Destroy Ending from Mass Effect 3 The Extended Cut DLC. It's well known ending from ME3 (Destroy Ending) with few extra movies. Reapers destroyed, squadmates survived, Normandy saved. gamezilla.kompu... / gamezillapl
Pablo Cid If you choose the Destroy-ending you do leave the job unfinished. The underlying problem in the whole series is that synthetic and organic life cannot understand each other and so will fight a war in the future that either kills the other or both. Resolving this conflict is your job in the games. And as the Reapers were one solution to the problem (By preventing any life from advancing so far that they could initiate the final conflict.), so by destroying the Reapers you allow life to advance further and so be able to initiate the conflict in the future.
Pikkabuu 1) Peace between Geth and Quarians achieved. 2) No, your main mission is to destroy the Reapers, the "organic vs synthetic" thing is introduced at the very end of ME3 with star-kid, which is not a convincing argument.
Pablo Cid 1) That is something you need to work for and you can finish the game without doing it. Also brokering a peace now doesn't mean that they will remain in peace forever. 2) The theme has been part of the whole series. It is only at the end that it was actually brought up but what happened on the first and second games are still according to that principle. Star-Child acts as a description box for the problem so that everyone will get what the plot is about. So again. If you destroy the Reapers you only postpone your choice and in the future the galaxy has to tackle the same problem again, as you chose not to fix the problem in the first place.
***** The problem is that there isn't really a way for them to understand each other fully as they are so different fundamentally. And wihtout full understanding the rift and the risk of conflict between synthetic and organic life remains. As for destroying the Reapers allows a natural solution. Well isn't that what Shepard is doing at the end? He is making the choice alone and not by Reapers will? He is allowed to choose how to fix the problem, or not to fix, or not to choose.
Pikkabuu I chose destroy because it just made more sense to me. The Reapers have always ended cycles and I felt that needed to end. That was my goal sense Mass Effect 1 and I didn't want all the sacrifice to be in vain. I also doubt Synthetics and Organic will ever be at peace. I knew that there will be another conflict in the future because of the choice I made. But really I think that is what the universe is about. Things need to happen again.
There's just something about the way Shepard stops limping and speeds up when he approaches the conduit while shooting. No hesitation, just pure conviction. It feels right.
2:25 I feel we don’t give this marine enough credit. He didn’t cry, or beg for mercy. He took up his gun and was prepared to go down fighting. What a badass.
In Mass Effect 4 (Andromeda doesn't exist) it would be cool if he was given a cameo. Showing himself and the guy he fought with both relaxing and happily enjoying vacation or retirement. (for hardcore fans who bought and played through ME 1, 2 , 3 from legendary edition will be treated to a upscaled version of his moment as a flashback in honor of his heroic moment.)
@@bedinor Leviathan was quite definitively made after the ending controversy to provide more backstory leading up to the finale. Javik was ripped out of the base game to be sold as DLC, however.
@@ginge641 oh yeah this game went through development hell thanks to EA. It’s a shame of what a mass effect 3 with proper development time and management could of been
I have only stated playing recently and when I did this, I too cried like a bitch, but than I saw Tali not put the name up, i was confused and I finally saw Shepard take the breath and i threw my hands up and yelled "yes!"
Luciferdesrea Agreed, Mordin singing his song, Thane's prayer, Legion saying Keelah se'lai, and Anderson "I'm proud of you" :'( those were all done so well to make you truly care about the characters
Aldo Raine No. the leviathans FOUNDED the indoctrination technique. The reappears can’t use it on them. Shepherd got indoctrinated in his attempt to destroy
@@cjbladesworth8049 I don't know what you're saying but I agreed with your earlier post. You can't control the reapers. The only correct option is to destroy. Picking Green or Blue means that the player got indoctrinated.
While knowing that EDI and the geth (Legions legacy) didnt make it is the worst part of the destroy ending. Makes synthesis and control reaaaally tempting.
Here is another thought. If i was one of the soldiers in Earth, what im expecting to see? 1. All reapers falling down 2. Reapers retreating. Shove your synthesis ending up your ass.
No. With uncontrolled organic life it will never be safe. For instance, look what humans are doing to the planet, other animals. They keep causing destruction.
