Taureor Regarding the statues; Low-level psychic perception filter. Doctor Who has used this plot device several times in the New series, as a worn technology. Perhaps the statues have a similar device worked into their design.
Before the Asari encountered other sentient species, how did they reproduce? Can they morph into males? How inbred were the Asari on their initial introduction to the galactic community?
Since you can commit vertical exercises with a turian and a bug man in game... I think it is probably a pheromone thing combined with a generally universally asteticly pleasing look.
asari are considered attractive by different races as each sees traits/qualities that the race consider attractive, turians like head-fringes, salarians like long limbs and humans likes boobs
ValhallaViking Well before I was thinking a conventional invasion and your run of the mill genocide would suffice. Didn't quite think it called for cyclonic torpedoes or virus bombs. I changed my mind.
Snowy Owl lol, 20 years we will be find a mass relay and will find a bunch of aliens, society will collapse, and we will all die, cause thats what happens, humans are by nature, xenophobics
You're forgetting about an important detail, the Ardat Yakshi. The Asari are parasites, as when two Asari mate they run the chance of creating an Ardat Yakshi which is an Asari that "feeds" off of others. The Ardat Yakshi seem like a bit of a random evolutionary throwback, but because of the danger they pose this has led to a culture where mating among the Asari is frowned upon. No, they depend on the existence of the other races in order to avoid the creation of such creatures, so the slow elimination of other species in the galaxy would be counter to their own longevity (remember, Ardat Yakshi are not only proficient killers, but are also sterile). I think the Asari are descendant from predatory parasites, but that they have evolved beyond that and now use their abilities to ensure the safe continuation of their species. Damn, I miss this game.
what happens when two ardat yakshi mate or when they encounter a species that can handle mating with and ardat yakshi that destiny of the asari morinth was talking about could become a possibility which would be expedited by the lack of other species
Ardat Yakshi are a problem, but not such a big one, at least at the moment. If I remember correctly, only 3 exist at the time of ME2 and there is way more Asari-Asari reproduction thatn that - they are a rare mutation.
It does seem that Asari do inherit personality traits from the father. For example, Liara's father has a Krogan who was her father. Which she says is where she got her attitude and cussing. So imagine what Shepard's Asari daughter would be like. Imagine an Asari that has Shepard's determination, focus, and take no shit from anyone attitude. That would be one badass Asari.
Whether or not they were made because we nerds have weird fetishes about sexy aliens is irrelevant. This is talking about their role in the universe that they exist in, and what their species is really about, not why they were put into that universe by the game devs or whether it was just a good or really, a great addition to the hot alien fantasy/fetish.
On the wiki Asari are literally described as having human skeletons, and other races such as Salarians find their pigment and skin attractive, and Turians the fixed head tentacle fringe. The only other thing is that Mordin Solus suggests the attraction by other species may be neurochemical in nature.
This video was well structured and you didn't make blind assumptions but provided evidence and well reasoned speculation. Was sad when I saw this is the only video in the "Lore and theory videos" playlist. Would definitely watch more of these kinds of videos from you. :)
I've always seen the Asari as a sirens who chose to not take advantage of their unique physiology to dominate the other species. Like how humans can choose not to try to be the dominate species like Cerberus does and instead do what the Alliance does and try to become a helpful ally in the Council. (Like the Federation in Star Trek.) But the point about their thousand year life span, their attractiveness and their ability to mate with other species can't help but make me think of them as a non-aggressive version of the aliens from the Movie Species from 1995 in a way.
Rainbowhawk1993 YES! i agree perfectly! minus the exoskelital armour, lacerative tenticles and the bone blades and hyper regeneration lol! a telepathic and biotic sex-invader lol!
perhaps asari look exactly how e see them, however when a species looks at an asari, they unconsciously look at the features that most remind them of their species, while ignoring other parts, therefor highlighting the look of your species over other species, which would explain why the turian brought up the asari's, head frills
Logical Contradiction: Asari are not Parasites, as they do not feed of others to survive, they just need others to do so - thus, making them depending on a Symbiote, but not making them parasitic. If they extinct the other species, they would be extincted too, as there is still the problem with the blood purity and the negative sideeffects of the biotic abilitys growing strong and corrupting. Also, in development of their own species, they would mostly stagnete, as they would lack the inspirational input from outside. Thus, Asari need to preserve the wide multicultural variete of life and culture in Space for their own evolution - they are the absolute symbiotic Lifeform and thus seeking contact, exchange and a peaceful pleasant interaction with others. Also, they do not tend to live a life in monogamy with one partner forever - they also tend to have one-night-stands, which provides them with the Genes and other stuff they need without interfereng with the "breeding plan" you seem to have for every species to become "the Master Race".... I think, the last said enough about that "extinction via reproduction" - Asari are no "Krogan Space-Jews", y'know.....
It seems to me that people always think parasite and symbiote are the same. Thanks for clarifying the fact. And precisely as you said, as they are symbiotes they will never conquer the galaxy and destroy other species. If they want one thing, it's always more diversity : we know what most likely happens when Asari interbreed for more than a few generations. That's not pretty. In a sense, they are the exact opposite of the Krogan or Rachni.
