It makes sense though. Absolutely spot on, but this, in a way is exactly how they intend to be. Graham, represents the shoulder that you can cry on. He provides constructive criticism without destroying your soul. Gordon is a perfectionist who is completely insulted by dishes that taste bad, and look bad. Gordon takes it easy on people who check at least one of those boxes. If your plate looks like shit, but it taste good, he will find you useful, and vise versa. Joe, represents the Restaurant manager. He’s the guy who will attack your character on top of your cooking techniques because he’s the one who is going to tell you whether you can run a business or not. Its not about what or how you cook, it’s also who you are as a person. If you’re weak, if you’re an asshole, or if you take things too personally, you won’t make it. You will crumble. Joe is the drill sergeant of MasterChef.
Gordon: your dish is terrible, really bad, next time don't do this thing to it. Joe: your food is terrible, you are terrible, why are you even here you're in insult to the cooking industry *picks up food, throws it into the bin*
In my opinion, he demoralizes no one. He's just an arrogant prick. He doesn't taste the plates and he acts like he does it with his mind, he doesn't let the judges taste the plates because he has thrown so many dishes that Masterchef is now under dept (could be), he insults you - *and not only your food* - like he's your enemy ... I mean hey man, you're not that badass. Calm the fuck down arrogant bitch. He thinks that he just came out of a fucking Netflix series. He's ridiculous and predictable.
apostolis anastasiou yeah but you are only justifying the contestant, because Joe might be rude but he certainly knows better about cooking. And if we keep justifying contestants’ mistakes they’ll never learn. And also, I’m Italian and if you want to watch some MasterChef Italy videos you gon see that the level is totally different, and since in Italy food and cooks are a lil bit better, now back in America Joe certainly isn’t satisfied
@@doctorbrydin7294 joe's kinda right here tho. The guy asked why would he want to taste the same dish as others (it's not what he said but similar interpretation) when it's a replication challenge, but yeah he's really just an asshole too. Gordon often argue with him bcoz even tho the dish is good, joe still hate it 🤣
+Miko Okay. To be fair, Howard was being incredibly arrogant throughout the competition and he even went as far as to do the exact opposite of what they had instructed him to do, missing the point of the challenge. Furthermore, Joe went on record saying that stuffed pasta is something that is very dear to him on a personal record before the challenge started. So it also really offended him personally. Trust me when I say that he can back up anything he says or critiques. He knows his stuff.
+Jacob Voronkov whatever man but... what I mean on my hating on him is. He wants to be like Gordon Ramsay. I know that guy for some months watching some of his whatever videos n stuff. Little by little together with gordon ramsay. Now his rudeness and ridiculous looking face is getting higher.
This is how you know that he is a protective and nice person. He even insults the food to hide the reality behind his actions. It's like flushing drugs down the toilet infront of a junkie.
Webbs Kruiser he said don't be in denial of it, maybe he's accepting of his own narcissism. I mean this is a too 1%-er who isn't exactly known foe his philanthropy telling a rookie chef that HE'S a narcissist.
"The only thing worse than a cook who can't boil, is a narcissist in full of denial." Just from that, I can only imagine what he would've said to "I can't take criticism's" Baking Company.
To be honest I would say to him "With the second part you mean yourself? As even Ramsay Gordon isnt as much of an ass as you are and hes certainly much better cook. Im done. Good bye." and I would leave the show instantly. That Joe thinks too highly of himself and the "Narcissist in full denial (of his own cooking level)" fits him so good that he basically described himself.
Howard is not a narcissist. If he was he wouldn't admit that he is not "confident in his dish". He also agreed with the older lady... If he was a narcissist his dish would have been perfect and the judges would be stupid idiots. On the other hand Joe showed many signs of narcissism. He thought only his opinion matters and devaluated the people who might like Howard's cooking by calling them "6 people at a dinner party" he also had comments about the elderly judge and said she was just being nice which is also a form of devaluation and giving more importance to HIS honest opinion. Also the word spin at the end and the fact he threw the dish away before the other judges had a chance to taste shows he is looking for attention not only amongst the contestants but the other judges as well...
@@hshshshshshshs8831 WRONG. Joe is SPOT ON. Howard was completely narcissistic. Of course they expect one of the same from each. This is to show you have mastered the art and basics of cooking.
Joe's not a chef, so I honestly never understood why his opinion is valid on this show. He didn't even know what a sausage roll was at one point, and that's basically an English street food staple.
@@user-ni7ui1nk8p I mean not necessarily I’m pretty sure regular people like us know when food is bad he not even a chef so he basically like the rest of us food tasting wise
I don't think it is. In my opinion, he basically described himself. The guy just made a question, and Joe insulted him like that guy just bunged Joe's mother.