The Krogan are cured - which means they will reproduce explosively and begin to expand. Even with Eve and Wrex, they won't be able to keep a lid on things forever. They're both old by Krogan standards, and Grunt isn't exactly a peacful guy. And the next in line to lead the Krogan (Wrex's brother) is a war hawk. The Geth and EDI get fucked by this ending - all current synthetic life is cucked And eventually, just like the billions of times before, organic life will create a new synthetic life, a new AI - and it will go wrong, and without Shepard to be there to broker peace, it will go exactly the way the Geth would've gone, or worse. And synthetic life will wipe out organic life - like it always does. A reaper by any other name is still the fucking robots killing us all. Destroy is the worst ending. The only thing this ending does is take the safety off the gun that the universe will use to blow its brains out.
Funny that the three choices ending represent the three major characters. Control represents The Illusive Man and his desire to control the Reapers and use them for humanity's further evolution, only for him to become a puppet to the Reapers. This ends up bad on one side because if your Shepard was a Renegade you become a tyrant who brings on forced peace onto a galaxy. Synthesis represents Saren, who wanted to bond with the Reapers believing that it's the only way to save the galaxy and spare them. Only once again to be use as a puppet by the Reapers. This is so-so because you gave the Catalyst what it wanted and didn't truly defeat the Reapers. And this ending, the Destroy ending represents Captain Anderson, who was a solider to the very end, the man who stood by you til the very end while people like Udina and Cerebrus betrayed you and the galaxy for their own gain, and desire to save the galaxy by getting the job done. He was never corrupted and died as himself as a true hero. This is considered to be closest ending to get to a true ending, as it's hinted that Shepard survived and the Mass Relays and Citadel are being rebuilt forging a way to a new game.
I understand everyone was pissed off at the original ending. But the truth of every hero's story is sacrifice. And here, Shepard isn't just sacrificing himself, he is sacrificing the future he could have had with anyone. But that is what life is. Everything has an ending and every hero has to die, including you - the player. This game kind of ends with a question, how are you going to live your life now that you know even the hero of the story has to die?
I'm 100% behind this decision. The objective was to eliminate the reaper threat at any cost. Who are the reapers to judge all races and exterminate them because of some computer scenario logic. There is something called technological singularity.
I like this ending the most as well, because its what the mission was set to do, and its what people lost their lives for. Controlling the reapers would just grant the races more supreme war machines. Synthesis kills diversity. As the representative of the resistance, it is your duty and honor to represent faithfully - not make a decision against the wishes of everyone.
xutianyangkevin Destroy ending puts the galaxy in chaos and uncertanity. People will create synthetics again and shit will start all over again. And synthesis doesn't kill diversity, the living things become cyborgs, but Asari are still Asari, Humans are still Humans. You can clearly see pair of krogans having a baby. They're just improved.
Sorry for budding in but I just wanted a bit of clarity on these endings. The title says "extended cut DLC" does that mean this was the downloadable content that the prompt at the end of the original endings were referring to? If yes, is the only downloadable content an extended cut scene?
This is the only ending I will accept, for one reason and one reason only: The Reapers deserve to die. They don't get to walk away from what they've done.
Blarghalt They were created to preserve life, they couldn't figure out any other way of doing it and they couldn't decide not to do it. The leviathans are to blame for not defining "life" and programming morals.
+Blarghalt well I've chosen red one because Shepard may live. If not, his body is still there, so mb project Lasarus 2.0? Who knows. Also I dont want to leave Tali alone on Rannoch.
God damn it I don't care what people say, I really liked the ending. The music is absolutely beautiful The shot of liara at 0:24 kills me... Joker's stubbornness in not wanting to leave the commander.... The final shot of Normandy flying away one last time...and the shot of Shepard being alive somewhere.. inevitably going to be reunited with his crew It fills me with...hope And now i need a hug :'(
That shot of Liara is beauriful. Probably one of the best ones in the game. The way they captured her - and the emotion she seems to have when looking at the camera - feels pretty realistic.
he was walking towards the explosion because shephard obviously knew there was no way he was surviving this one ... although he did if your ems was high enough
@@9manny99 Maybe geth put two two together and Realize "wait this is a weapon to kill the reapers, reapers are AI....maybe we should stay in dark space for a bit of time."