***** Yes, "need" was a bad word. But if I understood correctly how Bioware's pseudo-science works, when an Asari has children with an alien (for them), the resulting children will have some DNA from the ohter species, right ? So they do not "need" other species to reproduce, but it gives them more diversity, which for a species is almost always good. But culture must play a heavy role in that. The fact that the pure-blood asari are badly considered instead of being considered as the pinnacle of the species shows that the Asari culture is be very open, thus encouraging interbreeding which, incidentally, is good for the species as a whole.
***** Oh, ok, thanks for the info. But...then I'm wrong about the whole "diversity of the species" thing. Can't they randomize their DNA themselves ? I mean, in a world were you can rebuild someone who was killed, it must be quite easy to do this, right ?
***** So if I trust Bioware, humans are capable of meddling with their children's DNA to the point of creating the perfect daughter (Miranda), but Asari can't ? That's quite an inconsistency. Except if it's frown upon among the Asari to do that kind of DNA engineering.
I've always thought of that scene as an insight into the other species. Salarians look at skin texture, Turians look at head fringes, humans look at facial features. The Asari may have selectively evolved those features on their home planet or started evolving them after meeting other species, in order to increase their potential genetic diversity.
They are female only... cause making more models costs money :) A fact known to Bioware ever since the copy-paste-fest of Dragon Age, where it became reaaly obvious. It's cheaper to create one model and it's texture variants, then two and all permutations. That's why you have Salarians all look the same, that's why nearly all Krogan are male or wearing a mask and the one time they had a female krogan they gave her a burka... That's why you encounter only Turian males, same for Drell and same for Asari. It's cheaper to make one model and have your writers think of some explanation for it, and the budget look's better before investors including their publisher.
Not saying this wasn't true of the first game, but the 3rd game had female Turians. Also, it's perfectly normal to think a different species all look alike when we aren't used to seeing the small differences that make them unique. I'm sure you can't tell the difference between male and female cats for example. That's why I always appreciated that all Salarians of all gender did indeed look alike. I was also happy they didn't try to give the Krogan female a human-like sexy female form in the slightest. Better off with a full body suit than a pair of tits. I never imagined I would want to fuck a female Krogan or Turian anyways, so let's not kid ourselves and try to make them look fuckable.
Senvae Oh, I'm not negating the setting aspect they've written for all the races. And god forbids, I'd rather have Krogan female look well, Krogan. But there wasn't any made, just a same model with few straps of fabric everywhere to mask that fact it's exactly same model :P I'm just saying, it's a bit of overthink when it comes to very simple business practice. We got a single female Turian... after two games, Exactly :) There was just one model of a male Turian for two games copy pasted with slightly different texture. They put time and effort into creation of DLCs, cause that's more justifiable financially before EA, whereas creating a female Turian, animating the model (different animation skeleton, since you can't use the same really) you need separate texture libraries, cause different model needs redesigned textures, so it won't stretch. ;) That's manhours of work, animators, graphic designers and more voicelines to record for random NPCs. If you just make one gender here, one there, etc. It's half the cost! And you can see how cheap Bioware has been, due to their fault or EA? I don't know, I wish to believe it's the latter... but remember Tali's picture from ME3? It was a stock photo from Google Images, just like one of their Ending screens, taken from some artist of Deviant Art. Just saying... I doubt Asari, Turians and others are like that by design, because Bioware wanted them that way, but because EA didn't allow any further expense.
Maybe it's a question of budget and putting resources to better use rather than simply being cheap, which would still support your theory that it was done on purpose to save money. But money saved you didn't have int he first place might be smart. Especially with all the studios closing down recently.
Senvae True, I bet they had to make solid cuts here and there, not arguing it wasn't for serious reason, just saying it's showing. Like very badly tuned musclecar, with some parts made of high grade metals and plastic and others of cardboard and plywood. Sometimes it's better to leave a feature untouched, then to make it... well, half-assed.
While minor mental alteration of their perceived looks is possible, I believe it's doubtful that they truly look entirely different. Especially since, like the Jedi mind trick, it's difficult to alter the mind of a strong willed individual. Such as Commander Shepard, especially after he was rebuilt as much of him was then artificial/cybernetic. Therefore, I propose that the way that Commander Shepard perceives the Asari is what they actually look like.
But a Jedi mind trick is a singular lie upon a surrounding situation that isn't otherwise built to support that lie. Whereas Asari are known by many to 'look beautiful' and 'look like our species', so... Well, consider the amount of power there is behind a thing being so widely accepted and unchallenged that very few people even think to question it. That's a huge head-start right there. I can see that working on powerful minds (besides which, Morinth shows [after her recruitment if not during] that Shepard's mind has its limits).
This channel is awesome. I think it would be awesome to have the player choose what gender they are attracted to and when the play the game the see the Asari as something they would consider attractive to themselves. It helps the immersion and lore in my opinion. Like if a girl is playing and she is attracted to men, her character would see the asari as attractive men
That would impede on the open-endedness the romance system has though, at least in the third game anyway (I don't really remember how implemented homosexuality was in the games, but I'm sure it was in the third one). And regardless, the Asari are supposed to play into the hot human-like alien women trope, for them to appear as men wouldn't make much sense, and if Catkeeper's comment up top holds any water it would be weird for bros to have boobs.