I mean, I guess it takes one to know one. Like, the guy looked into the face of narcissism and realized it looked exactly like him. Bald, albeit more explosive.
Damn right girl. Only a real man has the balls to go bald. And we know it. We get more pussy then other men because we are masculine. Girls won't leave me because they need that sense of protection and not some pretty boy. I call the shots because I am a man. I won't have it any other way.
@@thenameless2016 Marco Pierre white is my favorite chef of all time no one will ever be better he’s self made and came from nothing I heard his childhood story...
Ramsay is way more terrifying in Hell's Kitchen because in Masterchef, at least there's a lot of people who can cook while in Hell's Kitchen, there's a lot of idiot who likes to ruin food and focus on drama. In Masterchef, the dramas happen in the house or after the challeng while in HK, the dramas always happen in kitchen especially on service. Also, Ramsay is way softer in Masterchef.
@@moonknight5743 you implied that he's italian and he cooks pasta...as if that in itself makes him qualified. The point that the OP is making is that this guy isn't a cook, he's a businessman. You don't seem to comprehend that for some reason.
You know what. This guy is honestly a real fucking prick. Gordon may get angry, and insult you, but he tells it like it is, and is honest with you. This guy just wanted to be a pure asshole. That's all it is. He thinks he's Gordon, when he's not.
I know. Comparing Gordon Ramsay to Joe Bastianich is like comparing a bee to a wasp. Gordon represents the bee, who only gets pissed when attacked or insulted. Joe's the bastard wasp, who waits for a target and suddenly attacks him/her.
So true, this guy sees Ramsay yell and people and thinks it's totally ok for him to do it too, but really it isn't because he's just a dick when he does it
I was watching a compilation the other day, and I realized that Chef Ramsay will taste something, say whatever he honestly thinks about it, then Joe will taste it, say exactly what Ramsay said, and then throw it out. At least have some respect for the kitchen staff. Graham always goes hungry, but that's beside the point. The point is Joe knows only a little about cooking, and kind of bullshits his way through everything else, like same thing in this video she tastes the dish, and then he comes up, and just says that it's worse.
Graham: Tries to tell you your mistakes in a nice way Gordon: Points out mistakes and tells you that you need to get better Joe: V E R B A L L Y. A B U S E S. Y O U
HOLY CRAP that is some next level smooth stone cold ass shit. I thought Gordon Ramsay was capable of crazy in his objective bantering of idiotic contestants, this Bastianich guy is on a whole different level. Not a single crack or change in his voice through his delivery and all objective and right on the brutal points. This guy is cut out to survive and thrive in the most vicious industry on the planet.
A bit ironic, because the winner of that seasons MasterChef(Luca) actually went on to cook for things like dinner parties at people's homes with his "Dinner with Luca."
Joe tries so hard to pretend he knows what good food is. If I was criticized by Gordon it would be an honor at least he doesn’t throw your food in the trash and has answers to make it better
Gordon Ramsay angry: You see devil horns, you feel the heat radiating from him, and fear for your life as he slowly opens his mouth to show the rows of razor fangs. Joe Bastianich angry: You feel as if you’re being lectured by a teachers pet who caught you passing a note in class.
Gordon Ramsay: Intelligent criticism that melts you down and pressures you into becoming a diamond. Joe Bastianich: Personal insults that crush you, demoralize you, and implode you into becoming dust.
Howard just argued cooking with Joe's mother one of the more famous Italian chefs. Of course he'd be upset. I think he was DQ'd for presenting something he didn't cook.
In NYC, I knew a manager that worked at one of Joe’s restaurants, the guy is a complete clown along with everyone that works for Joe and Joe himself is “cheap trash trendy liberals”.
Another thing that some people have seem to forgotten These are amateur cooks that are trying to achieve a title that would have taken them years to get in months Joe is being harsh because people like the contestant there think he's the big shot and deliver half assed dish Joe has every right to be pissed
@@spazerabanekozeroshki Really? I see joe being an asshole literally to every participant, and him being a fucking hypocrite is the biggest irony of them all. He is known as a chef because of his parents, not as if he is thriving. And should I mention the fact that he critiques the personality not the fucking food, literally each one of your arguments fail. Gordon ramsay has been impressed by a chef who is really cocky but makes some good food. Does he complain about it? No.
@@thenameless2016 Okay, there’s a fine line between giving helpful criticism for people to improve and being a toxic pessimist to berate others, which you seem to be the latter. Joe is rude, at least in this clip, and does not tell the contestant how to improve his dish. If you cannot teach without humiliating people for their mistakes, you should not be in any service industry. At least Gordon knows when to be compassionate, and when to speak his mind.
1:14 You can see right there that Joe's brain enters fight or flight mode with that blink and those eyes when the contestant talks back to him when that music starts.