I am a lil disappointed that there's no way to both destroy the Reapers and spare the Geth/EDI. Like... I understand the Synthesize and Control endings, but the whole trilogy was about stopping the Reapers, and while they're technically "stopped" in all 3 endings, the destroy is the most satisfying as a player. Just makes me feel like I used the Geth and didn't actually care about them, which is fine for a Renegade, but I'm Paragon for life, yo *Vegeta screams in background*
+James Sinn Nah, you're Neutral. My mixed alignment Shepard was also very hesitant, probably because of suffering PTSD after Akuze, so she ended up doing pretty much everything a Renegade would: destroying the Rachni Queen, killing the Council, all because she only trusted Humans, though as selfless as a Paragon. My Paragon, however, sacrificed herself to save everyone else... even reapers.
+James Sinn Well boohoo that the Destroy is not a clear happy ending where only bad guys die and everyone gets icecream and a puppy. If you want a happy ending you should have picked Synthesis. Also how is the Destroy the most satisfying ending? It is the worst ending by far as it dooms galaxy to witness the same extinctions which plagued the Leviathans times. Also the ending didn't do anything but make me feel like I had awakened a greater beast and that I had not finished the job.
+James Sinn reapers can claim that they're the only true synthetics. they've shunned and bashed the geth that worked for them before. so for all i know that catalyst was only saying that to manipulate Shepard away from destroying them.
+SpyFreak AR-15 (Sterling Houston) Nah if you spare the Geth on Rannoch, but choose the Destroy ending then they don't appear in the ending slides, while if you spare the Geth but choose control, you see the Geth in the ending slide. Plus EDI doesn't appear in the Destroy ending, but her name is on the Memorial Wall. EDI and the Geth are killed in the Destroy Ending.
Tim Mitton it's still a better ending than control or synthesis. shepard gives into indoctrination and dies in those endings, especially since control and synthesis were attempted by saren and the illusive man.
While i feel bad for EDI and the Geth, especially because Legions sacrifice was for nothing, to me it is always the Destroy Ending, thats Canon and judging by Mass Effect "Next" so is for BioWare.
also i wouldnt say Legions sacrifice is for nothing. Shepard proved to Quarians Geth can change for the better. this will encourage rebuild and not repeating old mistakes. the galaxy as a whole will view them in a better light now too because Shepard got them to stand with all organic beings against Reapers. also if i remember correctly the Geth needed Quarians help to stabilize Rannoch for them to live without suits again, so Quarians definetly need Geth back for that.
@@dirtydan9153 It was absolutely for nothing. If you destroy the geth over rannoc, the Quarians still rebuild their home. Legion died for nothing. Oh, and you also murdered EDI in this ending.
@@yoku651 well thats certainly better than wiping out Quarians. Quarians have a thing called men, women and children, Geth dont. if you choose Geth over Quarians, you drove Quarians to extinction. Quarians cant be rebuilt, Geth can. let that sink in for a bit. Legion literally tells you in ME 2 that he joined you to destroy the Reapers and Geth follow Shepard for that reason. EDI and the entire galaxy joined you to do exactly that. millions of others from different races fought and died beside you to DESTROY Reapers. do you see the difference there? by destroying Reapers, you have accomplished what EVERY SINGLE RACE wanted. by choosing control/synthesis, you made everyone that died, die for nothing because you chose to listen to your own feelings over the entire galaxy.
This is what Legion would've wanted. Synthesis would bend the will of the geth. Legion's resistance towards the reapers is because of this. He would rather have many if not all of his people destroyed if there's no chance at all for them to live according to their own will. As for EDI, she of all people, would've been the one who understands the most. Their sacrifice is not for nothing, their sacrifice gave the world a second chance.
I'm a man and I'm not gonna lie. I was crying throughout the entire ending when I beat the game (I chose the synthesis ending). I completely lost it when Liara (in my case) placed his name on the wall above Anderson's. God knows how many tissues I just used... This game was a great series. The atmosphere was so beautiful and different, the social interactions and relationships seemed special compared to any other game, and the story-driven campaign was entirely different and unique. There is a lot more to the game that I can say but I think the three Mass Effect games were (are) one of the best game series of all time, and I'm an Elder Scrolls guy and Halo guy. The ending was extremely sad but was an excellent way to tie up the series, although I did wish I could live happily ever after alone with Liara somewhere far away from anyone or anything else. I can say that the Mass Effect series is the best RPG series I've ever played. R.I.P Commander Shepard. You've done more than anyone else has the will to do and can achieve. You've earned your rest... You will forever be apart of the Normady and its crew.