Maybe the seed of the idea of "the Pretty Asari is already planted in the minds of those seeing the satatues, so when they see the statues and assume they are of the Asari, the statues would look however they would look like to whomever is looking....? wat.
im sayin....if someone who hasnt been in contact with an Asari EVER, would see a statue of an asari,, they may be able see their true form, if there is indeed Asari mind-shenanigans (spelled it right, first try!) being played.
Maybe it's not actually mind control or biotics, but pheromones. Their effects can't be explained logically because it happens "inside" your brain. The Asari don't physically change, nor do they change you - your brain is simply hard-wired to find them hot. A human will always see an Asari or a depiction of an Asari as attractive - and perhaps will retro-explain that as "vaguely human-like."
And if the first look a human gets of an asari is via a tv screen? I would say that would be the most possible actually, since you don't have greeting parties in any race going around shaking hands with everyone of another species. Most people on say earth would get their first look of aliens on that tv screen, I can guarantee that. And how do the asari then broadcast their feromones/biotics/magic to everyone, hm? No, don't answer that. Forward it to Bioware.
I think that something like that is mentioned in ME3 actually, I could be wrong, it's been awhile since I played the trilogy and i'm only at the beginning of the third game again now. Ether that or those statues were built by humans.
Dude I remembered watching this like 3 years ago or something, didn't think much of your channel until I coincidentally run to your tibet challenge or something... What a coincidence.
I think, however, that the Asari do not wish to be the sole species in the galaxy. If you'll recall, Liara was horrified at the conquest fueled ideology of the Protheans and would likely endeavor to ensure her species never proceeded down that path. I also think that is another reason they fear the Ardat-Yahkshi, that they reveal this potentiality of the species. I also think they are like the Vulcans from Star Trek where they would rather help and maintain the cultures of various peoples, enjoying the differences of each.
They already ARE the dominant species (but not because they are so super smart or anything - on the contrary, they had access to a prothean beacon and they didn't even use all that information! They didn't ever try to build their own relay for example (we know only one Asari - Liara's "father" - who admits that!). Humans would because of innate curiosity (the Asari with their long lifespans often take a "wait and see" approach, they don't need to charge ahead to make a name for themselves because of their long life either: Matriarchs are revered after all, so you only have to get older and don't make any huge messes that other Asari will remember for centuries!)), but that position is under attack already (humans are dabbling in all sorts of technologies etc. - for example using carriers instead of dreadnoughts because there's the treaty of Farixen that restricts humanity to less dreadnoughts than the Turians (and the Asari and Salarians - at least before and during ME1))... ps: The Asari like being in charge - but they aren't in favor of genocide! We also know that they've been genetically engineered by the Protheans so maybe that's why they are attractive to anybody ;)
Bioware made a species of sexy blue chicks...really, I don't think they intended anyone to read into it to this level of depth. This theory would require a level of coordinated manipulation that would be impossible to maintain, EVERY SINGLE ASARI EVERYWHERE would have to be in on it, no traitors or whistleblowers in an entire species, even the ones that genuinely fall in love prioritize this giant con over their significant other, or are faking love entirely, even Asari who are indoctrinated or husked and thus have no reason to maintain the illusion for some reason do it. Oh, and the whole con could fall apart by something as simple as two members of different species disagreeing on what an individual Asari looks like, and realizing she's screwing with what they see. There's a lot of holes in this. The Asari's relationship with other species is not parasitic, it's symbiotic, they get genetic diversity, we get hot blue space sex. There's no indication that the Asari are doing other species any HARM, that any other species is falling into decline because unsustainable numbers of their members are forsaking normal reproduction to instead mate exclusively with Asari. If anything, they probably provide a healthy check on population growth. It's already out of control NOW, imagine 170 years from now, when average human lifespan is 150 and we have much better medicine and have made great advances towards solving issues like resource scarcities.
It could possibly be a subconscious or instinctual level for example wolves naturally have a pack mentality and insects like wasps and ants also naturally come into a hive mentality they don't have to think about it or teach it it just happens and as mentioned in the video we don't really know how booties or in turn exotic work so yeah there is that as well.
Just putting out my personal input on the issue, but yeah that's generally how conspiracy theories work and besides when you think about it this asari are the only race in mass effect to interact with the proteheans and still be around.
Well technically the video didn't claim them to be necessarily actively and plotting against others on a conscious level, but that with their method of reproduction, demeanor and life expectancy, galactic domination might just be how it will turn out by itself.
This was a good video. Although, you could have used more facts. The Asari would never be able to assimilate all other species, for one thing, as you pointed out yourself, most stay with their partners for a long time (a whole lifetime, if it's another species, as they usually don't live that long). Secondly, they raise their children for 100-200 years. In that time humans would have multiplied like horny rabbits, making many more humans than Asari, so even if every Asari took a human as a partner, the humans would still out breed the Asari.
Taureor the theory only holds weight under a monogamous relationship dynamic, the asari are "adaptable" i.e. the "both" option when you begin to romance the appropriate gendered vermire surviour & liara and the mistress and the wife outside of the elavaitor to the presidium commons. if they were truelly paracites then they'd be the only complex animal species left on thesia.
