. I can see why the 1935A might be well regarded from the being the forerunner of the P49 / P210. So how about a comparison between the 1950 and the P49? Are they both fit for purpose, so there is nothing really to choose between them?

@carlcarlton764 Год назад

Very educational, I just learned WWD(war were declared) on May, 3rd 1939. Close but no baguette. 😅

@thebotrchap Год назад

Yeah dunno why I said May…

@carlcarlton764 Год назад

No worries, the algorithm is engaged and the users are entertained. Pretty long production run for something chambered in a round on the way out.

@chadkhl1690 Год назад

J'avais un portable Sagem plus jeune, jamais réalisé la lignée du manufacturier

@SlavicCelery Год назад

So, looking at that mag safety - can you just pull the spring actuating the mechanism or do you need to remove the whole lower arm? That is, if you want to remove the mag safety.

@thebotrchap Год назад

Removing the lower arm should be enough or even just the spring between the arms.

@SlavicCelery Год назад

@@thebotrchap Watching more of it, yeah the spring would probably be the least invasive disabling of the system. Not that I own one. But best to know about such things.

@BootedVulture Год назад

Could the need for light primers and hot loads in the rounds be the reason for it's coming second in trial? If it's finnicky about the ammo it takes I mean.

@thebotrchap Год назад

It may just be my gun. I’d need to run some original ammo to find out. Considering the tens of thousands made I doubt that was the issue.

@SlavicCelery Год назад

Also, to be fair most of the 9mm of the time would be consider "hot" today. I think a combination of expected reliability and expectations of SMGs encouraged hotter loads. Although, how much of that is caused by degradation of propellants, is anyone's guess.

@fattywithafirearm Год назад

I have a 1935s. What dies do you use and what bullets? I'd like to reload for my 35s. I have some ammo from steinel. I also bought 100 pieces of brass. Cant find dies to save my life. I heard about using 32acp dies.

@thebotrchap Год назад

Lee did a custom batch of 7.65L dies a while ago.

@pickeljarsforhillary102 Год назад

Bitchute has a vid showing how to turn .30 Supercarry to 7.65L

@thebotrchap Год назад

@@pickeljarsforhillary102 Thanks! Interesting if you can get some 30 Supercarry. I doubt any has made it across the pond.

@Foche_T._Schitt Год назад

My 1935a is a preoccupation Navy. Paid so little I practically stole it.

@thebotrchap Год назад

So is mine.

@Foche_T._Schitt Год назад

@@thebotrchap Mine's one of the 29 that went to Bizerte.

@1982rrose Год назад

Mint shirt👍

@1982rrose Год назад

Does that fashion style get odd looks in Switzerland?

@Sman7290 Год назад

So, you are saying that you do not, in fact, have any 7.65 French Long ammo?

@thebotrchap Год назад

I said I can’t buy it in shops. Subtle but important difference 😉

@hanktorrance6855 Год назад

Can you order from steinel? they produce 32 french long ammo.

@thebotrchap Год назад

No, hence my remark 😉

@hanktorrance6855 Год назад

@@thebotrchap sad indeed, but you are so good at improvising....i thoroughly enjoy all your presentations!

@richbutler7828 Год назад

My buddy brought a French Model 1935S M1 pistol back from Vietnam in 1969 Serial Number is MAC- C 2792 can you tell me what year it would have been made? any help would be App. Thank's

@thebotrchap Год назад

The best I can do is estimate. Probably 1950-53

@richbutler7828 Год назад

@@thebotrchap Sir, Thanks for the help it's more than i knew before

@johnkilcer Год назад

Thumbing safty and hammer as one movement maby?? It sticking pu would make that very easy to do coming out of the holster and cocking hammer i imagine

@thebotrchap Год назад

Upon reflection I'm guessing the change was to make the safety as close to the one on the 35A to simplify training since the 35A was already widely issued by the time the 35S really starts rolling off the production line. The trouble with both is that it is REALLY easy to flip it on when racking the slide so if you're in a rack'n'shoot situation there's a risk of finding the safety on when trying to fire.

@zoiders Год назад

I think someone in the French military wanted a tactile safety indicator. Or in normal speak - you can tell that its on by touch in the dark.

@thebotrchap Год назад

@@zoiders You can do that with the Walther style safety with less risk of applying it accidentally

@LittleRabbit1138 Год назад

Marvelous? Mediocre? Perhaps it's the mediocrity that makes it marvelous. Service Pistol Simplified

@onkelmicke9670 Год назад

I have to say though the A is the better looking of the bunch.

@thebotrchap Год назад

Purely aesthetically sure, physically however the primitive outline of the S grip is actually far more ergonomic than it looks, it's actually similar to a Vis35 with a deep beaver tail and a wide base. The fat grip panels also negate the sharp corners of the grip frame.

@onkelmicke9670 Год назад

Interesting.

@tomhenry897 Год назад

Being in Europe is it easier to source 7.65 ?

@thebotrchap Год назад

No. Handloads only

@paulbarthol8372 Год назад

Subcontractors = payola?

@thebotrchap Год назад

nah, the potential partners were public but they just couldn’t agree on terms

@christopherjefferson3561 Год назад

Has Ian seen the title of your video? All things French are fantastic…lmao

@KungFuHonky 7 месяцев назад

Worst safety of any gun. Many don't even work and are knocked back down if hammer is dropped. It would be better to not have it at all than to give false sense of safety which no one uses in first place.