Loved the comment Guitarfollower22. The ending to this is incredibly sad. I get goosebumps watching it even now, 2 years after I beat this game. The Synthesis ending is specially sad when Shepard makes that jump and you see his skin start to deteriorate. It brought tears to my eyes. I love Mass Effect Trilogy.
How could one choose synthesis? Raping every being in existence. Killing all life as we know it. Keeping the Reapers around... Might be only a game but tell you how people think. I value life and one person bodily autonomy. And i understand no sacrifice is big enough to save all life as we know it. And no way i keep the genocide machines around.
Shepard did not die as you can see. If the person you have romantic intrest in smiles and does not put your name you lived. Also at the end it shows the N7 tags and he takes a breath.
I felt the Destroy ending was the only logical ending. Controlling the Reapers made me feel dirty, and Synthesis was essentially something forced on everyone. As the Star Child said, Synthesis is not something that can be forced. It has to come of their own volition. Having Shepard initiate Synthesis as he did was forcing an issue that shouldn't have happened. Control makes me think of what the Illusive man wanted to do. Dominion over another race, and that is not acceptable. Which leads to destruction. Yes all AI are destroyed, but you know what? I'm willing to bet there are back ups of back ups on the Geth and EDI. And it's not terribly hard to reboot or repair tech. That said Destroy is logically the most ideal conclusion.
The weight of risk and reward was what Bioware wanted the players to measure. And the reasons for NOT choosing the other endings makes the ending you choose have more meaning to it. Just like choosing not go Renegade in the series makes you feel so much better when you go Paragon.
All you said is true, believe me, i ve put tons of thoughts about the ending of Mass Effect, Destroy is the only way to go, preferably with a high ems and galactic readiness more than %50. High EMS destroy ending with Geth Quarian peace and Genophage cured is the true moral ending to that game, İ am 100 percent sure of this. People entitled to their own opinions but in truth the one who did not cured the genophage and who did not solve the Geth Quarian conflict and who chose Control, Synth or Refusal endings has LİTERALLY NO CLUE WHAT MASS EFFECT WAS ALL ABOUT. UNİTY THROUGH DİVERSİTY... Just think about it...
Lucifecdesrea, thanks, i even go further and claim that Mass Effect Trilogy was intended to be more than a game really. İt was made in such a way, you felt you're being educated, in a non biased way, on an objective perspective. Outer level of perception of it seems to be neutral, and this has achieved in such a flawless way, but as you think through it, as you get deeper in it, you kind a feel, there is something else writers wants us to see... Like a true classic novel, or a movie, it educates, it elevates people who are open minded, and able to overcome their dogmas. MASS EFFECT Trilogy is more than just a game series. İ ve played truck loads of games in over 20 years, never seen such a beauty, such an expression of what it means being human, such a masterpiece of an art form. İ really kinda believe Mass Effect may very well be some kind of a social experiment. Given that MAss Effect 3 needs players to be online at least for once entering the game, Bioware can easily analyze people's end choices. İ started suspecting that, because the game is so intense, felt so real, and just questioning every dilemma, every problem human race has faced throughout its very existence. And no offense to anyone but i really felt scared when i realized hom many people chose the way to some form of fascism ( in the form of control or synth, no matter what they are the same at the very heart, in an ideological stand point. ) represented us with control or synt. Those two are the decoys, ruses, tricks, to make the player believe a totalitarian fake UTOPİA is the way to go... Especially Synth, is monstrous, such a horrible way to go. Any decent human being should be able to see the horrors of choosing control or synt, or the stupidness of refusal ending. This little software version of whats going on on the earth for years may be very well be the indicator of what is to come. İn a metophoric way, those things happen in every country around the globe, and eventually it will come to this in some way. We will be asked, we will be indoctrinated by the time they ask, by the time they offer us ( the nations of the world ) a so called utopia in a false sense of infinite peace, happiness and freedom. And if we the people could not see the ruse, if we give our instutional rights away for the sake of a world goverment ( it will come to this eventually ) if we fall to the UTOPİA lie, it will be nothing less than choosin SYNTHESİZE in the end... İ think Mass Effect literally warns us in a covert way, metophorically or analyzing the youth around the world who plays it. Just my thoughts... Peace. :)
I know I’m late with this comment. Even before the extended cut DLC I was satisfied with the destroy ending. I was satisfied because I felt like I did my job. I defeated the reapers. Plus we saw shepherd breathing in the end which means that he’s alive. The player can imagine his future.