I think you have a great point of assimilation. What you missed, but reminded me off is the scene with Liara. Where she said she was shunned for being the product of an Asari/Asari union. That does sound like social conquest. Even if the other races realized( I'm using realized loosely) that's what they're plan was it might be too late by then.
It's because of the ardat-yakshi thing. Pureblood Asari have a ~1% chance of having a defect that kills their mating partner and drives them to find more victims, growing more powerful all the while. Thus, the Asari avoid pureblood mating when possible.
vaspeter2600 I think that is a gross exaggeration. Humans have all kinds of risks when they produce offspring, and if shit really hits the fan, you can terminate the pregnany. Asari could develop the same methods, or just let them be and accept the risks.
Maybe they do. Hey, it's not like every parent terminates the pregnancy if the kind seems to have some medical condition. Plus, they are pretty keen to lock up or even execute defected Asari.
One key thing that might be worth considering though is that if the Asari were able to make themselves appear completely different to other species in order to attract them. Surly many would start to notice if what they were seeing was significantly different from what they felt when they were close to (as in really close) to an Asari? Perhaps this could better be explained as their physical appearances and shapes not actually changing but they are able to influence other species to notice the similarities with themselves. Subconsciously looking only for where they look similar while still seeing but ignoring the parts that don't match up.
That's what I thought too, when I heard the bachelor party conversation, but if that were true, there's no way they could be attractive to both salarians and humans at the same time. The two species are just too different. A far more likely possibility is that, if they can make you see features of your own species in them, either by mind control or pheromones or some other method, it's reasonable to assume that this control extends over other senses as well, so maybe they don't have the ridge on their heads the turians are looking for or the big boobs the human males want, but they can make you feel those features as well, not just see them.
Perhaps, although this is still something that people might notice unless the differences were very low key. I suppose as things stand right now its impossible to say for certain either way. It is also very possible that although this was Bioware though this would be an interesting thing to imply subtly, they just didn't bother to take this in to considerations throughout the rest of the game. Which is what's led to there being so many situation where this wouldn't make sense and fans are evolving and changing their explanation for how this works to it can still fit.
The Reapers would definitely notice that. A parasite species that is capable of mind-control on galactic scale, that's not a target anymore for them, it's a THREAT. They focus on the species that are the most dangerous to them at the beginning ; especially Turians; Humans and Batarians which have the the strongest military. If the Asaris were some kind of mind-controlling monsters, Thessia would have taken the brunt of the first assault. And probably the others, until it's a barren rock and all Asaris are ashes. Oh, and they would be able to resist, at least to a certain extent, to Reaper indoctrination. The only aliens that arguably use mind control on a large scale are the Rachni Queens, and they are the only living creatures capable of resisting indoctrination to some extent.
But a race as adaptable as asari can survive if spread around enough. You only need 1 asari and a compatible other. This is assuming asari Cant breed with literally anything. If any species can survive a reaper cleansing Its the Asari. These traits they posses are perfect for surviving any reckoning(save heat death or a Wide enough field of destruction) since it would only require 1 of that species to survive.
Yes but the Reapers are content to spend hundreds of years to complete their harvest...every 50,000 years. And the reason they seemed to save the Asari for last might very well be a fear of them. Or at least respect. Take out all their allies and then hit them when they are alone and spread thin from helping the other species. If they had gone after them first,the Asari would have been at full strength,collected and supported by all the other species.
erniemcdowell Yes, but the Reapers are pragmatic. If the Asari were that powerful, they would go right at them first. After all, the whole galaxy united, when they attacked first the little puny humans, so it does not change a lot of things for them.
Lord Shadoko There was something particularly interesting about humans to the Reapers. They were creating a Human Reaper. What other species did they make a reaper in the form of? They all look the same except the human one.
erniemcdowell That's a good question. It's hinted at in ME2 or ME3 that the human-shaped reaper was some kind of foetus ; in a sense, the "core" of every reaper looks like the species that was harvested to create it, but when it grows, the reaper takes a generic shape, the shape of the very first species to be assimilated. So according to this, it's nothing spectacular, it's just that Shepard saw a Reaper in its first stages of existence, which is really rare. I could be wrong though ; I know this explanation exists, but it could have been retconned, as Bioware was never clear about how Reapers worked (and on a side note, I still wonder why the Leviathan DLC wasn't part of the base game.)
Maybe the asari prime the mind of sentient species into seeing any asari form as attractive this way even seeing a video or an asari statue would still make them look attractive.
The Asari charms won't work on me. I've a natural born instinct to be a jerk ass to anyone I am attracted to. The more I'm attracted to someone, the repulsive they will find me.
Then why straight women and gay men still see them the same way? TBH Bioware writers never had any coherent vision when it comes to a lot of stuff in ME, Asari included, but I'm pretty sure that even if they tried to insinuate anything by that party talk, they backtracked on it long ago, as it just didn't make sense. Or maybe it was always meant to be a joke that fans read too much into. On different note, notice another backtrack, this time when it comes to depiction of Asari sexuality. First it was portrayed as all about some completely 'mystical' connection of minds, meanwhile ME3 implies that just like humans they watch porn ("Vaenia" which was mentioned since ME2, but ME3 by datafiles in Ardat-Yakhsi monastery makes it clear it's supposed to be some Asari-Asari porn), and if they do that, then they feel completely human-like sexual attraction triggered by sexual characteristics which in turn stands in contradiction with them wanting to have anything to do with completely alien species.
