Masonry Tricks of the Trade: Mortar. 

Yes, I'll second that

Looks more 90s to me

@@johnp82 I asked the question on another video. He said it was late 80s or early 90s, he's not really sure.

1990

I agree ! There by getting accurate proportions! CONSISTY

you are correct

drkjk I agree

The tiny bit retempering mortar is weaker is by far made up for by the increase tensile strength the bled water creates as it is 'sucked" into the dryer units by differing vapour pressure. Only ignorant Engineers think untempered mortar is superior then mud of the proper plasticity for quality workmanship. Further more the actual strength of mortar isn't the limiting factor of the wall strength as a whole.

I have been told not to resoften more than once.

Ive never heard that and Ive been around masonry work all my life. I Guess if you want to sit back and nitpick at all the work you can find anything wrong.

K

That's what I was taught aswell, so I'm glad the guy who showed me knew what he was really doing then!

Yep same here in Canada… 18 shovels is what I usually use per bag…. Always keep it covered n the bin… I keep my guys boards wet and they always have water if they feel the need to temper…

It gets wide open and I would just load board till the layer said good

that's exactly how we were taught been around masonry all my life. If you let it sit about 5 min before you dump it then it wont set up so fast.

There’s lime in the “mortar” bags.

yep let it blow up in the mixer .. productivity is higher doing this . layers and tender won't have to tamp at all should last a good hour

@@tnridge letting it sit is called slaking

because in 89 when this was filmed it was up to the home owner and he decided to skip it. By todays codes it would be required.

mateollios 67 Every brick mason I’ve ever been friends with was tough and could endure due to their years of determination and stamina. You’re right.

This is work you need to try. Good for you. Build character.

@@gomasonpatriot1 bigly, tough men only, never seen women able to do the work

Yes, mostly use it in cold weather or running concrete through a pump and slick line. Otherwise its the cost.

He mentioned lime. Lime works.

They make a bonding agent,you can use,if paint is not peeling or overly glossy,could etch it with muriatic acid.

Mapleton Utah.

drychalice neither, portland is not for bricks you need to buy brickcement which is 1 part limestone 1part cement and 6part sand

Portland is for concrete cement. In US brixment is the big masonry cement.

Josh Riddle atta boy josh

HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD A WEAK BACK?

Yeah my guys use it when is real hot in Texas but if you put too much when it comes down to wash the house with acid the house will have lots of holes to touch up. Can't put a lot is my point.

PlayGirl You get to mix it in a wheelbarrow all on your own.

PlayGirl Then you have to play girl😋

I haven't found one yet....

Where do you find a smart laborer?

Smart laborers come from smart teachers. Teach one.

By the time you take time to teach one,they want to lay bock or brick or leave.

16+ years iv been doing this but got out of it went to factory pays better and don't have to kill myself so much. I love doing the work it just don't pay what it should

That's up in the air.. the BIA, Did a Study saying re tempering mortar can diminish its strength. Note a dry mortar will not bond as well. The problem is real world.. if it dries out they will ret emper it.

Depending on what you're doing should designate how much you re-temper. If it's a brick veneer with no load bearing purposes then it should be okay. But if you're laying a structural block foundation you should keep in mind that re-tempering does weaken the mix

***** * Where do you work ? Fantasy Land.. The reality is building inspectors are lazy ! If Framers know they only check trusses on one end of the home thats the side they nail! I have seen larger production builders such as Centex, Pulse, Ryland, Ryan, have Trusses not nailed on one side of house. COMMON IS STEEL BEAMS NOT HAVING THE TREATED LUMBER PLATE BOLTED ON AS PER B.O.C.A. BUT BENT OVER NAILS. ROOFING CONTRACTORS NAILING EVERY OTHER COURSE OF SHINGLES! BRICK MASONS NOT USING TIES! NO HOUSE WRAP & BRICK STONE! OR WORSE YET OSB SHEATHING WITH WIRE MESH NO WRAP NO AIR GAP NO DRAINAGE BACKER, JUST CHICKEN WIRE & MORTAR THEN CULTURE STONE! THIS IS ON HOMES $250,000 TO $700,000 FACT! I have seen lally columns set in concrete on an angels! Windows not flashed ! Get FREAKING REAL!