4:14 - 4:50 Gave me chills. such an awesome scene of Joker and the Normandy crew doing what they do best. not knowing what the shockwave does, they desperately try to outrun it and save as many people as they can.
I'm back because this 100% seems like the ending that is cannon. I also never noticed how your romance does not put your name up, implying they are going to look for Shepard, plus the breath of life.
@@KikomochiMendoza well the starchild hints that all technical life will be destroyed....but you can rebuild...so not all is lost...destroy is still the only worthy ending to end a cycle of suffering...
There is something that has always highly bothered me in this ending. Why can't I act in a badass way? Shepard should have been able to throw back the famous Sovereign line at the "Intelligence" as a gesture of defiance: "Your words are as empty as your future. I am the vanguard of your destruction. This exchange is over!"
You can tell the catalyst kid that you don’t need his help, but this allows the reapers to crush you easily because he then gives the same choice to reapers which they chose to reset civilization.
Honestly I think they chose the Destroy ending as Canon only because It was easier Building a universe post control/Synthesis would have been too difficult for BioWare
@@music79075 Yeah, in the new trailer for the next game they show dead reapers around the galaxy, the mass relays are destroyed and an older Liara is actively looking for Shepard on a strange planet, along with a Salarian, a Krogan and what looks like a Turian, and NONE of them have synthesis agumentations (the green glow from recombined DNA) of any kind and definitely were not exterminated. EXCITED :D
@@gabrielvasconcellos6427 me too!!! I always knew destruction ending was the best. I chose it to finally stop the cycle, and plus the secret ending pretty much confirmed it back then
@@gabrielvasconcellos6427 You say older Liara but why would she be looking for Shepard if she's old enough to be showing additional age? She was only like 100 something and they live to be around 1000+. She was still in the Maiden stage of Asari life. Unless Shepard miraculously became immoral, she ain't looking for much more than bones.
*Destroy Ending* The reapers are wiped out for good, and the threat is gone forever. Your mission is accomlished, and if your diplomatic skills were good enough, it paid off in the end, as Shepard survives with high EMS. Con: All synthetic lifeforms are also gone, which means that the geth and EDI are no more. But as Hacket put it: we can rebuild everything that was destroyed, it will take time. Ultimately though, this was the best ending of all 4 possibilities, and you pretty much do what Anderson wanted: Getting rid of the Reapers. *Control Ending* You are now the new essence of the catalyst, and you have replaced Harbinger as the leader of the Reapers. While Shepard may have control over the reapers now and can call them off, who knows when Shepard will give into all the tempting, yet dirty, possibilities of being a reaper god? You basically start the cycle all over again. By doing this, you pretty much fulfill the visions of the illusive man: control over the reapers. *Synthesis Ending* By merging organic and synthetic life, you have done exactly what Saren always wanted: mixing all organics with synthetics. The reapers are not defeated, and as every organic becomes partly synthetic, you are basically becoming slaves of the reapers. And isn't it a bit extreme for ONE MAN to decide that all organic life must be merged with synthetic? This is pretty much taking all free will from organic life. *Refusal Ending* This is even worse than control and synthesis. You are basically just saying "damn, forget it, I don't want this, I can't. Sorry. You are giving up everything you fought so hard for, sacrificed so much to for, and went through hell and back several times. Even the catalyst seems terribly disappointed by the decision, as he shuts down the catalyst and just lets Shepard watch the entire foces of the galaxy die for nothing because shepard just chose to quit at the last minute. From best to worst: Destroy > Control > Synthesis > Refusal I only consider Destroy ending to be a good/paragon ending, while Synthesis and Control seems highly renegade, while Refusal just seems pathetic and weak.
gmk kmg It takes away free will because it's basically saying that we all have to be the same in order to have peace, everyone is just a part of a match set, and less significant.
ROFLNUT There should've been a final boss fight or something for the refusal ending with a high enough ems, I think that the fact that it always leads to the reapers wiping everything out is pretty much Bioware's way of saying "fuck you" to people who complain that we should've had more than the 3 options; control, destroy, and synthesis. The refusal ending is a big fuck you, but other than that, I am satisfied with how the Extended Cut DLC improved the endings.