Liara explains clearly that to procreate, as in getting pregnant o sireing children, they need not even touch the other mate, but they need their conscent in "melding the two minds", but they have sex and enjoy it just like we humans do. Not every sexual act humans do is with reproduction in mind, same goes to the asari only with the extent that they don't need the physical contact to procreate.
Which makes zero sense evolutionarily. Sexual stimulation wasn't the result of sexual reproduction, rather it acted as an activator and stimulator to increase rates of copulation. When organisms copulated, they experienced a "reward" (in our case an orgasm) and were more likely to repeat the copulation process and thereby increase the chance of insemination and the creation of an offspring. Organisms that experienced more intense rewards were more likely to engage more often in copulation and thereby further increase the chance of a future offspring with a similar mutation. The way you are stating things kinda comes over as the shadow casting the object, rather than the object casting the shadow.
I always did, too. I wanted Tali so bad in ME1-2. Then I found out in ME3 the developers couldn't be bothered to build her form and reused some shutterstock image from the 1990s. Just one of many rotten decisions they made for that total dumpster fire of a series ending.
Well to be fair the Emprah wasn't all murder all the xenos no matter what, he was more kill them all unless they devote their entire existence to serving humanity. So who knows morale is important and maybe the Asari aren't powered by spikey super-sadism incarnate. You would just have to hope Emps recovers from his slight health issues then that he can be arsed to subjugate a random alien species with relatively small interstellar holdings when hes busy unfucking the wonderful mess we've made of his Imperium.
lolroflroflcakes He was going to be with an Eldar female at one point. His goal is the survival and betterment of humanity, aliens in 40k verse can be against that. Xenophobia is only a thing of post chaos, age.
It is logical you think about daemonettes since Bioware made asari to be the "sexy non-humans with mind-subversion powers", and the ardat-yakshi are pretty much a mix of succubi and vampires.
I think the thing with all species perceiving Asari as attractive is a psychological thing. We humans tend to see (human) face even in inanimate objects, our brains are trained to recognise faces of all shapes and sizes, that's just how we are wired. Think about avatar and the na'vi. Please don't tell me I'm the only one, but I considered them attractive, even tho their facial features weren't entirely human, and it was intended that way (watched 8h making of). So I think it makes sense to assume that salarians, turians, etc, who all got faces (and bodies for that matter) similar to human faces (and bodies), find Asari attractive as well. From an objective point of view the resemblance between Asari and humans might be bigger than between Asari and other species but subjectively they might perceive them as similar enough. Perhaps even with a bit of help by pheromones or what ever, I don't think it would have to be brainwashing. Also, consider its a huge galaxy. No one says that EVERY member of mentioned species is attracted to Asari. Maybe some turians just happen to appreciate some softer tissue and facial structure, just as some humans happen to like.. You know? Furry stuff :D
well... its actually a lot simpler then that. Asari are Prokaryotic in nature where humans and most other life, especially multi-cellular life, on earth is Eukaryotic.. this means that while we reproduce through genetic recombination, the Asari (like several species on earth) replicate through genetic conjugation, using another's DNA to fuse with its own, then creating a slightly genetically separate offspring with no secondary parental DNA its actually more interesting to think that Turians or Quarians could mate with an Asari since its revealed they are not DNA based but rather (its not fully explained) seem to be left-handed RNA based.... but then again we're reading a lot in to a video game plot :P
not in as many words... but there is a lot of information, Tali explains why she can eat and drink Turian food but not human and explains that she doesnt get infected by the DNA of other races but instead is allergic to them, and its clear that they are Amino Acid based... so basically another framework for genetic code apart from earth style DNA... if she isnt DNA based then the most likely other scenario is RNA based evolution... you can get better info here, rather then my haphazard laymen version: europepmc.org/abstract/med/1712228 so, where Asari evolved from Prokaryote cells that are DNA based, Turians and Quarians seem to be evolved from RNA that didnt transition to DNA as (if the RNA world hypothesis is correct) happened on earth in the twilight years seperating abiogenysis from evolution (which is a sloppy seperation that may not in fact BE seperate, interesting stuff) so the guys at Bioware obviously studied up on their astrobiological theory, because this represents the most likely extra-terrestrial genetic makeup scenarios
thing is though, its still fantasy, i have to quote Carl Sagan here, paraphrasing: "you'd have an easier time mating with a geranium then an alien because at least we evolved on the same planet."
Turians and Quarians have reverse-chirality aminoacids. That is, while humans (and most life on Earth) have (mostly) L-aminoacids (as in Levo, L-Glycine, L-Proline, etc.), those two races have DEXTRO aminoacids. Asari, krogan, etc. are all Levo based just like us. The aminoacids are what trigger the allergies. Turians and Quarians can have allergic reactions to human body fluids and food because all of them will contain proteins, therefore, L-aminoacids. Bioware always specified that it is the aminoacids that cause the reaction. The Codex mentions nothing about lipids, sugars and DNA. Neither does it mention RNA-based lifeforms. And about the asari. No, they are no Prokaryotic, those are single-cell organisms lol. Asari reproduce through a "form of parthenogensis". No actual DNA from the "father" is passed on. If it did, it would be a form of Horizontal Gene Transfer that happens between eukaryotes and bacteria/viruses.