ACCORDING TO THE { B.I.A. } =Brick Industry Association ~ Re Wetting AKA Re Tempering, Mortar is fine I will reference a Book for Architects, Engineers ~ on the subject of Masonry = Author -Christine Bell, Title : Masonry Design & Detailing, Under Retentivity & Flow of Mortar ~ Re-tempering or Wetting has NO EFFECTS ON STRENGTH ! In fact a mortar that is too dry will not bond properly.. The only issues sited are with color additives, since wetting may dilute the pigments appearance. 2& half hours mortar should be disposed of if not used.. that's it THE ASTM is in AGREEMENT ! FACTS ...

Well that must be something new then because all of the masonry text books I've read say to not temper more than twice. Including my new one that was published in 2013

Bret Lafty air entrained

80's!

2019

+telosfd Masonry silica sand

it was the 90s and up to the home owner back then. Also in Utah which is the second driest state in the country so the moister here isn't like most other places. But yes it should be used and is now. But amazingly this house is still fine without it almost 30 years later.

Tyvec

That's the first thing I noticed is why isnt that the osb papered... I don't care how dry of state and lack of moisture you should always paper the wood walls before veneering w brick... ALSO why was there a wheel barrow of mud on one board in the heat. shovel and half is all maybe two shovels full on board is plenty. Less to temper... The hoddy making the morter wouldn't make on my crew. Toooo slow.. PUT water barrels next to ur mixer. Use buckets of water ,exact ration and it will speed up the process. Forget to spray mixer down after he dumped the mud.. mixer is probably caked.

Ed Shaw no no

Ed Shaw, i heard of dry wall spacklers doing that to joint compound.

+cody modes makes it sticky and it's a binder.

Gives it a good taste.

For a time he did. He fell 20 feet while grouting a wall and shattered both his heals, so work boots where hard to where for a long period of time.

Wow badass!!

Nycholas Burns We had a friend who made them back in the late 80's. Haven't seen any in a few decades.

That is one of the coolest shirts i've seen in a long time!

Nycholas Burns Belden bricks out of Ohio used to use the big bad wolf and the 3 little piggies as their logo. Used to be on the cardboard that covers the bricks when they come from the suppliers.

hes just the mason not his problem and it is America and americans do it different🤷‍♂️

Guy does everything

Cement and mortar are different things.

@@learntolaybrick ah OK buddy. Is that lime based mortar? In UK we use sand and cement or sand and lime.

Son Col in canada we use all three together

It does make it weaker.

Charlie Galanti 🤣🤣🤣

😂😂 this video is damn near 40 years old.

If Scots got to see the Sun once in while, no one would have ever left come to America

wasn't required when this was filmed in 89.

Interesting. Every older building or house that i've had to tear into has some type of water proofing. Usually tar paper on older homes. Maybe its also the area you filmed this in doesn't see much rain.

Yes exactly we are in the second driest state in the country so usually when a house has water damage its because of a leak somewhere in the home. My sons home was built in 97 and we recently had to redo a good portion of it because it wasn't built properly and even with moisture barrier the wood was rotten.

+thanxx not quite but close.

+Learn To Lay Brick your his double....like a young Gordon Strachan :) ps/ great videos by the way. liked&subbed

you are correct. these where filmed in the 90s when house rap wasn't code and left up the home owner to decide. As you might have guessed they decided to skip it.

Who are you, osha secret agent? The kid is prob dead this was 32 years ago

If you use masonry cement,you just add sand.

Air Handler they still use lime. It makes the mud sticky and more workable.

indeed but amazing how many will avoid safety for convenience.

He should do it with the wind on his back

David Dore yeah mix has to be gauged or it will show on finished brickwork (patches) I use buckets to gauge my mixes you can't go wrong and also if you get a different labourer that's when it will really show, brickwork will look shitty and that reflect on us

Ok Bob Vila

well in this case the homeowner was the one who decided it wasn't necessary, back in the 80's in utah, when this was filmed, it wasn't required and left up to the homeowner. But today it would be required.

yea not a very good practice, but by the local standards in 89 it wasn't required.

@Mark Peacock it was 30 years ago and it was up to the home owner at the time, of coarse everything now has it, but I don't know a single home builder that will do things that aren't required on their own dime.

Lol. NO PAPER ON OSB? SOB

didn't exist in the 80's but would be required by todays codes.

yeah it is amazing the things people didn't and still don't make a priority to protect their health. And he was made to wear the glasses for the video, and flat out refused to where a respirator. Much like the diabetic who refuses to give up soda and cheese burgers. It isn't until we lack health that we actually value it most.