I believe in the indoctrination theory so I agree with you, with this option Shepard wakes in the rubble that the Reaper laser beam made, his skin charred due to heat or maybe his indoctrination is half done and his body chaned, yet his mind is still Shepard, he has won against the indoctrination yet the war is still lost. My main reasoning for that is because of the aliens talking in the control option say that the 'details are lost in time' which means Shepard either 'forgot', something happened to him, or it was all a dream, that Shepard had lost the battle against indoctrination at the end.
So by your logic the civilization we will build in the new game is screwed because sooner or later they will build synthetics that will destroy them? Andromeda is not affected by your "solution" synthesis or control...
The sacrifice was worth it. The Geth and EDI are, despite their inherent worth, AIs. They can be rebuilt. EDI's robot model even has a memory drive. They'll be dead, but not for long. And the reapers had to go. That was the mission from the beginning. After the damage they've done, they get no quarter.
@Rosario Manorang Manik EDI was only made a "person" through unshackling her AI. Rebuild the code, reuse the memory drive, and there's no reason she wouldn't live again. Same with the geth. Legion's sacrifice provided the geth autonomy, but they still existed within a shared framework. Assuming you got the quarians and geth to work together, and considering the geth were able to help the quarians exist in maskless society within 2 or so decades, if the quarians revuilt the geth there's no reason why the geth couldn't live again?
When people argue that destroy is bad because the cycle will repeat itself and synthetics will kill organics all over again. What people aren't realising is that everyone who survived will remember this and be careful and make sure this won't happen again. People learn from their mistakes.
Solaxe S People DO learn from their mistakes! Hiroshima events taught us of what Nuclear Weapons can do and prevented USA and the soviets to just go trowing bombs and destroying the world in the cold war.
Solaxe S The 'mistakes' were essentially done by the SAME 'faction'. Countries will always have little cry-baby-arguments with each other but overall Germany is the one that was the most evident in the wars. Who the fuck cares about Prussia and the such anymore. So what, an assassination happened. It's not new. A single country pushing for war TWICE and committing genocide at least ONCE is terrible. Even then, genocide, as we call it, isn't a new thing either. It's ignorant to assume that a lesson like this wouldn't be learned from.
I just hope that when the fleets were going to the rendezvous point that the surviving Geth also did the same, cause if the ships were still working as they relied on FTL travel to pick up the people at Earth and send them to their respective planets, and fix relays and such along the way, then it means that this energy wave didn't mess up their ships, so I would assume that with enough distance away from a relay then the Geth wouldn't be affected...I hope that's what happened....but that's not enough to save EDI, it seems the Normandy got his by that blast and EDI died onboard.
As someone who got perfect unity throughout everyone, I can only ever pick Synthesis or Control. But DAMN it's cathartic seeing all those Reapers die after all the shit they forced on trillions of sentient beings. Countless extinctions brought to an end
Jack Blackwood Well that I understand. Still, you would think things would be a little less tense after they partially redeemed themselves from the EC.
The EC is leagues better than the orginal ending. Had the EC been the ending to the game originally, I think alot of us, while disappointed at the ending, would've been fine. The fact that the original ending came out and then tried this was very respectable. However, this ending is not the ending the Mass Effect trilogy deserved. The ending did not match the quality the rest of the series, EC or original. I was hoping that the Indoctrination Theory was true cause that would've been a hell of a twist
Simple. The Extended Cut fills in some of the bigger plot holes present in the original ending, but it ignores the biggest problem of them all. The whole premise of the ending is flawed. Throughout the entire series, we are never given any reason to believe that there is some sort of innate, unavoidable conflict between organics and synthetics that will inevitably lead to the genocide of all organic life. In fact, everything we've experienced goes against that. The Geth did not rebel against the Quarians. The Quarians tried to destroy them, and in turn the Geth defended themselves and drove them into exile when they could have driven them into extinction. Then, in Mass Effect 2, the Geth ally themselves with Shepard in order to stop the Reapers, who want to destroy all organic life. Finally, in Mass Effect 3, the Geth agree to peace with the Quarians, who had just been trying to kill them, without any fuss. So much for the Catalyst's murderous, genocidal synthetics. And let's not forget EDI. Point is, Bioware ignored everything they'd established up until the Starchild appeared to make up some BS motivation for the Reapers, a motive that makes absolutely no sense and goes against everything we'd seen during the series. .