Honestly I was almost convinced until I remembered a chapter from Mass Effect: Revelations, written from a perspective of a batarian. In the chapter he describes humans to the reader and says that humans and asari look the same.
Not true, else you would not be able to use it in ME:3... masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Dominate Somewhere in there is the part about the Leviathan DLC, in which you unlock the ability to use for yourself - you're not an Asari (or more specifically and Ardat Yakshi Asari), so the only way you can use it is if it's a biotic ability. Before you say it's just a bonus power for gameplay purposes (while technically true) it does fall under the class of "biotic" powers as well: masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Biotics It's in the list at the bottom.
Liara Ashlynn Jennings You just #REKT yourself... "They let non-biotics take a biotic skill as a bonus power" "biotic skill" That's my point, Dominate is a biotic skill xD You were saying it's not...
I remember in the second game there was a side quest in which you could help a Krogan with his Asari love interest. And if the Asari use psychic abilities to look attractive, then not on an individual basis, you said yourself the statues and pictures would not be affected by this. The alternative however would be that they are able to project their illusions on a galactic scale, which is quite a frightening thought.
Already denied. It would not work for statues and vid messages. And pheromones would not alter the visual perception of the target. Only it´s feelings.
Maybe, or we'll get a situation where the rest of the galaxy will rebel against the Asari, if only out of pure spite. Asari have no faults, which is going to make everyone else hate them eventually.
The Reapers just did it the wrong way. Reapers = Assimilation through mass murder Asari = Assimilation through mass copulation Frankly, the Reapers were just lazy. They wanted to just slack off for thousands of years and then get it all done in one genocidal go. The Asari are willing to take the time and effort to gradually eff every other species out of existence.
Kj16V Considering that Asari procreate by touch, a normal condom wouldn't do, just google picture "Frank Drebin" and "Condom" and you will get the joke, despite not knowing the movie classics everyone should have seen...
+Taureor "it is simply another asari"-problem with that Liara is 25% krogan as she stated her self..also problem with the evidence you used. "were not taking alien DNA but using it to randomize some of the genetic information" which means they are using DNA just not in the traditional sense when it comes to breeding...for example bacteria..they dont breed but they do share genetic material with each other and incorporate each others genetic material and than copy that genetic material and split into two other separate bacteria but with relatively the same genetic information.
***** "The Asari still take the abstract traits"...thats literally what i just said..they still are using DNA just not in the traditional sense when it comes to breeding...in other words i am saying they are doing something akin to or similar to bacteria.
***** for example scientist take advantage of the process in which bacteria share DNA and destroy foreign substances such as viruses to create modified animals because bacteria have a special enzyme which literally cuts apart the DNA or isolates it and another enzyme which glues it....this process of bacteria sharing DNA is taken advantage of to create bacteria with human dna..the bacteria are still bacteria but they now produce human insulin. so a asari is still a asari but it takes on some sort of trait or ability from the host species..so physically it is a asari but not a pure asari genetically. in other words its not just another asari but a asari with new genetic information and new traits. i view/think of the asari as basically bacteria.
You forgot that Asari can mate with one another (being women biologically). The act itself is based upon biotic and nervous system, from what I understand, especially when their eyes turn black during orgasm. A lot more is going on than just bumping uglies. The ardat-yakshi (though a genetic condition) are a prime example of what I mean, and how they can kill their partner during mating. They simply do not mate the way Humans do when you get down to the science of it, but they are capable of doing so from an onlookers perspective; intimacy is essential to a couple's comfort and happiness, after all. When they mate with other species, they just add variety to their genome, but this alone is not required for Asari reproduction, it's just the perks of mating with another race.
Francesca Goodrum so basically your refutation is there nothing like bacteria but they are something like bacteria? look at what i said and look at what you said.
+Draconis The Wyvern Well, with bacteria, I assume you're talking about the process of transformation. In transformation, what bacteria do is absorb plasmids, which are rings of DNA. If the "we only use them to modify our DNA" line from the video means what I think it means, Asari reproduction works nothing like bacterial transformation, it works more like this: Asari and Salarian mate, the Asari "reads" the Salarian's DNA via biotics, and the Asari's gametes spontaneously mutate their OWN DNA via biotic/genetic manipulation, without any Salarian DNA being physically exchanged. They use other species' genomes as templates, so since they never physically take a strand of that DNA from another being, Asari will only ever give birth to Asari. Hell, even among themselves, the "father's" side of the family would never pass their genes directly along. Only if a couple takes turns being the "mother" can both actually pass their DNA to the next generation. I think the evidence points toward this rather than direct exchange of genetic information used by terrestrial life. Case in point, Asari can mate with females of any species, where any kind of gamete-gamete interaction is out of the question. In the case of Liara being 25% Krogan, that could be due to the writers slipping up, Liara using it as a turn of phrase, or maybe 25% of her DNA was made on a Krogan template.