Joe is ten times more terrifying than Gordon. When Gordon gets annoyed he screams at you and increases your stress levels. When Joe gets annoyed he remains completely calm and stares at you with those creepy fucking eyes of his. Joe actually reminds me of one of my old teachers who had a similar stare which just got right under your skin.
now you have no idea how I got these likes. Pee pee poo poo Jk jk original: “so you want me to make 10 of the same dishes for you” It was at this moment that he knew... I am aware that the video said 15 now
The thing is, if they do it the classic way then you can bet your life it will be a case of...... "This is boring and bland where you just played it safe with no invention or passion and so it lacks any personality and any number of others could produce this same dish, so what makes yours so special?" He had already made up his mind even before tasting it, where he clearly had decided that he doesn't like the bloke, when it's meant to be a cooking competition and not a popularity contest.
It's MASTERchef. It's about some of the most talented people in the country, and at a bare minimum you should have a basic idea of how to cook food properly, and how to harmoniously mix flavors.
He decided he doesn't like the bloke after he spent a chunk of the season getting all weepy that his dish sucked. That kind of person pretending to be talented and pretending to be a chef has no place in a serious competition.
majesty327 That's fair enough but it's still a cooking competition regardless and I just happen to think it's very unprofessional to reveal your obvious dislike of anyone when judging.
LilyK. Oh fair enough, I'm in the UK and have not watched this as a whole, so maybe my comment only applies generally and not specifically to this scenario.
lol leave it to the guy that tries to be a dick as much as possible without actually criticizing the dish to call a person a narcissist thats pretty pathetic ngl
I mean it was a duplication test and the guy decided he wasn't going to follow contest rules. That screams narcissist with no respect for the people he's feeding. By all means Joe had the right to be pissed.
this guy is unnecessarily mean, he thinks he's Ramsay, but the difference is that Ramsay is genuine and has good intentions, whereas this guy is just a dick for no reason other than because he thinks he'll look cool
He's totally different from Ramsay lol. This is MASTER CHEF competition. It's a contest to get the BEST CHEF out there. Not a 5 years old crayon drawing contest. He's a strict judge and have the right to go harsh especially when the contestant keep being bullshit.
The food might not be good but replicating another dish would mean there is no creativity in what is made. It's basically like using instructions to make something that you didn't create. Joe is not anywhere close to being a master and he thinks there is nothing to show for his ego. Gordon didn't become famous cooking other people's recipes. He made his own food using his own recipes at his own restaurant. The basics are for the beginning stages of cooking. Creativity is for the real cooks. Joe is a beginner. He doesn't know food nor does he know how to treat a cook that wants to be better. Gordon is harsh for the greater good while Joe is harsh for his own pleasure.
Guy made a point. In Season 3, Graham was like if you think you can make it better, by all means try. Do you really want 15 recreations of something or do you want the contestants to take chances and show the judges what they can do?
It makes sense if you know the original dish so well that you can make it with your eyes closed. But if you're a pretty weak participant (and Howard was regularly among the worst before that) then maybe it would be more logical to make exactly the original dish, whose recipe was shown to you? 15 equally good restaurant-quality dishes it may not have been so interesting from the point of view of producers who want to see trash on the plate of evil judges spat out food and Joe throwing portions into the trash. But from the point of view of the judges as people giving advice and acting as some kind of mentors to these homecook chefs - it would be nice. That everyone performed equally well and everyone listens to the advice they are given.
neonballroom93 MasterChef isn't MasterChef without Joe, but Christina Tosi...is both a qualified...and rather attractive...addition to the current season. I LIKE HER.
Sagittaire Christina surprised me. I expected her to be the typical "nice" judge like so many other reality shows do. But damn, when she gets pissy, look out.
***** Not all of them do, it's seen by customers as a bad thing. When I tip I do it based on the level of service I received, and I'm not giving extra money so the owners who already overcharge can make more money.
The dude is a chef and owns many many successful resteraunts. Hes obviously a douce but if Gordan said these exact words you would be praising him. That guy definetly deserved it. He was an asshole to everyone but then goes all soft to the judges and he got called out for it. After being called out, he got butthurt and insulted Joes critique despite having no leg to stand on.
"The only thing worse than a cook who can't boil, is a narcissist in full of denial." Errrrr Joe mate, you do know you're one of the most deluded people on the show right?
I’m trying to figure out why y’all are mad at Joe when he’s definitely right. Dude was fucking around and that was a waste of a spot for somebody who was actually capable and deserved it.
Put yourself in his place, you're looking for a good cook and there is this narcissist idiot who can't do shit. It could have been someone else at his place, he's wasting everybody's time because he think he's superior.
he did though, he said he deviated completely from what the dish is SUPPOSED to be, the fat lady already did the in detail critiquing. he said the pasta was awful, and the extra shit on the pasta was worthy enough to be in his trash can lmao