The eyes look cool on some species (definitely not humans though, ruined joker's beautiful eyes) but that glowing circuit skin is just ugly and freaky.
I love how everyone complains and says destroy is a renegade option, did you guys not play the arrival dlc for me 2? Shep sacrificed 300k batarians to destroy the relay to slow the reapers down so they could have a chance at beating them. So guess what sacrificing machines to give all life, the freedom of a future and to give hope, without the scumbag reapers existing cause we all know they dont. it's really not a big deal, this ending is the best one and the other 2 suck.
There is a lot of moral ambiguity in these games. There are not many options that are necessarily right or wrong, entirely good or bad per se. I played through the trilogy twice, once as paragon and once as renegade and Shephard comes across well either way. I chose this ending as a renegade because it just suited that Shephard. It's definitely what renegade Shephard would have done. Pick most or all of the renegade and intimidate options you get a very endearing anti-hero.
Synthesis gives them that same freedom, doofus. With the Destroy ending - EDI and Geth die - Krogan expand and go back to doing the shit that got them the genophage in the first place (synthesis gives them understanding of other species and peace) - Galaxy lives in war and Mordin's sacrifice was for nothing - eventually, AI will kill all the organics (like has happened every single time before the reapers started doing their thing) which wouldnt happen if you pick synthesis - Quarians are basically doomed - without the Mass Relays and galactic infrastructure, they have to rely on nature and whatever planets they crash on. Quarians cannot survive planetside (Synthesis makes all organic life immune to disease, so Quarians can return to home planet immediately) The only downside to Synthesis is that everyone gets green glowy eyes - which is only bad if you have a problem with green eyes. Destroy is the worst ending
@@Grim67894 Indoctrination for what? The Reapers want to kill everyone, and Indoctrination helps them get closer to that. But it's clearly shown in both synthesis and control endings that they stop killing people. Not only is there no proof of indoctrination to support your bogus theory - they don't do anything to abuse it if there was. Headass.
I must've heard "An End, Once and for All" countless times by now. I learned it on piano years ago (it's fairly easy), I know every note by heart, can play the damn thing in my sleep. It's still one of the most beautiful soundtracks I've ever heard, and makes my heart hurt just like it did the first time I played ME3.
For all of those who thinks shepard died in the destroy ending. He didnt. If you have enough EMS and Anderson Survives. Shepard lives. The very last thing you see at the end is Shepard laying in the remains of the explosion and he takes a breath. Then the screen cuts to black
The Mass Effect trilogy is amazing. The characters are amazing, the emotional impact huge, the shooting action is fun and while 2 and 3 were striped of most of the RPG elements, they are still exceptional games. I don't care what people say about the endings or about turning them into a shooter or whatever, ME is a great and in depth Sci - Fi experience.
Personally, I like to think the Catalyst was lying when it said all synthetic life would die with the Reapers. It said that Shepard would be killed due to their cybernetics, but that turns out to be false. Besides, the Catalyst was what controlled the Reapers in the first place. Remember Saren? The Illusive Man? The Project? All of them did what they did because the Reapers indoctrinated them, their motives stemming from the Reapers misleading them. If the Reapers could lie to their indoctrinated minions, why wouldn’t they lie to Shepard?
I tried all three but I felt that this one was the most appropriate. Yes, you lose a lot in the process (the relays, the Geth, and other technology), but you finally wipe out the reapers. The reapers destroyed so much life for thousands and thousands of years. This was payback for what they did.
Considering that repurposing the Geth heretics backfired from ME2, who's to say that controlling / repurposing the Reapers wouldn't backfire in a few hundred years from now?
Yes, the endings have the same colors and whatnot. But narratively, they tell very different outcomes for the Milky Way I think if they make another Mass Effect, it's gonna follow the Destroy ending tho
Actually the Stargazer is voiced by someone completely different, TIM is voiced by Martin Shean which is amazing, but the Male Stargazer is voiced by one of the first men to walk on the moon, Buzz Aldrin, not the same....and if you choose not to end the cycle...it's a female Stargazer and a child...