The asari were engineered by the protheans, who had data on all the (most of, at least) races, and therefore could make them able to be attractive to the species they expected to reach the required level of development in the next cycle. They are designed to be the ultimate anti-reaper weapon, and a part of this is is the ability to bring the other species in the cycle together against the reapers. Additionally, they are designed (note, designed, not evolved) to be able to take the strengths of other races and enhance their own. Now, the next bit is speculation, but makes sense to me: While the offspring of an asari and another race would be asari, it's my belief that they take useful gene sequences that could benefit their offspring from that race. There is little evidence for this, other than the implications of ardat-yahkshi and a few throwaway lines i don't particularly recall that well.
Hmmm... interesting. The fact that Asarians appear to members of different species as females of that species, reminds me of the Vorlons from Babylon 5, a late 1980's to early 1990's SF series. The Vorlons spent most of their time in 'Encounter Suits' (the Vorlon equivalent of environmental suits, but not because they had a different environment, per se. In a season finale, a Vorlon had to leave his/ its encounter suit to rescue another character- and everyone who witnessed the event saw a shining white winged entity, whose face appeared to be that of the viewer's species... with one notable exception. Later the Vorlon rescuer said it was very tiring to appear before so many different races, implying that, even then, the form it/he took was not the true form. We got to see that a couple of season's later, and it certainly wasn't as attractive as the angelic being who went to the rescue.
Yeah, almost... but when you mate a Ditto with say, a Pikachu, you get a Pikachu. This is how Eevee breeders came about to get around the one Eevee per game rule. You mate an Eevee with a Ditto and get a new Eevee, allowing you to get every single evolution available. :/ (I was one...)
I used to think that was bad, and than I remembered how the Alliance let a group like Cerberus go completely out of control to the point where they were able to muster an entire military force AND effectively hinder everyone's attempts to stop the Reapers. Also, I hated that part about the Asari in ME3 when you brought Jaavik along. It's the most sexist things I've ever encountered in the series.
***** Nah Feminist would be highly racist vs Asari. As a race full of attractive god "female looking" that have an overall superiority in every aspect, looks, culture, tech, etc etc. Would be a direct threat to the feminist cause.
Kalaida piss off, everyone understands what feminism is, E,.g a cancer that only pretends to be equal by is solely focused on advantaging women or more accurately bad women who can't compete fairly within the system.. They would despise the a real Asari like race. As they are superior in every way and Feminist can't control them.
Nathan Johnson They are futanari in that they have a penis like appendage between their legs that aids in delivering the chemical shock that randomizes the DNA of the potential offspring. It's a fact. Might as well get used to it.
This is pretty interesting. One thing to add: I seem to remember hearing multiple Asari talk about how the use of other species' genetic material is kinda like an old wives tale, and that Asari scientists claim the "father" DNA isn't even used for randomness. They do mention there is a taboo with "purebloods" like Liara as it's seen to be taboo to have Asari + Asari pairings. They claim this is based on the fact that it doesn't allow for the genetic randomization of another species. Am I wrong? I'm pretty sure I remember at least two occasions where it was mentioned that Asari scientists say the "fathers" DNA isn't used for anything at all. This doesn't disprove your theory though either as the effect on populations would be the same.
The protheans carefully bioengineering the asari so they would influence the other species. They wanted the galaxy to be more United in fighting the reapers. They asari kept the prothean beacon they had a secret. And gained an advantage.
Aaahahahahahahahah!!!! Was that misspell fest intentional?! :D Fighting against "readers"? What, like a legion of mad librarians waiting in space for someone to mistreat a book? :D And the Asari kept a "protein" beacon?! Had me ROFL so hard on this one X) A bloody protein beacon. :D
I don't think asari are modyfying the way you see them. They are modifying your definition of "atractive". This is the only explanation why all races claim that asari look like them when in fact asari are similar only to human women. In other words asari modify what other species perceive as "atractive" to fit an asari race as well. But they don't change how they are seen. They don't change their appearance. If they did, asari sculptures and photos would give it away.
The best theory I can think of for the Asaris' true appearance is the Banshees. If the Asari use their biotic powers to change their entire body's appearance to appear attractive to other species, then it's plausible that the banshees are what we would see if they weren't doing so.
If they ever make another game, they should have race selection so we can make an Asari character. Or if you prefer, you can make a Turian, Salarian, Krogan, Hanar, Volus, Elcor, Quarrian, Drell, Vorcha or even Geth character.
I'm just imagining myself as an Elcor... "That's a good idea, we should absolutely invade that Geth ship. Sarcastic comment." "I'm going back to my quarters. Exasperated tone."
This also means the Asari have and will evolve much slower, as there are no new elements and chaos introduced into the gene pool. If all you ever get is permutations of the old -- with a certain margin of errors that could lead to the next evolutionary steps, you're barely walking forward and making progress.
If they were genetically modified to be the way they are then they wouldn't need much progress from their current state. So long as their DNA isn't compromised by some external factor they wouldn't necesarily need any upgrading.
Just because old Asari generations aren't phased out as fast as old human generations doesn't mean that new Asari generations are born any slower. I don't think there's a noticeable difference in the time it takes to produce a child for a human or an Asari. The only difference is that an Asari could produce a LOT more asari during her lifespan than a human could produce humans :P
***** You don't understand what I mean. When I opened this very thread, I meant to discuss DNA, not longer lifespans, not how many children are reproduced. XD You'd be kind of hijacking it by changing the subject :). I'll happily talk about age/lifespan/reproduction rates when you start that in a fresh comment. :)
I have a theory about the Ardat-Yakshi: it's not a mutation, but an ancient biological defense against the Asari themselves. I didn't believe they procreate as humans do, instead using their melding of minds as the catalyst to incite child birth. If that is the case, then it's possible... "Forced" procreation was possible before the Asari left their homeworld. The Ardat-Yakshi then wouldn't be an offensive mutation, but instead a defensive reactionary one. But as the Asari ventured into the stars, encountering other species, it became less necessary. A redundant biological defense.