“Can I hear one more story about Shepherd” I have a sneaky suspicion that the old man is indeed Commander Shepherd. In ME 1 in the first couple of missions when you talk to Liara. I remember shepherd saying humans can live up 150yrs if they are lucky. I wouldn’t put it past them if after finding John’s whereabouts to use some of Technology that Cerberus used in the Lazarus project to repair and improve John’s life span if it wasn’t already from ME2
Maybe I didn't invest myself heavily enough into the plot, but when I saw the destroy the reapers option I didn't even think twice. We all smashed those bums for three games so how could you not deal the final blow? The fact that Shepard was the first organic to get that far shows that there may be other solutions to the galaxy's problems. I didn't waste my time playing the games, killing reapers just to try and control them or bond with them. Lol. Can't wait for Andromeda to come out. I just hope they don't use our save games because mine got lost with my last computer. Cheers!
+bbq1040 Because some think beyond the next few minutes. Destroying the Reapers would only put the world back to the road which forced the Leviathans to create Reapers in the first place. So choosing Destroy you don't fix the world but wreck it forcing the same problem to be solved in the future too.
+bbq1040 I wouldn't worry about it. Bioware made Dragon Age Keep because it's very hard to transport saves across consoles so they will make like Mass Effect Archieve or something for ME players.
How can it be the best ending when all the synthetics are destroyed? Yeah, the organics would rebuilt them, but if the Catalyst was right, the synthetics would destroy organics and the cycle would continue. Personally I think the synthesis one is the best.
Selçuk Lale Nobody can set the synthetic life to be friendly. Once their intelligence is near as good as their creators´, they will go rogue against them
MOo8996cz I mean if they don't rebuilt them smart like their creators. This is where they did the mistake. (Im thinking about a red button. That destroys every syntethic life lol)
Selçuk Lale But people tend to forget. Maybe it would take a few hundreds of years but there would always be at least one person that would have the desire to create a better, smarter AI. Then some people would pay for his creation and let other people know abou how great and, of course PROFITABLE idea it is. Just a chain reaction
Control - The Illusive man (indoctrinated) Synthesis - Saren (Also indoctrinated) Destroy - The only true ending, and the only ending Shepard survives. In fact in control and synthesis involves jumping off a platform to your death, and the other involves electrocuting yourself. Destroy involves firing your gun (AKA, not commiting suicide). Hell, the entirety of Mass Effect 3 is about how TIM is indoctrinated, which is why he belives he can control the reapers. We defeated him in just the previous scene. Javik even said they would have succeeded, but a faction in their empire wanted to control the reapers which disrupted their plans. Yet, the game gives us a 180 at the end, and offers us the exact same choice of doing what TIM wanted, why did we even bother fighting him the whole game? Control and Synthesis are both indoctrination, by choosing them Sheapard literally commits suicide, and the Reapers win.
This is the best ending for the franchise and ME 4. There are a lot of great story lines that come from this ending that could be explored in the next game, along with other choices 1. The next Krogan or Rachni War 2. Restoring the Geth 3. Rebuilding the relays 4. Omega as possibly a new superpower (possibly because the black hole omega relay isn't part of the network) 5. The Yahg being uplifted by the salarians next. 6. Plus any number of threats that could come from other galaxies.
My thoughts are plain and simple....Bioware, If it aint broke, don't fix it! We your loyal fans have spent 7 years falling in love with Shepard, and the crew of the Normandy. What do you do? You kill Shepard, and crash the ship, THEN you tell us that The next volume will have nothing to do with this storyline. How dare you! What a kick in the face. When does part 4 come out? I will be the first in line to buy it.
***** you're a champ :) Yeah, I can not be angry at Bioware. They made this beautiful game. Yeah, I'm sure I will fall in love with part 4. I just hope it's post war story. I have no interest in a prequel. Cross your fingers!
Well at least he lived in this ending and in most of the extended cut endings the ship is proven to be all right if you have the proper readiness before doing the final mission.
SaltyTestes They said it can take place before or after Shepard's story. So it could be after the Reapers are defeated or while they are still out there. They did say ME4 however would have nothing to do with Shepard at all.
I love how they show Legion as one of the people that sacrificed so much. Only for you to genocide his newly freed people also killing your friend Edi who if your not a dick became a true feeling A.I.
You cannot control what's pulling YOUR strings. And when you merge organics with reaper tech, you get zombies. Husks. You don't get space magic, it's just control with a different tint of light. The only way to win against the Reapers, is to destroy them.