.....nah....those aren't eyebrows. Some Asari don't even have the coloration/pigmentation over their eyes. It gives off the illusion that they are eyebrows, but they are more like Drawn on eyebrows.
I think you need to remember that this is a species that evolved to reproduce with any alien species. Biotics from my understand are more man-made(or I guess alien). Just like how some animals have certain things to attract mates it makes sense a highly evolved species would have something to be appealing to these other species that they can use to reproduce. Like if you think about it the natural goal for the Asari species is to reproduce as much as they can to further develop the race (like any species) but they've gotten to the point where this natural manipulation is their tool to do so. Also Asari are one of the oldest races in the lore so it's not too far fetch to say the other races could eventually adapt a similar way if given enough time. Good video none the less, you got a new sub. I'd still bang Liara tho despite her maybe being a scary tentacle monster because THAT'S WHAT A MAN DOES! :>
dude. Asari SFM por- .. erm... "Anatomical pictures" and GIFs can be found in tumblr. Just google the ff creators: leeterr tumblr callistoinsanity tumblr fugtrup tumblr Marm SFM tumblr lordaardvarksfm tumblr
4:10 Which explains Liara's willingness (and probably a good number of Asari) to be in a polygynous relationship with Shepard in ME1, if they recognize they can't _technically_ give genetic lineage to their mates, then it would be existentially and biologically difficult for their mates and minimize their chances of mating themselves for the randomization.
To say the least, it's unlikely. The Reapers would have brought this sort of thing up. A parasitic species would likely be exactly what the Reapers would hate and definitely something Harbonger would bring up during his assessment of everyone's species. Besides. Look at the Asari. They have elements of what all the species like. They're strong and determined. Krogan like. They have head fringes and they at often in places in power. Salarians like. They have head fringes and train some of the most badass and disciplined soldiers around. Turians like. They gave oddly human features and generally human ideals. Human's like. Saying they're weird monsters that have psychic powers to mask a true form or change themselves based on perceptions is dumb and isn't part of the Mass Effect setting. That shit belongs in Doctor Who or Warhammer. 40K.
Besides, thinking that because everyone finds them attractive, it's because they have some kind of mind-control is quite...dumb. There is a much simpler explanation, it's called culture. Different cultures will see and focus on different things. Humans find their curves attractive, but frankly their crests are quite...strange for us. On the contrary, Turians do not focus on their curves but their eyes and crests. Salarians, who don't care about sex, will be seduced by their culture and intelligence. Krogans are desperate anyway. That's it. There is no need for mind control. It's just that the Asari have, by chance or by design (genetic engineering, maybe on their part), features that make them attractive for a lot of species, that will focus on very specific details.
Little unknown fact, it's been implied that Asari evolution has been modified by the Protheans. Meaning it's possible that their mean of production is also something that's artificially introduced. Further evidence is the Ardat Yakshi. They are born from a couple of Asari parents. However they are relatively unknown to the universe, even among the Asari only as myths and legends. If this is true, then there should be thousands of them living on Asari home planet before the Asari achieved space flight. It is possible the Protheans modified the Asari DNA into capable of mating with other species, among other things and limiting the production of Ardat Yakshi. But hey, it's just a theory.....
Tali is awesome yes I agree. However I used to date a girl that always seemed to be sick and it was always deathbed sort of stuff so take my warning and don't get on that roller coaster.
Nick M-S That was the magic that made the emotion between tali and sheperd really good. In a game a girl cute without showing her face is the winner for me. The problem with your logic that tali in the games isn't in the same as bad situation as the girl you dated. So i would not jump into that relationship that you had in but i would go with the tali one . But of course it is just are games so i m not gonna go to far.
I thought you were going to argue about how morinth was, oh i don't know, feeding off of the life force of the males of all species? that maybe all asari are like that, not just a few as they claim? That the rest just do it slowly over time so as not to be noticed, increasing their own life span in the process? I suppose I have some things to learn about the definition of parasite.
Those Asari have a rare condition that is seen as a disease in Asari culture, they have a monastery devoted to keeping them away from other people. However maybe it is the next step for Asari evolution? Also wouldn't this make Asari immortal? If they could use other races life forces to make there lives longer they would never die of old age, but we know that they do it just takes a long time.
yes the Asari tell us it's a disease but hey people lie, Asari lie, those Asari with the disease could just not know how to control themselves while the rest do,and yes I realize my theory has hole but it was hastily thought up, see my previous comment lol
Seems to be a common motif in Japanese media, Technically Saya from Blood+ is a parasite feeding on humans and breeding with transformed humans only appearing human due to shape shifting abilities, also the chapter "Beautiful World" from Franken Fran strongly suggests the female wood dweller in the story to be a quite horrific non human when seen with different eyes.
